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AEW/Impact/MLW/ROH/ General Thread #8: X-Clusivity Agenda Ignore Report Reply
Dave Meltzer - Tue, 07 May 2019 20:50:37 EST ID:ucAo7DqX No.6229597
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Continuing from last thread >>6188792. General discussion for AEW, Impact, ROH, and MLW since they're bigger than indie promotions, owned by media companies, and/or have national weekly television shows.
>Impact! airs on Fridays at 10pm EDT / 3am BST in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo and /wooo/alt - http://taima.tv/r/woooalt.
>ROH Wrestling airs on Thursdays at 10pm EDT / 3am BST in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Fridays at 3:10pm EDT / 8:10pm BST in /wooo/tube.
>Impact One Night Only, Plus, and Twitch events and ROH On Tour events will be shown when scheduled in /wooo/tube and /wooo/alt. Impact and ROH PPVs will also be shown in /wooo/tube and /wooo/alt when scheduled.
>MLW Fusion airs on Mondays at 7pm EDT / 12am BST in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Tuesdays at 11am EDT / 4am BST in /wooo/tube.

>All Elite Wrestling
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https://www.prowrestlingtees.com/aew

>Impact Wrestling:
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https://www.twitch.tv/impactwrestling
http://globalwrestlingnetwork.com/
http://shopimpact.com/
http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=LOLTNA_History

>Major League Wrestling
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https://www.prowrestlingtees.com/mlw

>Ring of Honor
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http://www.rohwrestling.com/shop

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Akira Tozawa - Tue, 07 May 2019 20:52:32 EST ID:ucAo7DqX No.6229598 Ignore Report Reply
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reposting from the dirthsheet thread
>Sabu’s performance at Impact Wrestling’s TV taping this weekend impressed many backstage, PWInsider reports. There was a spot during the six-man tag match in which the backstage area exploded after he nailed an insane DDT. It’s said that Sabu was very emotional about the event, as it was the biggest match he’s had in some time, being held in the 2300 Arena. At the moment Sabu is not signed to a full-time contract, but the door is said to be open.

>PWInsider also reports that Ed Nordholm, President of Anthem Wrestling, was said to be at all the Impact Wrestling events this past weekend and is set for meetings in New York City this week. Spirits are high towards the prospect of gaining a new TV deal this fall, and the company is said to be thinking in the long-term of where they want to be within the next 2-3 years rather than the short-term.

>PWInsider reports that the Impact Wrestling iPPV and Twitch broadcast events set for June 8th in Philadelphia and June 9th in Long Island are officially still considered House of Hardcore shows. Impact talent will be appearing and Impact has secured broadcasting rights, but they are technically still HOH events.

>Per PWInsider, Matt Striker, known for his work as a commentator in WWE and Lucha Underground, is now working as a producer for Impact Wrestling. He begun work at Friday’s TV taping and was also on-hand for last night’s Code Red iPPV in NYC.

>Per the same report, the reason the event was called Code Red is because originally former X-Division Champion Amazing Red was going to challenge Rich Swann at the event. The plan was for him to win the Ultimate X match at United We Stand in his hometown last month to earn the shot, however he was informed by his doctors that he needed to retire immediately due to a severe neck injury shortly before the event. Johnny Impact ended up winning the shot instead.

>The main event for the show was also changed, as Brian Cage would’ve defended his newly won Impact World Championship against Sami Callihan. But due to his injury at the Rebellion PPV, Tommy Dreamer wrestled Callihan instead. There is currently no timetable for Cage’s return.

>Impact Wrestling management is said to be very high on the modern incarnation of LAX, per PWInsider. They are thought to be one of the most popular acts going currently, and as such they are pushing to sign them to long-term contracts as soon as possible.

>PWInsider also reports that attendance ranges throughout the weekend for Impact’s shows were as follows: 350-400 for the Friday taping, 450-500 for the Saturday taping, and 500-600 for the Code Red iPPV.

> David Sahadi, long time former producer for WWF/E (1992-2003) and the various incarnations of Impact Wrestling (2004-2017) is now working for MLW, according to PWInsider. He begun work in early April.
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Akira Tozawa - Tue, 07 May 2019 20:54:08 EST ID:ucAo7DqX No.6229602 Ignore Report Reply
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>Ross and Marshall Von Erich have signed multi-year deals with MLW. The third-generation wrestlers will make their MLW on June 1st at Fury Road in Milwaukee.

>"Signing with MLW is a big deal for us," 30 year-old Ross told Justin Barrasso of Sports Illustrated. "They are the promotion that has allowed us to be with our dad, help out around the ranch, and still wrestle."

>"We're able to continue the legacy," added Marshall, who is the younger brother. "It's humbling, we're honored, and it's the perfect timing—we've never been this ready for this big a stage before."

>Ross and Marshall are the sons of the legendary Kevin Von Erich. Kevin and the Von Erich family were chronicled on an episode of Viceland's Dark Side of the Ring last week. The episode looked at the tragedy of the Von Erichs. All five of Kevin's brothers died premature deaths, three by suicide.

>"The Von Erich name is not a burden," said Ross, who is the elder brother at 30. "We are grateful for our name, it's a blessing to be a Von Erich. God gave us the right equipment, and we're going to go out there and do our best."
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Pete Rose - Tue, 07 May 2019 20:55:30 EST ID:Ybchf0OF No.6229605 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229598

Now they're saying since Johnny Impact won Ultimate X at United We Stand, he is the ipso facto #1 contender to the World title.
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Akira Tozawa - Tue, 07 May 2019 20:57:40 EST ID:ucAo7DqX No.6229607 Ignore Report Reply
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>As explained by indie refereeing superstar Bryce Remsberg on the latest episode of Being The Elite, May 25’s over-the-top elimination match with now be called the Casino Battle Royal. And AEW is giving the battle royal concept “a fresh coat of paint” by mixing-up the standard and Royal Rumble formats for entry:

>Outside of what Cody Rhodes called a “really great incentive”, we still don’t know what the prize is for the winner. We do have a list of participants, however, such as Sonny Kiss, Kip Sabian, Brandon Cutler, Berretta*, Chuckie T*, Ace Romero, Brian Pillman Jr., Glacier, Sunny Daze, MJF, Joey Janela, and Dustin Thomas.

>There are still plenty of spots open, so a handful of wrestlers will join that match, which is the pre-show bout for this card:

>Hangman Page vs. PAC
>The Young Bucks (c) vs. The Lucha Bros. for the AAA World Tag Team championship
>Kenny Omega vs. Chris Jericho
>Cody Rhodes vs. Dustin Rhodes
>SoCal Uncensored vs. CIMA, T-Hawk and El Lindaman
>Dr. Britt Baker vs. Kylie Rae vs. Nyla Rose
>You ready?

>* Maybe. The Best Friends are trying to extort their way into a tag match on the main card.
...

>All Elite Wrestling's Double or Nothing is listed as a PPV event on 5/25 on AT&T's Uverse with a 7 PM EST start time.

>One would think additional PPV outlets will be confirming the show will be airing live in the days ahead.

>Cody noted last week that fans would know very soon how they could watch the debut event for AEW.
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Akira Tozawa - Tue, 07 May 2019 21:05:06 EST ID:ucAo7DqX No.6229610 Ignore Report Reply
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>A huge main event for WAR OF THE WORLDS international TV taping in Chicago 5/12!
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Rizokahn - Tue, 07 May 2019 21:06:43 EST ID:hTSUcuhc No.6229611 Ignore Report Reply
>WOS Wrestling has secured a landmark deal with US broadcaster Stadium, who will air 10 one-hour episodes weekly from Sunday May 12 at 7pm EST (plus repeats).
This is the first time that a British produced wrestling series has been licensed to an American channel.

>The WOS TV series, featuring the top UK names including Grado, Viper, Justin Sysum, Adam Maxted, Rampage and Will Ospreay, and hosted by Stu Bennett, Alex Shane and SoCal Val, first aired on ITV1 in the UK in summer 2018.

>WOS is the successor to World of Sport wrestling which aired on national UK TV throughout the 1950s to the mid-1980s and created some of the biggest legends in pro wrestling including Big Daddy, Giant Haystacks and Kendo Nagaski.

In case you didn't know, Stadium is partially-owned by Sinclair, who are the parent company of ROH and recently acquired several regional sports networks from Disney.
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Akira Tozawa - Tue, 07 May 2019 21:15:48 EST ID:ucAo7DqX No.6229618 Ignore Report Reply
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GCW firing shots on MLW
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Ashley Cartier - Tue, 07 May 2019 21:20:26 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6229619 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229618
Why does Brett hate mlw so much?
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Matt Sydal - Tue, 07 May 2019 21:21:35 EST ID:dYhrmb6W No.6229620 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229618
I feel bad for MLW. They played it relatively safe the last few years, built up a fanbase, got a TV show on a tiny cable sports network, booking some interesting stuff, and right when they started to pick up some steam, AEW pops up and has basically leapfrogged right over them.
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Akira Tozawa - Tue, 07 May 2019 21:26:36 EST ID:ucAo7DqX No.6229624 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6229618
pissed him and Joey off about something

MLW definitely started utilizing MJF, Teddy Hart, PCO and Marko Stunt after GCW gave them new momentum
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Akira Tozawa - Tue, 07 May 2019 21:28:26 EST ID:ucAo7DqX No.6229626 Ignore Report Reply
>Eli Drake was abruptly fired by Impact Wrestling, and now we know why.

>The outspoken Eli Drake's release from the company has been linked to his refusal to wrestle Tessa Blanchard, a situation in which many figured to be a work. As it turns out, it wasn't, and Impact fired Drake via e-mail as a result -- along with a couple of other reasons.

>According to a source, there was also a situation cited where Impact's writers felt Drake had disparaged them on the Wrestling Perspective Podcast, when he said that they "booked him into oblivion" after not being figured in to many plans. That, added to the Tessa Blanchard situation, and Drake mentioning in a tweet that Killer Kross would destroy Jordynne Grace in a real fight, led to Impact Wrestling severing ties with Drake.

>Originally Moose was actually set to take on Tessa Blanchard, but balked at the offer and the Blanchard vs. Drake match was advertised before the participants were made aware. Drake then supposedly made it clear to Impact that he had no desire competing in the intergender match, which set forth the chain of events. This didn't help Drake, who was said to have had heat with management -- specifically Scott D'Amore -- since the new regime took over.

>We're told that Drake had actually informed the company that he wouldn't be re-signing with them back in January, and his contract status became well known in the weeks that followed. Drake publicly spoke about his deal with Impact coming to a close at the end of May, but we're told that Impact is attempting to lock him down in a one-year non-compete.
https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/exclusives/exclusive-reasons-eli-drake-s-firing-impact-company-tryin
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Rosa Mendes - Tue, 07 May 2019 21:47:09 EST ID:pID3riGu No.6229640 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229626
>but we're told that Impact is attempting to lock him down in a one-year non-compete.
>one year


I don't even like Drake but fuck off with that shit
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Brandon Thomaselli - Tue, 07 May 2019 22:11:54 EST ID:OpgJ2Vxh No.6229648 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229626

Eli Drake did nothing wrong. Impact are dummies.
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CaliJester - Tue, 07 May 2019 22:28:24 EST ID:Mno4Uvlm No.6229657 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229648
He kinda did when he said Impact was treating him wrong when, in a 3-year span, he won the World Title, Tag Titles, and KotM champ on top of being in a lot of top feuds and the focus of a lot of shows. Impact treat Drake like a top star and he stuck his whole head up his own ass.
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Chri - Tue, 07 May 2019 22:29:48 EST ID:y73oDH6a No.6229658 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229648
um. MOOSE?
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Lodi - Tue, 07 May 2019 22:32:15 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6229660 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229626
>Impact is attempting to lock him down in a one-year non-compete.
And yet there are people on this board that defend Impact screwing with Eli Drake instead of forgetting about him and just letting him leave. It's the Broken Hardys debacle all over again, their reputation will take a hit once again.
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Rachel Summerlyn - Tue, 07 May 2019 22:45:15 EST ID:P2NL5Msz No.6229662 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229660
I think they're both wrong here. Eli Drake is a dummy for leaving over such a small thing and intergender wrestling is happening all over the indies and in japan and will be happening in AEW. If you're not ready to deal with that fact of life then you need to go to WWE or somewhere else that's stuck in the past.

That being said. this no compete thing is really stupid and going to garner more heat for them.
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Ashley Cartier - Tue, 07 May 2019 23:06:25 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6229678 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229662
> Eli Drake is a dummy for leaving
He was fired. He didn't leave.

But what I don't get is how you can fire a guy and slap him with an NDA AFTER he was fired. That should be defined in the contract you sign at the start of your job.

This reeks of loldirtsheets, like their source is probably Drake himself, because this doesn't fully add up. The story should be taken with a grain of salt.
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Mean Smark Callous !DCxC2Z8fnY - Tue, 07 May 2019 23:14:24 EST ID:mHVC6D8M No.6229679 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6229662

>Eli Drake is a dummy
>deal with that fact of life
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Go Shiozaki - Wed, 08 May 2019 08:45:50 EST ID:Mi3JpNc9 No.6229799 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229626
>tell them you're leaving five months in advance
>refuse your booking
>complain during press

i can see why he got fired but the non compete is bogus.
he didnt want to be there and sandbagged them, so i can see why they wouldn't just hand deliver him to aew or mlw or nxt or roh
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El Alebrije - Wed, 08 May 2019 09:53:25 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6229815 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229662
>garner more heat for them

Impact really doesn't have any heat with wrestling fans right now. It's universally agreed their product is probably the most consistent and watchable one right now, but I admit, the non-compete doesn't look good. That decision could be coming from a few higher-ups in Anthem that don't fully understand wrestling, much like how a lot of the people involved with Lucha Underground couldn't understand why wrestlers were pissed off they couldn't do iPPVs or appear in ROH/NJPW/TNA for a YEAR.
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Rhett Titus - Wed, 08 May 2019 10:27:21 EST ID:mCo62Zdl No.6229828 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229626
>a literally who company drawing 200
>trying to do a non compete
>for a year

Once LOLTNA, always LOLTNA
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Poison Sawada JULIE - Wed, 08 May 2019 10:46:10 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.6229836 Ignore Report Reply
>Impact is attempting to lock him down in a one-year non-compete
Fuck this company
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Chief Jay Strongbow - Wed, 08 May 2019 11:00:48 EST ID:PwwgP9Qo No.6229839 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229828
Stop telling the truth or the TNA jihadis on this board will put a fatwa out on you.
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Lance Hoyt - Wed, 08 May 2019 11:03:23 EST ID:jEGuiRVR No.6229840 Ignore Report Reply
>guy trashes the company in interviews during the biggest weekend in wrestling
>also refuses to sign a new deal
>furthermore refuses a match with a woman because 'muh suspension of belief' even though he only had a month or so left on his deal

Drake deserved to get fired. He had no intention of signing a new deal, which is 100% fine, but even though his deal was close to expiring, he wouldn't do the decent thing and fulfil his obligations for the remainder of his contract.

The non-compete clause thing is petty for sure, but I can see why IMPACT would be petty when a guy pulls shit like that. I'm sure it'll all blow over and no one will care.
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Matt Jackson - Wed, 08 May 2019 11:25:49 EST ID:E1+Xybxh No.6229847 Ignore Report Reply
>ITV announces AEW “Double Or Nothing” wrestling event for ITV Box Office

>All Elite Wrestling’s highly anticipated PPV show will ignite the screen with Kenny Omega, Chris Jericho, The Young Bucks, Cody, SCU, and more

>ITV, the largest commercial television network in the UK, announced a partnership today with All Elite Wrestling (AEW), the new wrestling promotion headlined by members of The Elite, to broadcast the highly anticipated DOUBLE OR NOTHING event on its ITV Box Office channel.

>Fans across the UK can look forward to seeing all the drama, action and entertainment live from the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas on the night of Saturday 25 May going into Sunday 26 May. DOUBLE OR NOTHING, which sold out in under 30 minutes, features an electrifying card packed with stars including the headline clash between Kenny Omega and Chris Jericho. The wrestling world will rock as Cody takes on his brother Dustin Rhodes, The Young Bucks battle the Lucha Bros for the AAA World Tag Team Championship, Hangman Adam Page clashes with PAC, and Britt Baker, Nyla Rose and Kylie Rae compete in a three-way match.

>Additionally, before the live pay-per-view event begins at 1:00 a.m GMT, Sunday, May 26, the hourlong live pre-show special BUY-IN will air for free on ITV4 at midnight. BUY-IN includes the first ever “Casino (Battle) Royale,” which will see 21 competitors including Jimmy Havoc, Billy Gunn, MJF, Michael Nakzawa, Jungle Boy, Glacier, Sonny Kiss, and Joey Janela entering the ring in waves of five wrestlers every three minutes followed by one final entrant, lucky number 21, all fighting it out in the ring until there is one winner, whose reward will be a future title shot against the first ever AEW World Champion. BUY-IN will also feature a pair of high-flyers squaring off one-on-one as the UK’s own Kip Sabian will face Sammy Guevara.

>“We’re delighted to announce this partnership with AEW, whose entry into professional wrestling is already making a massive impact on the industry and promises to deliver an electrifying event later this month, and a fantastic experience for our viewers and wrestling fans in the UK,” said Niall Sloane, Director of Sport, ITV. “Joining forces with AEW for this event is faithful to ITV’s More Than TV strategy to develop direct relationships with viewers through big events available on its platforms.”

>“We’ve stated since our launch that we want to make this the greatest time ever to be a professional wrestling fan, and part of this plan is to make our product as accessible as possible to a global audience,” said Tony Khan, President/CEO of AEW. “Since our launch in January, we’ve signed the best talent, sold out our debut show in record time, and we’ve built relationships and formed bonds with the best media partners like ITV. This collaboration with ITV is so important to AEW, ITV is the best in the UK, they were always my first choice to be our international PPV partner for DOUBLE OR NOTHING, and we’re looking forward to a great show.”

>In addition, a special pre-event show “Before the Bell” will air for free on ITV4 and ITV Box Office in the build up to the DOUBLE OR NOTHING broadcast. Details about how to access DOUBLE OR NOTHING on ITV Box Office can be found at www.itvboxoffice.com.

Source: https://www.itv.com/presscentre/press-releases/itv-announces-aew-double-or-nothing-wrestling-event-itv-box-office
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Vickie Guerrero - Wed, 08 May 2019 11:32:19 EST ID:DpmzHgn8 No.6229849 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229847
>ITV Box Office
wew
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Killer Kowalski - Wed, 08 May 2019 11:54:53 EST ID:2lWc+6zL No.6229860 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229847
I'm from the UK and I've literally never heard of ITV Box Office and I didn't know there was a 4th ITV channel

But I guess if they say on ITV what's happening on ITV2,3,4 then people might see it and switch over. But I have no idea if they do that or if they ignore the other channels' existence
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Wahoo McDaniel - Wed, 08 May 2019 12:37:37 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6229877 Ignore Report Reply
to be fair I couldn't tell you the name of any ppv channel here in the USA
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Player Dos - Wed, 08 May 2019 12:39:00 EST ID:lwAVO1yS No.6229878 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229860
It's in the AMs anyway so it was never gonna put butts in seats. The real news is probably a weekly ITV1 slot.
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Lodi - Wed, 08 May 2019 12:45:40 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6229880 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229878
I sure hope not. AEW doesn't deserve ITV1...and neither did WOS for that reason.
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Ultimo Dragon - Wed, 08 May 2019 13:30:19 EST ID:ZwqwXMMh No.6229890 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229878
>It's in the AMs anyway so it was never gonna put butts in seats

It's a Saturday night rather than a Sunday or Monday night so there are less issues with people having work in the morning. I wouldn't be surpised if Takeovers got a viewer boost in the UK for the same reason
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Marc Mero - Wed, 08 May 2019 14:52:19 EST ID:VFywvc1W No.6229926 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229860
how on earth do you live here but didn't know ITV 4 existed mate
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D-Ray 3000 - Wed, 08 May 2019 17:53:45 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.6229992 Ignore Report Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Killer Kowalski - Wed, 08 May 2019 17:55:51 EST ID:2lWc+6zL No.6229995 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229926
I don't watch regular TV tbh
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Zelda The Brain - Wed, 08 May 2019 18:23:14 EST ID:DucfTAdh No.6230009 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229992
Manlet problem solved between him, cody, and omega
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Chris Candido - Wed, 08 May 2019 18:24:41 EST ID:RHbsK6aP No.6230011 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229992
Neat. Haven't really seen him at all outside of Lucha.
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Dusty Rhodes - Wed, 08 May 2019 18:35:27 EST ID:ITaUbAPI No.6230016 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230009
Stop saying manlet
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Slick Johnson - Wed, 08 May 2019 18:54:51 EST ID:ieYjLXP8 No.6230024 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230016
Stop being under 6 feet
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Ivan Koloff - Wed, 08 May 2019 20:50:32 EST ID:DucfTAdh No.6230077 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230016
Hit the gym
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Wahoo McDaniel - Wed, 08 May 2019 21:27:51 EST ID:DpmzHgn8 No.6230102 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230016
Gain height
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Shaggy 2 Dope - Wed, 08 May 2019 21:37:55 EST ID:lAzW5Kcv No.6230107 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230016
Get a clue
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Eli Cottonwood - Wed, 08 May 2019 23:05:01 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6230143 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229992
And so they sign another vanilla flippy midget, not realising their lack of talent depth outside of said flippy workers is a major low point of that company.
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Jerrelle Clark - Wed, 08 May 2019 23:09:59 EST ID:EvYXc0Fp No.6230149 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230143
Angelico is over 6'
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Lance Storm - Wed, 08 May 2019 23:28:17 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6230153 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230143
Who would you want them to sign, then?
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Kevin Sullivan - Wed, 08 May 2019 23:34:27 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6230155 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230149
seriously that dude is tall af
he's probably been in a bunch of companies but we only saw his legs in the shot
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Matt Bentley - Thu, 09 May 2019 00:26:40 EST ID:U9mzD+jL No.6230171 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230024
No, you stop being over 6 feet
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Brian Adams - Thu, 09 May 2019 00:39:31 EST ID:4whUyJgM No.6230177 Ignore Report Reply
The proper term for Angelico is "lanklet."

Though I actually do want to see him, unlike most of the names AEW has been bringing in.
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Ken Patera - Thu, 09 May 2019 00:55:51 EST ID:PUt4tJL0 No.6230181 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230177
Isn't he pretty cut?
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Alex Wright - Thu, 09 May 2019 01:02:30 EST ID:P2NL5Msz No.6230182 Ignore Report Reply
>>6229828
>drawing 400 and saying the draw 200.

k
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Orlando Jordan - Thu, 09 May 2019 08:04:58 EST ID:VFywvc1W No.6230246 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230177
he's been dire ever since he moved over to Europe to the point where he's almost a running joke
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Eli Cottonwood - Thu, 09 May 2019 08:06:19 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6230247 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230153
A wide range of talent, not just flippy manlets. Workers of all styles.
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Lance Storm - Thu, 09 May 2019 08:16:54 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6230250 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230247
>A wide range of talent, not just flippy manlets
Like who? Give some names, man
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Umaga - Thu, 09 May 2019 12:15:51 EST ID:6ob5T6fy No.6230333 Ignore Report Reply
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https://www.thewrap.com/aew-turner-tv-deal-all-elite-wrestling-warnermedia-upfront/

>The All Elite Wrestling (AEW)-Turner deal is “virtually done,” a person with knowledge of the plan tells TheWrap exclusively. Current plans call for the partnership to be announced an hour before WarnerMedia’s Wednesday upfront event.

>AEW president Tony Khan and some of his wrestlers are expected to be in attendance at the Madison Square Garden — the mecca of professional wrestling — pitch to advertisers. The presentation begins at 10 a.m. New York City time.

>Turner plans to begin airing a weekly AEW wrestling show this fall on TNT.

>Financial terms of the deal are not expected to be disclosed as AEW is not a publicly traded company. The leader in the space, WWE, is.

>When reached, a spokeswoman for Turner declined to comment on this story. A rep for AEW has not responded to TheWrap’s request for comment.

>Last month, TheWrap reported that All Elite Wrestling and Turner were in advanced talks for a TV deal. At the time, negotiations made it unclear whether or not an agreement would be in place by next week’s upfront, which is when television networks debut their new fall shows for advertisers.

>WarnerMedia has since provided media with tip sheets listing the talent planned for its upfront “blue carpet,” but AEW was not represented on those versions.

>Turner, a WarnerMedia property, is now owned by AT&T. AEW is backed financially by Jacksonville Jaguars owner Shahid Khan, Tony Khan’s father.

>Though AEW has still only had one big show to date, its growing roster is impressive. Founded by wrestlers Cody and tag-team The Young Bucks (Matt and Nick Jackson), the company has signed Chris Jericho, Pac (formerly Neville in WWE) and Kenny Omega to wrestle, among others, as well as WWE legend Jim Ross on commentary.

>AEW’s next big event is May 25’s Double or Nothing in Las Vegas. Currently, that show is set to stream on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook, and will be available as a pay-per-view purchase in the UK via ITV Box Office.

>TNT’s primary competitor, USA Network, currently airs WWE’s “Raw” on Mondays and “SmackDown Live” on Tuesdays. However, “SmackDown” is heading to Fox’s broadcast network this fall, when it will switch to Fridays.
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Berlyn - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:08:40 EST ID:w2Qrws/2 No.6230383 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230250
Big Show, Vader, Misawa, Clone's Clone, Rick Ross
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Hernandez - Thu, 09 May 2019 22:28:49 EST ID:ucAo7DqX No.6230596 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230250
Dan Maff, Ace Romero, Parrow & Odinson, KTB, Shane Mercer, Josh Briggs, Larry D, Black Taurus
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Madison Eagles - Thu, 09 May 2019 23:09:41 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6230607 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230596
Well, Ace Romero is working DoN so he's likely gonna be in AEW.
Taurus would be a good pickup, tho
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Sendai Sachiko - Fri, 10 May 2019 05:06:03 EST ID:HIKIrpua No.6230661 Ignore Report Reply
Based Yack Evans back on TV baby.

https://twitter.com/AngelicoAAA/status/1126509845228580864
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Elektra - Sat, 11 May 2019 21:25:39 EST ID:Pg7lBld+ No.6231380 Ignore Report Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Magnus - Sat, 11 May 2019 21:27:41 EST ID:s2JxQMZc No.6231383 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231380
I give it 3 months.
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CaliJester - Sat, 11 May 2019 21:31:03 EST ID:Mno4Uvlm No.6231387 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231383
Eh, I'll give it half a year. Aries will get the push and it should end around the 5-6 month mark. We'll see how he acts after that.
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Stacy Carter - Sat, 11 May 2019 21:31:09 EST ID:q76WYIAV No.6231388 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231380

He'll get a big main event with Low Ki only to walk out on the match after a stiff kick
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Chyna - Sat, 11 May 2019 21:35:30 EST ID:dYhrmb6W No.6231390 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231388
Not if Low-Ki walks out first.
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The Dog - Sat, 11 May 2019 22:52:44 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.6231411 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231380
not worth the hassle MLW, keep that piece of shit unemployed
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Bobby The Brain Heenan - Sat, 11 May 2019 23:39:28 EST ID:y73oDH6a No.6231422 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231411
A Double getting reaady to collect mid-card belts.
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Crowbar - Sat, 11 May 2019 23:45:23 EST ID:jMLd+XDB No.6231423 Ignore Report Reply
>Austin Aries & Low-Ki in the same locker room;
>in a company where Cornete is involved.
Well it was nice knowing ya MLW.
No way this doesn't end badly.
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CaliJester - Sun, 12 May 2019 00:49:50 EST ID:Mno4Uvlm No.6231433 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231390
Both stiff each other in the first moves of the match then walk away in the opposite directions.
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Averno - Sun, 12 May 2019 03:38:31 EST ID:5uQqz+nX No.6231460 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231380
this actually makes me want to watch MLW now
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Pat Patterson - Sun, 12 May 2019 05:47:03 EST ID:EvYXc0Fp No.6231474 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230661
hell yeah
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Shark Girl - Sun, 12 May 2019 10:43:25 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6231507 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231380
I'd say I'm waiting for the inevitable Cornette confrontation, but if Jim made peace with Greg the Office Boy, Teddy Hart and Colt Cabana, then there's most likely not going to be an issue,.
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Michael McGillicutty - Sun, 12 May 2019 11:04:19 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6231510 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231507
Jim keeps it professional on-screen and has been putting over Teddy Hart on MLW & Colt on NWA.
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Mr. Perfect - Sun, 12 May 2019 11:50:29 EST ID:YhuTqZ9b No.6231521 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230661
does angelico own anything that doesn't have a splx logo on it
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Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Sun, 12 May 2019 14:22:52 EST ID:aYdd1DeT No.6231549 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231423
Can't wait for the dirtsheets to report on that blowout.
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Lady Apache - Sun, 12 May 2019 14:25:49 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6231552 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231549
I wouldn't be shocked if MLW does a worked shoot-ish thing around it like the Lucha Bros contract stuff
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Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Sun, 12 May 2019 14:41:36 EST ID:aYdd1DeT No.6231555 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231552
It could work.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 13 May 2019 00:40:30 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6231790 Report Reply
>>6231555
Though they kinda already did that with Shane Strickland.
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Gorgeous George - Mon, 13 May 2019 11:45:34 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6231887 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231790
Didn't they do the thing with Lucha Bros twice?
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El Dandy - Mon, 13 May 2019 15:55:29 EST ID:lH8uvJTZ No.6232027 Ignore Report Reply
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>Unhappiness over creative and pay has led to a rift between Impact Wrestling and Killer Kross, PWInsider.com has learned.

>We have been told by numerous sources that Kross, 33, has been unhappy with the current multi-year deal he signed with Impact a year ago and has requested a raise in pay, based on what his market value could be outside of Impact Wrestling. We are told that Kross has also raised some concerns about how he is being used from a creative standpoint, but the major issue that has caused the schism between the two sides is financial.

>Sources indicate that Kross, unhappy with his current pay scale, pushed for a six figure guaranteed deal that would bring him far more than he was currently making working for Impact.

>The Impact side of the story is that Kross was offered and agreed to a deal a year ago when he was relatively unknown (on a national level) and that Kross agreed to those terms. Now that Kross has had a year on their TV (raising his profile obviously) and voiced his financial concerns, we are told that Impact countered with an offer for a new, restructured three-year deal but that that money offered was well below the six-figure per year deal Kross was looking for. We are also told that Kross’ current deal pays him by the date, while he was seeking a more guaranteed deal that would pay him a base salary vs. paid by the date booked, since many Impact contracts don’t guarantee a set number of dates per year – and that Kross was pushing for a guaranteed salary.

>After turning down the restructured deal, sources indicate that Kross asked for a release from his Impact contract a week ago, seeking to explore his options elsewhere. Kross has had WWE tryouts in the past and we are told there’s been interest in him there and in other places in recent months, so it wouldn’t be a far fetched notion in the current pro wrestling landscape that he’d likely to secure a spot somewhere.

>Thus far, we are told Kross' request for a release has not been granted and that Impact has no current plans to offer him a release. Kross, who debuted for the company in 2018, is under contract for several more years based on the deal he signed in 2018.

>Relations between the two sides remain professional, we are told.

https://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=126409>>6231887
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Hiroshi Tanahashi - Mon, 13 May 2019 16:11:40 EST ID:P2NL5Msz No.6232044 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232027
Wait, so the company he works for makes him more popular and gives him a platform to gain a following. Then he demands for more money and wants to leave. Killer Kross is based but his personality in real life is cringy as fuck.

I expect him to be getting a bigger role soon though. Him and Moose are two guys that I feel like Impact helped create and they need to keep the momentum going instead of focusing on fucking Johnny Impact.

All these wrestlers need to learn that you can't always be the top guy though. Eddie Edwards, Brian Cage, Moose, Killer Kross, Michael Elgin and Johnny Impact and Sami Callihan are all main event level guys(for impact). They can't all be at the top of the card all the time.

They need to build some hot feuds soon though. Feels like there are a lot of guys just floating around right now and a year ago everyone had something interesting going on.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 13 May 2019 16:12:31 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6232045 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232027
I agree that Killer Kross should be paid more and on a guaranteed salary as should all wrestlers in a major promotion. However, one year on TV is not enough leverage to justify getting a bigger deal. Maybe if Kross was wrestling in more promotions and putting on great matches and getting hugely over with the crowds in other promotions like The Young Bucks did, WALTER did, The Lucha Bros are doing now, and vice versa, then Anthem would be more inclined to offer him a bigger contract. Not to mention that if Anthem had the money that Panda Energy had before they had to cut back, then obviously they could. This is a case of him thinking he's worth more than he is and I'm sure a company like WWE would love to sign him based on his look but just being on television isn't enough.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 13-05-2019 16:14:41
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Dude Love - Mon, 13 May 2019 16:17:08 EST ID:jEGuiRVR No.6232054 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232027
Man I knew this would happen. I said in one of the last IMPACT threads they were wasting him and I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted out sooner or later. Kross should be one of their top guys. Pay da man.
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Shayne Hawke - Mon, 13 May 2019 16:22:00 EST ID:jCH8J3Fu No.6232066 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232027
people are just gonna bag on "LOLTNA" but I don't know what fans expect.

Anthem has a budget for talent. They took a chance on an unknown; he's gotten over and now he wants a pay raise they can't afford. If he's worth it, he shouldn't have a problem getting another promotion to meet his asking price. He can follow in Matt Hardy & EC3's footsteps and take a risk on more pay and an "opportunity" for creative ideas.

>"Everything happens for a reason. I don't say this in a negative way but I don't think people in WWE internally or the fan base would have had any idea how to receive this character if I had went there first with it.
https://www.wrestling-world.com/news/news/impact_wrestling/1282/killer-kross-on-wwes-offer/
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Shayne Hawke - Mon, 13 May 2019 16:23:37 EST ID:jCH8J3Fu No.6232068 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232054
>Kross should be one of their top guys
so which guy do you push down the card (and potentially out of the company): Brian Cage, Moose, Eddie Edwards or Johnny Impact?

>Pay da man
with what money?
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Hiroshi Tanahashi - Mon, 13 May 2019 16:38:38 EST ID:P2NL5Msz No.6232082 Ignore Report Reply
He just needs an actual feud. For some reason he hasn't been doing much lately. I wonder if Sonjay and Abyss did more then we thought?
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Shayne Hawke - Mon, 13 May 2019 16:42:56 EST ID:jCH8J3Fu No.6232085 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232082
he just did a program with Willie Mack right before Rebellion; skipped Rebellion to work AAA, and now he's starting a program with Eddie Edwards.

i don't think Impact did anything wrong with a guy who has been in their promotion for less than a year and paid what they could afford.
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Dude Love - Mon, 13 May 2019 16:52:54 EST ID:jEGuiRVR No.6232091 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232068
Kross is a more interesting character than all those guys. Moose is dope and I like the three other guys but they can all drop down the card when needs be and do X-Division stuff.

Also, I don't think they're as broke as people think. They signed a lot of guys to new deals recently and they made attempts to sign Jericho and Kenny.

I get the dude signed a deal last year and see IMPACT's pov but this guy has got it and they should pay da man.

I just don't want to see one of my favourites go to LOLWWE
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Hiroshi Tanahashi - Mon, 13 May 2019 19:00:51 EST ID:P2NL5Msz No.6232135 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232091
Yeah I am on your side here. I still maintain that Killer Kross has been used pretty well until recently. he will be a main eventer sooner than later though.
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Paul London - Tue, 14 May 2019 13:07:48 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232372 Ignore Report Reply
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not bad
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Paul London - Tue, 14 May 2019 13:09:34 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232373 Ignore Report Reply
pwinsider
>In regard to the Killer Kross situation, numerous sources within Impact Wrestling made it clear that Kross would not be getting a release from his current contract. The company stance is that they attempted to restructure the deal in good faith and that since Kross locked himself into a deal, they expect him to adhere to that contract. The feeling is that the company signed him during a time period where he didn't have any interest from WWE and now that he's used their platform to raise his profile, if there's interest from WWE or elsewhere, that doesn't mean Kross can just walk away from his existing deal. From a legal standpoint, they would be in the right, although it has to be completely frustrating for Kross to see the potential of what he could make elsewhere and not be able to capitalize on that, while making far, far less working for Impact.

>Scarlett Bordeaux's current Impact deal runs through this summer.

>Impact Champion Brian Cage returned to action over the weekend, performing for Warrior Wrestling this past Sunday in Chicago.

>Garrett Kidney, who was very much responsible for the huge uptick in Impact Wrestling's social media over the last year or so, has departed the company. We are told Kidney gave notice about a month ago that he was quitting and finished up over the weekend.
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Nova - Tue, 14 May 2019 13:26:42 EST ID:BPi9EawA No.6232376 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232373
Is Kross stupid? Wait for Vince to die before you jump unless you don't care about your career
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Doink the Clown - Tue, 14 May 2019 13:27:59 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6232377 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232372
Have the new von erichs been wrestling regularly somewhere else?
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Drew McIntyre - Tue, 14 May 2019 13:44:09 EST ID:P2NL5Msz No.6232378 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232376
Honestly, he seems a bit stupid. I follow him on twitter and it's cringey as fuck. Love his character but I feel like Killer Kross might be a bit of a edgelord mark.
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El Valiente - Tue, 14 May 2019 13:44:26 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.6232379 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232027
>Kross’ current deal pays him by the date
>many Impact contracts don’t guarantee a set number of dates per year
>multi-year deal

Impact wrestling fucking over talent hard.
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Paul London - Tue, 14 May 2019 13:49:07 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232384 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232379
Impact's contracts have been per-date since Anthem took over. Its why James Storm, EC3, Lashley all left. The days of guaranteed money left with Dixie.

no one forced Kross to sign it
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Drew McIntyre - Tue, 14 May 2019 14:44:03 EST ID:P2NL5Msz No.6232421 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232384
Yeah not sure what wrestling company besides NJPW, WWE, AEW and maaaybe ROH can afford guaranteed money.
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Paul London - Tue, 14 May 2019 14:49:18 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232422 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232421
Most of the gaijin in NJPW are on a per-date agreement too.

WWE only started doing guarantees after Bischoff introduced them in WCW. It seems like ROH and AEW are the only ones who can compete on that level and they're not bestowing that kinda deal on everyone on their rosters.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 14 May 2019 14:58:49 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6232429 Report Reply
>>6232384
Doesn't Moose still have a six figure multi-year deal with Impact? Unless they renegotiated that.

>>6232422
Yeah AEW and ROH are the only ones that can offer WWE type guaranteed salary contracts instead of per date since both are owned by billionaires. Even then, not everyone in AEW and ROH have those kinds of contracts. Anthem does not have billions like Shahid Khan, SBG and WWE do to be offering those kinds of deals at all.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 14-05-2019 14:59:20
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MsChif - Tue, 14 May 2019 15:02:20 EST ID:s2JxQMZc No.6232431 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232429
Moose is good friends with Scott D'Amore so he probably got him a good contract.
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Paul London - Tue, 14 May 2019 15:17:33 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232434 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232429
Moose and Eddie Edwards re-upped with Impact back in March, even after AEW became a thing. It's unclear what kind of deals they were offered but they were both happy with it.
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Ultimo Dragon - Tue, 14 May 2019 16:02:49 EST ID:g0JhSpRF No.6232459 Ignore Report Reply
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>DALLAS – IMPACT Wrestling today announced ticket details for its biggest event of the summer, Slammiversary XVII, which will be held on Sunday, July 7, at Gilley’s Dallas, and will air live exclusively on pay-per-view.
https://impactwrestling.com/impact-wrestling-announces-ticket-details-for-slammiversary-xvii-on-july-7-in-dallas-texas/

so, is this a good venue? I'm trying to find some pictures and it looks good enough.
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Paul London - Tue, 14 May 2019 18:24:12 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232535 Ignore Report Reply
ruh roh
>Multiple PWTorch sources have indicated that longtime ROH official Paul Turner and Christina Meyers, who worked in the office and in merchandise, have been hired by AEW. Meyers left ROH a couple of weeks ago, but PWTorch wasn’t able to confirm until today that she was headed to AEW to work in a similar capacity as she did in ROH behind the scenes.

>AEW also announced the signings of longtime independent officials Rick Knox, who most notably worked for PWG and Lucha Underground and Bryce Remsburg, who is a longtime CHIKARA official.

>Radican’s Analysis: These are two great hires for AEW from ROH. I had heard back in January from one source that AEW would be taking an office worker and a referee from ROH, but I was unable to confirm exactly who was heading to AEW in either case. It will be interesting to see who ROH hires to fill the void with Turner gone, as Todd Sinclair is the only tenured referee left on the roster. Turner is a great referee and I had always heard good things about Meyers behind the scenes while she was in ROH. Knox, Remsburg, and Lynn are great additions behind the scenes as well.
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Paul Heyman - Tue, 14 May 2019 23:03:07 EST ID:DpmzHgn8 No.6232642 Ignore Report Reply
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Will Earl Hebner finally get his blow j?
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WrestlingTheSport - Tue, 14 May 2019 23:12:09 EST ID:u+Yd2N4u No.6232646 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232642

Oh who cares about him, AEW has AUBREY EDWARDS! GEARL FUCKIN' HEBNER IN AEW!

Seriously she's a super cool person and a great ref in the PNW, I'm glad to see her getting signed.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 14 May 2019 23:15:31 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6232648 Report Reply
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They also signed Aubrey Edwards though I'm not familiar with her as a ref. Any notable feds she's reffed in?

>>6232535
Damn Paul Turner was in ROH since the first show. AEW is really bolstering their referee roster.

>>6232642
I wonder if they'll also bring in Brian Hebner too?
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Kevin Nash - Tue, 14 May 2019 23:28:08 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6232654 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232648
Brian works NWA so probably not.
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Jakob Hammermeier - Tue, 14 May 2019 23:33:02 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6232656 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232642
>Earl "FUCKING" Hebner
uhh, okay.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 15 May 2019 00:22:30 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6232676 Report Reply
>>6232654
Really? Oh well. They could get Slick Johnson then if he still refs.
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:51:47 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232793 Ignore Report Reply
Wrestlezone has learned more details about Killer Kross’ reported request for a release from his contract, as well as some details regarding the pay scale of some of the multi-year contracts offered by the company.

>According to a source speaking with Wrestlezone, everything said in the initial report by PWInsider.com regarding Killer Kross and his contract status, including his attempts to renegotiate and remaining professional, is ‘100% true.’ It was noted by the source that Kross was seeking a salary comparable to some of the higher-level talent currently on the IMPACT roster, some of which are bringing in the six-figure salary he was reportedly requesting for himself.

>Kross does appear on IMPACT as often as some of the talent he’s looking to be paid equal to, but IMPACT’s counter was much lower than expected, which was less than half of what he was seeking. An exact number was not mentioned, but it was said to be ‘less than a NXT entry level deal’, which is normally $45,000 per year.

>Wrestlezone was also told that a number of the multi-year deals—including the one Kross is locked into—currently being offered are low paying, and often see talent losing money due to travel costs associated with their appearances for the company. These deals see talent making anywhere from $250-400 per appearance, with no guaranteed minimum amount of appearances included in the deal. In addition, it was stated that while there are a number of people in the company that have guaranteed downsides and are making good money, only a couple of them are making a livable wage based on their current pay rates.

>Under these deals, talent are flown to the IMPACT TV tapings / live events on basic economy level flights, and are also paying out of pocket for their own luggage, rental cars / Uber transportation and hotels. The situation was described as wrestlers ‘literally losing money’ after compensation and expenses, with several talents saying they were making as little as $3000-5000 for the year (with IMPACT, not including their independent bookings) before taxes and expenses despite being on a majority of the shows.

>Talent are still able to make more money through independent bookings, but it was described as a situation where IMPACT officials are not going to be granting any releases at this time and expect talent to honor the deals.


>Kross was seeking a salary comparable to some of the higher-level talent currently on the IMPACT roster, some of which are bringing in the six-figure salary
>Wrestlezone was also told that a number of the multi-year deals currently being offered are low paying, and often see talent losing money due to travel costs associated with their appearances for the company
>there are a number of people in the company that have guaranteed downsides and are making good money
>only a couple of them are making a livable wage based on their current pay rates.
seems like a real mixed bag, and its odd that Eddie, Moose, Elgin, Rosemary, Madison Rayne, Rich Swann, Sami Callihan, and Fallah would all re-sign if the money was so bad. Even Eli Drake signed even though he was miserable cuz he said he was making 6 figures.

>talent are flown to the IMPACT TV tapings / live events on basic economy level flights
ok and?
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RegalMachine RGM-79 !Ro1w0thJao - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:01:44 EST ID:9+kvF4WR No.6232798 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232642
Some bitches about to get throat fucked.
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Stevie Richards - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:41:23 EST ID:jEGuiRVR No.6232819 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232793
On one hand he's a great talent and one of their best guys on the mic. On the other hand he was a relative unknown when they brought him in and he's not exactly had many high profile matches or feuds to cement himself as a top guy who deserves top money
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Mister Toad !SsYwTDHDIY - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:47:50 EST ID:mDVfyb3Y No.6232823 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232819
He also could take Scarlett away from them.
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:57:04 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232826 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232823
>picking your boyfriend over a paycheck
wrestlers lol

I'm half-joking but Scarlett's real drawing money is going to be solo and not with Kross. They better get used to forging separate careers to make the real bank.
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 13:03:13 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232905 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232793
hmmm
>"I think publicly airing grievances is not necessarily a bad thing, but a lot of times things that wrestlers complain about are based on their own shortcomings," said Impact. "Everyone wants to be champion or the main event of the biggest show of the year. If you don't want that, then it might be time to find a new line of work."

>"But there are also a lot of wrestlers who might be a bit delusional as far as where their talent meets their dreams and it's just something to keep in mind. As far as being upset that you're not the main event of a PPV, hell yeah you should be fired up. You should be wanting that."

>"You can complain about stuff publicly, or you can internalize that stuff and work harder. Working harder is what's gonna get you closer to that dream faster than complaining about it publicly," said Impact.
https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2019/05/johnny-impact-comments-on-recent-rash-of-wrestlers-airing-653918/
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Stevie Richards - Wed, 15 May 2019 13:41:43 EST ID:jEGuiRVR No.6232925 Ignore Report Reply
Seems to me IMPACT rewards loyalty.. see Moose, Sami etc.

Kross worked AAA while IMPACT hosted Rebellion. Now maybe he decided to work there after IMPACT informed him he wasn't needed that night, but it's weird he's gone from involved in the main event scene to doing stuff with Mack and Eddie. The IMPACT locker room strike me as a close group of guys, demanding top guy money a year into working there seems like something that might rub a lot of guys the wrong way.

I mean the guy has the look and tools to go get some good money off WWE and if that's what he wants then good look to him. But if his character and brand are important to him then it seems like the wrong move. Why not spend the remainder of your contract working hard and making a real star of yourself and THEN demanding some nice WWE money.
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 14:01:59 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232939 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232925
tbf, that AAA booking may have been an agreement with Impact given their relationship.

Whoever was complaining to Wrestlezone is going to make the situation worse. It doesn't look great that the person was saying people were going broke on expenses, while also conceding that some impact wrestlers are making six figures.

It reminds me of Mark Henry chewing out Lio Rush last week for not managing his money better then saying he's broke. And complaining about Anthem paying only for "basic economy" flights are going to look bad when Eddie Edwards, Ace Austin & the Rascalz were hustling in Mexico on Thursday night for AAA/Impact's Gladiators tournament, then made it to the ECW Arena for TV on Friday.
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 19:17:43 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6233108 Ignore Report Reply
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penta & fenix are advertised for Slammiversary (and LAX isn't)
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Kevin Nash - Wed, 15 May 2019 19:25:12 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6233112 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233108
Maybe they're being allowed to work Impact until the TV show starts.

Either that or it's their final appearance.
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Jakob Hammermeier - Wed, 15 May 2019 19:31:46 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6233121 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233112
or maybe some AEW guys are going to be working a bunch of different companies along with AEW
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Mitch Ryder - Wed, 15 May 2019 21:07:16 EST ID:w2Qrws/2 No.6233177 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233108
One of the LAX guys got injured
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MEN's Teioh - Thu, 16 May 2019 05:37:51 EST ID:P2NL5Msz No.6233307 Ignore Report Reply
To be honest I kind of respect Impact for telling jabronis to fuck off in the current management. They dont take shit and like someone else said they reward loyalty. Killer Kross is being a baby. Eli Drake was being a baby. Austin Aries was being a baby.

Impact seems to want guys who want to help them grow and not guys who are in it to jerk themselves off and shit talk them in interviews when everything doesn't go exactly how they wanted.
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Mabel - Thu, 16 May 2019 08:28:52 EST ID:Q0bqICPd No.6233359 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233307
Go back to TNAMe
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MEN's Teioh - Thu, 16 May 2019 10:35:17 EST ID:P2NL5Msz No.6233405 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233359
TNA would bend over backwards to keep these little shis like Austin Aries happy. Impact doesn't give a fuck and wants to build the wrestlers who are happy.
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Rikidozan - Thu, 16 May 2019 12:01:40 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.6233425 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233405
It was Impact when Austin Aries was champion and took a dicking. Not TNA.
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MEN's Teioh - Thu, 16 May 2019 14:33:25 EST ID:P2NL5Msz No.6233514 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233425
That's my point...I'm saying Impact doesn't take shit from pig headed dip shits like Austin Aries and Eli Drake. Killer Kross is falling into that same line.
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Masahiro Chono - Thu, 16 May 2019 14:33:40 EST ID:jMLd+XDB No.6233515 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233307
>Siding with promotions/management over the individual wrestler in pay/labour disputes
cringe bootlicker
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Pedro Morales - Thu, 16 May 2019 14:43:47 EST ID:jCH8J3Fu No.6233529 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233515
There's a difference between Kross and Luke Harper.

Kross was an unknown and signed a deal with Impact after a WWE tryout. Either he turned down WWE for "creative" or WWE passed on him. He signed last year with Impact. Impact *wants* to use him. They were willing to renegotiate; he thinks he's already worth 6 figures. That's up to paying fans to decide if he's worth that much money.

It's not like Harper where the boss hates him, doesn't want to use him, benches him, but also won't let him quit because he knows a competitor will use him.
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MEN's Teioh - Thu, 16 May 2019 14:53:38 EST ID:P2NL5Msz No.6233536 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233515
Yeah pretty much. In this case im siding with the company as well as the entire locker room. Im siding with people like Jordyne Grace, Moose, Don Callis, Scott D'Amore, LAX, Eddie Edwards, kid ref, and many many others. Impact has a strong locker room where everyone is looking out for each other and they are actually enjoying themselves. You can often see backstage shit on twitter where everyone is hanging out and having a blast.

Austin Aries is a cunt. Great worker. cunt.
Eli Drake is a great worker as well. Not as big of a cunt as Aries but most definetly a giant baby.
Killer Kross is a great promo and fun worker with a good look but he is demanding money after he signed a deal. he thinks he is worth more then he is and is being a giant baby about it.

This isn't like siding with WWE over a worker. Impact is an entire locker room of people working together to stay afloat and make things work in dire times. When dip shits start going around thinking their hot shit it reeks of the old days of wrestling. That kind of locker room atmosphere is what made TNA so shit back in the day to begin with.
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Rizokahn - Thu, 16 May 2019 14:55:22 EST ID:hTSUcuhc No.6233537 Ignore Report Reply
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ROH has announced a joint show with NJPW, CMLL and NWA. Show will be taking place in Toronto during Summerslam weekend.

>Stars from ROH, NJPW, CMLL and the NWA are joining forces to present Summer Supercard at Toronto’s Mattamy Athletic Centre on Aug. 9.

>Riding a wave of momentum from last month’s historic G1 Supercard, Summer Supercard promises to be a sizzling spectacular that pro wrestling fans will not want to miss.

>Tickets for Summer Supercard go on sale this coming Wednesday, May 22, at 10 a.m. Eastern for HonorClub members and Friday, May 24, at 10 a.m. Eastern for the general public.

>Summer Summercard will feature the greatest wrestlers from the US, Japan and Mexico competing for championships and in dream matches. Don’t miss your opportunity to experience the hottest show of the summer live in Toronto or streaming live for HonorClub!
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Nick Jackson - Fri, 17 May 2019 13:38:07 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6234046 Ignore Report Reply
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doesn't look like the Young Bucks are planning on going back to NJPW anytime soon
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El Mesias - Fri, 17 May 2019 14:21:41 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.6234068 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234046
What ungrateful pricks tbh, NJPW gave them a platform for them to become even bigger stars.
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Spice - Fri, 17 May 2019 14:30:37 EST ID:H+WQJh8D No.6234073 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234068
So what you're saying is they got paid in exposure?
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Mike Bennett - Fri, 17 May 2019 14:30:42 EST ID:EVB2TRgO No.6234074 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234046
lolrng
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Will o' The Wisp - Fri, 17 May 2019 14:43:40 EST ID:1x1xN/No No.6234078 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234068

It was mutual. NJPW gave them a platform. The Young Bucks helped get themselves and NJPW over in America. You’re an idiot if you think The Bucks are ungrateful for asking for more money after helping raise NJPW’s status.

The Elite are the truest workers in the business today. They know their value and they’re not gonna break their necks for peanuts. They’re our here to make money, and they found a mark willing to pay them and give them exposure.
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Turbo - Fri, 17 May 2019 14:52:39 EST ID:DpmzHgn8 No.6234084 Ignore Report Reply
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https://youtu.be/2oAbL8eJSXQ

Oh shit new Wrestling Reloaded
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Rizokahn - Fri, 17 May 2019 14:54:57 EST ID:hTSUcuhc No.6234085 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234046
Didn't they say at one point, they were offered contracts from New Japan worth one million dollars?
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Latin Lover - Fri, 17 May 2019 15:01:34 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6234090 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6234078
>The Young Bucks helped get NJPW over in America
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Bubba Ray Dudley - Fri, 17 May 2019 15:04:26 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6234092 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234090
How is this statement wrong?
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Mickie Knuckles - Fri, 17 May 2019 15:09:47 EST ID:nDYCLFBn No.6234095 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234092
It was mostly Bullet Club in general. It did include the Bucks but the overall group,plus Okada and Omega matches that did if
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Cody Rhodes - Fri, 17 May 2019 15:11:17 EST ID:lPd4cvkd No.6234096 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234095
Okada & Omega turned American smarks onto NJPW. Bullet Club merrch in Hot Topic turned casual American fans onto NJPW.
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Nick Jackson - Fri, 17 May 2019 15:40:52 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6234116 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234078
>The Young Bucks helped get NJPW over in America.
thats a funny way of spelling "AJ Styles, Kenny Omega, Okada vs Tanahashi, Nakamura, NXT fans checking out Finn Balor's previous stuff and the Bullet Club t-shirt."
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Chief Jay Strongbow - Fri, 17 May 2019 16:10:03 EST ID:RHbsK6aP No.6234128 Ignore Report Reply
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AEW's first women's photoshoot.

https://www.allelitewrestling.com/post/the-women-of-aew-poolside-photo-shoot
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Bubba Ray Dudley - Fri, 17 May 2019 16:15:49 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6234130 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234116
Okada, Styles, Tana, Nakamura, Bullet Club in general & Omega definitely deserve credit too.
But it's foolish to act like the Bucks had absolutely nothing to do with NJPW's popularity in the States. I'm not even that big on the Young Bucks as a tag team, but it is what it is.
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Virgil - Fri, 17 May 2019 16:18:11 EST ID:V5UH5668 No.6234133 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234128
Brandi might be annoying as fuck, but good lord is she fine. Cody is a lucky man.
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Nick Jackson - Fri, 17 May 2019 16:31:18 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6234142 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234130
>Okada, Styles, Tana, Nakamura, Bullet Club in general & Omega definitely deserve credit too. But it's foolish to act like the Bucks had absolutely nothing to do with NJPW's popularity in the States.

The YB are at the bottom of that list in terms of importance. If anything, NJPW/Bullet Club helped get the Young Bucks over, not the other way around.
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Nick Jackson - Fri, 17 May 2019 16:32:51 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6234144 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6234128
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Rich Swann - Fri, 17 May 2019 16:36:44 EST ID:8ywp90r1 No.6234147 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234144
>Thinking about all the shootfighters that are gonna touch themselves to this
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Chris Benoit - Fri, 17 May 2019 16:56:54 EST ID:nejd7JIF No.6234153 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234130
It's more AJ Styles had more to do with BC getting over in America. Like the guy said, the bucks are on the bottom of the list.
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GAMI - Fri, 17 May 2019 16:59:35 EST ID:5DjYdGF1 No.6234154 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233536
>Austin Aries is a cunt. Great worker. cunt.


I think this is mostly overblown. apart from the Hemme incident, what evidence is there of him doing anything to be labelled a cunt?
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Ophidan - Fri, 17 May 2019 17:00:53 EST ID:w2Qrws/2 No.6234156 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234154
You repeat something enough people believe it
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GAMI - Fri, 17 May 2019 17:12:53 EST ID:5DjYdGF1 No.6234162 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234156
well yeah, that's what I think this is. I've never actually seen much evidence for it, except "everyone knows". which can easily just be Aries standing up for himself.
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Nick Jackson - Fri, 17 May 2019 19:00:35 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6234217 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234154
Now that he's in MLW, it seems like his BFG send-off was him going into business for himself -- which is shitty.
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Nick Jackson - Fri, 17 May 2019 19:03:50 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6234218 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234217
actually LOL maybe it was work, check this out:
https://www. read it.com/circlejerk/comments/bpw7os/impact_plus_exclusive_go_for_glory_behind_the/
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Sycho Sid - Sat, 18 May 2019 06:58:41 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6234390 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234116
It's like saying Hardcore Holly was responsible for the Attitude era
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Rey Mysterio - Sat, 18 May 2019 10:54:50 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6234444 Ignore Report Reply
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is the sub main event of Double or Nothing really gonna be given away for free on Twitch two weeks later?
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Jasmine St. Claire - Sat, 18 May 2019 11:08:02 EST ID:FlxvzCy1 No.6234451 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234444
Dang, that looks like a good card. Glad to see Taurus in the main.
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Suwama - Sat, 18 May 2019 11:13:45 EST ID:2oYJaLCh No.6234455 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6234144
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Jack Korpela - Sat, 18 May 2019 11:28:17 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.6234468 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234455
you are way too generous
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Charly Malice - Sat, 18 May 2019 12:03:39 EST ID:VFywvc1W No.6234482 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234142
I guess simply being part of the Bullet Club caused fans to see the Bucks in great numbers all year round for ROH, consistently more than they did for AJ styles, while also selling 500k shirts in less than a year in malls across america just because of that name?
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Tony Mamaluke - Sat, 18 May 2019 12:24:20 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6234485 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234128
>no pics showing off Nyla's bulge

Cowards.
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Ernie Ladd - Sat, 18 May 2019 12:46:42 EST ID:Oeu0/t9X No.6234491 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234142
theyre pretty high at the top of the list honestly. Okada, Tana, Nak really didnt blow up until after WK9. before that it was the bucks being everywhere as Bullet Club after they left TNA coming off of killing it with MCMG and going right back into PWG's arguably hottest era. Luke Gallows also being highly visible doing a lot of shoots, just being indie warriors, Talkn Shop and gfw's promotion of WK9 were also huge. then Ibushi/Nakamura and Tana/Okada happened at the dome and off it went
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Pitbull - Sat, 18 May 2019 18:28:05 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6234582 Ignore Report Reply
https://www.f4wonline.com/news/pac-vs-page-double-or-nothing-due-creative-differences-284076

Damn
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Crowbar - Sat, 18 May 2019 18:32:24 EST ID:rJLOf3aM No.6234583 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234582
>pac won't let dragon gate be seen as a low-level promotion by jobbing to page
absolutely based
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Psycho Clown - Sat, 18 May 2019 18:33:47 EST ID:IbFo34Lm No.6234585 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234582
>pac big leaguing AEW

lol
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Harlem Bravado - Sat, 18 May 2019 18:37:53 EST ID:fT370QsI No.6234588 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234582
Why can't they just work a time limit draw?
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Koko B. Ware - Sat, 18 May 2019 18:40:10 EST ID:eAbUDoJp No.6234590 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234582
It's almost like making PAC wrestle a no talent joke like Page was a bad idea.
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Player Uno - Sat, 18 May 2019 18:42:23 EST ID:DpmzHgn8 No.6234591 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234582
Maybe you shouldn't book Neville in a match with a no-dime shitter like Hangman Page.
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Sat, 18 May 2019 18:54:44 EST ID:YILbGvXF No.6234594 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234582
>first show hasn't even happened yet
>talent already disregarding the booking decisions

cmon Cody, grow some grapefruits
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Edge - Sat, 18 May 2019 18:58:52 EST ID:T27T75Qv No.6234596 Ignore Report Reply
https://twitter.com/wtpoduk/status/1129849956620222464

work confirmed
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Aldo Montoya - Sat, 18 May 2019 19:00:54 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.6234597 Ignore Report Reply
It's not like Page is on PAC's level. I side with him on this one
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Hector Garza - Sat, 18 May 2019 19:21:06 EST ID:pL74TnH+ No.6234600 Ignore Report Reply
AEW drones shouldn't want this to be a work. This is TNA/WCW levels of retarded "shoot" style booking, the same booking you and your daddy Meltzer whine about all the time. So now it's OK? Lmao, fucking hypocrite losers.

Also explain to me why PAC should accept losing to Hangman Page of all people. He's the Dragon Gate champion and a much bigger star than Page.

Seems to me that this is The Elite boys already pulling their weight. Just like Hogan. Just like Dusty. Like father like son? WCW 2.0, baby.

You fucking clowns.
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Al Snow - Sat, 18 May 2019 19:22:30 EST ID:WGLCN6rX No.6234601 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234600
Fake shoot booking is the lamest shit ever I agree.
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Crash Holly - Sat, 18 May 2019 19:23:25 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6234602 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234582
>>6234588
Yeah, why wouldn't they just do this? Both guys would still look good, could even have it go double overtime with no one winning still and the crowd would love every second of it. There's probably more to the story that we don't know yet because it doesn't make sense PAC wouldn't want to be on one of the biggest hyped shows of the year for a promotion that's about to be the biggest competition WWE has had in years. I'm guessing there were some issues with PAC getting into the country for the show.
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Psycho Clown - Sat, 18 May 2019 19:24:44 EST ID:IbFo34Lm No.6234603 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234602
>I'm guessing there were some issues with PAC getting into the country for the show

If that is the case, why not come out and say that?

Worked shoot booking is retarded in the long run, its like they havent learned from the mistake that was Russo.
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Sycho Sid - Sat, 18 May 2019 19:28:55 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6234604 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234603
The problem is that AEW's whole schtick is "everyone knows the Elite are the bookers". Unless they can drop that by the time the tv show starts, then the angles are all gonna be dumb like that
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Crash Holly - Sat, 18 May 2019 19:29:03 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6234605 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234603
I 100% agree. I think if PAC genuinely had heat with AEW, he wouldn't have agreed to even do that match with Page in the UK.
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Rene Dupree - Sat, 18 May 2019 19:36:10 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.6234609 Ignore Report Reply
Hangman Page is not even on PACs level
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Psycho Clown - Sat, 18 May 2019 19:36:15 EST ID:IbFo34Lm No.6234610 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6234604
Fucking woeful
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123 Kid - Sat, 18 May 2019 19:38:54 EST ID:3y9pJgTS No.6234611 Ignore Report Reply
Find it more than a little hard to believe that it was more important to AEW that Page go over than to deliver on one of the more hotly anticipated matches on the card.
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Frightmare - Sat, 18 May 2019 19:47:47 EST ID:2S7ektVh No.6234616 Ignore Report Reply
While I have never had any interest in Page, I was incredibly excited to see PAC live; he is literally the only guy I wanted to jeer for. There's something about publicly singing "PAC is a Bastard" with the crowd that sounded so fun.
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El Santo - Sat, 18 May 2019 20:18:16 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6234623 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234588
>>6234602
They're really pushing that wins and losses matter stuff so I guess they're really against draws or dq's on their first show
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Sat, 18 May 2019 20:56:48 EST ID:YILbGvXF No.6234637 Ignore Report Reply
If this is a work, it feels like a bad choice.
for a promotion such as this trying to be a big deal right away; in a kayfabe sense you'd think everyone involved would sure as shit want to be there for the big inaugural event.
to have guys tease that they are somehow above showing up to this, not a good look.

if not a work, weak management. they may not like it, but there is a certain individual that they may have to emulate to a degree simply to make sure things get done the way they intend it to. It's their fucking show, and they are essentially letting other promotions already holding their booking decisions hostage.
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Vincent J. McMahon - Sat, 18 May 2019 21:00:29 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6234639 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234637
yeah either
>lol they're doing worked shoot crap already
or
>lol they can't even get some indie rando to job on their show
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Sat, 18 May 2019 21:08:34 EST ID:YILbGvXF No.6234641 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234639
I wouldn't say hes a rando, he's certainly more of a somebody than most.
but yeah I don't know how they reached agreement with Pac that allowed Pac to do this.

did AEW basically hand out creative control to just about everyone? Is Pac already taking advantage of this and telling them to screw off?
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Jerry Lynn - Sat, 18 May 2019 21:19:43 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6234644 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234641
No one knows yet, but my guess is either:

A) They tried to work something out before the show & couldn't make it happen.

or

B) They seriously thought PAC or Dragon Gate wasn't gonna say no to Page going over while PAC was Dream Gate Champ.

Either way, amazing that none of this was solved ahead of time when they had 5 months.
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Mr. Anderson - Sat, 18 May 2019 22:14:48 EST ID:Pg7lBld+ No.6234653 Ignore Report Reply
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The one true king.
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Vincent J. McMahon - Sun, 19 May 2019 00:40:14 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6234686 Ignore Report Reply
is anybody else solidly a DG guy still on the card?
I wonder if this could be smokescreen for DG out and NJPW in
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Velvet McIntyre - Sun, 19 May 2019 00:46:51 EST ID:VFywvc1W No.6234688 Ignore Report Reply
PACs been pretty Meh outside DG anyway so i hope people stop booking him if this is the hassle he causes, between this, the three way stip seemingly following him around like a bad smell and RevPro literally having to institute time limits to ALL of their shows to justify him not losing it looks incredibly dumb to just do what he wants at this point when the end result isn't even that great
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Mr. Anderson - Sun, 19 May 2019 00:55:51 EST ID:Pg7lBld+ No.6234692 Ignore Report Reply
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>The word making the rounds tonight at the Impact Championship Wrestling event in Queens, NY is that Scarlett Bordeaux officially requested a release from her Impact Wrestling contract late last week.

>In checking with multiple sources this evening, PWInsider.com has confirmed that Bordeaux indeed asked for a release from her deal, which is said to pay her per appearance and is not a guaranteed contract.
https://www.pwinsider.com/article/126545/another-impact-wrestling-star-requests-release.html

>While Jordynne Grace has been a regular with Impact Wrestling since October 2018 and the word at the time was that she had signed a two-year contract with the promotion, Grace actually remains a free agent, PWInsider.com has confirmed with several sources.

>While Impact provided Grace, 23, with a contract last year, the contract was never signed, returned or executed, which means, amazingly, that Grace has been performing for the promotion unsigned over the last seven months. How Impact allowed that to happen remains to be seen. PWInsider.com attempts to contact Impact officials about the situation thus far has been unsuccessful.

>Impact has been communicating with Grace, trying to lock her into a deal but given that she has not officially signed anywhere, Grace would technically be able to field offers from other promotions as well. We are told that as late as the last 24 hours, Impact has been scrambling to get Grace to sign with the promotion and if she chooses not to do so, she will likely not continue on with the company.
https://www.pwinsider.com/article/126546/impact-star-not-under-contract-as-believed-promotion-scrambling-to-sign-her.html
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Kanyon - Sun, 19 May 2019 01:07:12 EST ID:uXbGQaAl No.6234695 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6234692
Double D chess
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Justin King - Sun, 19 May 2019 01:07:53 EST ID:3y9pJgTS No.6234696 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234692
yikes
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Phineas I. Godwinn - Sun, 19 May 2019 01:20:50 EST ID:RHbsK6aP No.6234703 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6234692
Didn't expect Scarlett would be too far behind when Kross wanted out. Guessing she wants to go wherever he goes.
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Gorilla Monsoon - Sun, 19 May 2019 05:45:31 EST ID:x0qVDPqx No.6234745 Ignore Report Reply
https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/impact-wrestling-issues-apology-after-show-went-commercial-break-and-never-returned

LOL TNA
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Johnny Gargano - Sun, 19 May 2019 09:55:53 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6234805 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234692
>which means, amazingly, that Grace has been performing for the promotion unsigned over the last seven months. How Impact allowed that to happen remains to be seen.
PWInsider was editorializing the exact same way last year when it came out the OGs weren't signed. There's nothing wrong with having a few freelancers come in to work a program or two. Its not like they put a title on them. Impact can't compete with the money being thrown around by WWE or AEW. They're somewhere between ROH and MLW and Anthem has smartly tried to focus on building up unknowns that they can make into stars.

As for Kross & Scarlett, its clear there were gonna be issues as soon as they were announced for Starrcast. Can't help but think they should have taken the Gallows & Anderson approach and just commit to not re-signing (supposedly) and ride out the contract then walk. It just seems like the talents that want to bail before their contract is done make it more difficult for themselves.

I wonder if someone has made them an offer under the table already.
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Kazuki Sawada - Sun, 19 May 2019 10:25:30 EST ID:5B632HJQ No.6234812 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234582

>PAC lookin out for his DG boys, and more specifically Ben-K

based
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Haku - Sun, 19 May 2019 12:08:27 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6234835 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234805
Yeah, I noticed that too, So what if they had her work on an appearance basis, seemed like it worked out for the best for both of them
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Johnny Gargano - Sun, 19 May 2019 18:17:35 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6234956 Ignore Report Reply
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looks like Impact closed the deal
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ODB - Sun, 19 May 2019 18:57:12 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6234985 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234956
I really thought AEW needed to lock down either her or Tessa.

The women's roster they have is ok, but they needed that big name free agent.
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Kristal - Sun, 19 May 2019 19:05:05 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.6234993 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234956
>Exposure and money are absolutely worthless if you aren’t happy.
I guess she'll be very happy in Impact because she won't find much of either there
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Jungle Grrrl - Sun, 19 May 2019 19:18:31 EST ID:P2NL5Msz No.6235007 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234805
Yeah it's clearly just being edited or written by people desperately trying to shit on Impact. There are loads of wrestling promotions with talent that does not work under contract. Impact isn't WWE, ROH or AEW and people need to stop treating them like some massive company. They're more like a super indie and its good shit.


>>6234956
And all those loltna comments look stupid as shit now.
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Johnny Gargano - Sun, 19 May 2019 19:18:51 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6235008 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234985
They've still got Tenille Dashwood to grab
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Jungle Grrrl - Sun, 19 May 2019 19:22:34 EST ID:P2NL5Msz No.6235013 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234985
Much prefer watching them work on Impact where they will have fun storylines and feuds instead of just random matches in front of bullet club marks.
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Justin King - Sun, 19 May 2019 19:50:14 EST ID:3y9pJgTS No.6235068 Ignore Report Reply
>>6235007
might have been that Jordynne played it down to the wire between Impact and AEW to get a better offer. Smart move if so
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Johnny - Mon, 20 May 2019 10:16:55 EST ID:jCH8J3Fu No.6235507 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234956
REV UP TAIMAPEDIA
>Jordynne Grace is with Impact Wrestling for at least the next two years.

>The Impact Knockout sensation almost wasn't -- or it seemed that way Saturday night. Reports emerged that Grace had been working without a contract since making her debut last year. As it turns out, that was true, and let to her landing a new long-term deal with the company that puts her with Impact well into 2021. From her stance, it's the place she wanted to be, and she spoke highly of Impact.

"I cannot stress this enough. I love Impact," Grace told Fightful in an exclusive interview. "No company is flawless, of course, and I think anywhere I went, there would have been some sort of problem. No company is truly without issue. Whether it’s not enough exposure, not enough money, not being used properly, not being used enough... I’m sure I would have gripes with ANY company. Impact is a company I truly believe in, and they’re doing their best. I have amazing friends there, and I have a blast backstage. Ed, our president, is really one in a million. He sat with Brian Cage in the hospital when he was injured for hours, which I admired, and he’s always been so friendly to me. Don and Scott are doing a great job, and I always feel relaxed talking to them. I’m hardly ever stressed out. I have so much freedom. All the girls get along very well, and they’re always inviting me out after the shows even though they know that I never party and like to sleep. The cattiness is almost non-existent, and everyone is always helping one another. I could go on all day about why I’m happy at Impact. There’s countless reasons. Impact makes me love my job. I’m sure if there was an issue, they just wouldn’t have offered me anything and had me go on my way."

>Along with the revamped deal, Grace also sees herself improve financially. She was well aware of her lack of official contract, and was hoping to prove to the company that she was worth the terms she was targeting in negotiations.

"I let them know a short time ago," said Grace. "This sort of thing happens more often than you would think, and it’s not specific to Impact at all. I know of multiple instances with other companies and wrestlers it has happened with. Normally, however, the dirt sheets don’t pick up on it, so it’s a little less dramatic. I was hoping to have some good matches and show that I could follow direction and criticism beforehand, of course. I wanted to renegotiate the original deal once I had shown I had value and worth."

>Grace found herself talking to several companies along the way. When explaining the situation, she admitted that she's spoken to ROH, NWA, All Elite Wrestling and WWE about potentially working there.

"I had contact with each of those companies, and had many options and offers in front of me. At the end of the day, Impact is where I wanted to be. I was ready to make a difficult decision if needed, but I was sincerely hoping everything would work out in the end! I can’t be sure if Double or Nothing had anything to do with it, but it’s a possibility," said Grace.

>When speaking about what motivated the situation, Grace told us that she was looking to make pro wrestling more of a full-time job, and cited downtime with her fiancé -- ROH's Jonathan Gresham -- as key factors in looking to re-negotiate. After talking down a four-year deal to two years last fall, the actual contract was never signed. However, she's now with Impact through May of 2021.

"The original term was two years, which has remained the same. The only difference is we were able to hammer out a deal where I’m able to focus more on wrestling and performing, less on struggling financially. My main goal was to be able to limit the amount of time I spent on my “shoot job”. I work as a legal transcriptionist, and it was becoming very difficult to juggle with my wrestling schedule. I’m now able to just work part-time. I’ll never fully quit, as I love what I do, but now I’m able to spend more time training and giving attention to my fiancé, who also works an incredibly busy schedule. Any instance we’re home at the same time really needs to be spent with each other at this point," she closed.

>With a cast of Knockouts including Taya, Tessa Blanchard, Kiera Hogan and Rosemary, the company has locked up one of the key members of the division.
https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/exclusives/exclusive-jordynne-grace-reveals-details-new-impact-wrestling-contract
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Jimmy Uso - Mon, 20 May 2019 12:06:45 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6235529 Ignore Report Reply
>>6235013
>fun storylines
The wacky shit with Su Yung and Rosemary is over the hill now. It's just there to fill time at this point. There hasn't been much of interest with the Knockouts division since Taya won the title.

>in front of bullet club marks
As if that's the only fanbase that'd be watching. And we don't even know how the division will be booked at AEW, fuck off.
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Big Boss Man - Mon, 20 May 2019 12:15:51 EST ID:P2NL5Msz No.6235531 Ignore Report Reply
>>6235507
This is what I figured from the stuff I've seen of Impact backstage on twitter and youtube. Everyone seems to be actually happy and enjoy working there. It's a positive work environment and it's no surprise people like Eli Drake and Austin Aries eventually left.


>>6235529
The knockouts division is one of the best womans divisions going right now. Tessa, Taya, Grace are all putting on great performances. Tessa Vs Gail Kim was a great feud/match. To each their own I guess. AEW just doesn't excite me right now and Impact does? Maybe once AEW gets off the ground it will be good.
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Big Boss Man - Mon, 20 May 2019 12:19:53 EST ID:P2NL5Msz No.6235532 Ignore Report Reply
>>6235531
Which reminds me. Is AEW going to get it's own general once they get going?
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Kimberly Page - Mon, 20 May 2019 13:02:03 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6235544 Ignore Report Reply
>>6235532
It doesn't need its own? It still fits the criteria:
> General discussion for AEW, Impact, ROH, and MLW since they're bigger than indie promotions, owned by media companies, and/or have national weekly television shows.
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Ricochet - Mon, 20 May 2019 13:43:03 EST ID:g0JhSpRF No.6235556 Ignore Report Reply
source: Impact Wrestling Twitter
>Front Rows Seats to #Slamm17 are SOLD OUT! THANK YOU to everyone who has already purchased your tickets! Join us in Dallas on July 7th for Slammiversary!
MOOSE
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Johnny - Mon, 20 May 2019 16:21:33 EST ID:jCH8J3Fu No.6235648 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234692
>Impact sources, in responding to the Scarlett Bordeaux situation, claimed that she is in the midst of a multi-year deal and that her contract does not expire this summer. There's no word as to whether she will receive the release Scarlett requested last week.

>Impact Wrestling saw signing Jordynne Grace yesterday as a victory. The two sides officially came to terms yesterday for a multi-year deal. There was interest from both WWE and AEW, so Impact was really pleased that Grace, despite having strong interest elsewhere, made the decision to finally lock herself into a deal wtih them. There wasn't a clear answer as far as why Grace never signed the initial deal that she was supposed to sign last October. We are told that Grace provided Impact with data, including social media engagement, to showcase why she was worth more than the initial deal that was offered. One would think that in the end, she landed a better financial deal than she was probably originally offered. Her new contract will run through May 2021.
https://www.pwinsider.com/article/126573/impact-wrestling-news-and-notes.html?p=1
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Chessman - Mon, 20 May 2019 16:43:48 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6235667 Ignore Report Reply
>>6235648
Happy for Jordynne but if the offers were similar, I can't imagine why you'd go with Impact over AEW right now. Maybe she knows something we don't.
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Ashley Cartier - Mon, 20 May 2019 16:47:49 EST ID:LUMg+nxK No.6235672 Ignore Report Reply
>>6235648
>Social Media engagement is used as a bargaining chip

what is this even
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Seth Rollins - Mon, 20 May 2019 16:49:34 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6235674 Ignore Report Reply
>>6235667
She'd almost certainly be a bigger fish in a smaller pond on impact.
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Johnny - Mon, 20 May 2019 16:57:19 EST ID:jCH8J3Fu No.6235683 Ignore Report Reply
>>6235667
what exactly does AEW have to offer if you're not a member of the Elite with a second "executive" title?
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Chessman - Mon, 20 May 2019 17:14:32 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6235695 Ignore Report Reply
>>6235672
Social media "engagement" is the greatest work of our era.

>>6235683
A billionaire's money and exposure on a major cable network.
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Sakura Emi - Mon, 20 May 2019 19:22:21 EST ID:gh69CKgg No.6235783 Ignore Report Reply
>>6235674
>a bigger fish
thiccer fish
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Greg Gagne - Tue, 21 May 2019 03:55:08 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6236141 Ignore Report Reply
>>6235683
you get to work for a company that provides healthcare for the wrestlers that were in bullet club
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Zach Gowen - Tue, 21 May 2019 06:43:18 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.6236163 Ignore Report Reply
You know things are bad when they are bragging that the front row seats were all sold
https://impactwrestling.com/slammiversary-front-row-sold-out/
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Tue, 21 May 2019 06:43:20 EST ID: iLikEToleARn No.6236164 Report Reply
>>6236163
Fritz drove all of the ring and ran and won the belt in the building, which again, sunny's in the NXT talent only to indians for proportional online presence for a temporal incursion into your psyche by constantly bragging about it during his revenge.
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Abdullah the Butcher - Tue, 21 May 2019 08:32:59 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6236171 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236163
>front row sold out
>this is bad
uh... no?
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Earthquake - Tue, 21 May 2019 09:29:46 EST ID:QQ9DR+L4 No.6236177 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236163
>selling out tickets is somehow bad
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Greg Gagne - Tue, 21 May 2019 09:32:23 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6236178 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236177
it's amazing how much of the "loltna" stuff is just people editorialising normal wrestling business. The Taimapedia LOLTNA page is full of it. Signing The Wolves is seen as LOLTNA for some reason there.
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Player Uno - Tue, 21 May 2019 10:16:26 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6236189 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236178
Said page hasn't been updated in forever because Taimapedia is still down.
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Io Shirai - Tue, 21 May 2019 10:16:45 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6236190 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236178
*was
The page is long dead and taimapedia never came back to life.
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Player Uno - Tue, 21 May 2019 10:25:00 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6236192 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236190
Need to ask Kirt to see what the hold up on it is. LOLTNA History was the highlight of Taimapedia. And it won't be long before LOLAEW is needed, in fact it already is.
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Io Shirai - Tue, 21 May 2019 10:33:44 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6236197 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236192
>LOLAEW
Man, imagine being this desperate to see another company fall.
The inherent problem with that and the later years of the LOLTNA history page are similar. You get people editing the page that are so obsessive in their hate for a promotion that inane shit gets put on the page.
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Jay Briscoe - Tue, 21 May 2019 10:42:46 EST ID:N0gMSQCl No.6236199 Report Reply
>>6236192
>And it won't be long before LOLAEW is needed, in fact it already is.

They literally haven't run a single episode of their TV show and you're already committed to creating an entire page to shitting on them. Take a step back and realise you're being hypercritical.
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Lizmark Jr. - Tue, 21 May 2019 12:37:17 EST ID:P2NL5Msz No.6236237 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236163
lol...what
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Suwama - Tue, 21 May 2019 13:31:56 EST ID:jEGuiRVR No.6236258 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236192
You are so shook. What's the matter? The only LOLPROMOTION that's relevant then, now and forever is LOLWWE
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Greg Gagne - Tue, 21 May 2019 15:33:37 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6236295 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236199
Ok, guys, LOLAEW in the style of LOLTNA:


:Even before the bell rung on the first show had started, there were some major embarrassments. First, "executive vice president" Brandi Rhodes (who got the job on her own merits, thanks to her amazing game changing run in Stardom) announced to cheers and hollering that AEW would be changing the patriarchal wrestling system by paying men the same as women. Great right? only when further questioned, it turned out this would be relative to their place on the card, something which pretty much every wrestling company has been doing already. Wrestling fans all over the world sighed and began tearing down the posters hoping that this fucking shithole company would close down.

Amazingly, that wasn't the worst thing: after many months of signalling that AEW would be "taking care of the boys", suddenly the "Executive Vice Presidents" were oddly silent on the issue of health insurance for employees. Turns out that far from a revolution, it would be business as usual. There were some wrestlers who qualified for health insurance in the new world order of All Elite Wrestling...who? Yep, Omega, Cody and the Bucks. Many fans started wailing in high pitched intermittent shrieks.

Next came the much vaunted Tv deal. According to Kenny Omega fan David Meltzer, this would be the biggest deal since WCW. So you can imagine the groan when it was revealed that AEW wouldn't even be getting rights fees! LOLAEW strikes again!

The Pac/Page Debacle. You could write a book on this absolute shitshow. AEW had announced PAC vs Hangman Page for their inaugural "Double or Nothing" show for months. Then a mere week before Page showed up at an WrestleGate show in the UK for an impromptu match with Pac. The match ends in a DQ and Pac then declares the match at DoN off. Before the houselights had even come on Young Bucks superfan Dave Meltzer had leapt onto twitter to spin the story up, down and inside out, just so long as noone was placing the blame on the sheer incompetence of AEW bookers for booking a match in advance and not being able to go through with it because "we want clean finishes".

Astoundingly, in his frothy-mouthed rush to defend the AEW team, Meltzer managed to spoil the upcoming Jericho/Omega headliner by saying that the reason the match was pulled was because Pac would have won and wins mean something in AEW so he would have gone on to face Omega, but as DG champ wouldn't have been able to lose. This made zero sense, as at no point had the Page/PAC match been advertised as a "winner faces Omega" match.

At this point, most wrestling fans had given up on AEW. They'd already been burned too many times and PPV sales were slumping to record lows.But the worst was yet to come....
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Lenny Lane - Tue, 21 May 2019 16:06:33 EST ID:nBQxUchQ No.6236312 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236295
>this bitter ass TNA jihadi trying so hard to make this happen
you people are so petty and gotten to
lol
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Greg Gagne - Tue, 21 May 2019 16:35:28 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6236329 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236312
>you people are so petty and gotten to

When you react to a joke post in this way you are the one who sounds gotten to.

Are you going to be like this for the next year or so? getting far too upset whenever someone criticises AEW? Just drop it now. Trust me, you don't want to AEW fans to become the new Becky Lynch fans,
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Tiffany Mellon - Tue, 21 May 2019 16:39:11 EST ID:z2hwvJv8 No.6236330 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6236295
This level of delusion is insane
is that you Vince
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Zach Gowen - Tue, 21 May 2019 16:42:15 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.6236332 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236329
>a joke post
you are the joke
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Tiffany Mellon - Tue, 21 May 2019 16:43:09 EST ID:z2hwvJv8 No.6236334 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236329
>i was only pretending!
lol who are you trying to fool dawg
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Tue, 21 May 2019 16:46:32 EST ID:It2BUKqt No.6236335 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236329
It’s one thing to criticize AEW. It’s a whole other ballgame to act as if AEW deserves to be treated like TNA/Impact when AEW has none of the same history of fucking up literally everything from the get-go. There is also the fact that you loaded the whole thing with ridiculous strawmen ("patriarchal wrestling system") which not even the LOLTNA article did — and I should know, since I helped edit the damn thing for a while. To show you how it’s done, here’s a rewrite of that entire first paragraph that is more accurate to the LOLTNA article’s tone and style (and has some necessary grammar fixes):

>Even before the bell rung on the first show, there were some major embarrassments. “Executive Vice President" Brandi Rhodes (who got the job on the merits, rather than because of her marriage to Cody “Don’t Call Me” Rhodes) announced that AEW would be changing the wrestling system by paying men the same as women. But when questioned on the matter, she revealed that the pay scale would be relative to their place on the card — something which pretty much every wrestling company, including WWE, has already been doing.

You stick to the facts of the matter and add in a little humor to make it readable. Doing shit like adding in strawman arguments like the ones I got rid of in your paragraph makes your “entries” look ridiculous.
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Greg Gagne - Tue, 21 May 2019 16:56:36 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6236342 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236335
>There is also the fact that you loaded the whole thing with ridiculous strawmen

It was purposefully over the top and not in any way intended to be serious. It was a mockery of the LOL TNA page. The same page which tried to say that TNA signing the Wolves was "peak LOLTNA for some reason.

Why is wooo so fucking uptight these days?
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Greg Gagne - Tue, 21 May 2019 16:57:49 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6236343 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236335
I have no intention of making a LOLAEW page, but if someone does then of course your paragraph would be better.
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The Sheik - Tue, 21 May 2019 17:02:18 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.6236346 Ignore Report Reply
PAC vs. Hangman full match

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjCSeXMjtJw
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Kristal - Tue, 21 May 2019 17:04:41 EST ID:RTwBvnrm No.6236348 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236346
Page is so god damn bland it hurts.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Tue, 21 May 2019 17:04:42 EST ID:It2BUKqt No.6236349 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236342
>It was purposefully over the top and not in any way intended to be serious.

"I was only pretending to be an asshole, I swear!"
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Greg Gagne - Tue, 21 May 2019 17:13:57 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6236358 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236349
AEW hasn't even put on a show yet, Blindly hating them or blindly loving them is dumb at the point.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Tue, 21 May 2019 17:20:06 EST ID:It2BUKqt No.6236364 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236358
Take that lesson to heart and stop hating AEW so much that nearly every time you mention it, you have to take a pathetic cheap shot at the company (e.g., your sodium-heavy “console wars” thread).
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Greg Gagne - Tue, 21 May 2019 17:24:42 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6236371 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236364
>Take that lesson to heart and stop hating AEW so much

I literally don't because it would be illogical to hate a company that hasn't even done a show yet. I'm mildly excited to see how they produce their tv show and hope it's good.

Take a chill pill and stop sperging out all over the board tonight
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Lenny Lane - Tue, 21 May 2019 17:27:01 EST ID:nBQxUchQ No.6236374 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6236329
>>6236334
>>6236335
>>6236342
>>6236349
>>6236364
>>6236349
Just FYI, this guy >>6236358 is one the tiny handful of TNA fundamentalists left on this board and is just eternally pissy about hte existence of the LOLTNA page to begin with. He can't stand his precious little store brand frosted flakes pro wrestling show being rightfully mocked for being inferior. Truth hurts.
LEAVE MUH TNA ALONE YOU BULLIES
lmao
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Tue, 21 May 2019 17:27:51 EST ID:It2BUKqt No.6236376 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236374
So TNAMecca finally shut down?
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Greg Gagne - Tue, 21 May 2019 17:46:41 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6236398 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236374
letting TNA live in your head like this isn't healthy bro.

Did you get transported here from redit by accident?
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Tue, 21 May 2019 17:48:34 EST ID:It2BUKqt No.6236400 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6236398
Did you?
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Greg Gagne - Tue, 21 May 2019 17:49:55 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6236401 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236400
>no u

oh well it was only a matter of time before you decided to shit all over the board.
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Lenny Lane - Tue, 21 May 2019 17:50:06 EST ID:nBQxUchQ No.6236402 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236376
Yes, the owner Chris Regal faked his death but couldn't stay away and got caught, largely due to the efforts of Hobbes from The F4W Board where they used to have the TNA Mecca threads documenting the insanity of TNA jihadis.
The last remaining few, literally 5 or 6 people, moved onto this new place DiscussPW (hich despite it's name, you are only allowed discuss Impact there and will get banned/shouted out if you don't). Here is a sample of what they are like;
https://twitter.com/TrevorDame/status/1130123117521584129
Without exception, all hardcore TNA fundamentalist fans are insane.
lolcow city
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Danny Doring - Tue, 21 May 2019 17:50:48 EST ID:CQBdLwkU No.6236404 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236374
TNA has legally been out of business since 2017.
Anyone who still uses the moniker LOLTNA at every turn is the one with issues.
You'll say it's still TNA which it is in a lot of respects but if you hate a company for their past, you should literally hate every pro-wrestling company in existence.
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Lenny Lane - Tue, 21 May 2019 17:51:25 EST ID:nBQxUchQ No.6236405 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236401
What was your TNAMecca username?
Which one were you?
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Goldust - Tue, 21 May 2019 17:58:16 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6236412 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236404
Greg Gagne RNG is a gigantic shitposter, but quite frankly, that doesn't make the other side of this whole shitpost fest any less stupid.

TNA is dead, has been dead for a couple of years now. It's okay to let go, instead of still trying to push "LOLTNA" every chance possible.
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Greg Gagne - Tue, 21 May 2019 18:18:17 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6236419 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236405
You've been following me around the board for like an hour screaming about TNA, a promotion you evidently don't even like.

So, is talking positively about TNA allowed here, or are you going to scream about it some more if we say that it was a good wrestling show with plenty of great matches and angles?
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Tue, 21 May 2019 18:21:00 EST ID:It2BUKqt No.6236421 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236419
Scream? No. Laugh? Oh, abso-fuckin’-lutely.
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Jeremy Borash - Tue, 21 May 2019 18:23:37 EST ID:g0JhSpRF No.6236425 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6236402
imagine being so obsessed with a bunch tna fanboys sharing their fanboy opinions on social media like any other fanboy living on this planet.
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Greg Gagne - Tue, 21 May 2019 18:31:13 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6236429 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236421
forgot to turn your trip off
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Lenny Lane - Tue, 21 May 2019 18:33:45 EST ID:nBQxUchQ No.6236431 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6236419
hahahaha
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Shuri - Tue, 21 May 2019 20:59:10 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.6236497 Ignore Report Reply
https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1130979376131133442

Tye Dillinger confirmed for Double or Nothing
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Terry Taylor - Tue, 21 May 2019 21:03:28 EST ID:yCw7X2Jg No.6236504 Ignore Report Reply
What in the fuck am I trying to read in this thread? Some dude was clearly just roleplaying a LOLAEW page for fun. It read like he was fucking around and everyone jumped down his throat. Then people decided that he is the only person left on this board who likes Impact Wrestling. This isn't about Impact VS AEW. He was joking. It wasn't funny in the slightest but this reminds me of the people who lose their shit when someone posts a Russo webm.

Calm down. Impact is doing great nowadays and it's fun to watch. AEW isn't a thing yet and I'm sure it will be fine. WWE is an anus. Throwing shit at people for enjoying Impact is getting a little bit ridiculous at this point.
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Terry Taylor - Tue, 21 May 2019 21:05:41 EST ID:yCw7X2Jg No.6236507 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236412
This guy is right. You all sound retarded right now.
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Hayabusa - Tue, 21 May 2019 21:06:12 EST ID:DpmzHgn8 No.6236508 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6236497
The ten stands for one solitary dime being drawn.
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Mass Transit - Tue, 21 May 2019 22:59:52 EST ID:kpSOZTS5 No.6236561 Ignore Report Reply
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>Figures that its 2019 and Double or Nothing will probably be pretty cheap

>Looks around for ways to watch the PPV and support the company

>FORTY NINE FUCKING DOLLARS AND NINETY NINE CENTS

>TWO THOUSAND AND FUCKING NINETEEN

Piracy it is then
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Mari Apache - Wed, 22 May 2019 04:03:58 EST ID:WapxwFN8 No.6236630 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236504
yes, I don't know anyone saw the post where I called for "this shithole company to be closed down" and thought it was in any way serious. I was texting my friend earlier about the Pac/Page thing and I said "I'm done with this company, they've let me down too many times" and he immediately knew I was joking around. too many people here with hair trigger tempers who don't understand irony.

As I said, hating AEW at this point makes no sense. But at the same time, the people who are so uptight about it, that even a little joking around makes them feel the need to rush and in and defend the company, are just as pathetic
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Natalya - Wed, 22 May 2019 06:08:51 EST ID:VRq3iXIM No.6236637 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236630
AEWeenies can't take a joke. They are deathly serious about their wrestling company and its pandering.
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Raven - Wed, 22 May 2019 07:52:29 EST ID:vMw0Y8LB No.6236651 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236637
That's exactly the wrong attitude
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Wed, 22 May 2019 09:48:59 EST ID:It2BUKqt No.6236675 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236637
It’s less that people “can’t take a joke” and more that people don’t want to see AEW fail right out of the gate — and even if it is “just joking”, saying AEW “deserves to fail” and describing it as a “shithole company” does not help AEW succeed. Be critical of AEW, I don’t mind. Be wary of whether it can succeed. Skepticism is good. But don’t go around shitting all over AEW because your favorite company gets shit on all the time or whatever. It deserves a fair shot at proving whether it is shit or gold.
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Larry Sweeney - Wed, 22 May 2019 10:11:53 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6236680 Ignore Report Reply
>The issue with last Friday's broadcast of Impact on Pursuit was the latest in a long line of headaches when it comes to the Pursuit Channel. For whatever reason, the channel has been very slow in responding to Impact requests and dealing with reported issues, such as listing Impact as four different 30 minute episodes. This week's technical issue with the last 24 minutes of the show being replaced by commercials was beyond frustrating for everyone in the company and the hope is that they'll find a new, better TV outlet for the Fall.

>Add the NWA to the list of those who had strong interest in Jordynne Grace before she signed officially with Impact on Sunday.

>The Great Muta will be working a tag match at the 6/8 “Night You Can’t Mist” broadcast from House of Hardcore on Impact Plus.

>Several readers sent word that the Impact Wrestling TV tapings on 6/6 and 6/7 at the Melrose Ballroom are discounted on Groupon, listed as $19 for general admission (down from $36.58) per taping or $29 for a combination ticket to each night.
***

>The "Bash at the Beach" trademark by Cody Rhodes was given an initial refusal by The USPTO because likelihood of confusion with WWE's registered "The Bash" trademark.

>His trademark for "Dusty Rhodes" has also been given an initial refusal because of likelihood of confusion to the "Dustin Rhodes" trademark registered to Dustin Runnels.

>All his other trademarks - BattleBowl, Bunkhouse Stampede, The Prince of Wrestling, The American Nightmare, and The American Dream have been approved to publish for opposition at a later date.
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Elektra - Wed, 22 May 2019 10:22:21 EST ID:BGh6ae0n No.6236683 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236675
>describing it as a “shithole company”

it was clearly a joke comment and if you can't see that you need to check your autism privilege
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Larry Sweeney - Wed, 22 May 2019 10:32:27 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6236687 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236675
What was your AEWMecca username?
Which one were you?
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Hayabusa - Wed, 22 May 2019 10:41:42 EST ID:DpmzHgn8 No.6236691 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6236675
#StandUpForAEW
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Wed, 22 May 2019 10:45:15 EST ID:It2BUKqt No.6236692 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236691
I would, but my left knee is kinda missing its ACL and standing up for long periods of time is a bigger bitch than I am.
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Slick Johnson - Wed, 22 May 2019 10:50:51 EST ID:TpUMNXQS No.6236694 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236692
Yiff in hell, furfag.
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Lance Hoyt - Wed, 22 May 2019 11:25:10 EST ID:0xX9njcA No.6236706 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236675

>helping AEW succeed
>it deserves a fair shot
>don't shit all over a wrestling company for no reason

this is the most boring opinion i've ever seen
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Ryuji Ito - Wed, 22 May 2019 11:50:30 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6236714 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236675
AEW has already proven that it's going to be the same old flippy shit people get bored of. There is a chance that it can succeed, I just don't think that certain decisions that have been made are making things really helpful. The lack of talent depth, the Elite being given management and booking roles, the obvious influence Dave Meltzer has because of his ties to the Elite and also Tony Khan being a long time subscriber, Brandi trying to one up WWE with social justice tactics, people want something different, especially disgruntled fans and those who quit watching wrestling but could come back if something refreshing and entertaining was put on their screens. Instead they're just pandering to the small share of people who follow Being the Elite. That's just not going to work out in the long term.

One of the major issues cropping up other than the above is the $50 price tag for a PPV with a card that does not justify that price. They should have taken the hit and put their very first show free to air on Twitch, YouTube, etc, to get as many eyeballs as possible onto their product, and then start doing PPVs following that. Obviously most people here won't care much about the price because no matter what they were going to watch it in the tubes anyway. But AEW will still get a good amount of gullible marks that will pay that price, but not as many if they reduced the price by say, $20.
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Ricky Ortiz - Wed, 22 May 2019 11:54:10 EST ID:R/mf2eNN No.6236716 Ignore Report Reply
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>anti-AEW circlejerk begins again
can we ban the e-drones already
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Larry Sweeney - Wed, 22 May 2019 11:57:37 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6236718 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236716
>criticizing AEW means you're an e-drone

they need hosses bro
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Bad News Brown - Wed, 22 May 2019 12:02:54 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6236723 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236718
No one's saying they don't, but flippy shit is what's over with a lot of today's wrestling fans & it can be presented in a manner that is eye-catching to a lot of people that don't normally watch wrestling.
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Wed, 22 May 2019 12:04:15 EST ID:N0gMSQCl No.6236724 Report Reply
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>>6236716
I'm considering banning the entire board and becoming King of the Ashes

Can't have console wars if there's not a single person left to fight them

(But seriously guys, please tone down this console wars stuff or else I got start wadding in and start building a pile of skulls. I'm talking about across the board, not just this thread)
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The Great Khali - Wed, 22 May 2019 12:12:05 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6236729 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236716
AEW have just burned me too many times at this point. I think it would be for the best if they close down now, rather than embarrass themselves any further tbh. A lot of fans on the internet are saying this too.

I think we all want to see Kenny Omega have a Wrestlemania match in his career. he deserves better and I think he owes it to us, the wrestling fans, to sign with WWE sometime in the next few years.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Wed, 22 May 2019 12:13:07 EST ID:It2BUKqt No.6236730 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236724
At least bleach my skull first, ’kay?
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Larry Sweeney - Wed, 22 May 2019 12:15:21 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6236731 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236723
>but flippy shit is what's over with a lot of today's wrestling fans
[citation needed]
I'm serious. I honestly think there's a ceiling for the fanbase of that style of wrestling and we're just tricked by how *loud* the internet smark community is.

People like watching GIFs and youtube clips and shit, but if flippy shit were this big drawing thing, then events like the CWC/205 Live and BOSJ would be bigger deals for their companies. TNA buyrates actually dropped for the X Division PPVs. Even PWG's hype has kinda vanished.

Wrestling fans - especially the so-called casual ones that will drop money for a big event or PPV want spectacle and heat and star power. Brock and Batista can still draw in a way that Seth Rollins and Finn Balor can't.
The WCW cruiserweight era was perfection because it was the *opener* for a red hot grudge feud involving Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, Ric Flair, Roddy Piper and Sting.
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Lance Storm - Wed, 22 May 2019 12:26:28 EST ID:NYPvYvas No.6236734 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236729
>AEW have just burned me too many times at this point.
You're saying this before they've even had their first show.

>I think we all want to see Kenny Omega have a Wrestlemania match in his career. he deserves better and I think he owes it to us, the wrestling fans, to sign with WWE sometime in the next few years.
lol e-drones
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Larry Sweeney - Wed, 22 May 2019 12:30:06 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6236735 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6236734
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Lance Storm - Wed, 22 May 2019 12:32:19 EST ID:NYPvYvas No.6236736 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236735
I realised that when I posted it but I posted it anyway
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Bad News Brown - Wed, 22 May 2019 12:36:37 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6236738 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236731
>I honestly think there's a ceiling for the fanbae of that style of wrestling
Probably should've been more clear. If it features guys that fans are into & have reason to give a shit about, flippy-style matches will be over & stay over.

The Cruiserweights in WWE/WCW & the X-Division lost its hype because after a while, they were treated as an afterthought & people had no reason to care about the guys in the division, because they weren't being treated as dudes that mattered. NJPW had/has the same problem with the Jr. & Tag divisions.

AEW right now has a lot of guys fans are into & wrestlers fans care about. So long as they continue to give folks reason to care about the people on the roster, the matches will be over.

Hoss matches would absolutely add some more variety to the company, but just like flippy guys, people will need reason to care about them.
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Larry Sweeney - Wed, 22 May 2019 12:58:02 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6236744 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6236738
> If it features guys that fans are into & have reason to give a shit about, flippy-style matches will be over & stay over.
Yeah... but I also think there's a ceiling to the Young Bucks/Kenny Omega/Cody Rhodes/Elite circlejerking that they do.

There's a weird argument from Elite diehards that say they deserve the credit for ALL IN's box office (and even the G1 Supercard at MSG's box office) but also that "they haven't put on a show yet so you can't judge their creative." It doesn't work both ways, they've shown off their creative skills already and we can judge them for it.

I've watched ALL IN, I've (tried to) watch BTE, I've watched the angles they worked for NJPW US shows and their self-indulgent 6 man tags for ROH. They've shown off their creative ideas... and IMO its limited. They took some weird "meta smark cool heels that are purposely self indulgent to piss off Jim Cornette" and seemingly bought into their hype because of NJPW's momentum in the US and the Bullet Club t-shirts got into Hot Topic. Kenny was a great replacement for AJ Styles and he is a certifiable draw for the homebase in NJPW, but Cody, the Bucks and Hangman are/were riding the wave of Bullet Club's hype... not the other way around.

I just think we've seen the peak of this The Elite style. ALL IN was a "moment" that was bigger than the Elite. The G1 at MSG was a "moment." By the time ALL IN 2 & the TNT roll around, there will have been Dominion, the G1 in Dallas, Slammiversary, Spring Break & GCW's summer, ROH's Best in the World, Summerslam & whatever bullshit WWE is doing, Triplemania AND AAA at MSG all trying to create their own "moments" in this wave of wrestling hype.

They *REALLY* need to switch things up to stay fresh for the TNT show, and I don't know if they've got that in them. IMO, the best thing from ALL IN was the NWA title match and a big part of that was because of the work Dave Lagana put into it. And Magnus, who will never get the credit he deserves, and seems like someone they're not interested in continuing to work with.

And they're loading up their undercard with Sammy Guevara, Sonny Kiss, Jungle Boy and Fenix... all people who are fun for a scramble but I see them and I think "cruiserweight division." I can't help but notice that the most interesting people getting a tryout at the DON battle royal are wrestlers that Joey Janela & GCW took a chance on first.

Its nice that they gave their friend Brandon Cutler a contract, but is he really filling some kind of unique niche in the landscape of wrestling? I get it, they're making their money while they can, hustling Tony Khan and bringing their friends along for the ride. More power to them!
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:00:36 EST ID:It2BUKqt No.6236745 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236744
See, this is how you criticize AEW without going all “console wars” about it.
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Ricky Ortiz - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:13:17 EST ID:3XVR9VoM No.6236756 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236745
all this started cauae some nerd wrote a fake LOLAEW for shits and u got pissed
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The Great Khali - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:16:38 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6236759 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236744
The biggest turn off for mainstream fans is that so much of the elites appeal is based on that nudge-nudge wink wink fourth wall breaking stuff.

It's not clear how AEW kayfabe will work in an organisation that everyone knows is being booked by Omega, the Bucks and Cody. It depends if they can generate a mainstream audience that doesn't care or care to know the backstage mechanics. But if the majority of talk becomes about the how the "Bucks booked themselves to win" or "Cody put over the new guy", then it's going to get weird.

The whole "executive vice president" thing is weird. You're essentially creating a tiered system of wrestlers, where some get healthcare and to be on the booking committee, while others are just regular contractors. If they can keep that smugness away from the screen they stand a chance at being successful, but if it starts feeling like The Young Bucks hour of smugness then I'll turn off.
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Larry Sweeney - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:19:48 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6236762 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236744
>>6236745
Also want to mention that Meltz speculated that ALL IN got around 20K PPV buys and the WGN special got less than 200K viewers... so its not like their audience is actually this huge blow-away number.

I'm not denying their ability to sell out ALL IN and DON. the hype of those events definitely helped secure them a good deal on a great network. But all they've proven so far is they can get a lot of money from a specific subset of fans... not unlike WWE
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Larry Sweeney - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:20:54 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6236763 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236759
>if it starts feeling like The Young Bucks hour of smugness then I'll turn off.
hmmm, I think YB fans would say you're getting "worked"
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Gunner - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:23:09 EST ID:RRZK+vGy No.6236765 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236763
working fans away sounds a little too wwe for my liking. they might want to rethink that approach.
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Larry Sweeney - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:24:18 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6236766 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6236765
and maybe you might want to SUCK IT
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:25:34 EST ID:It2BUKqt No.6236767 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236766
Why suck two 4s when I could suck a single 8?
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Bad News Brown - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:26:20 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6236768 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236744
The idea of AEW being just one big jerkoff session between the Elite is an honest concern I'll admit, but right now, i can't see any reason why they won't try to expand upon the audience they've built up with ALL-IN & Double or Nothing, especially since that potential to expand may have been a big appeal of the promotion to TNT.

Hell, even though they aren't going after the Deisuke Sekimoto's & Hideki Suzuki's of the world yet, they have shown that they're not against signing guys that don't fit the mold of "fast-paced flippy guys," already.
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Larry Sweeney - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:30:08 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6236769 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236768
>they have shown that they're not against signing guys that don't fit the mold of "fast-paced flippy guys"

such as?
https://www.allelitewrestling.com/roster
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Gunner - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:32:22 EST ID:RRZK+vGy No.6236772 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236766
>SUCK IT

a xerox of a xerox is always shitty quality
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:32:23 EST ID:It2BUKqt No.6236773 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236769
>PAC
>Bastard

Now that’s funny.
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Bad News Brown - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:42:23 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6236776 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236769
Cody, MJF & 2019 Chris Jericho aren't exactly fast-paced flip machines.
I mean, even one of the main events for Double or Nothing is a match being built entirely on history, character work & promos.
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Larry Sweeney - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:52:59 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6236777 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236776
>a WWE legend, a WWE veteran, and a WWE hopeful trained by Curt Hawkins
I'm not trying to knock them but I wouldn't say those three scream "variety!" either. Cody just seems to be really interested in working with family, buddies from WWE & OVW, and the trainees of OVW buddies (MJF's other trainer was Pat Buck)

Fuck man, where are the brawlers? where are the hosses? where are the jacked streoid freaks? where are the shooters?

when you look at the AEW roster, who would you say is the most legit guy? the one you'd be most afraid of pissing off?
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Jamie Keyes - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:53:14 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6236778 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236745
Nah, because even then those posts feel like they're overreacting to shit that ultimately won't matter.
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Jamie Keyes - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:55:01 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6236779 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236777
>when you look at the AEW roster, who would you say is the most legit guy? the one you'd be most afraid of pissing off?
Better yet, why does this matter?
The genie is out of the bottle, dude. Everyone knows pro wrestling is a work.

>Fuck man, where are the brawlers?
aka, the boring geeks that can only throw strikes and do basic moves? Nowhere, thank god

>where are the hosses? where are the jacked streoid freaks? where are the shooters?
WWE
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Yuji Nagata - Wed, 22 May 2019 14:05:20 EST ID:Yf+u6gFW No.6236782 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236779
>WWE
>Shooters
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Larry Sweeney - Wed, 22 May 2019 14:06:30 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6236783 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236779
>The genie is out of the bottle, dude. Everyone knows pro wrestling is a work.
And pro wrestling has been circling the drain and seen its hype taken by UFC.
Audiences *want*to suspend their disbelief. "It's not about making me think its real, its about making me forget its fake."

People might know wrestling is determined, but they want to be entertained by the hype and heat of a great fight. This is why Brock Lesnar and Ronda Rousey get more attention for pro wrestling than any other pro wrestler. Fuck man, the mainstream media still pays attention to guys like Hulk Hogan because he is from that era when people could enjoy the escapism. Even Batista attracts interest because he looks "larger than life" whether he's a "real" wrestler or not.

>bruiser brody was a boring geek that could only "throw strikes" and do basic moves
am i being trolled?
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Jamie Keyes - Wed, 22 May 2019 14:09:36 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6236786 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6236783
UFC's going down the drain, too, but ok
hey, let's go with that example. You know who ended up being a big fucking draw for them? Conor Mcgregor. The guy you see in this pic. Doesn't look all that tough and he's not quite the WWE height, but guess what? The public doesn't give that much of a shit about muh look, muh height.
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Bad News Brown - Wed, 22 May 2019 14:11:18 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6236788 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236777
Even if they came from somewhere else like WWE/OVW, it doesn't really matter if these guys all have something substantial to offer AEW.

>>6236778
Again, the biggest point of this argument comes down to having variety in the AEW roster. And yes, variety is something every wrestling fed should have (hell even DG, a promotion regarded as "Japanese flippy shit" has your Ben-K's, Big R's, U-T's, & whatnot that bring a different style) but what matters more than having a roster with various types of wrestler is having a roster full of guys people give a shit about. Having roided up freaks don't really matter if no one cares about them.

A Nick Gage or Deisuke Sekimoto in All Elite would be cool, but they're not what will make or break the company.
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Bad News Brown - Wed, 22 May 2019 14:15:33 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6236789 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236788
Daisuke* nb
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Larry Sweeney - Wed, 22 May 2019 14:19:51 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6236790 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236786
no one ever said it was about "height"
and people have actually *seen* connor fight and win.

i'm not even sure what argument you're trying to make: it doesn't matter who is on the AEW roster cause everyone knows its fake so it can be a roster of flippy geeks and everything is fine?
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Larry Sweeney - Wed, 22 May 2019 16:36:52 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6236855 Ignore Report Reply
>All Elite Wrestling announced on the latest "Road to Double or Nothing" YouTube video that Chris Jericho vs. Kenny Omega will close Saturday's PPV.

>The match will also determine the number one contender to the forthcoming AEW Championship. The winner of Jericho vs. Omega will face the winner of the Casino Battle Royal at a future date to deterine the first-ever AEW Champion.
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Jim Ross - Wed, 22 May 2019 16:40:42 EST ID:nBQxUchQ No.6236861 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6236855
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Zardoz - Wed, 22 May 2019 16:53:55 EST ID:rxIFjo4g No.6236867 Ignore Report Reply
Put the strap on MJF brother
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 22 May 2019 18:15:52 EST ID:t1+WgmzJ No.6236912 Report Reply
>>6236861
It wouldn't surprise me if he's a surprise entrant in the battle royal and wins considering DoN is in Vegas and that's where he lives.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 22 May 2019 18:23:54 EST ID:t1+WgmzJ No.6236916 Report Reply
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First match announced for Best in the World
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Molly Holly - Wed, 22 May 2019 18:32:09 EST ID:59uaXw18 No.6236919 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236916
>Shane Taylor is a champion in ROH

Jesus, ROH is in a worse state than I thought.
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Tammy Jones - Wed, 22 May 2019 18:45:48 EST ID:vo2m0QFV No.6236924 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6236675
If AEW fails because of a few sarcastic jokes on a minor internet forum, then they never deserved to succeed. Honestly, I like AEW and genuinely hope they succeed because I'm bored to tears by WWE. It's become like that embarrassing mid-2000's web comic that I still follow simply because I've done so for years, even though it's long since turned to shit and I don't really care anymore.

But statements like yours saying talk about AEW needs to be coddled in any way because it "doesn't help AEW succeed" (whatever that even means) just makes me want to mock them even more.

AEW has not delivered on anything they've promised yet other than selling merchandise. They built up a lot of hype for themselves, but if they want to change minds and hearts, they'd better deliver Saturday.
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Jamie Keyes - Wed, 22 May 2019 18:49:35 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6236927 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236924
>AEW has not delivered on anything they've promised yet other than selling merchandise
TV deal, bitch
lol at that picture, you may want to follow its advice yourself
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Jim Ross - Wed, 22 May 2019 18:55:03 EST ID:nBQxUchQ No.6236929 Ignore Report Reply
>>6236924
>Honestly, I like AEW and genuinely hope they succeed
lol no you don't
>Statements like yours...... just makes me want to mock them even more.
congrats on being a shitty petty person
>AEW has not delivered on anything they've promised yet other than selling merchandise.
a line classically parroted by people pushing "le t-shirt company" meme, jt come right out adn say i tstop beating around the bush hinting at it.
>"They built up a lot of hype for themselves, but if they want to change minds and hearts, they'd better deliver Saturday."
>"No honest I really do like AEW"
You know just as well as I do come Saturday you;ll be screaming about LOLAEW and how they failed to meet your very reasonable lofty expectations. Just be honest in your motivations. You dont like them (probably because of their fanbase) and will relish more in their failure because it will give you fodder to shitpost and annoy people on the internet. A real winner at life you must be.
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Jamie Keyes - Wed, 22 May 2019 18:58:10 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6236930 Ignore Report Reply
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So you're a retard, basically? It's not a hard argument to get, the roster has people that are over despite whatever autistic requirements you have. The Elite are living proof of that, ROH was breaking records financially with them like it was nothing.


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