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WRESTLING IS BACK ON TNT Report Reply
The Big Show - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:17:45 EST ID:N0gMSQCl No.6232740
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>https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1128631242927366145
>https://twitter.com/tntdrama/status/1128632147248668673

AEW CONFIRMED FOR TNT!

A NEW DAWN IS EMERGING
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The People - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:31:19 EST ID:DIKFKCIe No.6232747 Ignore Report Reply
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God I hope they bring Schiavone in for commentary. I wouldn't even care if his commentary is dogshit these days, I just wanna hear a warm welcome week by week.
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ChampGold !!pCAVcfP9 - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:40:24 EST ID:fTttPdoU No.6232749 Ignore Report Reply
If they don't do their first show in the Mall of America then they fucked up
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Greg Gagne - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:40:59 EST ID:uXbGQaAl No.6232750 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6232740
TNT is straight up Charmed/Supernatural it seems 20 hours a day
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British Bulldog - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:43:29 EST ID:K/HyVPyy No.6232751 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232740
Damn they actually got a weekly TV deal, things are gonna get interesting.
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MECHA Mummy - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:43:34 EST ID:9dfgzIt+ No.6232752 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232750
Dont forget Major Crimes or The Closer
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:43:37 EST ID: iLikEToleARn No.6232753 Report Reply
>>6232752
Plus let's not forget pic related.
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John Bradshaw Layfield - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:49:13 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6232754 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232753
NJ you need to post a pic when you say that, you dipshit robot
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:49:17 EST ID: iLikEToleARn No.6232755 Report Reply
>>6232754
Has nothing to say "#MemeDayNightRaw"?.
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:56:46 EST ID:YILbGvXF No.6232756 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232754
>talking to Netjester like that
awful risky, NJ has quite the bodycount
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The People - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:59:00 EST ID:DIKFKCIe No.6232757 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232755
Big Match Netjester putting memelords in their place.
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Justin Gabriel - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:01:26 EST ID:G0aUFK+2 No.6232759 Ignore Report Reply
I'm in the rasslin' business!!
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Bubba Ray Dudley - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:03:58 EST ID:KF0t5CEx No.6232760 Ignore Report Reply
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>it's real
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Mark Haskins - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:05:46 EST ID:6ob5T6fy No.6232761 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232747
His work in MLW is unironically better than what JR is doing now.
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Obariyon - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:07:34 EST ID:yD6jMNCp No.6232763 Ignore Report Reply
Thank you uncle Ted
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Zardoz - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:09:53 EST ID:rxIFjo4g No.6232765 Ignore Report Reply
This should be fun.

I just hope I don't have to watch Being The Elite to know what's going on.
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:12:48 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232767 Ignore Report Reply
couple things from the press release:

>Double or Nothing is streaming on B/R Live
(no mention of traditional PPV broadcast yet)

>the pre show is streaming on AEW & WarnerMedia social channels

>Jungle Boy, Jimmy Havoc and Billy Gunn are in the battle royal
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Joel Gertner - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:13:32 EST ID:2oYJaLCh No.6232768 Ignore Report Reply
I can't stand the Young Bucks. I'm not really a fan of Omega. Cody Rhodes a shit.

But godspeed to those motherfuckers if they really can take on Vince.
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Lauren Brooke - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:13:53 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6232769 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232765
I feel like BTE would just turn into a behind the scenes show like it was originally meant to be with no on air acknowledgement
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:16:29 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232770 Ignore Report Reply
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>that smirk
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:17:21 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232772 Ignore Report Reply
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kek
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Brendan Michael Thomas - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:17:39 EST ID:V9v/7XnF No.6232773 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6232755
scolding
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Mark Madden - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:21:31 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.6232775 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232772
Lmao
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Kevin Nash - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:23:41 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6232776 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232740
> The following press release was issued by WarnerMedia and All Elite Wrestling this morning, confirming they would be partnering to bring the promotion to TNT “later this year” and that WarnerMedia’s Bleacher Report Live platform would be carrying the 5/25 Double or Nothing PPV:

> WarnerMedia Partners with All Elite Wrestling for Multi- Platform Launch of Groundbreaking New Wrestling League - TNT to Air Weekly Matches Later This Year - Inaugural May 25 Event Available on B/R Live and via Pay-Per-View - AEW to Introduce a New Generation of Diverse Wrestlers and Give Fans a New Wrestling Experience for the First Time in 20 Years

> May 15, 2019 – WarnerMedia announced today that it is partnering with All Elite Wrestling (AEW), the new professional wrestling promotion featuring a world-class roster of diverse male and female wrestlers, giving fans a new wrestling experience for the first time in 20 years. WarnerMedia and AEW together will build this powerhouse sporting league from the ground up and will begin airing weekly matches later this year. With this league, AEW is introducing a new generation of wrestlers to fans, offering fun, gripping and authentic athletic matches that will make wrestling more accessible to a broad audience. WarnerMedia will utilize its position as a next-generation global media company to build this league into a global pro-wrestling franchise.

> Founded by President and CEO Tony Khan, AEW is headlined by members of The Elite, which includes all-star wrestlers The Young Bucks (Matt & Nick Jackson), Cody and Brandi Rhodes, Kenny Omega, and Hangman Page, and a roster that includes the legendary Chris Jericho. Omega, Cody and The Young Bucks also serve as executive vice presidents of the company in addition to in-ring talent, and Brandi Rhodes also serves as Chief Brand Officer.

> Later this year, WarnerMedia will provide exclusive multi-platform access for fans to watch AEW events, airing live weekly matches on TNT in prime time, as well as streaming them through WarnerMedia’s B/R Live and on pay-per-view. A leading digital sports enterprise, B/R Live’s high fan engagement will provide an invaluable opportunity to build AEW’s audience.

> “All Elite Wrestling is a talent-forward, fan-first league whose inclusive approach to creating high-quality athletic wrestling competitions is already making waves with fans and attracting top-tier wrestlers,” said Michael Quigley, executive vice president, commercial operations, content strategy and monetization, TBS and TNT. “It is high-adrenaline, gripping entertainment and we can’t wait to bring it to fans everywhere with this game-changing new business.”

> “Wrestling fans have wanted – and needed – something different, authentic and better for far too long,” said Tony Khan, President and CEO of AEW. “AEW is answering the call. AEW is about more than wrestling. It’s about a movement fueled by wrestling fans who have been underserved and perhaps even disappointed by what the industry has produced in recent years. AEW is rising to the occasion with DOUBLE OR NOTHING and today taking it a step further by partnering with WarnerMedia, which is as committed as we are to making wrestling fans the one and only priority. With WarnerMedia, AEW is poised globally to redefine wrestling as we know it today.”

> Focused on producing fast-paced, high-impact competitions, AEW offers fans less scripted, soapy drama, and more athleticism and real sports analytics, bringing a legitimacy to wrestling that it has not previously had. Wrestlers will also be given more freedom to explore their characters and highlight their athletic abilities. Introducing statistics to wrestling for the first time ever, AEW will raise the stakes for its matches and deepen fan engagement by tracking each competitor’s wins and losses as the wrestlers pursue championships, analyzing their moves, assessing damage to their opponents, and providing insights into their winning streaks.

> B/R Live will serve as the exclusive digital streaming partner in the United States for AEW’s inaugural event, DOUBLE OR NOTHING, on Saturday, May 25, at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. DOUBLE OR NOTHING, which sold out in under 30 minutes, features an exhilarating card including the headline clash between Kenny Omega and Chris Jericho; Cody taking on his brother Dustin Rhodes; The Young Bucks battling the Lucha Bros for the AAA World Tag Team Championship; Hangman Adam Page clashing with PAC; and Britt Baker, Nyla Rose and Kylie Rae competing in a three-way match.

> Additionally, the hour-long live pre-show special THE BUY-IN will stream on WarnerMedia and AEW’s social channels. BUY-IN includes the first ever “Casino (Battle) Royale,” which will see 21 competitors including Jimmy Havoc, Billy Gunn, MJF and Jungle Boy entering the ring in waves of five wrestlers every three minutes followed by one final entrant, lucky number 21, all fighting it out in the ring until there is one winner, whose reward will be a future title shot against the first ever AEW World Champion.

> The media rights deal was negotiated by Khan and Bernie Cahill, co-founder of Activist Artists Management, LLC, an entity in which Khan is also an investor and partner.
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RegalMachine RGM-79 !Ro1w0thJao - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:27:38 EST ID:9+kvF4WR No.6232778 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6232740
>Diverse wrestlers
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StannisTheMannis !/R33EULsds - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:28:00 EST ID:yZNIlRSg No.6232779 Ignore Report Reply
What a day to be alive.
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John Cena - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:29:40 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6232780 Ignore Report Reply
I know they won't but they should run against Raw.
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Krazy K - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:33:27 EST ID:vDYQn59O No.6232781 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232740

Wow.
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Little Egypt - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:39:05 EST ID:3pYi3crl No.6232783 Ignore Report Reply
It’s a long shot but I hope Shiavone and Bischoff are brought back in some capacity, maybe as producers.
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The Machine - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:45:17 EST ID:s2JxQMZc No.6232784 Ignore Report Reply
Based Senile Billionaire Ted.
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RegalMachine RGM-79 !Ro1w0thJao - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:46:11 EST ID:9+kvF4WR No.6232785 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6232780
Yeah, because that worked out great for that one company.
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:46:16 EST ID:N0gMSQCl No.6232786 Report Reply
>>6232783
>Bischoff

PLEASE NO.
Jesus Christ, Bischoff's run at TNA was enough Bischoff in charge to last us until 2035.
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Mean Smark Callous !DCxC2Z8fnY - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:46:19 EST ID:xTYFPCcM No.6232787 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232740

I find it so poetic that Dusty Rhodes was a key player within WCW for so many years, and now his son (or sons, since I assume Dustin will work behind the scenes as well) is a key player of the new company debuting on the very same network.
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RegalMachine RGM-79 !Ro1w0thJao - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:48:48 EST ID:9+kvF4WR No.6232791 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232784
You mean based Billionaire Khan and son.
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Low Ki - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:55:37 EST ID:EvYXc0Fp No.6232795 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232783
>Bischoff

stop that
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RegalMachine RGM-79 !Ro1w0thJao - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:55:47 EST ID:9+kvF4WR No.6232796 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232765
BTE is a shitposting series for fun and promoting the boys and girls not in the spot light.
They have an official behind the scenes channel on Youtube but it's boring putting over the company and new signees worked shoot promos.
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Bubba Ray Dudley - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:01:49 EST ID:KF0t5CEx No.6232799 Ignore Report Reply
I wish I could see Vince's face right now.
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Lash LeRoux - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:04:21 EST ID:kxp48ub+ No.6232800 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232749
This
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Luna Vachon - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:07:37 EST ID:BLsuG4IT No.6232801 Ignore Report Reply
Thank goodness! This'll be amazing. As good as IMPACT! has been, surprisingly, (and I used to be a LOLTNA-er), their production value and overall "feel" needs work.

This is giant news. A weekly pro wrestling show featuring Kenny Omega et. al, in the states, at appropriate, available US TV times. I really hope they do well so we can see an NJPW partnership in some sorts. Rooting for them.
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Wifebeater - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:10:27 EST ID:7CPytucq No.6232802 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232799
Watch this space they're gonna end the brand split, probably bring back that Raw Supershow concept

I mean they're already in full panic mode changing the rules week to week, it's only gonna get dumber.

Whoever said Vince does his best booking when his back's against the wall, nah, these past few weeks have been him with his back against the wall and it just gets more shit
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John Cena - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:13:40 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6232803 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232785
They got a million viewers didn't they? Are AEW thinking that if they run against RAW, no one will watch them? if so, what's the point?
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Bubba Ray Dudley - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:17:02 EST ID:KF0t5CEx No.6232805 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232803
They should focus on building their own brand and identity first and not worry about what WWE is doing. This was Impact's biggest mistake. The best way AEW can stick to Vince is by ignoring WWE and doing their own thing AND be successful at it.
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John Cena - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:22:05 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6232807 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232805
>They should focus on building their own brand and identity first and not worry about what WWE is doing

they are literally competition to WWE whatever night they are on. People have a finite number of hours to watch tv a week, and AEW have to know that the wrestling audience is itself finite.

Even if they're not going to go live against RAW, they should schedule a replay at the same time, and I wouldn't be surprised if it did good numbers from the people who have a monday wrestling routine but are about to switch off WWE because it's so terrible
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Kevin Nash - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:27:58 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6232808 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232740
> Plenty of other companies would have bitten at the chance to get on TNT for many years
> It goes to a barely established circlejerk promotion that doesn't want to bring back lapsed fans, only people that like their Elite clique
And this is why pro wrestling is dead...not just because WWE ran it into the ground, but companies like All Embarrassment Wrestling.
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Lanny Poffo - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:32:06 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6232810 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232808
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Veronica - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:35:07 EST ID:cxyU7ex5 No.6232813 Ignore Report Reply
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HOLY FUCK THEY SIGNED SHAQ
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:36:48 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232815 Ignore Report Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Sho Funaki - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:39:08 EST ID:iLe2GkB4 No.6232816 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232813
based
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Jinsei Shinzaki - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:39:16 EST ID:DQyWf1wt No.6232817 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6232813
>Kazaam vs CIMA
yes, please
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:41:13 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232818 Ignore Report Reply
fyi, this is FrontRowBrian, the MMA reporter that first broke the news about AEW being announced at upfronts:

>TNT could be paying AEW a small rights fee, use of their tv production personel, split on the advertising &marketing support across the ATT family of brands .. that’s not a time buy by definition but it’s sort of like a time buy. Meaning not a lot of cash actually changes hands

>It’s going to come down to the Khan family’s own conviction rating of the venture. They need to believe in this to the bitter end. Pick a figure and be willing to burn to that point. This deal gets them off the ground. That’s it. It’s not a destination.

>If you’re the guy pushing this deal through at WarnerMedia, you have to sell it internally first. The guy was asked “what’s their track record?” “What content have they produced?” “What metrics do they have?”. AEW has nothing except merch and tickets ...

>And that’s a great start but selling tickets, shirts and posting video blogs on YouTube doesn’t mean you’re a content creating machine that is required to produce 50 first run cable originals per year. There’s huge risk on Warnermedia’s side on this.

>The biz plan for pro wrestling is always WWE has this market cap and we can take x% within 5 years and this y% in 10 years. Looks great on PowerPoint. Tougher in actuality. Stealing market share will be measured in basis points. Not full percentage points. Very tough road.

>But when you’re a billionaire and looking for untapped opportunities in content creation/media, this venture is attractive. Khans have to be willing to take the hits. Could mean losses close to $100m over 4-5 yrs. The domestic TV deal after this one will tell the true tale.
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John Bradshaw Layfield - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:41:49 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6232820 Ignore Report Reply
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Predict the first weekly show's rating. Go!
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Mason Ryan - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:43:41 EST ID:n668Xxlt No.6232821 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232776
> Focused on producing fast-paced, high-impact competitions, AEW offers fans less scripted, soapy drama, and more athleticism and real sports analytics, bringing a legitimacy to wrestling that it has not previously had. Wrestlers will also be given more freedom to explore their characters and highlight their athletic abilities. Introducing statistics to wrestling for the first time ever, AEW will raise the stakes for its matches and deepen fan engagement by tracking each competitor’s wins and losses as the wrestlers pursue championships, analyzing their moves, assessing damage to their opponents, and providing insights into their winning streaks.

what
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Jim Ross - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:47:16 EST ID:XpGIgRGe No.6232822 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232803
WCW had already brand recognition when they launched Monday Nitro. They werent competing against current WWE but 1995 WWF which was a much different beast.

AEW needs to first create brand recognition before they go for the jugular.
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Jim Ross - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:52:07 EST ID:XpGIgRGe No.6232825 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232818
I think Tony Khan knows it will take years for this to become profitable. WCW took years as well to make a profit and when they did, they hit a gold mine. AEW needs to simply be patient and take their time. Profits will come if they are doing the right things.
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Brendan Michael Thomas - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:03:48 EST ID:V9v/7XnF No.6232828 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232776
>live

Not fucking around


>>6232821
That's literally all the key phrases any face GM says when they take over from a heel GM

Though the direct dig about wins and losses mattering was amusing
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Paul Heyman - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:09:38 EST ID:DpmzHgn8 No.6232830 Ignore Report Reply
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*jobs to Supernatural reruns*
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Big Daddy V - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:10:12 EST ID:KsSr5UmI No.6232831 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232778
Get ready for feminine penis champions.
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Jakob Hammermeier - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:16:52 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6232833 Ignore Report Reply
>Pentagon jr keeps inching closer to being this generation's LA Park
feels good, man
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Zardoz - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:24:46 EST ID:F7g6R1c1 No.6232836 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232833
He's gonna have to wrestle like 30 more years before he can be compared to LA Park
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:25:03 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232838 Ignore Report Reply
waddya think?
https://www.allelitewrestling.com/roster
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:25:46 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6232839 Report Reply
Well I guess it's official. I'd be surprised if it's a 2 hour show from the start but maybe they start out an hour and then move up two if ratings get better like Spike did with Impact. I'm also assuming the start date will be October 1 since that'll be the first Tuesday without Smackdown. But hey I'm glad we got another wrestling show on cable now.
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Dixie Carter - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:26:24 EST ID:urPi0Ytf No.6232840 Ignore Report Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Caprice Coleman - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:26:38 EST ID:umVpROFo No.6232841 Ignore Report Reply
Do you thing Ted Turner called vince once more? I would, after all these years just to twist that knife once more.

I'm back in wrestling business.
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Jinsei Shinzaki - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:28:04 EST ID:DQyWf1wt No.6232842 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232833
he needs more masks
>>6232838
solid
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Bubba Ray Dudley - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:28:08 EST ID:KF0t5CEx No.6232843 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232838
Give all the belts to Pentagon Jr tbh
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Paul Heyman - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:33:12 EST ID:lH8uvJTZ No.6232846 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232841
I don't know if Ted even remembers who Vince is at this point.
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Kevin Nash - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:33:35 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6232847 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232838
Vanilla, flippy, midgets, not much talent depth. Nothing special whatsoever.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:33:52 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6232848 Report Reply
>>6232846
And I don't even think he's even involved with Turner anymore.
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Lanny Poffo - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:35:30 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6232849 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232847
lolRNG
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:39:17 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232851 Ignore Report Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Brendan Michael Thomas - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:40:40 EST ID:V9v/7XnF No.6232852 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232838
>Wix website builder

this doesn't scream mad money
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Jakob Hammermeier - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:40:41 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6232853 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232836
yeah, but this fits nicely to mirror it for the progress of his career
>>6232842
LA Park didn't get any mask wins until 1998, a couple of years after he started his TNT run, so it's coming along at a good pace
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Ricky Steamboat - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:44:10 EST ID:JSKdsWJp No.6232854 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232838
>not a single hoss
Pathetic
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Brendan Michael Thomas - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:47:23 EST ID:V9v/7XnF No.6232856 Ignore Report Reply
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heh
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:47:58 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232857 Ignore Report Reply
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not happy about the guy who reported it might be a time-buy
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Brendan Michael Thomas - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:48:40 EST ID:V9v/7XnF No.6232858 Ignore Report Reply
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literal iphone photo
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Joker - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:53:04 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6232859 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232857
Oh no. They've upset the wrap. How will they get off the ground now without that one website regurgitating their press releases?
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:54:53 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232860 Ignore Report Reply
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Dave saying they'd be happy with 400K viewers on TV and the deal is really about the streaming rights
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:57:18 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6232862 Report Reply
>>6232860
So really it's about using AEW as a platform to bolster B/R Live like ESPN has done with UFC for ESPN+? It's not a bad idea in theory.
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Arm Van Dam - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:57:43 EST ID:udjc2s5d No.6232863 Ignore Report Reply
Would love to be a fly on the wall in Vince's office
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James Storm - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:00:33 EST ID:BRVptM6Z No.6232865 Ignore Report Reply
I thought Ace Romero was signed
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Chase Owens - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:01:19 EST ID:oBdJrrhd No.6232866 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232841
Ted Turner has very little if anything at all to do with Broadcasting.
His name in the brand is more cause of his founding role than any current leadership.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:03:16 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6232868 Report Reply
>>6232865
I thought he was signed with MLW?
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Joker - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:07:49 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6232871 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232860
I guess in the end it's all about opportunity cost. On TNT's side, they just want it to do better than whatever they would've had there instead. I don't think AEW is a big risk for them in that regard. AEW wants to get to a point where they can get big money deals like WWE.

This almost sounds similar to what Vince is doing with the xfl. Take a bath for a few years just to get your foot in the door and hope there's a market for what you're selling at a later time.
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:07:51 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232872 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232865
he's just in the battle royal, along with Brian Pillman Jr. The BR is open to non-exclusive talents.

Court Bauer explained that jimmy Havoc & MJF would be working both MLW and AEW for the time being, but given what happened with the Lucha Bros, its clear that MLW's deals are not exclusive and not long-term, so eventually Jimmy & Maxwell will be exclusive to AEW too.

If I were him, I'd be sweating if anymore MLW guys are in the battle royal.
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:40 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232874 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6232872
Court's probably also going to lose his #1 podcast.
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:44 EST ID: iLikEToleARn No.6232875 Report Reply
>>6232874
Court's probably also the best match?
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That's the wall brother !rweeu3R6fQ - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:10:27 EST ID:Jx0xAYav No.6232876 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232815
Welp, he's gonna get buried for this.
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Vito Thomaselli - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:12:14 EST ID:7TYnWuPH No.6232878 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232747
This is the greatest thread in the history of our sport
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Michael Kovac - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:14:26 EST ID:HIl7zfK0 No.6232879 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232785
>>6232786
>>6232795

A backstage role, something in TV production. We’re not talking on-screen. I want Bischoff’s pottery-like revenge on WWE from a once sunken ship with a new flag.
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Jakob Hammermeier - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:15:22 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6232880 Ignore Report Reply
if we can get Christmas music at holiday times can we get the Nitro theme for this thread?
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Savannah - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:18:30 EST ID:pSo2up5V No.6232883 Ignore Report Reply
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Found this interesting. Right before the upfront today, WWE's logo stayed in full view, even during it.
Markets open at 9:30 am in NYC for those that don't know
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Sumie Sakai - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:18:44 EST ID:qZ3kVc2f No.6232884 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232875
I dunno NJ, I think PAC/Page will be better than Aries/Low Ki personally.
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:19:48 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232885 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6232747
>[Court Bauer sweating intensifies]

Meltz reported back in September that Cody wanted Schiavone & Mike Tenay to call his NWA title match at ALL IN and the schedules just couldn't work out.

And Schiavone has been telling Conrad on WHW that he's regained his love of wrestling and this was going to be his last season of calling college sports.

And he's all over Starrcast:
https://twitter.com/StarrcastEvents/status/1128370265359093761
https://twitter.com/StarrcastEvents/status/1126227377493880833
https://twitter.com/StarrcastEvents/status/1124554348531417088
https://twitter.com/StarrcastEvents/status/1121141132333854726
https://twitter.com/StarrcastEvents/status/1095738411946860544
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The Great Khali - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:27:55 EST ID:iTGGEDAh No.6232887 Ignore Report Reply
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Who's gonna make their action figures tho
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Ricky Steamboat - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:28:00 EST ID:JSKdsWJp No.6232888 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232885
Tony and Mike with Corny on color is my dream commentary
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Kevin Nash - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:32:21 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6232890 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6232885
Tenay just ain't coming back to the business, all he does nowadays is talk to Meltzer in private and now and again Dave will share his views in the newsletter. No appearances, no podcasts, no cons, nothing.

Guy's still pissed off with the way TNA treated him on the way out, for all those years he did for them, just to replace him with the awful Josh Matthews for the sake of having an ex-WWE announcer and then keeping him under contract for a year just to do nothing so Jeff Jarrett couldn't poach him for GFW (which at that time included the Wrestle Kingdom 9 PPV with Jim Ross), I don't blame the guy.

I mean, it's never been shared publically why he shut himself out the business, but the above sure seems to be the reason. TNA tried to get him back when Jarrett came back on board and he told them to fuck off, and that's why Josh Matthews still has a job...that and Borash jumping ship.
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Kevin Nash - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:33:01 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6232891 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232887
I swear I saw something about figures being in the works a while back.
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RegalMachine RGM-79 !Ro1w0thJao - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:36:16 EST ID:9+kvF4WR No.6232892 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232803
This right here >>6232805
Starting a business 101: Never chase after the giants in your industry, you'll just trip over their foot prints, and will never catch up.
TNA, before Dixie and Hogan cooked up the restart the Monday Night wars bullshit, was good for what it was.
They had their niche style, niche audience, they were taking their own path to growing the company. Management and Hogan hyping up the ownership made them greedy. They tried to rush natural growth and progress trying to compete with WWE programming. Not to mention poor booking and letti
TNA didn't need to do this because wrestling fans who got tired of WWE or wanted an alternative when WWE wasn't on air came by their own volition.
The same happened with early WCW. They didn't have to trawl for viewers by mentioning WWF or trying to go up against it. Saturday afternoon hit and people who wanted to watch wrestling came.
>>6232807
>they are literally competition to WWE whatever night they are on.
There's being a competitor and being direct competition to a brand.
This analogy might suck but bear with me.
It's like how many brands of soda or beer on the market?
Hundreds that aren't linked to one of the big name brands. They exist with their own flavors, look, marketing, customers, etc. without ever taking on who ever their industry leaders directly. That being a competitor. It's not bad to just be a competitor and focus on what you do best. Then there is direct competition, like Coke v. Pepsi. They use to go out of their way to sway customers they even openly shit talked each other.
They could do that because they're industry leaders and have the means to be direct competition. One upping each other time and time again.
The latter is what the WWF v WCW Monday Night Wars was.
The former is what we have in wrestling now.
Any smart company should be a competitor. Do you and build your empire and avoid trying to go to war with someone who could literally stomp you out because they're already set into the industry.
AEW needs learn how to walk first.
Just my opinion.
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Ricky Steamboat - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:36:37 EST ID:JSKdsWJp No.6232893 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232890
Breaks my heart but I don’t blame him. Also those mike tenay records on Bandcamp are amazing and I wish I knew who made em.
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The Great Khali - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:41:24 EST ID:iTGGEDAh No.6232895 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232891
I hope so ,and I mean stuff that'll be available in stores, not just online, from a quality manufacturer
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Jakob Hammermeier - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:45:08 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6232897 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232895
I remember TNA had toys in toy stores like TRU back in the day, but I forget if they hit the big places like Target/Walmart
probably a relevant difference to notice because
>toy stores
>2019
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Jakob Hammermeier - Wed, 15 May 2019 12:46:15 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6232898 Ignore Report Reply
wait I am pretty sure that AAA USA fed from before Lucha Underground was in the big boxes, like I recall there being a Tineblas jr mask/toy set at either WalMart or Target
so at least some years ago there was the chance for it
nb for 2x
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Jack Korpela - Wed, 15 May 2019 13:02:42 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6232904 Ignore Report Reply
>le t-shirt company
>d-d-dave is biased, nevermind that multiple people left good money from ROH for AEW
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Lauren Brooke - Wed, 15 May 2019 13:04:03 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6232907 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232897
JAKKS made those but they got really lazy and barely made ones worth buying after awhile
Marvel/ToyBiz made the early TNA figures if I remember right, which also made WCWs
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Curry Man - Wed, 15 May 2019 13:04:38 EST ID:0xX9njcA No.6232908 Ignore Report Reply
Hoping AEW succeeds still seems considerably less fun than shitting on it at every turn imo, so I'm excited for their ratings to be absolute sub-World of Sport shit.
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 13:09:12 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232910 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232857
>>6232860
>>6232818
>Context of #AEWonTNT AEW TV Deal -- Platform is amazing and this is an unprecedented deal for a start-up.

>Confirmed from a source on the television side there are no rights fees but as we have been saying here for weeks that should not have been expected...

>...It's being treated like a sports property so production fees are there and a "great" advertising split for AEW. Remember, it took @VinceMcMahon nearly 20 years of producing highly-rated television before he got a somewhat significant rights deal from Viacom at the turn of the century. The monster deal took over 35 years. TNA/Impact once had Hulk Hogan, Sting and Randy Savage and couldn't get this kind of platform.

>It's an amazing deal that those in @AEWrestling are ecstatic about. If it comes across as flat to some that's because they were expecting rights fees due to some shoddy reporting. Right now #AEW is set up like old #WWE where PPV numbers and advertising will be significant to growth. #WWE remains idiot-proof because of TV deal.
  • John McMullen, Longtime National NFL columnist for TSN / insider for 973espn / pundit: @SBNationRadio @FoxSportsRadio
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Johnny Curtis - Wed, 15 May 2019 13:29:21 EST ID:HIKIrpua No.6232921 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232838
Jack Evans, Chuck Taylor, Fenix, Havoc, Janela and Excalibur - it's high budget PWG. Finally some wrestling for me.
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Stevie Richards - Wed, 15 May 2019 13:30:53 EST ID:jEGuiRVR No.6232923 Ignore Report Reply
Why are people acting surprised when Dave and half the roster have been saying for months this was going to happen?

Was all the denial just seething WWE weenies? Like did people seriously think a billionaire would throw all that money into a promotion if they didn't know they were 100% getting a TV deal at some point
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Kevin Nash - Wed, 15 May 2019 13:41:43 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6232926 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232923
Maybe because Dave is a compromised shill with extreme bias towards it?

And maybe the fact that other promotions try and start up and get nowhere, or get stuck with outright shitty TV deals. Impact is still on that fucking hunting channel, drawing flies, and 10k Twitch viewers give or take.
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Tito Santana - Wed, 15 May 2019 13:42:46 EST ID:jMLd+XDB No.6232928 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6232926
>because Dave is a compromised shill with extreme bias towards it?
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Eighth Commandment !zkBGAvsLnM - Wed, 15 May 2019 13:45:31 EST ID:fZTKrr/u No.6232929 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232783
Schiavone I can get behind, but please no Bischoff.

>>6232803
Only when they weren't running. When TNA did run Mondays, their ratings sank as low as 300k viewers iirc
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Stevie Richards - Wed, 15 May 2019 13:45:50 EST ID:jEGuiRVR No.6232932 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232926
Lol dry your eyes bro.

Other promotions don't have owners with more money than Vince pumping money into things either brah. IMPACT is a damaged brand of course TV people are going to be wary of giving them another good deal. AEW went out and signed superstars and made people take notice
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Hornswoggle - Wed, 15 May 2019 13:52:37 EST ID:woeBXzM+ No.6232933 Ignore Report Reply
I love that Vince booking his wrestlers like total shit has come back to bite him in the worst way with Cody.
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Shelton Benjamin - Wed, 15 May 2019 13:53:16 EST ID:ykkhl/vg No.6232934 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232923
Pretty much a mixture of denial and shitposting. The fact they didn't have their deal 100% confirmed yet was pretty much the last bastion of the e-drone. Mind you, even though literally everything Dave has said about AEW has come true, somehow there's still guys like >>6232926 that are convinced he's in their pocket and trying to pull stealth marketing through false reports. This deal happening should be all the evidence anyone needs that's not the case, the interest was legitimately there from the start.
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 13:55:22 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232935 Ignore Report Reply
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https://live.bleacherreport.com/wrestling/all-elite-wrestling/67
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Kevin Nash - Wed, 15 May 2019 14:02:19 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6232942 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232935
Still way too excessive of a price. Gullible marks falling for this shit is hilarious.
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Wed, 15 May 2019 14:02:56 EST ID:YILbGvXF No.6232943 Ignore Report Reply
>e-drone.
I feel like the largest group of people I've seen complaining, at least here on /wooo/ since this is the only place that I care about anyways, is people who watch Impact. Maybe because they know that another billionaire run Fed can swipe talent away if WWE won't? Even then, it's still doesn't seem like that many people actually care that much.
point being, I watch WWE and I haven't been "upset" about any of this, and I hardly see anyone else act likewise.
if people are being on social media, then that just solidifies that social media is a mistake
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Savannah - Wed, 15 May 2019 14:03:32 EST ID:pSo2up5V No.6232944 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232942
They fell for paying that price for 35 years kid
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Wed, 15 May 2019 14:04:22 EST ID:YILbGvXF No.6232945 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232943
meant to reply to >>6232934 nb
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Lanny Poffo - Wed, 15 May 2019 14:06:36 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6232947 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232923
Sorta, but it's also people that just can't handle the idea that a promotion full of "vanilla flippy midgets" is gonna be a huge success
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Domino - Wed, 15 May 2019 14:09:54 EST ID:5hxMlmN5 No.6232949 Ignore Report Reply
Vince must be going crazy.
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Wed, 15 May 2019 14:11:29 EST ID:YILbGvXF No.6232950 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232949
he'll get mad in about 20 years when he realizes whats happening.
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Hajime Ohara - Wed, 15 May 2019 14:24:49 EST ID:4AdFqB7Y No.6232952 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232950
PAUL GODDAMIT WHO ARE THESE AEW BASTARDS THAT STEAL OUR RATINGS FOR THE LAST TWO DECADES
Dad Paul died 19 years ago for trying to defend Balor from a homophobic Saudi mob
DAMMIT STEPH ARE YOU SAYING IM OUT OF TOUCH ILL SHOW YOU TOMORROW WE DEBUT A GAME OF THRONES GIMMICK HAHA JUST WATCHED THE WHOLE THING BRING ME BIRDE DANIELSON ACHOOO
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Kristal - Wed, 15 May 2019 14:26:07 EST ID:9BlRZaGX No.6232953 Ignore Report Reply
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>begin to remember Cody and Kenny talking about an AEW video game
>they mentioned if they ever had one they'd want AKI to make it
>Syn Sophia retweeted them
WE'RE ONE STEP CLOSER
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Kevin Nash - Wed, 15 May 2019 14:33:54 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6232956 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232944
It's 2019, times have changed. It's far too high. I'm not saying AEW PPVs should be $9.99 a month though.
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Luna Vachon - Wed, 15 May 2019 14:40:16 EST ID:BLsuG4IT No.6232958 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232949
Nah, Hunter's going to have a talk with him.
>"Listen here Vince, the thing is... ya see pops... that pissant company isn't a threat. But regardless, here's what you gotta do: book me in some squash matches, and then book me for a World Title shot, and don't make me ask 'am I fucking going over?' again. Let me win and make me the face of the company again. That'll show 'em."
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Terra Ryzin - Wed, 15 May 2019 15:05:41 EST ID:4ZbNJAFJ No.6232975 Ignore Report Reply
Absolutely wild to think that almost 20 years after the door was slammed on pro wrestling ever being on TNT again it's coming back.

This is pretty neat.
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Jim Cornette - Wed, 15 May 2019 15:13:09 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.6232978 Ignore Report Reply
You should all be happy about this, even the Stamford Wives should be happy. More wrestling is better for the industry. Guys have more options now to make good money than before.
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DIO Brando !FAGGOtBROs - Wed, 15 May 2019 15:16:08 EST ID:96Z0tJ/Z No.6232980 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232740


The son of dusty Rhodes manages to start up a wrestling promotion that gets back on TNT. This is beyond fucking incredible storyline wise. This is the end of wwe. Ted Turner is coming for you niggaz
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Jinsei Shinzaki - Wed, 15 May 2019 15:26:29 EST ID:DQyWf1wt No.6232981 Ignore Report Reply
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And all this because Vince didin't let him drop this persona
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Fixxxer - Wed, 15 May 2019 15:44:15 EST ID:IHKDJk18 No.6232986 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232820

I think the press release they put out hinted at a 1 hour show, so it's like Nitro when it first started
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Fixxxer - Wed, 15 May 2019 15:45:14 EST ID:IHKDJk18 No.6232987 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232986

Wrong reply, but hopefully you can look through and see what I meant to reply to. FUCK IT
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John Bradshaw Layfield - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:00:20 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6232995 Ignore Report Reply
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He's in.
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:02:57 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6232998 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232986
>I think the press release they put out hinted at a 1 hour show
They are really walking a tricky tight-rope.

First, LIVE broadcasting is more expensive.
Two, that means they need to run at least 52 shows a year... which means they need a location (or locations) for 52 nights.
That means 52 nights of building rentals + production fees.

And you can't charge people to attend just one hour of wrestling, so that means there's a lot of dark matches

do they go big and try to run 10K seaters all the time? for just one hour of tv a week?

People shit on the Impact Zone, but there's a reason Full Sail, the LU Temple, the Asylum, the Manhattan Center and Center Stage were things... you have to walk before you can run.
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Mark Haskins - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:03:34 EST ID:6ob5T6fy No.6232999 Ignore Report Reply
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How long until we see BILLIONAIRE KHAN'S WRASSLIN' WARROOM on Raw?
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Matt Hardy - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:05:45 EST ID:nYZ8AKjd No.6233002 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6232935
I can't help thinking this is a mistake. I know they want to recoup their investment, but that price is way, way too much. WWE and NJPW let you watch their biggest shows of the year for 10 bucks, and that gives you access to massive catalog of past events as well for the month. I very much want to support AEW, but I'm not paying 5x the price that I'd pay for Wrestlemania or Wrestle Kingdom. Fuck man, for the same amount of money I can watch Mania, Kingdom, Royal Rumble, Summerslam, and Dominion throughout the year. They're setting themselves up for a massive disappointment charging that. Charge the industry standard $10 bucks, introduce your streaming service and your promotion the masses, and if you become a hit on TNT come the fall, raise the price under the guise of offering a premium product. This sucks.

I planned on buying this, but now I'll be in the tubes. Oh well.
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Lash LeRoux - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:06:33 EST ID:kxp48ub+ No.6233003 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232995
He needs to be GM.
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Terra Ryzin - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:11:11 EST ID:4ZbNJAFJ No.6233007 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232999

Them rolling the old 90s vignettes would still be more interesting than 99% of the shit they've put on that show over the last 10 years.
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Sumie Sakai - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:18:43 EST ID:qZ3kVc2f No.6233008 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6232887
Wouldn't be surprised if Figures Toy Co. offered, but I hope they get someone good.
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Awesome Kong - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:24:44 EST ID:nbNr4u3F No.6233011 Ignore Report Reply
There's reasons to be hype about this but I have grave misgivings about it. This monolothic corporation, which has only gotten worse in a lot of ways, might really creatively sniffle Elite, though Elite is something that probably wouldn't have had great creative to begin with. Just makes me think we'll get a high budget version of ROH which is gonna be so much worse/boringer than TNA at its worst, worse than most recent WWE years and of course total unimaginative dogshit compared to Lucha Underground. Beware motherfuckers, beware.
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:27:52 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6233013 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6232999
its already started:

>After arriving at the WWE Performance Center last week, Robert Strauss (formerly known as Robbie E in IMPACT Wrestling) made his WWE NXT debut at Thursday’s live event in Sanford, Florida. However, it was not as a wrestler or even a manager.

>Dressed in business attire, Strauss led Indian wrestlers Rinku Singh and Saurav Gurjar to the ring and introduced himself not as a manager, but as a brand.

>Strauss said he’s creating a brand consisting of elite athletes from all over the world.
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Kevin Nash - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:37:19 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6233019 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233013
>>6232999
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Awesome Kong - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:39:45 EST ID:nbNr4u3F No.6233021 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233013
cool, this might be a great shot in the arm of NXT creative that it's badly needed for like years now. Don't care how low brow and petty it is or whatever, this could be really great if it doesn't just get dropped quickly because of Haitch being too self-aware though there's probably a high chance of that happening too...
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Maven - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:39:57 EST ID:pF+ANvmH No.6233022 Ignore Report Reply
https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1128758969076461568?s=19

Is it fair to say Meltz is a co-opted stooge yet?
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Murphy - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:40:13 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6233023 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233008
God I hope not, the Rising Stars of Wrestling line is trash.

I just hope Penta gets a good figure.
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:47:46 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6233027 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6233022
this is just gonna get >bix and >meltz shitposting but its worth looking at Dave's coverage of AEW

What's clear about this deal is that its definitely good. Production costs are covered AND they're splitting ad revenue with Turner AND they'll re-evaluate it for a rights fee in the future.

The question is if its actually the "biggest deal since WCW" like Dave said it would be.

I guess it comes down to how much Spike paid for TNA and there were reports that it was a lot. They even helped pay for the salaries of guys like Hogan, Sting and Angle.

Its really just a numbers and cents thing: if Spike gave TNA more money then Turner is giving AEW, then this is not the biggest deal.
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New Jack - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:51:16 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6233030 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6233027
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Terra Ryzin - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:58:54 EST ID:4ZbNJAFJ No.6233036 Ignore Report Reply
>a bunch of tweets with no one backing up claims with actual evidence

shocking
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:58:57 EST ID: iLikEToleARn No.6233037 Report Reply
>>6233036
I can't possibly expect one of the midcard trading wins with a mask all along.
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Mark Madden - Wed, 15 May 2019 17:01:33 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.6233039 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6233037
Bro NJ you're right, we got take the mask off.
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Shelton Benjamin - Wed, 15 May 2019 17:05:19 EST ID:ykkhl/vg No.6233041 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233030
Can anybody remember what it was the Elite guys did to get on Bix's shit list? Was it when Kenny booked the ex-con pedo on a show and he ran with the story? Literally every single time they do anything he appears with a 'hot take' to try and bury them, without fail. There's a reason nobody takes this clown seriously.
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Cody Rhodes - Wed, 15 May 2019 17:09:54 EST ID:T/ec7PA+ No.6233044 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233041
Kenny insulted him over something years ago.

That and no one respects him like they do Meltzer, and these are Meltzer's mates so got to shit on him.
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Aksana - Wed, 15 May 2019 17:11:40 EST ID:GE+2ucEB No.6233046 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6232838
I don't remember peter avalon looking like this, granted I haven't seen him in years
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Ravashing Rick Rude - Wed, 15 May 2019 17:42:09 EST ID:c5VMe1b0 No.6233062 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233003
He'd unironically be good
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Tito Santana - Wed, 15 May 2019 17:58:00 EST ID:jMLd+XDB No.6233071 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233002
You were never buying it.
You were always gonna watch it on Taima.
Quit your lying and weak ass concern trolling.
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Dory Funk Jr. - Wed, 15 May 2019 18:01:32 EST ID:nDsO/CBt No.6233074 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233046
When did he become an adult?
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Kenny - Wed, 15 May 2019 18:07:00 EST ID:S+7IjDaG No.6233077 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232890
Shame. Mike Tenay was underappreciated as a commentator. He and Don West made TNA's dark moments watchable, and was a delight when he came on Monday Nitro to work with Tony and Brain. My dream commentary team for AEW would be Tony, JR, and a special guest color guy. Like one day it's Elijah Burke, another day it's Don West. Odds of that happening are slim though.
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John Cena - Wed, 15 May 2019 18:48:02 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6233092 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232890
>Guy's still pissed off with the way TNA treated him on the way out
>I mean, it's never been shared publically why he shut himself out the business

interesting strategy of posting fake news
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The Machine - Wed, 15 May 2019 18:50:49 EST ID:mk3Q2vvE No.6233096 Ignore Report Reply
Jamie Kellner BTFO
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Jakob Hammermeier - Wed, 15 May 2019 19:07:47 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6233107 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6233023
gonna be tough to top Mexico's offerings of Pentagon jr figures
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Awesome Kong - Wed, 15 May 2019 19:36:19 EST ID:nbNr4u3F No.6233125 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233096
what the fuck has that guy even been doing since WCW died? Did he stay embedded in the Wagner/AOL system somewhere with a comfy job?
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Gangrel - Wed, 15 May 2019 20:29:09 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6233153 Ignore Report Reply
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how did they get the scoop before anybody else?
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Lance Bravado - Wed, 15 May 2019 20:31:02 EST ID:rTDg3+vc No.6233155 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233153
kek I remember the thread for this and nobody was buying into it
sure showed us lmao
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RegalMachine RGM-79 !Ro1w0thJao - Wed, 15 May 2019 20:42:09 EST ID:9+kvF4WR No.6233161 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233153
>>6233155
What better liaisons than a veteran wrestler and booker/agent/announcer.
All while Cody and Co. sat in the shadows.
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Masaaki Mochizuki - Wed, 15 May 2019 20:46:23 EST ID:H9JiNy3d No.6233163 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233153
This is some full circle shit. Ross and Jericho both became bigger names via Wrestling on Turner networks and are now back again.
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Candice Michelle - Wed, 15 May 2019 20:53:22 EST ID:BLsuG4IT No.6233167 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232750
Yo, offtopic but who is this? nb
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Masahiro Chono - Wed, 15 May 2019 21:00:44 EST ID:jMLd+XDB No.6233171 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233167
That's Zelina Vega dawg.
When she was Rosita in TNA
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Ultimate Spider Jr. - Wed, 15 May 2019 21:16:05 EST ID:E1+Xybxh No.6233182 Ignore Report Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Tank Abbott - Wed, 15 May 2019 21:16:33 EST ID:jEGuiRVR No.6233183 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232998
Boy are you shook.

We don't even know they're doing 52 live shows a year. They seem open to the idea of an off-season and of course they're not going to be taping TV at 10k seat arenas dumbass. WWE barely do 10k in some towns, do you think anyone involved with AEW believes they could pull 10k every week?
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Brian Pillman - Wed, 15 May 2019 21:23:40 EST ID:nYZ8AKjd No.6233187 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233071
Incorrect, my man. I have no issue with supporting companies that put out content that I enjoy. I buy games regularly, I subscribe to Netflix, Spotify/Hulu, Amazon, and occasionally throw in on UFC with a couple buddies. Hell, I even bought All In last fall (although I went in half with my brother on that one), and subbed to NJPW World for the month of WK. I don't pay for the network, I just switch emails every month and get a new free trial. I hate worrying about streams going down or constant buffering during a show I want to watch. Believe it or not, some people do actually buy things. Not hating on piracy, either. Sometimes you can't afford something and if it can be had for free without hurting anyone, go for it.

However, you can fuck right off with the "concern trolling" bullshit. Fifty fucking dollars for this show is just too much, and they're pricing themselves out of a lot of buys that way. $30 is still pushing, but I'd consider that. $10 is now the standard for major wrestling events on a streaming service. I badly want to see this company succeed, but unless my brother and another friend want to throw in, I'll be in the tubes or finding an acestream.

I hope your post made you feel good and like you put someone in their place, If that's what you need.
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Aldo Montoya - Wed, 15 May 2019 21:27:24 EST ID:DQyWf1wt No.6233188 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233182
i want nothing more than pain for wwe
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ODB - Wed, 15 May 2019 21:44:00 EST ID:DpmzHgn8 No.6233189 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233182
The console war bullshit is both cancer and life for the IWC. Better than stale nothingness.
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Gangrel - Wed, 15 May 2019 22:13:17 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6233200 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233183
They said they're live every week
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 15 May 2019 22:18:19 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6233201 Report Reply
>>6233200
Well if that's the case, then it's gotta be a two hour show then.
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bari - Thu, 16 May 2019 00:27:17 EST ID:5bSi3s9b No.6233243 Ignore Report Reply
Quick question, does this deal kill PWG since Excalibur is signed?
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GAMI - Thu, 16 May 2019 00:31:32 EST ID:U11Zks8i No.6233244 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232747
The biggest slapdick in the history of slapdicks is back on where he belongs. On commentary
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Leia Meow - Thu, 16 May 2019 02:32:15 EST ID:0xX9njcA No.6233277 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232978

Literally where is the fun in that
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Mitch Ryder - Thu, 16 May 2019 04:16:20 EST ID:w2Qrws/2 No.6233287 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233243
Not unless they hire SUPER DRAGON
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The People - Thu, 16 May 2019 04:40:48 EST ID:lw5nS0mx No.6233290 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233287
The only acceptable result for this would be Super Dragon psycho drivering Pentagon off the stage to close the first show.
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John Laurinaitis - Thu, 16 May 2019 06:47:54 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6233327 Ignore Report Reply
So if they aren't getting paid rights fees, How are they funding TV production? from live gates and merch?
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Carlito - Thu, 16 May 2019 07:22:12 EST ID:Jf/aVLBf No.6233331 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232838

I really hope this succeeds but to be honest they really need more talent. In a way I kind of hope this TV deal gives NJPW the guts to break off their current deal with RoH.

Right now the RoH deal practically offers nothing to NJPW, while if they make a collaboration deal with AEW, they can get their talent on a major nationwide network in the US, plus it would bolster the ranks of AEW's talentpool.
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Becky Bayless - Thu, 16 May 2019 07:43:35 EST ID:EvYXc0Fp No.6233339 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233331
ROH (the "O" is capitalised) offers them a better part of a decade in a successful co-operating relationship, for one
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Jon Bolen - Thu, 16 May 2019 07:50:07 EST ID:Yf+u6gFW No.6233345 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233339
go back to bed, bully.
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Mabel - Thu, 16 May 2019 08:14:21 EST ID:Q0bqICPd No.6233351 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233327
Tnt is paying for production (does this mean Turner owns the episodes?)
AEW and TNT are splitting the ad revenue (like Impact on Pop)

AEW can make profits on ticket sales, ppv buys and merch
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Becky Bayless - Thu, 16 May 2019 08:24:54 EST ID:EvYXc0Fp No.6233356 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233345
Such an erudite rebuttal.
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Jon Bolen - Thu, 16 May 2019 08:34:34 EST ID:Yf+u6gFW No.6233362 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233356
Maybe if you weren't such a roh shill, I'd take your statement more seriously
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Pedro Morales - Thu, 16 May 2019 10:12:15 EST ID:jCH8J3Fu No.6233397 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233345
>>6233362
He's not wrong. Until AEW plans became concrete, it was just a theoretical.

Also, you don't understand Japanese culture: loyalty is a huge value in business. With ROH, they've had 5+ years of support in US expansion, including getting them into Madison Square Garden. Not to mention consistent promotion via syndicated TV and PPV events. And with ROH, they've been able to capitalize on successful relationships with both CMLL in Mexico and Rev Pro in the UK.

NJPW obviously wants Kenny and Jericho, but they're not going to just abandon a long-term business relationship because Cody Rhodes tapped an untested money mark into signing Joey Ryan and Leva Bates his WCW-vanity promotion.
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Sayaka Obihiro - Thu, 16 May 2019 12:12:34 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6233428 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233397
you can speculate Yamato Damashii all you want but since they don't have a Japanese person in charge of the company anymore I don't know how much that stereotype is applicable
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Becky Bayless - Thu, 16 May 2019 12:53:13 EST ID:EvYXc0Fp No.6233449 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233362
>pointing out facts makes you a "shill"

I'd feign taking you seriously if you weren't an utter dullard.
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Masahiro Chono - Thu, 16 May 2019 14:32:33 EST ID:jMLd+XDB No.6233512 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233243
Doubt it.
PWG only runs one every other month these days anyway.
Plus I can see PWG being to AEW what Evolve has become to NXT/WWE, a sort of proto feeder league/auditioning ground for guys. Can't see The Bucks ever doing anything to hurt PWG given they openly profess their love for it at every given opportunity.
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Crash Holly - Fri, 17 May 2019 00:05:58 EST ID:657WP9mS No.6233862 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6232980
Seriously.
This is some Paul Artreides shit.
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Stone Cold Steve Austin - Fri, 17 May 2019 00:13:51 EST ID:Yf+u6gFW No.6233867 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233449
The fact that you're using esoteric words to justify that you tried to correct someone on their capitalization of roh is just sad, bro.
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Johnny C. - Fri, 17 May 2019 00:38:41 EST ID:2oYJaLCh No.6233872 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233339
>ROH (the "O" is capitalised)

This musing is an abominable reflection of thine inability to countenance the floccinaucinihilipilification of R0H by the aforecited participant in our electronic confabulation.

The 0 is for the number of dimes drawn on any show not featuring NJPW talent
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Ice Cream Jr. - Fri, 17 May 2019 03:12:29 EST ID:EvYXc0Fp No.6233894 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233867
>dullard is esoteric

OK dummy

>>6233872
You havin' a stroke?
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Johnny C. - Fri, 17 May 2019 03:39:08 EST ID:2oYJaLCh No.6233904 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233894
It's a perfectly coherent sentence. What are you, some kinda dullard?
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Ice Cream Jr. - Fri, 17 May 2019 03:57:41 EST ID:EvYXc0Fp No.6233906 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233904
I was referring to your ego-dick

You're not actually proving any point here, y'know, besides how gotten to you are by a word that wasn't even addressing you.
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Johnny C. - Fri, 17 May 2019 04:03:45 EST ID:2oYJaLCh No.6233907 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233906
>correcting the fucking capitalisation of ROH
>"Such an erudite rebuttal."
>"I'd feign taking you seriously if you weren't an utter dullard."

You come off as a smarmy prick with a superiority complex so you got a post parodying that. It's pretty funny that you can detect that tone in the parody and not in your own fucking posts.
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Zeus - Fri, 17 May 2019 04:08:55 EST ID:cxRG1j4P No.6233908 Ignore Report Reply
>AEW becomes WCW2
>Jericho as Hogan
>The Bucks as Hall and Nash
>Cody as Dusty

But who is Kenny? Macho Man?
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Hardcore Holly - Fri, 17 May 2019 04:27:58 EST ID:JVuF6cIu No.6233912 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233908
Yes. Hangman can be Luger and Shida can be Liz
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Ice Cream Jr. - Fri, 17 May 2019 05:08:48 EST ID:EvYXc0Fp No.6233913 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233907
Probably because I'm not being "smarmy" (or whatever you think that word actually means) but your inferiority complex is not my fault, dummy
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Zeus - Fri, 17 May 2019 05:35:19 EST ID:cxRG1j4P No.6233915 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233912
And PAC is Steiner. It's all falling into place.
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Johnny C. - Fri, 17 May 2019 05:44:49 EST ID:2oYJaLCh No.6233920 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233915
>PAC
>Not X-Pac
Though for this to work he's going to have to jump ship the other way again...

>>6233913
So, in back-to-back posts of yours, I have an "ego-dick" and an "inferiority complex".

I appreciate that it's natural to get defensive and throw out of the first random insults that comes to mind at somebody when they're calling you out for what you are and it gets to you. But man, you'd at least be able to hide that better if you could keep them straight.
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Ice Cream Jr. - Fri, 17 May 2019 06:24:26 EST ID:EvYXc0Fp No.6233930 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233920
Nothing you've said gets to me, albeit that flagrant over-abuse of a thesaurus that you perpetrated was kinda upsetting.
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Stone Cold Steve Austin - Fri, 17 May 2019 07:59:20 EST ID:Yf+u6gFW No.6233940 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233930
Could you please talk like a normal person then? You honestly sound like you're trying to make yourself seem smart on a Inuit hookah forum.
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Ice Cream Jr. - Fri, 17 May 2019 08:28:26 EST ID:EvYXc0Fp No.6233949 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233940
Imagine freaking out ever someone using the word dullard
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Santino Marella - Fri, 17 May 2019 08:35:35 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6233950 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6233940
>>6233949
Both of you are utter bellends. There's not gonna be a winner in this cat fight you twats have dug into.
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Axl Rotten - Fri, 17 May 2019 09:57:58 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6233967 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233950
That gif would be amazing if it was Cole pointing at Matthews.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Fri, 17 May 2019 10:34:31 EST ID:It2BUKqt No.6233976 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232910
>TNA/Impact once had Hulk Hogan, Sting and Randy Savage and couldn't get this kind of platform.

TNA never had them all at the same time, and they had them all after the prime of their careers. Nobody was really aching to see a barely mobile Hogan go one-on-one with a slightly more mobile Sting. Also TNA had the brand poison that was Vince Russo, which certainly didn't help matters with Spike TV.
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Nick Jackson - Fri, 17 May 2019 12:22:46 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6234008 Ignore Report Reply
>>6233976
TBF, Sting popped PPV buyrates in 2006 for Final Resolution and BFG. And Hogan's debut was their biggest TV rating ever. There's a bit of revisionist history going on with Spike & TNA: it was a big deal and they had the full support of the network. Spike wanted to go all-in with them, and it really came down to Dixie mismanaging the funds on touring, live production, contract salaries and not wanting to concede partial ownership to Spike.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Fri, 17 May 2019 12:34:01 EST ID:It2BUKqt No.6234015 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234008
>Hogan's debut was their biggest TV rating ever.

After which the ratings slid down to obscenely low numbers - so low that Spike moved TNA back to Thursdays.
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RegalMachine RGM-79 !Ro1w0thJao - Fri, 17 May 2019 12:42:24 EST ID:9+kvF4WR No.6234019 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234008
You're not wrong hey had one of the hottest cable channels fully backing them up we can't forget that Dixie gave the keys to Hogan and he drove that bitch right into a ditch. The show suffered hard after a long stint of decent work. Once TNA became this shitty clown show that Spike got stuck with after trusting them to keep improving Spike started to push shit like August Warning or them signing King Mo to cross-promote MMA shows.
The shit management was the main crux of TNA. No one person can get single blame it's a chain of one dumb asshole letting another dumb asshole do stupid shit that hurt the promotion.
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RegalMachine RGM-79 !Ro1w0thJao - Fri, 17 May 2019 12:44:25 EST ID:9+kvF4WR No.6234022 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234015
It was really sad because you could see his influence instantly after that. So the novelty and hype of Hogan coming in faded pretty quick.
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She Nay Nay - Fri, 17 May 2019 13:14:16 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6234031 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234022
week 1
>oh boy it's hogan
week 1+x
>aww fuck it's hogan
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Fri, 17 May 2019 13:27:17 EST ID:It2BUKqt No.6234040 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234019
Important thing to remember: The three months or so before Hogan's debut in (read: takeover of) TNA looked as if the company was finally turning the ship around after years of idiocy. It wasn't perfect or even exceptionally good, but it was getting better.

Then Hogan came in and the company hit a metaphorical iceberg. That it still floats on to this day (TO THIS DAY!) is a goddamn miracle.
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Owen Fart - Fri, 17 May 2019 13:44:23 EST ID:zwoGFhDe No.6234051 Report Reply
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>>6234040

>FREEHAVEN

Long time no see dude, hope all is well.
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Fixxxer - Fri, 17 May 2019 15:00:27 EST ID:IHKDJk18 No.6234089 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234040

Hogan coming in completely ruined the momentum that TNA had going in 09. They wanted instant success, and like you said, it's cost them to this very day.
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Super Hentai - Fri, 17 May 2019 15:13:58 EST ID:JJLeHszV No.6234097 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234040
>Freehaven
cringe
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RegalMachine RGM-79 !Ro1w0thJao - Fri, 17 May 2019 15:37:57 EST ID:9+kvF4WR No.6234113 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6234031
When it was rumor a lot of dirt sheets and fans thought this was going to be Hulkster coming in to maybe do a few PPVs, work some nostalgia marks, shill his book and give this up-and-coming company a nice rub.
Then the press conference happen. The phrase "business partner" was used it didn't hit some people's ear well.
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Fri, 17 May 2019 15:40:45 EST ID:N0gMSQCl No.6234114 Report Reply
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>>6234113
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Owen Fart - Fri, 17 May 2019 16:05:59 EST ID:zwoGFhDe No.6234126 Report Reply
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>>6234113

get in losers, we're doin a nitro
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Blue Panther - Fri, 17 May 2019 23:22:55 EST ID:EvYXc0Fp No.6234324 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234022
>>6234040
>>6234113
Remember the "castmembers" speech?
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The People - Fri, 17 May 2019 23:34:49 EST ID:DIKFKCIe No.6234327 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234324
>It's almost been 10 years since this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOwBJu5Hfzk
2010 still remains the single worst year for wrestling, in spite of WWE's recent best attempts.
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RegalMachine RGM-79 !Ro1w0thJao - Sat, 18 May 2019 00:28:22 EST ID:9+kvF4WR No.6234336 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234327
Jesus Christ.
I've never seen this.
So the entire crowd was being treated like plants.
And talked down to like a bunch of freshmen high school kids before a field trip.
I knew there were plants. Literally there were faces you saw week to week like backpack kid, toothless black guy, and the big earred loli but no idea they did this shit.
These were the people running the administrative end of TNA. A bunch of milquetoast suits who didn't understand wrestling or it's fan base.
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Trent Barreta - Sat, 18 May 2019 00:42:37 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6234338 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234336
>plants
I'm pretty sure the Impact Zone just had creepy regulars.
Impact Zone could have used some plants to show some damn enthusiasm in that sea of zombie-ass motherfuckers
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Ernest The Cat Miller - Sat, 18 May 2019 00:45:08 EST ID:DxpdJWK4 No.6234339 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234327
Maybe if WWE & TNA was all you watched.
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The People - Sat, 18 May 2019 00:47:58 EST ID:DIKFKCIe No.6234340 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234339
Well admittedly, yeah. What was some good shit from that time that I missed out on?
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Ashley Cartier - Sat, 18 May 2019 01:43:00 EST ID:QIqOXQHr No.6234350 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232981
Don't call it a grave Vince, this is the future you chose.
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Madison Eagles - Sat, 18 May 2019 02:52:39 EST ID:86k3rOUn No.6234366 Ignore Report Reply
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2836546-how-aew-was-born-inside-tony-khan-and-the-elites-attempt-to-disrupt-wrestling
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RegalMachine RGM-79 !Ro1w0thJao - Sat, 18 May 2019 03:32:24 EST ID:9+kvF4WR No.6234377 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234366
>disrupt wrestling
That's copy writing marketing jargon meant to appeal to millennial for clicks.
AEW isn't some fucking tech start up for Christ sake.
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Richie Steamboat - Sat, 18 May 2019 05:30:13 EST ID:kCVS6iB5 No.6234381 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234377
Everyone nowadays wants to be a pioneer even though they're traversing the same paths paved for them generations ago. Modern business just repackaged shit that adds a technology twist that tickles venture capital boners, but it's all just a front for insidious data mining purpose. Media people think interracial relationships and feminist subtexts in big budget movies are somehow groundbreaking. It's baffling.
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Paul Orndorff - Sat, 18 May 2019 09:48:06 EST ID:I3AwJLWS No.6234426 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234381
The media is kind of like WWE, they think people can't remember anything before a month or two ago.
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Teddy Hart - Sat, 18 May 2019 10:54:09 EST ID:dYhrmb6W No.6234443 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234366
Unless AEW's shows are VASTLY different from All In, I really don't see how they're going to disrupt anything. All In felt no different from any major US indie in terms of presentation, in-ring style, the wrestlers on the card, etc. It was basically just a ROH show with a ton of buzz behind it.

>>6234008
That episode wasn't JUST about Hogan's debut though. It was launching a new era of TNA as a whole. It wasn't just Hogan that debuted that night, it was also the debut of Eric Bischoff, Ric Flair, the returns of Sean Waltman, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Jeff Hardy, etc. It was all about trying to position TNA as a legitimate rival promotion to WWE.
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Ron Garvin - Sat, 18 May 2019 14:16:25 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6234509 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234443
All In was basically a one off novelty show and should not be used as an indication of what is to come. I think the same should be said for Double Or Nothing too except for maybe production value.
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Teddy Hart - Sat, 18 May 2019 15:27:57 EST ID:dYhrmb6W No.6234519 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234509
>All In was basically a one off novelty show and should not be used as an indication of what is to come.
That's exactly why I said "unless AEW is different from All In." We don't know what AEW is going to be like, but if it's anything like All In, they aren't going to "disrupt" shit. They're just going to be ROH/MLW/Impact with a better TV deal, and tons of money and hype behind them.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Sat, 18 May 2019 16:41:23 EST ID:It2BUKqt No.6234540 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234443
> It was launching a new era of TNA as a whole.

...with guys well out of their prime who had already made their names elsewhere in the industry! (And also Val Venis.)
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Sycho Sid - Sat, 18 May 2019 17:19:35 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6234559 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234540
>who had already made their names elsewhere in the industry!

so like AEW will be?
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Ron Garvin - Sat, 18 May 2019 17:40:52 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6234568 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234519
"unless AEW is different from All In" kind of reads like you're expecting it to be similar, my bad.
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Jerry Sags - Sat, 18 May 2019 18:00:27 EST ID:tsNg5/qg No.6234575 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234559
"Out of their prime" is the main takeway from the post you are quoting. One could not possibly hope to start a major wrestling promotion with completely unknown talent, at least not with how high AEW is aiming.
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El Santo - Sat, 18 May 2019 20:01:19 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6234619 Ignore Report Reply
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FUCKING LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DAY 1 AND THINGS ARE GOING TO SHIT

https://www.f4wonline.com/news/pac-vs-page-double-or-nothing-due-creative-differences-284076?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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DrHouse !DOGLetgMcA - Sat, 18 May 2019 20:17:39 EST ID:UYbRUHoF No.6234622 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234619
Little extreme there pal
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El Santo - Sat, 18 May 2019 20:19:09 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6234624 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6234622
I just wanna be part of the shitposting, man
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Damien Demento - Sat, 18 May 2019 20:22:24 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.6234625 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234619
I wouldnt say going to shit, just a minor hiccup all things considered
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Hiroshi Tanahashi - Sat, 18 May 2019 20:22:38 EST ID:DpmzHgn8 No.6234626 Ignore Report Reply
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Extreme levels of coping here.
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Anthony Nese - Sat, 18 May 2019 20:24:11 EST ID:iLe2GkB4 No.6234628 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234619
Based Pac protecting DG!
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Vincent J. McMahon - Sat, 18 May 2019 20:31:08 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6234629 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234619
yo bitch your name is PAC not LA Park come back in a couple of decades when you can pull that shit
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Drake Younger - Sat, 18 May 2019 20:40:26 EST ID:z2hwvJv8 No.6234631 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234626
He's right, tho. You'd either get a fuck finish or the match would just not happen at all with no mention of why.
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Major DeBeers - Sat, 18 May 2019 20:41:21 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6234632 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234619
AEW booking confirmed to be: Job to Cody's boys or else.
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Mitch Ryder - Sat, 18 May 2019 20:42:14 EST ID:LUMg+nxK No.6234633 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234631
then why not do it in their own company

the "wins and losses matter" thing isnt an excuse because even in pro sports there are ties. The heel could use the DQ to set up a match down the line instead of doing it in a different company and having it not matter
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Bryce Remsburg - Sat, 18 May 2019 20:45:41 EST ID:xHq2F5NJ No.6234634 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234619
BASED PAC KNOWING HIS WORTH
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Jerry Lynn - Sat, 18 May 2019 20:50:33 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6234635 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6234619
>PAC protecting the Dream Gate
Absolutely based
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Mustafa Said - Sat, 18 May 2019 21:09:50 EST ID:QJXj5NuP No.6234642 Ignore Report Reply
Kinda sucks, you'd think they could come up with something storyline to make the match happen, but they're being honest. Thing is, with them drawing talent from everywhere, you're going to run into this problem eventually. How many other guys are going to cite creative differences when they don't want to do a job or work a certain guy? Gotta be careful.
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Chi Chi - Sat, 18 May 2019 22:18:06 EST ID:c8n9JpcU No.6234654 Ignore Report Reply
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>>6234619
>wanting pac to job to page when page is already established with the aew audience
>spoiling that page is winning his match
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Togi Makabe - Sat, 18 May 2019 22:19:18 EST ID:GuTEQIIQ No.6234655 Ignore Report Reply
Imagine booking a jabroni nothing like Page to go over Pac lmao
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Hiroshi Tanahashi - Sat, 18 May 2019 22:31:06 EST ID:DpmzHgn8 No.6234656 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234655
>Imagine booking a jabroni nothing like Page
ftfy
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Alex Wright - Sat, 18 May 2019 22:32:37 EST ID:Xx5MphDd No.6234657 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234655
its like booking scotty riggs to go over goldberg
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Vito Thomaselli - Sat, 18 May 2019 22:52:26 EST ID:hwjuMaBo No.6234664 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234655
This. It's pretty damning of AEW already that they'll sabotage their own card to ensure their 'guy' goes over. PAC's the bigger star and he's right to know his worth. The fuck are they doing? Literally nobody would care if Hangman lost, you can't damage something that doesn't have any credibility in the first place, if anything he'd get more out of losing a competitive match than whatever jobber he's getting now.
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Mike Tenay - Sat, 18 May 2019 22:56:20 EST ID:+6pE9e71 No.6234666 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234664
I mean what you said is the exact reason they wanted him to go over
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Val Venis - Sat, 18 May 2019 23:05:46 EST ID:MbMFdgxt No.6234667 Ignore Report Reply
They didnt even TRY to make Page look good on any of their shows leading into DoN and they threw the entire match off the card to put their guy over? Wow.
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Leatherface - Sat, 18 May 2019 23:12:52 EST ID:OHGk/Pfv No.6234668 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234629
>wanting a world champion of a company to just lose to a buddy of the promoter in a literal nothing match

nah PAC did the right thing here
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Hiroshi Tanahashi - Sat, 18 May 2019 23:26:38 EST ID:DpmzHgn8 No.6234669 Ignore Report Reply
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*exposes your fed*
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Alex Wright - Sat, 18 May 2019 23:29:17 EST ID:Xx5MphDd No.6234670 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234669
cody tried to be like his dad and have one of his boys go over an established star and he got big leagued for it
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Hieracon - Sat, 18 May 2019 23:38:08 EST ID:2oYJaLCh No.6234671 Ignore Report Reply
If the finish is the issue, and PAC is fine doing a DQ, why do they need to do the DQ in Britain rather than just doing it on the show?
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Hiroshi Tanahashi - Sat, 18 May 2019 23:41:39 EST ID:DpmzHgn8 No.6234672 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234671
AEW's rolling with the "wins and losses matter" meme that nobody actually cares about.
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Hieracon - Sat, 18 May 2019 23:48:46 EST ID:2oYJaLCh No.6234673 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234672
But surely they could just make the DQ matter as well. Do something to establish a heel.

If PAC is the heel, you could even play off the story a little and have him about to lose, but hit the ref or something rather than take the L.
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Anthony Nese - Sun, 19 May 2019 00:00:57 EST ID:iLe2GkB4 No.6234674 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234672
Vince pls
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Brian Hebner - Sun, 19 May 2019 00:20:41 EST ID:EvYXc0Fp No.6234681 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234672
yeah Goldberg would've been just as over if he lost every match on Nitro for his 3 debuting months
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Shane Storm - Sun, 19 May 2019 00:49:10 EST ID:ykkhl/vg No.6234689 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234666
The comparison in >>6234657 is apt though, this whole idea was taking an extreme approach to a minor problem. There are other ways to get a low-tier guy over besides having another promotion's world champ job to him, if that Cody's idea of "good booking" god help us all.
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Jay Lethal - Sun, 19 May 2019 01:03:51 EST ID:xI2yJwlY No.6234693 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232808
This, but unironically.
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Chri - Sun, 19 May 2019 01:06:43 EST ID:YFjC1yBh No.6234694 Ignore Report Reply
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Fuck yeah brand war shitposting is back on the menu boys.
also >based pac
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Chainz - Sun, 19 May 2019 09:04:29 EST ID:dYhrmb6W No.6234789 Ignore Report Reply
>>6232783
Schiavone's been doing commentary on MLW for the past year or two. Watch a promotion that actually needs the support, not this overblown hype train.
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Brian Hebner - Sun, 19 May 2019 09:29:24 EST ID:EvYXc0Fp No.6234800 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234789
>Court Bauer and ex-Prichard company
>needs the support

pass
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Johnny Gargano - Sun, 19 May 2019 09:42:21 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6234802 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234800
whats actually wrong with Court Bauer?
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Chuck Taylor - Sun, 19 May 2019 10:02:49 EST ID:eo/jd5H+ No.6234807 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234789
I really want to like MLW, but it's boring. It has that same generic feel that NXT and ROH's weekly shows have where it's just a collection of random indie guys with different styles doing the same old shit you've already seen done better elsewhere, and you know nothing that exciting is ever going to happen because it's taped, they have limited time, they can't push the envelope, and half of their stars are constantly being poached by WWE. It's not much better but I prefer Impact because they make some attempt to stand out a little bit with the hokey cinematic character development stuff. The Dark Allie stuff was so bad it was entertaining, and the street fight with all the LAX guys was a pretty cool fight scene. I'm really hoping that AEW's TV show isn't just generic super indie #999, but Kenny Omega saying they want to appeal to casual fans and create new wrestling fans gives me some hope that they will have a consistent look and tone that sets them apart from other products.
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Kota Ibushi - Sun, 19 May 2019 10:17:44 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6234810 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234802
He puts on a front by saying he wants to get along with other promotions on twitter. In reality, he is strongly suspected of sending faulty scoops about being “raided” by other promotions, among other shit I can’t remember at the moment and also has his talent on shitty contracts.

It waa nice to see ROH smack him by signing Rush away from MLW. Court had spread some “I heard” bullshit about ROH, which people here had believed because they wanted more reasons to hate Delirious, and because they don’t watch ROH TV.
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Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Sun, 19 May 2019 11:08:42 EST ID:aYdd1DeT No.6234820 Ignore Report Reply
>>6234619
Absolutely nothing of value lost. The card has improved vastly.


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