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Tom Magee Ignore Report Reply
Sunny - Mon, 13 May 2019 23:43:01 EST ID:3pYi3crl No.6232242
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After watching that match, I think it’s a crime we didn’t get a Magee run. He was rusty, yes but he would’ve fit well in Luger’s spot as a muscle-headed midcarder. Warrior got by with much less.

Vince and WWF dropped the ball on this dude. Just my humble opinion.
Barbarian - Mon, 13 May 2019 23:49:36 EST ID:jMLd+XDB No.6232246 Ignore Report Reply
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Dude Love - Mon, 13 May 2019 23:52:10 EST ID:kxp48ub+ No.6232247 Ignore Report Reply
I do wonder how much of it was he was the shits after the Bret match or if the other muscleheads politicked him out.
Mass Transit - Mon, 13 May 2019 23:56:17 EST ID:mk3Q2vvE No.6232249 Ignore Report Reply
Yeah he had a good body and a great mane. Just put him in programs with people who can work around him, you know?
Davey Richards - Tue, 14 May 2019 00:02:07 EST ID:L4YJHN0X No.6232253 Ignore Report Reply
>a Bret carryjob means he's not the shits

It's like none of you have read the part of his book discussing this
The Mantaur - Tue, 14 May 2019 00:05:07 EST ID:2pBC4QCO No.6232254 Ignore Report Reply
Yeah it's weird, I understand he was a bad worker, but it's not like Vince ever cared about workrate anyway. I guess it has more to do with him being a black hole of charisma? Say what you want about Warrior but his insane rambling promos were fucking great. Luger also had charisma, but not as a babyface american hero.
Sunny - Tue, 14 May 2019 00:06:53 EST ID:3pYi3crl No.6232255 Ignore Report Reply
Again, going back to Warrior as an example. When put with Rude, Savage, Dibiase, he looked half decent. Against other guys, not so much. Magee needed some time to season, and it’s a shame bro will always be a “what if”.

Fuck it, I want Magee in the jjsb clusterfuck next year
Drew McIntyre - Tue, 14 May 2019 00:48:21 EST ID:P2NL5Msz No.6232264 Ignore Report Reply
where can I watch it?
Kevin Sullivan - Tue, 14 May 2019 00:59:29 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.6232266 Ignore Report Reply
He had a lot of potential, he just needed to get the fundamentals down.
Melina - Tue, 14 May 2019 01:10:29 EST ID:Pg7lBld+ No.6232272 Ignore Report Reply
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Miss Elizabeth - Tue, 14 May 2019 01:27:03 EST ID:K20kw6yS No.6232275 Ignore Report Reply
>that perfect timing of the spotlight
Kagetsu - Tue, 14 May 2019 01:39:27 EST ID:K+/bPeBq No.6232278 Ignore Report Reply
>ITT: People haven't heard the stories of what a sub-Warrior useless immobile bodybuilder Magee was, as reported by multiple sources
>Or seen any of his other matches against competent workers that just aren't Bret
You couldn't have the guy wrestle Bret every night. At a certain point he'd need to squash some jobbers without looking like ass. If anything, that match just goes to show how good Bret was at carrying people. Choshu couldn't do it. DiBiase couldn't do it. Arn fucking Anderson couldn't do it.

Magee was useless and we're all better off without him.
Dustin Diamond - Tue, 14 May 2019 09:18:25 EST ID:09aJguhq No.6232312 Ignore Report Reply
Nobody with a name like Tom Magee was going to be a top star
Daizee Haze - Tue, 14 May 2019 10:03:04 EST ID:VeFB8Iq+ No.6232321 Ignore Report Reply
Dude, look at the fucking guy and look at how he can flip.
I legit wouldn't have given a fuck if he couldn't wrestle, I would have still pushed him. It's like Strowman, you don't often get people that look the way Strowman does, and even though he was terrible when he started, they never gave up on him and he became perfectly acceptable. If they gave Tom that much time, I'm sure that in time Tom would have had the same level of success.
Adam Cole - Tue, 14 May 2019 10:13:53 EST ID:mco52Dzj No.6232322 Ignore Report Reply
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The important thing in this story is the lost match and what a great worker Bret was.

Not Tom Magee.
The Godfather - Tue, 14 May 2019 10:20:19 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6232324 Ignore Report Reply
>I legit wouldn't have given a fuck if he couldn't wrestle
so what?
Even Hulk Hogan with his limited move set was a capable worker.

>if they gave Tom that much time
there wasn't a need to, wrestlers back then weren't micromanaged by Vince regarding the ring work. It was more necessary to be a capable worker (this goes beyond MOVEZ, btw) and Tom wasn't that. You are literally being a mark right now, not realizing how much Bret carried the guy.
Kevin Nash - Tue, 14 May 2019 10:22:40 EST ID:ivPqgwLn No.6232325 Ignore Report Reply
He probably could've been developed into something decent given some time and patience but "slowly developing guys over time" wasn't really something Vince went for back in the day
Doink the Clown - Tue, 14 May 2019 10:31:15 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6232326 Ignore Report Reply
Based on what, exactly? The guy wrestled for 5 years and was trained by Stu Hart. If he didn't get it by then, he wasn't getting it.
Nick Patrick - Tue, 14 May 2019 10:47:56 EST ID:1x1xN/No No.6232328 Ignore Report Reply

Vince also didn’t need to develop people, since most of his roster consisted of talented guys who worked in the upper card of other companies.

As much as Vince likes body guys, he was quick to give up on muscle bound meatheads if they were total shitters.
Drew McIntyre - Tue, 14 May 2019 11:00:29 EST ID:P2NL5Msz No.6232333 Ignore Report Reply
Link to the match?
Nick Patrick - Tue, 14 May 2019 11:03:30 EST ID:1x1xN/No No.6232336 Ignore Report Reply

I got you.

C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 14 May 2019 11:39:28 EST ID:kd7kkcB2 No.6232350 Ignore Report Reply
Duke Droese - Tue, 14 May 2019 11:40:21 EST ID:iTGGEDAh No.6232351 Ignore Report Reply
I have never seen a guy that muscled do a leap frog with such ease
The Boogeyman - Tue, 14 May 2019 12:12:23 EST ID:FT7fbyfG No.6232359 Ignore Report Reply
Oh yeah. This myth that McGee totally sucked, well, really sucks. I don't even feel anything strong for this guy but that McGee/Bret Hart story which I first read of wrestlecrap years ago always sounded bullshit to me.

The real reason he didn't get pushed by Vince in THAT era of all eras is probably more sinister and political.

Obviously needed a better stage name though.
Scott Lost - Tue, 14 May 2019 12:16:14 EST ID:MDs6P3AS No.6232361 Ignore Report Reply
They branded him MegaMan, before the first game ever came out I think
Pretty easy to market that.
Gerald Brisco - Tue, 14 May 2019 12:25:34 EST ID:g3epVLqu No.6232363 Ignore Report Reply
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>tfw you’ll never experience the Mega Man Tom Magee era
>tfw you’ll never get Tom Magee bodyslamming Yokozuna
>tfw you’ll never get Hogan vs Magee at Wrestlemania
>tfw you’ll never get a mid 90s Japan run

It hurts.
The Boogeyman - Tue, 14 May 2019 12:31:07 EST ID:FT7fbyfG No.6232364 Ignore Report Reply
It really is ridiculous how plausible that all seems.
Elektra - Tue, 14 May 2019 14:12:40 EST ID:0g8+IxW/ No.6232406 Ignore Report Reply
To be fair, Bret even worked the office into thinking Magee was good.
Yuji Nagata - Tue, 14 May 2019 15:07:23 EST ID:qZ3kVc2f No.6232432 Ignore Report Reply
after watching his match with DiBiase and Anderson, he wasn't the greatest, but there have been far far worse that stepped onto WWF and WCW TV of that era. If they would have stopped looking at him like the second coming, and just stuck him in there with solid guys to help him, he could have been a solid midcard champion. Guys like Santana, Perfect, Martel, Hart, DiBiase, probably even Michaels could have helped him put on decent matches.
Johnny the Bull - Tue, 14 May 2019 21:51:42 EST ID:L4YJHN0X No.6232614 Ignore Report Reply
>list a bunch of guys way, way better than Magee

Why don't we just have them as midcard champions then?

The story is from Bret's autobio you dumb shit
Rhaka Khan - Wed, 15 May 2019 03:08:04 EST ID:RSUyI7L3 No.6232702 Ignore Report Reply
Remember that time in like 05 where Angle carried Jannetty to such a good match they hired him?
Little Egypt - Wed, 15 May 2019 03:47:09 EST ID:3pYi3crl No.6232707 Ignore Report Reply
I’d go out in a limb and say Jannetty is decent if given proper time to produce a match. Angle definitely helps, but I think Jannetty defeats his own stereotype when it comes to in-ring action.
Sumie Sakai - Wed, 15 May 2019 04:23:22 EST ID:qZ3kVc2f No.6232715 Ignore Report Reply
You can. He had a look, and while it was just "the look" and not the talent, that was pretty common back then. But I'm saying that they could have done something with him, and while he wasn't the next Hulk Hogan, they could have done something with the guy instead of waste his time.
A.J. Styles - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:51:11 EST ID:tW9gWUtv No.6232792 Ignore Report Reply
>Vince never changes names
Stevie Richards - Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:18 EST ID:jEGuiRVR No.6232991 Ignore Report Reply
why does everyone say he was a bad worker when Dave said '"He was the greatest combination of strength and agility the business had ever seen' before he had the match with Bret>
Joker - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:32:35 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6233014 Ignore Report Reply
Because there's way more to being a good worker than strength and agility.
Tito Santana - Wed, 15 May 2019 17:55:14 EST ID:jMLd+XDB No.6233067 Ignore Report Reply
Because " the greatest combination of strength and agility the business had ever seen" =/= being a good worker.
Kenny - Wed, 15 May 2019 19:24:04 EST ID:S+7IjDaG No.6233111 Ignore Report Reply
What would you guys do if you were the head booker and got Tom Magee?
Godiva - Wed, 15 May 2019 19:26:37 EST ID:XvPtL64T No.6233115 Ignore Report Reply
enhancement talent
Tito Santana - Wed, 15 May 2019 19:34:38 EST ID:jMLd+XDB No.6233124 Ignore Report Reply
Put him in a match with Bret Hart and see what he can do.
Chase Owens - Wed, 15 May 2019 20:30:30 EST ID:4YI9XAj5 No.6233154 Ignore Report Reply
Either would’ve put him with a workhorse partner and and made him the hot tag, or worked him off tv, and just pushed him as a power guy.
Wendi Richter - Wed, 15 May 2019 22:52:05 EST ID:C3pnVnoF No.6233214 Ignore Report Reply

Train him
Becky Bayless - Wed, 15 May 2019 22:58:23 EST ID:EvYXc0Fp No.6233217 Ignore Report Reply
here is the correct answer

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