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Fire Ant - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:57:21 EST ID:DXcLfyS6 No.6219270
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What year was NOAH at their absolute peak in terms of match quality and do you think they'll get out of the rut they're in right now?

also fuck their new shitty logo
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Mitch Ryder - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 19:08:18 EST ID:1GVgh/To No.6219277 Ignore Report Reply
2004 probably. Kobashi's GOAT reign was in full swing, he had the great match with Akiyama. I feel 03, 04 and 05 are all right up there, you could make a case for either of them.
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Colin Delaney - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 19:11:24 EST ID:8BNaXMlj No.6219279 Ignore Report Reply
>>6219270
they're getting out of it. it'll take time. but they're moving in the right direction. they booked edion for next month and ryogoku near the end of the year and I don't know if they'll pull it off but they have the roster and they have the stories and now they just need to tie stuff together

so when do y'all think they'll make it to the budokan?
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Darkness Crabtree - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:03:28 EST ID:nVBpeOcB No.6219290 Ignore Report Reply
NOAH began to slowly decline after Misawa beat Marufuji for the GHC Heavyweight Title. Their peak was probably 2004 or the first half of 2005 depending on who you talk to.
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Jack Evans - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:05:28 EST ID:CiDhZ9De No.6219294 Ignore Report Reply
>>6219270
As everyone said 2004. I personally loved up until Misawa died, but peak is 2004.
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Erik Watts - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:21:08 EST ID:S+7IjDaG No.6219401 Ignore Report Reply
2003-2007. 2000-2001 was trying to push Jun Akiyama as the ace, but they struggled because of TV deals if I recall. 2002 was a transition year. The time between Misawa's death to KENTA leaving for the WWE is like the Inokiism era of New Japan, where people seem to forget what happened during that time. NOAH has turned around into being a good Indie right now. Kiyomiya has been drawing better crowds, so things should look good for the future.
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Kazuki Sawada - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 02:04:11 EST ID:5B632HJQ No.6219546 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6219270
They're (very) slowly working back to how they were before that mess Jado booked. Kaito has been a p good champ (for being in his early 20s and this being his first reign ever.) and they've been building up Kenoh, Shiozaki, and Nakajima while Marufuji has kinda taken a backseat lately. Harada is holding down shit with the Juniors too. He just recently lost the belt to Tanaka. I kinda wish it was Harada that went HW instead of Kotoge, but ehhhh.

They're building up Kaito to be this generation's Misawa too.

I'm not too hot about the new logo since so many companies already use red/black/white, but it has been slowly growing on me. The new owners want to finally jump on the network streaming stuff too and have been using youtube to test numbers and stuff. They brought back their pwt store too that the old owners got rid of. I really want to hope this leads to good stuff for them. A lot of the Japanese fans hope that Kenta comes back too.

As far as best NOAH, aim for the early 2000s like 2003-2007.
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C-HIggy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 17:58:10 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.6221830 Report Reply
Coincidentally enough I reconnected with an old friend recently and she's really into NOAH and just got back from a month-long trip and went to a ton of puro shows. She even made a blog about that I can post with her approval. From what I can gather, it seems that the new ownership is doing what it can to modernize the promotion (new logo and ring, streaming shows on Youtube, etc.) and pushing younger stars like Kenoh and Kaito Kiyomiya for instance. I can definitely see it having an AJPW like resurgence.
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2 Tuff Tony - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 18:30:26 EST ID:AITK6mU5 No.6221835 Ignore Report Reply
>>6221830
>Someone makes a blog
>Only lets people read it with permission
I don't get it. What's the point of posting something to the internet if you want to be selective about who reads it? That's what a diary (or notepad) is for...
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Batowl - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 20:34:25 EST ID:q2WbGjAG No.6221887 Ignore Report Reply
Eh not now.
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Ricardo Rodriguez - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 13:46:07 EST ID:S+7IjDaG No.6222124 Ignore Report Reply
>>6221830
Is she by chance, the NOAH Archive?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgY_bErQxSU
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Buddy Rogers - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 16:37:40 EST ID:qaWE+YXN No.6222186 Ignore Report Reply
>>6221835
If it's what I think it is it's not private. She's just selective about where it's shared because... bitches be shopping I guess.

Also if it who I think it is, C-Higgy, can you ask for us where the hell she gets the time for anything else? Because she's updating like 50 times a day and I've never seen that kind of dedication to puro updates, anywhere
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C. Red - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 17:49:49 EST ID:mCo62Zdl No.6222225 Ignore Report Reply
>>6221830
>streaming shows on Youtube
so we can have live NOAH shows in the tube? Or do we already and did I miss it?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 10:11:55 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6222475 Ignore Report Reply
>>6221835
>>6222186
I was just being respectful but this is it - http://flame286.simplesite.com. She wanted to make this blog as a way to help make it easier for wrestling fans to go to Japan. It's a good read. She's a big fan of NOAH and the first foreigner to be inducted in its fanclub.

>>6222124
Nope that's not her I don't think.

>>6222225
Yeah we already did on March 17 and 29. Not sure when their next live show is but we'll try to air it.
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Mark Madden - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 11:22:31 EST ID:TCWZBGyt No.6222491 Ignore Report Reply
>>6219290
Honestly, the decline started when Marufuji won the belt. The attendance for his first defense (against KENTA) was hilariously low.

Noah couldn't figure out how to book new guys when they needed to. Misawa, Akiyama, and Kobashi's power level was about 3 tiers over everyone else, so no one seemed to be credible challengers.

Kobashi's title defenses are a great example:
>Honda
>Chono
>Smith
>Nagata
>Ogawa
>Sano
>Rikio
>Takayama
>Akiyama
>Taue
>Saito
>Mike Awesome
>Suzuki

5 Outsiders. 6 geeks no one would reasonably expect to win. 2 old AJPW main eventers. The Kobashi show was great, but there wasn't anyone that could pick up the slack afterwards.
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Stalker Ichikawa - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 12:48:08 EST ID:S+7IjDaG No.6222508 Ignore Report Reply
>>6222491
It's feels like NOAH's fall was destined from the start. Too many of the midcarders from the exodus were barely relevant or past their prime. The new blood was primarily in the Junior Heavyweight division. Rikio and Morishima were inconsistent. And Misawa/Kobashi were too protected, that it made everyone else look like a Tien to their Vegeta.
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Stevie Richards - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 13:14:36 EST ID:mCo62Zdl No.6222519 Ignore Report Reply
>>6222475
>It's about the fact that everyone can do this!
>1000Euro a week plus the flight(in my case 650 Euro).
Thats like half a year of paychecks just for that, m8...
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Player Uno - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 14:04:37 EST ID:hs5rNBIH No.6222532 Ignore Report Reply
>>6222519
How much money do you make a year?
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Stevie Richards - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 14:30:58 EST ID:mCo62Zdl No.6222535 Ignore Report Reply
>>6222532
Basically nothing.
But the average salary here is about 950 dollars a month, maybe?
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Darkness Crabtree - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 14:32:22 EST ID:nVBpeOcB No.6222538 Ignore Report Reply
>>6222491
> Honestly, the decline started when Marufuji won the belt. The attendance for his first defense (against KENTA) was hilariously low.

That is actually very true, I forgot that was primarily the reason why Marufuji lost it back to Misawa so quick. I remember reading all sorts of theories/explanations on why the new guys couldn't draw back then but who really knows why. It's a shame.
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Ed Ferrara - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 19:25:28 EST ID:n0MsySuJ No.6222654 Ignore Report Reply
>>6219546
>I kinda wish it was Harada that went HW instead of Kotoge, but ehhhh.
HW Harada going against the likes of Kaito, Kenoh, Go, Nakajima, Hino and the like would rule so much which is why it won't happen.
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Darkness Crabtree - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 21:20:54 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6222719 Ignore Report Reply
>>6222538
Booking that cut off their momentum?
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Dale Oliver - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 18:31:56 EST ID:S+7IjDaG No.6223176 Ignore Report Reply
>>6222719
I think it has more to do with how super powerful they booked Kobashi, Misawa. It would be like 2007 John Cena losing clean to 2007 CM Punk. It comes off as unbelievable in the wrong way to fans. Fans were excited for Rikio beating Kobashi in 2005, but his failed to deliver in his first defense against Akitoshi Saito. In my opinion, they should have had Akiyama beat Kobashi in 2004, and than lose to an up-and-comer like Morishima. And proceed to make Morishima the Ace of the Heavyweights, with Marufuji and KENTA the Junior Heavyweight Aces. Sugiura is the better choice of going Heavyweight, not Marufuji or KENTA, unless it was for the Tag Team Titles. Shiozaki was built up well, but got the Title at a bad time.


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