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AEW TV deal Ignore Report Reply
Rorschach - Thu, 09 May 2019 12:18:03 EST ID:PwwgP9Qo No.6230335
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>AEW doESn'T haVE a TV dEal;
>l-l-le t-shirt company;
https://www.thewrap.com/aew-turner-tv-deal-all-elite-wrestling-warnermedia-upfront/
Let us laugh /wooo/
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Thu, 09 May 2019 12:26:58 EST ID:N0gMSQCl No.6230339 Report Reply
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Begun, the promotion wars have
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Makoto - Thu, 09 May 2019 12:29:43 EST ID:z54f/jWb No.6230341 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6230335

>Turner
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Lioness Asuka - Thu, 09 May 2019 12:30:24 EST ID:mCo62Zdl No.6230342 Ignore Report Reply
4.8 Millions on Mexican TV incoming.
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The People - Thu, 09 May 2019 12:34:22 EST ID:T3pNx6NP No.6230344 Ignore Report Reply
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It comes, and so do I.
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Psycho Clown - Thu, 09 May 2019 12:35:03 EST ID:0g8+IxW/ No.6230346 Ignore Report Reply
As happy as I am about this, I also feel cynical and shitty about how it's probably way too late and the WWE will slowly strangle any alternative (because let's be real, nobody can compete with them at this point) to death.

I will definitely be watching, though. Unless it fucking sucks, which let's be honest, current wrestling TV doesn't exactly set the bar high.
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The People - Thu, 09 May 2019 12:37:17 EST ID:T3pNx6NP No.6230347 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230346
Honestly, watch it even if it does suck. At this point shit won't get better unless WWE actually feels any sort of friction from competition. There's a good chance it won't do shit, but dammit the hope for something better is too tempting to roll with.
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Wahoo McDaniel - Thu, 09 May 2019 12:39:54 EST ID:DpmzHgn8 No.6230352 Ignore Report Reply
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*jobs to Supernatural reruns*
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Naruki Doi - Thu, 09 May 2019 12:43:22 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.6230355 Ignore Report Reply
>Turner plans to begin airing a weekly AEW wrestling show this fall on TNT.

>Chris Jericho, Pac (formerly Neville in WWE) and Kenny Omega to wrestle, among others, as well as WWE legend Jim Ross on commentary.

I can see Jim Ross going "What da hell is Big Mark Cal-away doing in da A EEE Dubya!"
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Primo - Thu, 09 May 2019 12:44:51 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.6230356 Ignore Report Reply
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>Turner
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Umaga - Thu, 09 May 2019 12:47:35 EST ID:6ob5T6fy No.6230357 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6230335
>>6230341
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Eli Cottonwood - Thu, 09 May 2019 12:47:45 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6230358 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230335
Except it's been out there for weeks that they will be at the upfront. This is nothing new, and AEW continues to be the embarrassment of pro wrestling that is hyping itself far too much only to end up disappointing the few fans that will watch it.
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Psycho Clown - Thu, 09 May 2019 12:48:24 EST ID:0g8+IxW/ No.6230359 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230355
Booger Red returns! The Conscience of AEW!
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Rorschach - Thu, 09 May 2019 12:51:55 EST ID:PwwgP9Qo No.6230362 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6230358
>This is nothing new, and AEW continues to be the embarrassment of pro wrestling that is hyping itself far too much only to end up disappointing the few fans that will watch it.
C O P E
O
P
E-drone
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Lioness Asuka - Thu, 09 May 2019 12:56:26 EST ID:mCo62Zdl No.6230367 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230362
Go back
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Raisha Saeed - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:00:19 EST ID:7qC7vcaL No.6230368 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230346
WWE is rating worse than WCW at the end and TNA did. The company has zero stars. It's never been easier to take top position (in popularity at least, not money for 5 years at least).
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Miyako Matsumoto - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:00:28 EST ID:KF0t5CEx No.6230369 Ignore Report Reply
How mad is Vince right now you think?
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Rorschach - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:01:02 EST ID:PwwgP9Qo No.6230370 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230367
Calm down
Take a bath
Meditate
Because you are boiling over right now
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Abraham Washington - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:01:23 EST ID:LZGysUDg No.6230371 Ignore Report Reply
How long before WWE starts taking weekly cheap shots at them?
They already did a few during the HOF
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Lioness Asuka - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:02:21 EST ID:mCo62Zdl No.6230373 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230370
You wanna know how I know youre not from here?
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Rorschach - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:04:54 EST ID:PwwgP9Qo No.6230378 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6230373
Wanna know how I know you're gay ?
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D'Lo Brown - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:07:29 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6230381 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230373
There isn't a "here" to be from you fucking loser, it'a an anonymous imageboard. Leave your kiddy board wars/exclusive club shit at the door.

Anyway, what kind of reach will AEW have with this deal?
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Lioness Asuka - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:09:27 EST ID:mCo62Zdl No.6230385 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230381
Enjoy your Wojak Edit #12185385 polposters.
Warned
User has been warned
Warned by: Kirtaner
Message: don't be part of the problem
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Miyako Matsumoto - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:11:05 EST ID:KF0t5CEx No.6230386 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230371
I hope they go all out with taking shots at AEW because it'll just make them look bad each time.
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D'Lo Brown - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:16:41 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6230391 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230385
You could stop antagonising them for one. That'd be a neat start.
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Matt Bentley - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:19:39 EST ID:jEGuiRVR No.6230393 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230346
How do you think Vince plans to strangle them when they have that big Khan coin? If AEW makes profit for a year or two there'll be nothing Vince can do.

Also
>current wrestling TV doesn't exactly set the bar high
watch better wrestling
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Danny Doring - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:24:28 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6230394 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230393
It's true, though.
Name good wrestling on TV in North America.
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StannisTheMannis !/R33EULsds - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:25:18 EST ID:H/FCRMud No.6230395 Ignore Report Reply
Honestly, this is good news all around. For one, more wrestling on TV is always a good thing. There's enough buzz with a lot of the AEW mainstays right now (Cody, Kenny, the Bucks) that the average layperson might start looking at wrestling as being "cool" again. And this might finally what lights the fire under Vince's ass to get things really going in the E, as it did last time he had real competition. There is no way we lose in this scenario. Rejoice.
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Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:30:23 EST ID:aYdd1DeT No.6230400 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6230335
Calling it now, their first show on tv will pull a 3.0.

>>6230373
>>6230367
>>6230358
>>6230385
>e-drones seething and on suicide watch
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Psycho Clown - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:36:04 EST ID:0g8+IxW/ No.6230403 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230393
The same way he fucked others. Using market shares, clout, brand recognition, and long-standing ties to interfere. Money isn't everything when you also have a huge brand name and two decades of basically being synonymous with wrestling, and I doubt Khan wants to spend infinity money for relatively little return. Technically ROH has Sinclair money, and that didn't stop Vince and Haitch from fucking them raw in every orifice.
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Johnny C. - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:43:37 EST ID:cfOXxE22 No.6230406 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230403
Not sure how any of that can affect AEW, who will at least initially appeal heavily to fans who grew tired of WWE's bullshit and want something new to watch on TV.

AEW already has a pretty solid roster tied down to contracts, WWE can't just walk in and take them all away.
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Lioness Asuka - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:47:33 EST ID:mCo62Zdl No.6230409 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230394
MLW
NJPW
Impact
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Orlando Jordan - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:55:28 EST ID:VFywvc1W No.6230415 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230346
RevPro had a pretty strong TV product with their short stint on Freesports last year, definitely worth watching if you can find it as it isn't on their service
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Masked Superstar - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:58:31 EST ID:tkcs+SYj No.6230419 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFzLd8EK3sU
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Primo - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:59:31 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.6230423 Ignore Report Reply
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Can’t wait for CIMA to bring in the big ratings
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Rorschach - Thu, 09 May 2019 14:04:09 EST ID:PwwgP9Qo No.6230424 Ignore Report Reply
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crazy 'ol Ted never forgets Vince
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Wahoo McDaniel - Thu, 09 May 2019 14:20:41 EST ID:DpmzHgn8 No.6230428 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230424
Based Vince going over shoot alzheimers
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Thu, 09 May 2019 14:20:58 EST ID:Ss6pSDV9 No.6230429 Report Reply
>>6230424
Vince McMahon was raped at gunpoint in the bustling chaos of a TBS studio in the summer of '92
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Desmond Wolfe - Thu, 09 May 2019 15:36:44 EST ID:iLe2GkB4 No.6230451 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230424
>lel AEW doesn't even have a TV deal
>gets TV deal
>I-I-I-IT DOESN'T MATTER!
Based Ted trolling Vince and his internet jockstrap sniffers.
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Maryse - Thu, 09 May 2019 15:43:47 EST ID:ykkhl/vg No.6230454 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230368
This. AEW likely won't ever be in a position to send WWE out of business but beating their ratings won't be much of a challenge, if they pull even 2007 TNA numbers they'll be there. It's interesting how they've basically mirrored the exact circumstances of Nitro's launch - big names (relative to the small following of wrestling right now) jumping ship. hitting TV when national interest is cripplingly low, backed by a billionaire signing blank cheques, seemingly on a Turner Network, if they fuck it up and become ROH 2.0. they only have themselves to blame, you couldn't ask for better timing.
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Hikari Minami - Thu, 09 May 2019 15:45:00 EST ID:saIdyZbs No.6230455 Ignore Report Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Nigel McGuinness - Thu, 09 May 2019 15:47:11 EST ID:qZ3kVc2f No.6230456 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230409
MLW's Bein deal is in question
NJPW's AXS deal is mainly just reruns of old shows.
Impact's television reach is laughable.

Don't get me wrong, all three of those brands put out a waaaaay better product than RAW, and most of the times SmackDown as well. But as far as accessible television, if you live out in the middle of nowhere and lack internet, you might either have ROH or WWE and that's it. If AEW lands on TNT, then it's gonna reach a wide variety of people that might not have other options.
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Naruki Doi - Thu, 09 May 2019 15:50:56 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.6230457 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230456
>Impact's television reach is laughable

Fixed that for you
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Psicosis - Thu, 09 May 2019 15:50:58 EST ID:2lWc+6zL No.6230458 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230347
>Honestly, watch it even if it does suck

If people can do it for WWE they can do it for this
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Psicosis - Thu, 09 May 2019 15:53:23 EST ID:2lWc+6zL No.6230460 Ignore Report Reply
btw honest question, I know WWE probably aren't feeling threatened or anything, but, considering Vince's fortune is at stake if WWE tanks...

...how threatened would Vince have to be before he arranges a hit on the Khans
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Nigel McGuinness - Thu, 09 May 2019 16:09:23 EST ID:qZ3kVc2f No.6230469 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230460
When his show gets cancelled. Compare WCW 1995 attendance to WWF 1995 attendance. He never put out an actual hit against Turner. Just tried making fun of him on TV.

>>6230457
The product has been great for months, with the only shitty thing being bringing in Bland Elgin who has little to no redeemable qualities.
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Lance Storm - Thu, 09 May 2019 16:11:54 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6230470 Ignore Report Reply
More than anything else, the idea of CIMA, T-Hawk & El Lindaman possibly being on the Turner Networks is the biggest reason why I'm hyped for AEW.

>>6230457
An attempt was made
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Daisuke Harada - Thu, 09 May 2019 16:47:38 EST ID:TWpR7pUZ No.6230482 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230455

Even though it's a gif, I can hear based Schiavone welcoming me to Monday Nitro. Maximum comfy.
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Colonel DeBeers - Thu, 09 May 2019 17:21:46 EST ID:cM/NdENL No.6230491 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6230470
CIMA finally making his grand return to the Turner Network.
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Lena Yada - Thu, 09 May 2019 17:44:57 EST ID:aKhBZiaw No.6230493 Ignore Report Reply
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Off topic but here me out

NASA claimed there was a giant meteorite that apparently was visible from their telescopes around Feb of this year. There is a conspiracy theory going around that NASA's New Mexico branch was shut down not because of their childporn accusations but because when they saw the meteor they wanted to do some "scientific tests" to evaluate the damage of if this meteor were to come to earth

99/100 tests said it would end all life on earth and if the meteor itself doesn't kill everyone the toxic ash cloud will and or the Hypercane which will cycle around the entire earth six times before finally dilapidating making sure we will all die

So if by May 25th which is the estimated time of arrival for said Meteor doesn't show up and kill us all then I will invest stock into AEW. Because that Meteor might be the only thing that Vince could use as leverage to sink AEW back a couple pegs.
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The Blue Meanie - Thu, 09 May 2019 17:48:09 EST ID:QfdOh4Ns No.6230494 Ignore Report Reply
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>tfw Craig Harlan and Jim Ross commentary duo
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Rorschach - Thu, 09 May 2019 18:21:04 EST ID:PwwgP9Qo No.6230507 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230491
Im lowkey hyped for Jericho v CIMA match
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Zardoz - Thu, 09 May 2019 18:32:14 EST ID:rxIFjo4g No.6230515 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230493
Elaborate further on this imminent death you speak of.
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Lena Yada - Thu, 09 May 2019 18:55:53 EST ID:aKhBZiaw No.6230529 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230515

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/giant-meteor-set-wipe-out-10320379
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Naruki Doi - Thu, 09 May 2019 19:03:00 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.6230530 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230529
> a conspiracy theorist archaeologist claims
go away tin foil
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Kevin Sullivan - Thu, 09 May 2019 19:03:25 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6230531 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230529
>uk tabloids
oh okay so we're totally safe good to know
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Rorschach - Thu, 09 May 2019 19:11:38 EST ID:PwwgP9Qo No.6230532 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230529
>red top UK tabloid
THIS RIGHT HERE BROTHER, IS WHAT THEY CALL A RAG SHEET DUDE
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Poison Sawada JULIE - Thu, 09 May 2019 19:13:29 EST ID:4fzaLmAg No.6230533 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6230529
it never happened
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Turbo - Thu, 09 May 2019 19:14:33 EST ID:2oYJaLCh No.6230535 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230529
This is almost as legit as if your source was that dude with the hair from Ancient Aliens
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Player Dos - Thu, 09 May 2019 19:24:31 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.6230538 Ignore Report Reply
I mean he did say conspiracy theory
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Aldo Montoya - Thu, 09 May 2019 19:36:24 EST ID:A0+g1DX8 No.6230542 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6230532
HEY MURDOCH, MIRROR THIS BROTHER
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Apolo - Thu, 09 May 2019 20:33:04 EST ID:1o0h90SH No.6230558 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6230335
Cool. Now just bring back Godzilla and early 90s kung-fu movie marathons and TNT will be back in its full glory.
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El Dandy - Thu, 09 May 2019 20:35:14 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6230559 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230558
They're under LU/El Rey contracts
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Apolo - Thu, 09 May 2019 20:42:59 EST ID:1o0h90SH No.6230562 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230559
They only show 60s-80s kung-fu movies, tho. If they ever aired Bride with White Hair or Heroic Trio, I must have missed it.
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Jesse Neal - Thu, 09 May 2019 20:46:30 EST ID:dYhrmb6W No.6230563 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230400
>Calling it now, their first show on tv will pull a 3.0.
I mean, TV shows often debut to big numbers due to just basic curiosity, then ratings plummet 2-3 weeks in. They could easily debut at a 3.0 (I doubt they'll go past 1.5 honestly) and tank down below 1.0 the next week. The debut rating of a show isn't really a big indicator of anything (unless it's really, really, really low).

Like most things with this promotion, AEW marks need to temper their expectations. Just because AEW is at the Turner upfronts doesn't mean they're going to be on a flagship network like TBS or TNT. Turner also owns smaller networks like TruTV, TCM, GSN, the Audience network, PLUS they're supposed to be launching a streaming service. It's far more likely AEW lands on Audience network or whatever the streaming platform is, or a super late night spot if they're going to be on TBS or TNT. It's naive and incredibly wishful thinking to assume they're going to get a primetime, weekday spot on one of the 2 flagship networks. It's better to temper your expectations now and be surprised if it's something better, than getting your hopes up for a MASSIVE TV deal and being disappointed.

But then again, AEW marks were the same people insisting for months that "Tuesday Night Dynamite" would be live at 8PM on The CW, and we saw how that panned out.
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Bob Armstrong - Thu, 09 May 2019 22:05:58 EST ID:PwwgP9Qo No.6230591 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6230563
ya upset
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DrHouse !DOGLetgMcA - Thu, 09 May 2019 22:25:53 EST ID:UYbRUHoF No.6230595 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230563
You know you had a decent point until dropping AEW marks now I just assume you hate the bucks or something.
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Sho Funaki - Thu, 09 May 2019 22:39:44 EST ID:657WP9mS No.6230598 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6230339
Unfortunately, at this point in pro wrestling's history, having a big promotional war now is like the Battle of Kings's Landing.
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Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Thu, 09 May 2019 22:56:08 EST ID:aYdd1DeT No.6230602 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6230563
>m-m-m-muh aew marks!11
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Disco Inferno - Fri, 10 May 2019 02:15:55 EST ID:aOdAo6AE No.6230640 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230493
>then I will invest stock into AEW

You will not. Not a publicly traded company.
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BxB Hulk - Fri, 10 May 2019 03:21:54 EST ID:2lWc+6zL No.6230644 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230563
>It's better to temper your expectations now and be surprised if it's something better, than getting your hopes up for a MASSIVE TV deal and being disappointed.

thanks for your concern
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 10 May 2019 04:08:07 EST ID:mgS8w6Dk No.6230649 Report Reply
So possibly two hour show every Tuesday night 8-10 I presume? Dunno how they’ll tape it unless they plan on it being live every week, which would be expensive to do. it’s probably going to get like 1.0-1.3 ratings and I’d be surprised if it were higher than that.
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Mister Pogo - Fri, 10 May 2019 04:34:01 EST ID:8gLeDazw No.6230653 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230640
>He hasn't bought CodyCoin/KhanCoin
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DashingCN - Fri, 10 May 2019 06:56:59 EST ID:VfUs3h25 No.6230669 Ignore Report Reply
If AEW doesn't get preempted during basketball season, things should be ok
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Wedge !esCRZuVTtY - Fri, 10 May 2019 08:38:11 EST ID:47lGieth No.6230682 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230649
Probably 2 hours, but honestly they should really start at 1 hour for the first few months at least. If ratings are the goal, more people are likely to tune in for an hour at a time rather than set aside essentially an entire evening for one unknown property, and NXT and LU both had great success (in terms of fan reaction and hype) 4-5 years ago as hour long programs. A 3-match per show format with one awesome ~20 minute main event and good character building angles would go a long way toward establishing the brand and tone.
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Rey Mysterio - Fri, 10 May 2019 10:03:30 EST ID:jEGuiRVR No.6230701 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6230669
>thinking people who are fans of the Elite watch basketball
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KENTA - Fri, 10 May 2019 10:41:47 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.6230713 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230701
That's not what they were saying. The NBA comes on TNT.
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CRAPCOM !SNGayGTIcE - Fri, 10 May 2019 11:06:16 EST ID:oBoI/UZ6 No.6230728 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230713
man, TNT has really let the lewd content fly since i stopped using cable
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Christina Von Eerie - Fri, 10 May 2019 11:26:04 EST ID:Jsd/Y6NR No.6230744 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230701

Basketball will get priority over wrestling. There isn't enough Elite pleebs to over take NBA fans.
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Adrian Adonis - Fri, 10 May 2019 11:29:07 EST ID:DpmzHgn8 No.6230748 Ignore Report Reply
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*jobs to March Madness*
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Ernesto Osiris - Fri, 10 May 2019 11:29:18 EST ID:6zVWU+6j No.6230749 Ignore Report Reply
I say this as someone who will watch the product and really hope they do well but I still have an irrational dislike of the name All Elite Wrestling.
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El Dandy - Fri, 10 May 2019 12:43:58 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6230821 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230749
yeah it sounds kinda weird "Ali Leet" "allah Leet" "ayy eee dubyou"
this would have been a nice opportunity to break away from Three Letter Promotion
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Mark Henry - Fri, 10 May 2019 12:51:21 EST ID:tsNg5/qg No.6230828 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230749
>I still have an irrational dislike of the name All Elite Wrestling
I don't hate it but I don't really get it either. "All Elite" sounds unnatural, but maybe it's because I'm not a native english speaker?
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Serena Deeb - Fri, 10 May 2019 12:57:35 EST ID:NYPvYvas No.6230833 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230828
Nah I think it sounds a little weird too. Kinda makes me wonder why they didn't just go for 'Elite Wrestling' instead. Maybe wrestling fans are just so used to promotions having three letter acronyms that it wouldn't work as well, I dunno.
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Fri, 10 May 2019 13:06:59 EST ID:Ss6pSDV9 No.6230840 Report Reply
>>6230833
EW is a hilarious acronym, that's probably why
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Steve Corino - Fri, 10 May 2019 13:22:25 EST ID:nYZ8AKjd No.6230851 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6230454
> you couldn't ask for better timing

You really couldn't. I remember a couple years back Meltzer saying that WWE was fucking up so spectacularly that if a billionaire came along with the Fertitta-like mindset that you have to have lose tens of millions just to get your foot in the door, that shit would get interesting really fast. Well, here we are. Their mostly horrible product has caused the chickens to come home to roost. Fans are leaving in fucking droves. 25% in a single year is insane. A fresh product with better wrestling and a new style of promotion and presentation, that doesn't insult their fans' intelligence with stupid storylines that are devoid of logic will absolutely take a bite out of their market share, it's just a question of how much.

Personally, I've tempered my expectations. They won't start out doing huge numbers, and the weird WWE defense force will proclaim victory immediately. Over the long haul though, I could see them doing peak-TNA ratings, which aren't that far off from what Raw and SD are pulling these days. They don't have to beat Raw, but if they come even close to what SD is pulling now Vince & Co. are going to lose their fucking minds. While it's true competition drove WWE to get better 20 years ago, Vince wasn't an out of touch 70 year old who had lost it at that point. I'm not so sure creatively they're even able to step up these days.

It'll be fun to finally have a real US based alternative at least. AEW should be good, but we'll see.
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SoCal Val - Sat, 11 May 2019 00:57:15 EST ID:Yg7V4+qd No.6231075 Ignore Report Reply
Hey Vince. I'm getting back in the wrasslin business.
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Chii Tomiya - Sat, 11 May 2019 01:01:34 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6231077 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230851
>a couple years back Meltzer saying
wait a second
he had Khan's info from the subscriber thing
he had contacts to The Elite

was this all exactly as keikaku?
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Mia Yim - Sat, 11 May 2019 03:14:18 EST ID:Rzo+lnm/ No.6231085 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6231077

>So yeah... It was me, Vince. It was... uh... me Vince, all along... uh yeah... It is what it is.
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The Blue Meanie - Sat, 11 May 2019 03:35:58 EST ID:2lWc+6zL No.6231087 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230851
But I wonder if wrestling is a sinking ship in general.

This seems more like a gift of a passion project from a rich guy to his bored son

Probably dad wishes his son was normal and would just enter real estate or something, but instead he wants in on this dying industry so he can hang out with the Young Bucks

Just feels like they're gonna be fighting over scraps
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Mt. Fiji - Sat, 11 May 2019 03:51:48 EST ID:Rj2QLcc2 No.6231091 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230821
>"Ali Leet" "allah Leet"
Got somethng on the mind there buddy?
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Chii Tomiya - Sat, 11 May 2019 08:15:48 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6231121 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231087
>But I wonder if wrestling is a sinking ship in general.
I think it depends on your baseline.
I don't think they'll be Monday Night Wars huge. Basically nobody can do that simply by virtue of how many different things there are to watch at any given moment.
It's like how there's big animals, but nobody's getting as big as dinosaur times just because the difference in oxygen levels fucks the baseline so you don't get giant bugs so you don't get giant everything eating bugs so you don't get giant dinosaurs eating everything below that.

But as things stand it seems that the industry at large in the USA is going pretty okay. There's only _so_ much money to launder so obviously somebody has to be going to all these indie shows, and there seems to be a whole lot more "bigger" small shows. Maybe it's the prominence that streaming is giving to promotions of a size that's always been there but it certainly feels like there's a lot more.
>>6231091
I had reading up on international studies and ur mom
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Bull Nanako - Sat, 11 May 2019 08:46:03 EST ID:7qC7vcaL No.6231125 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231087
If WWE wasn't dragging everything else down, we'd be in a boom time. Being outside of WWE/WCW hasn't been this good since Vince killed the territories. The average level of talent in the industry right now may be the highest its ever been with match quality through the roof. The Elite has done what's been considered impossible time and time again with merch and ticket sales because everyone is measuring them by WWE standards and how WWE works.

Look at AEW fans and look at who goes to WWE shows. They are not the same people. They're a lot younger for starters, lot of dyed hair and hipster fashions too which may bring doom in the future but that's another discussion. Fact is there's an untapped audience out there that wants wrestling but not WWE's. More importantly they're willing to pay for it. A lot in many cases.
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Damien 666 - Sat, 11 May 2019 11:16:20 EST ID:3bWxQu1w No.6231157 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230828
I am a native English speaker and it does sound awkward. Should have gone with All STAR Wrestling i m o. Or if they really wanted to stick with the Elite branding maybe something like "Elite Wrestling Federation"
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Claudio Castagnoli - Sat, 11 May 2019 11:36:02 EST ID:NYPvYvas No.6231168 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231157
>Should have gone with All STAR Wrestling i m o.
That's so generic that there's no way it's not taken already.
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Damien 666 - Sat, 11 May 2019 11:39:17 EST ID:3bWxQu1w No.6231169 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231087
>But I wonder if wrestling is a sinking ship in general.
I don't think the business is irrevocably damaged... yet. It all depends on who is being listened to backstage at AEW. If they can produce a compelling show that doesn't insult your intelligence, build superstars, stop hyper-scripting everything, have matches with psychology, there is no reason that shouldn't gain a sizeable audience. Especially if they are given time to build.

But if AEW fails, and Vince is allowed to continue strangling WWE, it wouldn't surprise me if wrestling as a whole peters out.
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Damien 666 - Sat, 11 May 2019 11:40:40 EST ID:3bWxQu1w No.6231171 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231168
a few indies and defunct promotions have it I think
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Rosie Lottalove - Sat, 11 May 2019 12:05:05 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6231179 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231157
both very bad ideas
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Vine - Sat, 11 May 2019 12:05:47 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6231180 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231087
>But I wonder if wrestling is a sinking ship in general.
Well it is, because WWE brings everything down, a good number of other promotions have had some bad times lately, and with people desperate for an alternative, it turns out that AEW certainly won't be that because of how much it wants to copy WWE in many facets (including parts that are wanted to be avoided such as the virtue signalling being copied by Brandi), as well as lacking talent depth by focusing solely on flippy guys. Doesn't help that guys like Meltzer have been compromised by these people and can't stop shilling for a low-rate upstart.

Getting backing for a billionaire that is a wrestling fan is one thing, but when the whole thing is going to be dominated by a group that has management positions that some like and some don't like, it truly is going to end up a major disappointment.

And before people start yelling out buzzwords from /asp/ in response to this post, I can't stand current day WWE either!
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El Santo - Sat, 11 May 2019 12:38:46 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6231190 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231180
>reporting on AEW is shilling
people like you are such dipshits
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Tetsuya Natio - Sat, 11 May 2019 12:46:57 EST ID:dYhrmb6W No.6231193 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231190
Meltzer doesn't just "report" on AEW though. As soon as the company was announced, he was already calling them the #2 wrestling company in the US.

He's not necessarily "shilling" (that implies he's being paid) but he's definitely got a bit of a bias.
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El Santo - Sat, 11 May 2019 12:49:56 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6231194 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231193
>As soon as the company was announced, he was already calling them the #2 wrestling company in the US.
it's not looking like he's wrong about that
outside of WWE, what's #2? ROH after losing The Elite and SCU?

>he's definitely got a bit of a bias
By definition, everyone does when they provide their own opinion about something. If we really want this to turn into a shit discussion, I could say you're biased against Dave in order to deflect criticism, much like you could say I'm a Meltzer drone to deflect that.
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Jazz - Sat, 11 May 2019 12:55:53 EST ID:dHxeC7Yp No.6231197 Ignore Report Reply
Great news all around, however like others have said I’m very curious as to what TNT/AEW will do during basketball season, considering the NBA/NCAA deal is TNT’s golden goose and even their pre/post-game shows do solid ratings.
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Leva Bates - Sat, 11 May 2019 12:56:38 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6231198 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231194
I mean if I were in Tony Khan's position, I think it would be shrewd business to offer Meltzer a small 1% stake in the company or whatever. Whether Meltzer would actually accept is another question
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Chii Tomiya - Sat, 11 May 2019 13:02:42 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6231199 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231180
>solely on flippy guys
Pentagon jr isn't a flippy guy by pretty much any "flippy" metric
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 11 May 2019 13:27:25 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6231202 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231197
Don't forget the NBA Playoffs but TNT can just schedule their games around it. I'm sure MLB will do the same for SmackDown for its playoffs hopefully.
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Adrian Adonis - Sat, 11 May 2019 14:40:10 EST ID:jMLd+XDB No.6231231 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6230821
They should have named it Aladeen Wrestling
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The Red Rooster - Sat, 11 May 2019 16:00:32 EST ID:nYZ8AKjd No.6231252 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6231198
>I think it would be shrewd business to offer Meltzer a small 1% stake in the company or whatever

There's nothing to gain from that unless you want to your promotion to look shady. Not to mention if it got out, it would ruin Dave's credibility and undermine the entire reason for doing it in the first place. It doesn't even serve a purpose, it's not like a sizeable chunk of AEW customers aren't already Observer readers.

>>6231193

You're a fucking retard. He called them number 2 because they are. When you manage to sign Kenny Omega, The Bucks and Cody from NJPW/ROH, get Chris Jericho to sign a contract potentially keeping out of WWE for the rest of his career, sell out a major arena in minutes (not tied to a bigger company or piggybacking off Mania), and manage to sign a prime time TV deal with a major network, then yeah, you're ranked above a company with collapsing attendance and calls Matt Taven and Shane Taylor champions .

Calling Meltzer an AEW shill is a pretty clear indicator you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
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Vine - Sat, 11 May 2019 16:12:29 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6231256 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231252
They were being called number 2 despite not having officially held an event of their own at that time and also not having a TV deal AT THAT TIME. And really, you go on about the signings, who fucking gives much of a shit about those guys? You can't run a promotion revolved around them and be so successful for so long, it will all dry up in time, but they won't realise it because of how many of those guys that have management positions.

And Meltzer is an AEW shill, just look at how hard he defends them on his Twitter and also on F4W's board. Anyone who criticises AEW gets a mouthful from Meltzer. He can't keep the bias away and it will show. Just wait for the star ratings to come.

Dave Meltzer's credibility is getting lower and lower as long as he is so closely tied to AEW. And all it will do is mean people dropping their subscriptions...and I will be one of those soon as long as he keeps at it.

If AEW succeeds then so be it but they were over hyped from the get go instead of naturally becoming an attraction, piggy backing off an event that is technically an ROH event and always will be until they buy the rights.

Those that overhype themselves so much and try to do so much at once end up failing spectacularly. Yes, wrestling needs an alternative, but AEW is not that.
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Slick Johnson - Sat, 11 May 2019 16:15:11 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6231258 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231256
>who fucking gives much of a shit about these guys?
People give far more of a fuck about Chris Jericho, Kenny Omega, Cody, The Bucks, the Lucha Bros & PAC than most of the people in other promotions in the US.

If people didn't give a shit about AEW's roster, MGM Grand wouldn't have sold out so quickly
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Tetsuya Natio - Sat, 11 May 2019 16:18:12 EST ID:dYhrmb6W No.6231260 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231252
>Calling Meltzer an AEW shill is a pretty clear indicator you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
I just spelled out in my post that he's not necessarily a shill, you complete retard.

>When you manage to sign Kenny Omega, The Bucks and Cody from NJPW/ROH, get Chris Jericho to sign a contract potentially keeping out of WWE for the rest of his career, sell out a major arena in minutes (not tied to a bigger company or piggybacking off Mania)...
That was my point, most of what you just listed hadn't happened yet. Meltzer was calling AEW the #2 company like 2 days after Double or Nothing sold out. They didn't have Omega yet, they didn't have a TV deal yet, we didn't know if Jericho was signed long term or just for one match. It's hard to argue they're not the #2 promotion now (or at least once they actually put on a show) but Meltzer was saying it like it was fact far too soon.
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Tetsuya Natio - Sat, 11 May 2019 16:22:49 EST ID:dYhrmb6W No.6231261 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231258
>If people didn't give a shit about AEW's roster, MGM Grand wouldn't have sold out so quickly
MGM Grand sold out before most of AEW's roster was even announced (and before Cody and Lucha Bros). It probably would have sold out regardless of announcing any roster. It's their big debut show.

People are excited for the AEW brand (and the idea of another large-scale wrestling promotion) not their roster.
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Slick Johnson - Sat, 11 May 2019 16:30:38 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6231263 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231261
Tickets for Double or Nothing went on sale in early February, after Kenny/Bucks/Cody/Jericho/Lucha Bros/PAC were already announced for the show.
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Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Sat, 11 May 2019 17:00:02 EST ID:aYdd1DeT No.6231274 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6231256
>Dave Meltzer's credibility is getting lower and lower as long as he is so closely tied to AEW.
Battered Stepford Wife "logic".

>And all it will do is mean people dropping their subscriptions
Proof?

>...and I will be one of those soon as long as he keeps at it.
>implying you're a subscriber to begin with

>Yes, wrestling needs an alternative, but AEW is not that.
The mental gymnastics on display from the shit guzzling drones today, are truly gold medal performances.
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Adrian Adonis - Sat, 11 May 2019 19:15:44 EST ID:jMLd+XDB No.6231306 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6231256
>#CANCELWON
lol
like you even have a subscription
keep clutching your pearls and shouting conspiracy ya paranoid dweeb
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Kevin Thorn - Sat, 11 May 2019 20:35:10 EST ID:1AnDr3ro No.6231358 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230358
>hyping itself up too much
Yeah, fuck them for doing promotion and advertisement for a company they want to see succeed
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Conor O'Brian - Sat, 11 May 2019 20:49:02 EST ID:mk3Q2vvE No.6231368 Ignore Report Reply
Where do these Meltzer haters get their opinions from? The Torch?
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Eighth Commandment !zkBGAvsLnM - Sat, 11 May 2019 21:00:12 EST ID:fZTKrr/u No.6231373 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231256
>Honey, come over
>Not until I'm done damaging Dave Meltzer's honor
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Kazarian - Sat, 11 May 2019 21:01:19 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6231374 Ignore Report Reply
Nothing like an AEW thread to show how stupid wrestling fans are as a whole
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Chri - Sat, 11 May 2019 21:01:35 EST ID:Dt7eGiun No.6231375 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231373
Bold of you to assume he's got a honey
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Chyna - Sat, 11 May 2019 21:33:22 EST ID:dYhrmb6W No.6231389 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231263
I thought Lucha Bros were confirmed to be in AEW only like a month ago.
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B.G. James - Sat, 11 May 2019 22:26:08 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6231402 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231374
In what way? Do you support or oppose AEW and / or their fans or detractors?
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Bastion Booger - Sat, 11 May 2019 22:33:03 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6231403 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231389
No. They were announced to be part of AEW at the DoN ticket sale event, the same show that announced most of the card for the show (STH/SCU, PAC/Page, Jericho/Omega, Lucha Bros/Bucks)
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Tyler Black - Sun, 12 May 2019 01:24:51 EST ID:FR/6ywUC No.6231441 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6231274
>The mental gymnastics on display from the shit guzzling drones today, are truly gold medal performances.

RANT

I really hate the term "E-drone" because I think it's possible to defend aspects of WWE without Vince's cock implanted in your colon, but it's really hard to disagree with you here. I really don't get why people are upset that we're getting a new high-level wrestling company with some of the top talent in the world. I don't get why they can't understand why AEW was automatic #2 in the US almost immediately. I don't get why they think Meltzer being friends with that talent is somehow indictive of his inability to an impartial obvserver (clever!). Like, are they under the impression that he didn't have friends in WCW and ECW while reporting on their implosions? That he's not friends with WWE people while shitting on the company every week? Do they think Tony Kahn is the first guy to subscribe to the Observer while running a company? I don't get why they think selling out MGM in under an hour for their first show is no big deal. Why is no one else doing that if it's not? Why do some continue to deny that they're going to be on TNT in prime time? Like, why don't you want a new company to give us awesome wrestling? What the fuck is wrong with them? I know it sounds like I'm just setting up a bunch of strawmen, but every single thing I mentioned has been said on this board.

Fucking weirdos.
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Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Sun, 12 May 2019 01:41:22 EST ID:aYdd1DeT No.6231446 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231441
>I really don't get why people are upset that we're getting a new high-level wrestling company with some of the top talent in the world.
Perhaps the single most puzzling aspect of this entire farce. Why is this a bad thing? How is this a bad thing? Yet the answers elude me and I'm unable to fathom why or how it could be a bad thing to have some real and credible quality programming and booking(I enjoy MLW and Impact, but they ain't it. RoH is a bad meme and the less said the better).

Starting to think we should get the dude from Unsolved Mysteries on the case at this point.

>I don't get why they think selling out MGM in under an hour for their first show is no big deal.
Seriously. Outside of a UFC event or big-name concert, I can't recall the last time I heard of a venue selling out tickets in anywhere near short order. For an up and coming wrestling promotion to do that is quite remarkable.

> I know it sounds like I'm just setting up a bunch of strawmen, but every single thing I mentioned has been said on this board.
"What has happened before will happen again. What has been done before will be done again." ..I know it's a real bizarre flex to post a bible quote, but it seems to fit in this instance.
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B.G. James - Sun, 12 May 2019 11:25:42 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6231512 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231441
> I really hate the term "E-drone"
Blame /asp/ for using and abusing the term and subsequently cross posting it to here. We had our own term before, Stamford Wives, not this shit.
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ODB - Sun, 12 May 2019 11:34:43 EST ID:joqnXjtm No.6231513 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230335
I still believe cancelling WCW was a huge mistake for Time Warner.
Since then TBS and TNT were virtually irrelevant. Now I hope they will make a mark.
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Masa Takanashi - Sun, 12 May 2019 11:42:38 EST ID:hpDt2BA/ No.6231520 Ignore Report Reply
Embarrassing company, cant wait for them to fail.

We could be watching omega vs Bryan right now, instead we get this meme promotion sucking up talent for no reason.

Let's face it, NXT is the best wrestling product we've ever seen, the shit these retards put out wont come close
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Chyna - Sun, 12 May 2019 11:54:27 EST ID:dYhrmb6W No.6231522 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231513
TBS and TNT were never relevant. Outside of some sports coverage on TNT, if you weren't a WCW fan, TBS and TNT were just channels that showed nothing but shitty sitcom reruns and movies.
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Kurt Angle - Sun, 12 May 2019 12:17:16 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.6231524 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6231441
Well, they are WWE fans. You cannot be right in the head to be a WWE fan at this point in time.

There's having a different taste, different opinion, and there's being a drooling retard. Being a WWE fan isn't having a different taste, it's being a drooling retard.
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Zach Gowen - Sun, 12 May 2019 12:22:15 EST ID:Mukenz+o No.6231526 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6231522
>TBS and TNT were never relevant
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Tony Chimel - Sun, 12 May 2019 12:31:52 EST ID:M4Mc0P7O No.6231528 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6231522
>TBS and TNT were never relevant.

I can smell Similac coming off of this statement. People who grew up before cable expanded to a jillion channels can vouch for the relevance of each. TBS going national when it did and paving the way for Turner to debut CNN, TNT, and TCM and popularize cable itself make it not just relevant, but historically significant.

And while TNT did show a lot of movies and probably still does, they used to present the shitty ones brilliantly.
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Shark Girl - Sun, 12 May 2019 12:46:34 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6231531 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231125
>If WWE wasn't dragging everything else down, we'd be in a boom time.
This is why I hope AEW doesn't forget its indie roots.

Recent fuss over contracts aside, I'm encouraged by what I see. AEW affiliated guys showing up to indies to further their angles and hype up DON. Or just showing up to wrestle like SCU at Beyond's Uncharted Territory or Northeast Wrestling. If you have a promotion on TV, signing guys to contracts where your bookings take priority makes sense. But I hope they don't pull an ROH and not let guys wrestle on other shows just because they're under contract.

The only time I got to see the Bucks and Marty live was a Northeast Wrestling Wrestling Under the Stars show. They were under an ROH contract at the time and showed up to walk into the crowd, promote All In and hype up the show. They seemed a bit miffed about not wrestling and the whole thing was filler, but they did what they could to get the crowd hyped up. A prior show had Cody be the NEW champ but be unable to show up to the biggest show of the year for them because ROH had a ballpark show in the NYC area on the same day that was completely inconsequential.

I'm glad NEW is near me since they seem to have a good relationship with Cody and the Bucks who were pivotal in talking Kenny Omega into working the Poughkeepsie show against Fenix. And you have all these indies that hype up guys like MJF, etc, as AEW guys. And for the bigger indies with an established regional presence, like NEW, AEW can come in work with said local promoters if they're unsure about how they will do in an unproven market. Every bit of promotion is good. AEW is the talk of the wrestling bubble, but a lot of casual fans and families go to local shows and any bit of exposure and name recognition is good. There's a potential audience out there that has no awareness of AEW but if they like someone they see at a local show, they'll be more likely to tune in.

The only guys announced for the main Wrestling Under the Stars show this year are Penta and Fenix. I doubt they'll be the last AEW guys announced and if I were AEW and NEW I'd be making a big effort to make it a co-branded show this year since the Dutchess Stadium show always does really well for an indie that doesn't get a lot of internet buzz and it'll be a good entry into the Northeast market. Do what Impact does and team up with local indies. You scout talent, get into new areas and make new fans.

MLW has also proven themselves willing to work with others. Impact was ahead of the curve teaming with local indies for house shows. I feel like the big question mark here is ROH. They've shown themselves to be less willing to play ball thanks to Sinclair management. We could have a modern equivalent of the territories, or the closest you could get to it these days, but that spirit of cooperation and talent exchange has been bred out of the wrestling industry for decades with everyone trying to hoard as much of the tiny sandbox they can grab for themselves.

>>6231512
I swear I remember e-drone being a thing long before /asp/ came into existence or I have some weird Mandela Effect shit going on.
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Shark Girl - Sun, 12 May 2019 12:54:50 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6231532 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231522
And USA, UPN, MyTV etc. were relevant? Hell you could say Spike was, but for a long time before UFC became a hit on there it was looked at as a trashy channel for the lowest common denominator.
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CRAPCOM !SNGayGTIcE - Sun, 12 May 2019 13:13:16 EST ID:oBoI/UZ6 No.6231534 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231532
USA in fits and starts was relevant outside of wrestling. Notably, the period when WWF/E bailed to TNN/Spike, they eventually put together a roster of good shows, only for them not bothering to follow up when all of them ran their courses, since they had WWE again.
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Crowbar - Sun, 12 May 2019 14:09:03 EST ID:jMLd+XDB No.6231547 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231157
Brian Dixon might have something to say about them using that name.
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B.G. James - Sun, 12 May 2019 14:47:21 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6231557 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231157
They really should have avoided putting Elite in it but hey this is a promotion that revolves around those guys and they even managed to con themselves into management positions. Making AEW all about The Elite is one low point of the company.
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Shark Girl - Sun, 12 May 2019 18:47:04 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6231627 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231557
I disagree. I think the name was one of their biggest strokes of genius.

Not only capitalizing on The Elite as a known wrestling brand but if someone doesn't know The Elite as a wrestling group, the name tells you up front that there's a priority on quality wrestling. It's making a mission statement in the name and it projects an attitude of "all killer, no filler."
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Danshoku Dino - Sun, 12 May 2019 19:01:49 EST ID:DpmzHgn8 No.6231632 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6231627
Towing that company line pretty hard, aren't you?
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Leilani Kai - Sun, 12 May 2019 19:08:50 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6231635 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231557
the low point of the company was announcing healthcare but then walking it back to mean only for the execs not the wrestlers.

then announcing equal pay for men and women..but then only relative to the place on the card, which is the same as any other promotion
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Mitsuharu Misawa - Sun, 12 May 2019 19:12:31 EST ID:pFQI59uO No.6231636 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6231635
oh man, you mean that they're not so different and its run by carnies?

what are the odds?
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Bastion Booger - Sun, 12 May 2019 19:13:41 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6231637 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231632
What part of that post was incorrect?
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Crowbar - Sun, 12 May 2019 19:14:01 EST ID:jMLd+XDB No.6231638 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231632
Mind if I ask why you posted that webm ?
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Sun, 12 May 2019 19:14:05 EST ID: iLikEToleARn No.6231639 Report Reply
>>6231638
You posted on /wooo/.
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The Dog - Sun, 12 May 2019 19:16:42 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.6231641 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231522
>TBS and TNT were never relevant

this is a factually wrong statement
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Wendi Richter - Sun, 12 May 2019 19:37:08 EST ID:1WrpIZAB No.6231652 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231639
this
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Mitsuharu Misawa - Sun, 12 May 2019 19:39:06 EST ID:pFQI59uO No.6231654 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231639
so did you nj
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Meng - Sun, 12 May 2019 19:42:42 EST ID:eMPhJgum No.6231655 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231522
>TBS and TNT were just channels that showed nothing but shitty sitcom reruns and movies.
>not watching Mortal Kombat Conquest after Nitro
Shit was fun.
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Killer Kowalski - Sun, 12 May 2019 20:35:12 EST ID:ahB7O4lt No.6231687 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231654
NJ does it ironically
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 12 May 2019 20:36:48 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6231688 Report Reply
>>6231655
THEY ALSO SHOWED 2 STUPID DOGS!
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Killer Kowalski - Sun, 12 May 2019 20:46:15 EST ID:ahB7O4lt No.6231693 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231688
Not for nothing, but that show was the launchpad for Craig McCracken and Genndy Tartakovsky. Turner and Nickelodeon giving cartoons back to cartoonists gave us a generation of awesome cartoons and creators who're still churning out quality shows. TBS flipping Hanna-Barbera from a collection of dusty reruns into a hit factory and then turning all of that into two other networks is another feather in its cap for relevance.
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Dick Togo - Sun, 12 May 2019 20:51:40 EST ID:Ybchf0OF No.6231695 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231688

Different Turner owned channel.
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Killer Kowalski - Sun, 12 May 2019 20:54:06 EST ID:ahB7O4lt No.6231698 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6231695
>pic related
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Dick Togo - Sun, 12 May 2019 21:18:26 EST ID:Ybchf0OF No.6231701 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231698

I don't recall it being on TNT or TBS, just Cartoon Network. Granted I didn't get TBS or Cartoon Network until the mid '90s.
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Gorgeous George - Sun, 12 May 2019 21:22:01 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6231702 Ignore Report Reply
iirc TNT is who brought the world Russian Married With Children
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--BvEieWyXM
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Eddie Edwards - Sun, 12 May 2019 21:35:26 EST ID:eMPhJgum No.6231705 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231695
>>6231698
>>6231701
>originally ran from September 5, 1993 to May 15, 1995 on TBS
I learned something today.
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Alere Little Feather - Sun, 12 May 2019 21:41:32 EST ID:+W7UmRYg No.6231711 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231531
e-drone was being thrown around back when the future's wrestling community was a containment topic on aaa/sp/ergersergersergers
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Alere Little Feather - Sun, 12 May 2019 21:45:39 EST ID:+W7UmRYg No.6231712 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6231711
wow okay kirt settle down
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Arm Van Dam - Sun, 12 May 2019 22:16:33 EST ID:udjc2s5d No.6231722 Ignore Report Reply
I'm expecting an Inside the AEW show ala Inside the NBA
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Shayne Hawke - Sun, 12 May 2019 22:20:36 EST ID:L4YJHN0X No.6231725 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231522
>the SUPERSTATION was never relevant
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The Esperanza - Sun, 12 May 2019 22:24:06 EST ID:39gOkQg6 No.6231727 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6231722
Who's on the panel?
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Gorgeous George - Sun, 12 May 2019 22:24:19 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6231729 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231722
something like Informa might be interesting
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Starman - Sun, 12 May 2019 22:47:07 EST ID:jMLd+XDB No.6231741 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231727
Please God let Barkley be on the panel.
That dude is hilarious.
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Madison Eagles - Sun, 12 May 2019 23:01:51 EST ID:2oYJaLCh No.6231744 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231727
As a bong, I've always found it weird that American sports presenters are always dressed up like they're going to a wedding
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The Esperanza - Sun, 12 May 2019 23:12:09 EST ID:39gOkQg6 No.6231749 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6231744
I think you need to lay off the bong for a while, limey. Hosts and analysts the world over wear suits.
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Madison Eagles - Sun, 12 May 2019 23:36:19 EST ID:2oYJaLCh No.6231761 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6231749
That's Sky (owned by FOX/Comcast).

On the main TV channels (BBC/ITV) it's usually office clothes rather than father-of-the-bride clothes.
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Maryse - Sun, 12 May 2019 23:43:07 EST ID:x5obV3KK No.6231762 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231761
nobody show him don cherry
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Madison Eagles - Sun, 12 May 2019 23:48:02 EST ID:2oYJaLCh No.6231764 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6231762
That dude's clearly taking the piss out of the convention. Good for him!

"Want me in a suit, huh? Here's your fucking suit..."
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Perry Saturn - Sun, 12 May 2019 23:52:29 EST ID:DkZto2tl No.6231766 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231761
>"Brits don't wear suits on our sporty shows"
>Image of Brits wearing suits on sports show
>"That one doesn't count."

Every. Fucking. Time.
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Madison Eagles - Mon, 13 May 2019 00:00:52 EST ID:2oYJaLCh No.6231769 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231766
>the channel with 500k viewers, American owners and an Americanised presentation is representative of British TV
>the actual British channels with 10 million + viewers are not

Every. Fucking. Time.
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Homicide - Mon, 13 May 2019 00:25:05 EST ID:W97x76k4 No.6231778 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231764
too bad he isn't american otherwise you might have a point.
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Paul Bearer - Mon, 13 May 2019 00:28:24 EST ID:rO5GFjZG No.6231782 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231769
Jesus Christ, dude. You were wrong on the Internet. No one cares. Take your L like a man and stop detailing this thread.
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Shayne Hawke - Mon, 13 May 2019 00:30:34 EST ID:L4YJHN0X No.6231784 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231782
SKY is American broadcasting.
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Madison Eagles - Mon, 13 May 2019 00:42:48 EST ID:2oYJaLCh No.6231791 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231782
>oh shit, facts
>better just totally not derail the thread any further by making a post that is literally nothing but a self-declaration of my e-victory

3/4 No Yanodome
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Zelda The Brain - Mon, 13 May 2019 00:54:14 EST ID:V9v/7XnF No.6231794 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231764
he looks like a goddamn ice cream
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Madison Eagles - Mon, 13 May 2019 01:30:12 EST ID:2oYJaLCh No.6231808 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6231794
That settles it, then - Inside AEW is presented by pic related. Everybody's happy.
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Horace - Mon, 13 May 2019 10:14:48 EST ID:U9mzD+jL No.6231865 Ignore Report Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Dick the Bruiser - Mon, 13 May 2019 10:32:32 EST ID:3bWxQu1w No.6231868 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231766
>Every time
Dude, how often are you having discussions about suits in Sports TV?
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Ernie Ladd - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:03:59 EST ID:jerEN3xU No.6232735 Ignore Report Reply
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>Breaking News - @AEWrestling to air on @TNTDrama
https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1128631242927366145
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tHURTeen - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:12:40 EST ID:E1+Xybxh No.6232737 Ignore Report Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Anarquia - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:13:34 EST ID:FlxvzCy1 No.6232738 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232737
Oh, that's neat.
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Tsukasa Fujimoto - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:17:19 EST ID:l02S8x+3 No.6232739 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232737
"I'm not in the wrestling business, I'm in the entertainment business" - Vince
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Ultimate Spider Jr. - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:22:23 EST ID:eDnS1577 No.6232741 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232735

Non-American here. Is TNT and TNT Drama the same thing?
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John Bradshaw Layfield - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:28:45 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6232743 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232741
Yep, same channel as Nitro
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Christopher Nowinski - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:31:00 EST ID:t2gMQU9L No.6232745 Ignore Report Reply
Based t-shirt company.
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Kodama - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:31:12 EST ID:wfs/CPjL No.6232746 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232735
There should be a presentation at 10 AM EST, don't know if it's being streamed
I would hope it's at least filmed being how big this is for the wrestling world
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Slimjob_Dopamine - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:16:33 EST ID:lACh8D9o No.6232771 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230335
>Let us laugh /wooo/
You did it bro! Congrats!
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Wifebeater - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:15:47 EST ID:7CPytucq No.6232804 Ignore Report Reply
>>6230335
>AEW part of the Warner Universe
>Kenny Omega can now appear in Injustice
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Kenzo Suzuki - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:29:28 EST ID:zdK2uK8d No.6232809 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6232804
gtfo
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Matt Hardy - Wed, 15 May 2019 13:42:05 EST ID:nYZ8AKjd No.6232927 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6230563
>It's far more likely AEW lands on Audience network or whatever the streaming platform is, or a super late night spot if they're going to be on TBS or TNT. It's naive and incredibly wishful thinking to assume they're going to get a primetime, weekday spot on one of the 2 flagship networks.

Just wanted to point out you're a fucking contrarian retard and that you were wrong (which we already knew given that today's news leaked out over a month ago). Don't worry, I'm sure it'll end up on Audience or the fucking Game Show Network before long.

Pic related, it's you.
Warned
User has been warned
Warned by: Celt
Message: Tone it down. The image especially is so over the top.
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Savannah - Wed, 15 May 2019 15:05:45 EST ID:pSo2up5V No.6232976 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232927
Why are you so mad? We're all wrestling fans here pal
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Doink the Clown - Wed, 15 May 2019 15:14:29 EST ID:ClQfIV8t No.6232979 Ignore Report Reply
fuck all you pussies
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Pinkie Sanchez - Wed, 15 May 2019 17:52:20 EST ID:H9JiNy3d No.6233064 Ignore Report Reply
>>6231741
>TFW Charles Barkley manages a heel stable.
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Tito Santana - Wed, 15 May 2019 18:05:12 EST ID:jMLd+XDB No.6233076 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233064
>Barkley
>heel
Would never work, he's too likable.
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Kenny - Wed, 15 May 2019 18:09:11 EST ID:S+7IjDaG No.6233078 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233076
The only place where heel Barkley would work was VGCW.
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Terra Ryzin - Wed, 15 May 2019 18:50:45 EST ID:4ZbNJAFJ No.6233095 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233076

Yeah this is true. Even when like he called San Antonio women fat or roasts a dude for getting a 'triple single' it's too funny to actually get mad at because Chuck just leans into that side of his personality so much and so often that you can't do anything else but laugh
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Who - Wed, 15 May 2019 19:27:11 EST ID:LbXdfKj5 No.6233116 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6233078
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjHfa_gG3gM
>Barkley joining VGCW was 7 years ago
I can't believe I just got a rush of nostalgia from that
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Cyrus - Wed, 15 May 2019 22:08:40 EST ID:dYhrmb6W No.6233196 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232735
Excited, but still not getting my hopes up too much. The press release just says TNT is airing "AEW matches." For all we know, this could be a recap show of months old matches that airs at 11PM on a Saturday.

I hope I'm wrong obviously.
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Fixxxer - Wed, 15 May 2019 22:09:54 EST ID:IHKDJk18 No.6233197 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233196

It said it will air in primetime, so I doubt it will be a Saturday morning show
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Fixxxer - Wed, 15 May 2019 22:12:05 EST ID:IHKDJk18 No.6233199 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233197

Dammit, I meant Saturday afternoon, today is not a good day for my posting
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Jimmy Jacobs - Thu, 16 May 2019 02:09:35 EST ID:V9v/7XnF No.6233267 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233196
it literally says "live weekly matches in prime time"

Does that not indicate a weekly live show
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Crash Holly - Thu, 16 May 2019 05:19:11 EST ID:F6DYVawn No.6233300 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233267

The press release comes across as something written by someone who isn’t super familiar with wrestling. They refer to AEW as a ‘league’ which is something only a non-fan would say. As far as I’m concerned ‘weekly live matches’ means a typical wrestling program.
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Mean Smark Callous !DCxC2Z8fnY - Thu, 16 May 2019 06:42:21 EST ID:mHVC6D8M No.6233324 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233196
>>6233267
>>6233300

I'd like to think they're wording it the way they are just simply to drive home the fact that the product they will present will be different than WWE. It won't be "sports entertainment".

No doubt they're also leaving things open-ended until after at least Double Or Nothing to iron out any bugs in their presentation.
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Masahiro Chono - Thu, 16 May 2019 14:45:01 EST ID:jMLd+XDB No.6233532 Ignore Report Reply
I still don't understand why the existence of AEW makes certain types of "wrestling fans" so mad and rooting for it to fail.
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Asya - Thu, 16 May 2019 14:52:18 EST ID:GE+2ucEB No.6233535 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6230356
>>6230341

I'M BACK IN THE WRASSLIN BUSINESS VINCE
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Machete - Thu, 16 May 2019 15:06:08 EST ID:0g8+IxW/ No.6233544 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233532
Contrarian culture. It's more fun to tell people they're shit and everything they like is shit than to actually like things. How many youtubers actually like things? Hell, Jim Sterling is quite vocal about his positive videos getting half the views of negative ones.
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Jim Powers - Thu, 16 May 2019 15:23:07 EST ID:NAPf/Sy3 No.6233553 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6230371
If this means the return of
>BILLIONAIRE TED’S WAR ROOM
I’m going to shit myself crazy. Question is who’s in the war room with him today?

>The American Blunder
>The Young stallions
>Omega Man (some dude in a Mega Man helmet)
>Good Ol’ JR (played by Vince himself, pic related)
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Chessman - Thu, 16 May 2019 15:24:31 EST ID:y+PUkOMt No.6233554 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6233553
tbh, im all for cody and the bucks being buried

but only if they bring in the original young stallions to play their part
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Jim Powers - Thu, 16 May 2019 16:04:03 EST ID:NAPf/Sy3 No.6233568 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233554
It was Young stallion S but the /pol/ buzzword filter kicked in
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Chessman - Thu, 16 May 2019 16:06:04 EST ID:y+PUkOMt No.6233569 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233568
>Jim Powers RNG



my point still stands though
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Jim Powers - Thu, 16 May 2019 16:13:13 EST ID:NAPf/Sy3 No.6233570 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233569
Alright but you do realize that even though the intent of the segments is to bury the wrestlers being parodied, it will actually have the opposite effect and make Vince and Trips look like salty exes?

Cause that’s exactly how it went down originally 25 years ago.
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Chessman - Thu, 16 May 2019 16:17:32 EST ID:y+PUkOMt No.6233573 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6233570
I remember the WRASSLIN WAR ROOM and how retarded it was

Worse part they had the huckster and nacho man actually wrestle at wrestlemania

fucking dreadful
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Bad News Brown - Thu, 16 May 2019 16:24:36 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.6233575 Ignore Report Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsr9Nd4HU_8
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Cyrus - Thu, 16 May 2019 19:32:25 EST ID:dYhrmb6W No.6233672 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233553
Ted Turner hasn't been involved in the day to day operations of Turner Networks for like 20 years. That's why WCW got canned in the first place.
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Brian Pillman - Thu, 16 May 2019 19:51:25 EST ID:nYZ8AKjd No.6233681 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233300
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Brian Pillman - Thu, 16 May 2019 19:55:12 EST ID:nYZ8AKjd No.6233685 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233267
>>6233300

Stop that. Both of you. "Weekly live matches" means "weekly live matches." Knock off the the willful ignorance and the actuallys. You're fine lads, I'm sure, but this is not behavior to be proud of.
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Richie Steamboat - Thu, 16 May 2019 22:07:42 EST ID:1H57plKr No.6233779 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233672
Do you honestly think Vince cares
Do you honestly don't think Vince curses Ted's devious machinations whenever he stubs his toe
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Johnny C. - Thu, 16 May 2019 22:42:48 EST ID:2oYJaLCh No.6233804 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6233779
There's a 95% chance that this happened when Vince heard the news.

TUUUUUUURRRRNNNNEEERRRR
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Blue Panther - Thu, 16 May 2019 23:34:13 EST ID:Zx++ssT/ No.6233851 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233779
Even if he doesn't, it's way funnier to think he does.
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Johnny C. - Fri, 17 May 2019 00:17:35 EST ID:2oYJaLCh No.6233868 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6233804
>I realised hours after posting this that AEW is owned and run by the Khan family
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Ares - Fri, 17 May 2019 00:43:15 EST ID:mk3Q2vvE No.6233873 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233868
you dun goofed


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