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Lucha Libre general - AAA King of North American 5.4 million viewers edition

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- Wed, 24 Apr 2019 21:13:17 EST GXHNtkkw No.6223673
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This thread is for general discussion of lucha libre.

>Lucha Tube is on Wednesdays at 3pm EDT / 8pm BST in /wooo/tube - http://www.taima.tv/r/wooo and shows the latest matches from CMLL, AAA, and Mexican indie scene.
>CMLL’s weekly shows air live on Mondays from Arena Puebla at 10pm EDT / 3am BST, Tuesdays from Arena Mexico at 8:30pm EDT / 1:30am BST and Fridays from Arena Mexico at 9:30pm EDT / 2:30am BST all in /wooo/tube 2 - http://www.taima.tv/r/wooo2
>Major CMLL and AAA events will be shown when scheduled in the tubes.

links for videos and stuff to follow

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 02-10-2019 16:48:44
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Apple Miyuki - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 21:15:24 EST GXHNtkkw No.6223676 Reply
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>News, Blogs, etc.
http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/
http://www.superluchas.com
http://www.luchaworld.com
https://twitter.com/luchablog

>Videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/thecubsfan
https://www.youtube.com/user/VideosOficialesCMLL
https://www.youtube.com/user/luchalibreaaatv
https://www.twitch.tv/luchalibreaaa
https://www.twitch.tv/Luchalibreaaa_En
https://www.youtube.com/user/iwrgtv
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCla6066rVh-DKVaPIBb9Fhw
https://www.youtube.com/user/mluchatv (interviews)
https://www.youtube.com/user/decadas80s90s2000/videos (classics)
https://www.youtube.com/user/LuDarKShAiTAN/videos (Lucha deathmatches if you're into that sort of thing)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCasSNrESALNEE_Wo_li4x7Q
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ0ehKC3JgZgC188wNYJUKg
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCI09oXbgaHIZH7S4_oPtzlQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFWO7jPvp7IiXWIM6ecXPyw/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvJeB8wCRpxUgunBp1q1gAw
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCslPOVdI3oU82jDiRjA9dUw
https://www.youtube.com/user/tvluchadelpasado/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsOHwKeYEF6kR7WKQlH4jXg
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYH6WKO3QoDVGxAcCkTFfsw
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0fulzd9dSB7cgU__I5BaGA
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJZdYE6i56PJOQg2Wyrn-xw
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaPXKpjwQUmYw4erRy2DpZA
https://www.youtube.com/user/rnrwrasslin/videos
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Apple Miyuki - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 21:18:37 EST GXHNtkkw No.6223678 Reply
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pretty sure credit for this goes to Mr Toad
>this Mega has 52 Santo films on it, all are subbed, with Santo in the Wax Museum and Santo vs. the Vampire Women also being dual audio with English dub tracks.
https://mega.nz/#F!kBpRGRSS!-qvllYVrFQaHj6WhsoeVsw
>Of note, I am missing Santo contra laMDKnegra (Santo vs. Black Magic, 1972) and Blue Demon contra el poder satánico (Blue Demon vs. Satanic Power, 1964) in subbed form. I am also missing the English dubs that were produced for Santo contra los zombis (Santo vs. the Zombies, 1961) a.k.a. Invasion of the Zombies and Santo contra el doctor Muerte (Santo vs. Dr. Death, 1973) a.k.a. Santo Strikes Again, a.k.a. The Masked Man Strikes Again. If anyone has these or any leads I would greatly appreciate it.
>I also made another mega with a few other miscellaneous Lucha movies.
https://mega.nz/#F!VJRlXCJa!x7mSswdJd8YHjsBWY3A00Q
>In here is:
>Santo in 'The Vampire and the Sex' (1969) (Santo en el Vampiro y el sexo; English Subtitles), which is just a re-editing of Santo en el tesoro de Drácula (Santo in "The Treasure of Dracula", 1968) with porn scenes in it. On that note, I am also missing the other porn edited Santo film, The Lepers and Sex, a re-editing of Santo contra los jinetes del terror (Santo vs. the Terror Riders, 1970) .
>Starfighters (Luchadores de las Estrellas) (1992) - a modern movie featuring a fictional masked Luchadora. Many real luchadores in it, like Satanico, Blue Demon Jr, Volador, Misterioso.
> Captain America and Santo vs. Spider-Man (1973) (Three Giant Men-3 Dev Adam) - Unlicensed Turkish film where Santo (not played by the real one) and Captain America fight a villainous Spider-Man.
> Wrestlemaniac (El Mascarado Massacre) (2006) - An English slasher movie where Rey Misterio Sr. plays a masked wrestler who kills horny teenagers.
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Tony Schiavone - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 21:50:38 EST FT7fbyfG No.6223686 Reply
AAA is great every time I have time to tune in though I could understand if people got tired of the Mercenarios clusterfucks after a while.
Just saw the Demon vs. Wagner vs. Parka episode, what else has been happening since Triplemania other that Mercenarios running wild I guess?
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Apple Miyuki - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 22:03:02 EST GXHNtkkw No.6223688 Reply
>>6223686
Jeff Jarrett's still been showing up despite supposedly being with WWE, to the point that he was on the same show as Cody and the Bucks.
Remember how Triplemania set up for LA Park vs Dr Wagner jr? Yeah nah we have always been setting up for Wagner vs Blue Demon jr, you're clearly mistaken. So that's now where they're heading for Triplemania as a hair vs mask. spoilers from the last couple of twitch shows, not sure how much has been aired on youtube
Nino Hamburgesa and Big Mami haven't been doing so good as a couple with drama around him. OGTs dressed up like superheroes and looked very silly. Young Bucks took the tag belts from Lucha Bros with the crowd giving an impressive lack of fucks for a Mexican crowd. Killer Kross still kills a bunch of guys
Also the English commentary has been surprisingly not shit last two shows.
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Tony Schiavone - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 22:06:26 EST FT7fbyfG No.6223689 Reply
>>6223678
Really disappointed how there isn't nearly enough modern ones.
You'd think Mistico and Cibernetico would have had some during the peak of their 00's popularity.
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Apple Miyuki - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 22:25:28 EST GXHNtkkw No.6223691 Reply
>>6223689
there's a couple with Fantasma jr, which wiki says is the cousin of Hijo Del Fantasma, they seem to be tongue-in-cheek, since Fantasma sr makes an appearance as a divine vision from the heavens despite still being alive
I think Alberto El Patron did a few in his Dos Caras jr days
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Xavier - Thu, 25 Apr 2019 14:50:29 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6223990 Reply
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>based and Impact-pilled
>based and MLW-pilled
>based and AroLucha-pilled

NO. 1 PROMOTION IN NORTH AMERICA BABY. MSG HERE WE COME!
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Apple Miyuki - Thu, 25 Apr 2019 19:37:59 EST GXHNtkkw No.6224116 Reply
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>>6223990
so is ELITE related to Liga Elite, the group that worked out of Arena Mexico and had _that_ Park/Rush match
also I don't think there's any live streaming of the Elite Gladiators things, is there?
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Terry Funk - Mon, 29 Apr 2019 11:57:56 EST GXHNtkkw No.6225559 Reply
>>6225535
I wouldn't mind if the LU belts end up lurking in the shadows of pro wrestling independent of the actual promotion's existence or lack thereof, like the old NWA belts
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Dos Caras - Mon, 29 Apr 2019 17:00:02 EST BlrIoG3o No.6225684 Reply
>It appears Lucha Underground’s tough year is about to get even tougher. Only a month after El Rey Network and Baba-G Productions (LU’s network and production company respectively) settled a class action lawsuit with El Hijo del Fantasma, Ivelisse, Joey Ryan and Kobra Moon (Thunder Rosa), another trip to court seems in the works.

>Lucha Central has learned that LU performers Matanza Cueto (Ring of Honor star Jeff Cobb), Famous B and XO Lishus (All Elite Wrestling’s Sonny Kiss) have all sought legal representation in order to get their release from the promotion.

>The biggest shock of these names is Cobb, mostly because we’ve all assumed that Cobb received his release from Lucha Underground after season four, when his character was killed off in the Ultima Lucha finale. Despite that, and signing a one year deal with Ring of Honor this past fall, sources tell Lucha Central that LU higher ups have continued to insist he is under contract with them, and have even gone as far to try and block him from working Ring of Honor.

>There is no word on the situations regarding Famous B or Sonny Kiss, who is scheduled to debut for AEW at Double or Nothing as part of the Over Budget Battle Royal. Though it’s possible Lucha Underground may try to block him from working with AEW following the show, Kiss’ appearance at Double or Nothing doesn’t seem to be in jeopardy.

>Lucha Central can also confirm that, while he hasn’t officially sought legal representation at this time, Willie Mack will likely be joining these three in trying to get out of his LU contract as well. Speculation about Mack’s future has been rampant after he dropped the NWA National Championship to Colt Cabana this past Saturday at NWA’s Crockett Cup and posted a cryptic tweet about having to pick a side.

>Update: So Cal Uncensored has revealed on Twitter that Lucha Underground (through Dorian Roldan) has threatened to send a Cease and Desist to both Ring of Honor and the NWA due to them using Willie Mack at recent events, indicating further that Mack is likely to try and get his release alongside Cobb, Kiss and Famous B.
https://luchacentral.com/lucha-central-exclusive-three-more-lucha-underground-talents-seek-release-a-fourth-expected/
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April Hunter - Mon, 29 Apr 2019 17:11:55 EST bWZ+YR1t No.6225689 Reply
Fuckboi Dorian at it again. I'm an unapologetic LU fanboy but I recognized him as a cancer a long time ago.

Also how the fuck could you justify keeping Cobb from working as a completely different persona, his real fucking name, when you killed off his character? Unreal. These bastards have sabotaged such a fun show with such promise.

I want LU back more than anything in wrestling, but with the people in charge, maybe it's better if it stays dead.
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April Hunter - Mon, 29 Apr 2019 17:21:21 EST bWZ+YR1t No.6225690 Reply
>>6225688
I talk about this story all the time on here, but I went to the LU panel at NYCC in 2016.

He's a smug cunt of a man and it just comes through in person. I haven't watched it in years but so many things were talked about and the future seemed so bright and it just burnt out.

If anyone wants to see it, here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yez5dvt2sZw

Also, a reminder that Dorian's LLC was put in charge of licensing and all that happened on that front is the LU store some shirts on Walmart's and Hot Topic's sites.

No figures, games (even a shitty mobile game), not even goddamn Pop Vinyls. And the official DVD's are trash and there's no Blu-Rays and this show would've been perfect for the deluxe box set treatment. Throw in a few dark matches, behind the scenes vignettes, etc.

It's just so fucking disappointing. I wish another Tony Khan would come along and save this shit and kick Dorian to the curb.
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Tim Donst - Wed, 01 May 2019 20:46:45 EST BlrIoG3o No.6226760 Reply
>>6225684
>Jeff Cobb will be released from his Lucha Underground contract soon, according to Lucha Central.

>Cobb, Famous B and Sonny Kiss (XO Lishus) were all seeking legal representation earlier this week to secure their release from their LUG contracts. Willie Mack was also rumored to be seeking legal representation after Lucha Underground blocked him from taking bookings with the NWA and Ring of Honor. An agreement has been reached that will see Cobb get his release, but it hasn't been signed by all parties as of today, according to the report. Lucha Central added that once Cobb's release is official, the releases for Famous B and Kiss should follow.

>Cobb, who came to Lucha Underground as Matanza Cueto in 2015, reportedly believed that he was already free from his Lucha Underground contract. He was apparently written off TV at Ultima Lucha IV and then indicated he had been released after signing a contract with ROH. Lucha Central reported that certain Lucha Underground officials had tried to block Cobb from working for ROH, insisting he was still signed.

>Cobb currently holds the ROH World Television Title, the New Japan Pro Wrestling NEVER Openweight Title and the Pro Wrestling Guerrilla World Title. Cobb will likely be with ROH for the foreseeable future.

>Lucha Underground recently saw four other talents take extra measures to get out of their contracts - Joey Ryan, Ivelisse Velez, El Hijo del Fantasma and Kobra Moon (Thunder Rosa).
https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2019/05/top-talent-to-be-released-from-lucha-underground-deal-soon-653684/
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Greg Iron - Fri, 03 May 2019 11:58:29 EST yq4Iib5P No.6227471 Reply
>>6227464
rey fenix almost did this off a ladder ON THE RAMP at the last impact ppv lol. tucked at the literal last possible second.
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Dustin Diamond - Sun, 05 May 2019 15:57:50 EST GXHNtkkw No.6228403 Reply
apparently Mas Lucha is saying Mascara is out of AAA and back with Ingobernables on the indies
wonder if they'll keep Mercanarios around at this point
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 14 May 2019 09:35:39 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6232317 Reply
Speaking of Dorian Roldan, here's an interview he just did - https://superluchas.com/entrevista-con-dorian-roldan-lucha-libre-aaa-de-cara-al-futuro/. If you don't want to read that, here's a summary of it from cubsfan:

>SuperLuchas has a wide-reaching interview with Dorian Roldan, from the TV Azteca offices. That location, and recent SuperLuchas articles reporting much lower ratings that it seemed AAA & TV Azteca were reporting suggested it be an interview focusing on that subject. It turns out those numbers really never directly come up, though a lot of other things about AAA’s TV. This is one where you’re better reading it for yourself; I’m going to summarize what I can here. The most interesting part to me was the extended history of AAA’s TV deals. Let me try to condense it into a timeline:

  • 1992: Antonio Pena & Televisa start a lucha libre promotion. They initially want to call it OILL (Oraganizacion Internacional de Lucha Libre) but eventually decide to use “Asistencia, Asesoria, Administracion de Espectaculos”, a name Televisa had used for other projects. Televisa pays Pena for the TV rights but gets to sell sponsorships. Televisa also takes care of production.
  • 1995: Mexico economy craters and Televisa wants to get out of AAA. Pena creates Promociones Antonio Pena as a separate entity and it buys full control of AAA. Somewhere in here, Televisa stops paying Pena rights for the TV but gives Pena the power to sell sponsorship rights (so he’s the one making the money off the Corona logo at this point.)
  • 2000-ish: Televisa tells AAA that they’re no longer paying for production and it is up to AAA to pay for it. AAA rents a production unit from MVS.
  • 2002: AAA decides to stop renting production and buy their own in-house production equipment. Televisa’s only role at this point is to air the show, and they dictate how long that show will be. (CMLL also had to pay for production by this point.)
  • 2008: WWE comes to Televisa and TV Azteca. Things go really well for a while.
  • 2013: things are going less well for WWE & Televisa. The ratings have tanked and Televisa decides to get rid of wrestling from their broadcast channels. All wrestling, which means AAA & CMLL need to go too, though they could continue on the TDN cable station. This decision is made around September of the year. Dorian Roldan meets with Televisa executives, tells them he’s got sponsorships thru the end of the year dependent on AAA being on broadcast TV and asks for a reprieve until December to figure something out.
  • 2013-2016: Televisa allows AAA to buy TV time to keep their slot. Roldan says AAA was making the most money at this point by selling sponsorships for broadcast TV, so it made sense to do what they had to keep that air time. Roldan says CMLL made at least one attempt to get back on Televisa, only to find out they would be required to pay for TV time as well and pass.
  • 2017: AAA wants to get on Univision (US), but Roldan is not confident AAA looked good enough to get picked up because their production unit is outdated. AAA decides to not only to pay Televisa for TV time but also pay them to produce the AAA show. AAA’s deal with Univision does not get done and they see no improvement in Mexico.
  • 2018: AAA has done good numbers with their TripleMania specials for two years. This seems like a good thing. Televisa apparently is not impressed. They raise the rate they’re charging AAA for TV time. Roldan talks to TV Azteca, who with they share some prominent sponsors and decides to make the move.
  • 2019: AAA debuts on TV Azteca. TV Azteca is paying AAA a rights fee. Televisa reacts and brings back CMLL (and is believed to be paying them a rights fee.)

>There’s a lot of other big pictures thoughts in here. Dorian Roldan feels WWE has made Mexico and Latin America a low priority and doesn’t see them as a big threat domestically to AAA. He welcomes the idea of WWE trying a NXT Mexico but does not think they’d do well, that there’s not a fan base big enough to support them without WWE being on strong broadcast TV and that an NXT Mexico show wouldn’t get that TV deal either. Roldan sees the wrestling fans of Mexico split three ways:

  • 5% are the hardcores who follow everything super closely, know the AEW guys and NJPW.
  • 45% know the difference between AAA & CMLL but aren’t more knowledgable than that.
  • 50% have so little knowledge that go to an Arena Mexico show thinking they’re seeing AAA

>Dorian Roldan’s big goal still is the United States, feeling there’s just so much money to be made there (and holding up the Mexican National Team playing in the US as proof.) He also feels like, by going after the Hispanic market, he won’t be as directly competing with WWE as AEW might be. The Madison Square Garden show will determine how strong they go in that path forward. AAA was not expecting to sell out like AEW show, believing the Hispanic market isn’t going to buy tickets that far in advance, but feels like they’ve done well given how little noise they’ve made so far. AAA plans on making a lot more noise.

>The thing that’s going to get the most noise from this interview is Dorian Roldan talking about the meetings he’s had with various other heads of companies. Roldan mentions speaking with Joe Koff (Ring of Honor), Ed Norholm (Impact Wrestling) and Billy Corgan (National Wrestling Alliance) over WrestleMania weekend. Roldan pushes the idea that even though they’re competitors, they should be building bridges to work together. “You need a talent, I have another talent signed with Lucha Underground, what are we fighting for?” In Roldan’s telling of it, he got Willie Mack to appear for the NWA and the Lucha Brothers to appear for AEW. That’s a completely opposite version of the Mack/NWA story from what’s been told by Mack and other people involved, where AAA/LU/Roldan was threatening legal action if the NWA (& ROH) continued to use Willie Mack. I tend to believe Mack’s side of this story and wonder what pieces are missing from Roldan’s side.

>There’s a lot more here – you can read yourself about Roldan’s thoughts about an AAA/CMLL show, about wrestling in Monterrey (“I do not know a place in the world where promoters fright mone – there they strive to see who loses the most money”) and about egos in general.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 14-05-2019 09:37:49
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Madison Eagles - Tue, 14 May 2019 11:32:50 EST nVBpeOcB No.6232345 Reply
>>6232317
>In Roldan’s telling of it, he got Willie Mack to appear for the NWA and the Lucha Brothers to appear for AEW.

What a load of bullshit.
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Adam Bomb - Sun, 19 May 2019 22:39:54 EST GXHNtkkw No.6235261 Reply
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bumping for that person in the twitch chat who wanted Psycho Clown's music
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Rizokahn - Sun, 19 May 2019 22:44:54 EST hTSUcuhc No.6235270 Reply
>>6232317
Dorian Roldan is full of BS. If it wasn't for the fact that several wrestlers and producers of LU stated that what was holding up releases was him, he wouldn't be trying to cover his ass with blatant lies.
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Teddy Long - Wed, 22 May 2019 12:47:20 EST GXHNtkkw No.6236741 Reply
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Blue Demon jr's stuff with Pagano on the indies has got me more interested in Demon/Wagner than I previously was
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 30 May 2019 14:12:41 EST UveV14Hw No.6242193 Reply
>WrestlingInc posted an interview with Dorian Roldan, mostly about the AAA/MSG show, which hasn’t been talked about since the tickets went on sale three weeks ago. The article transcribes most of it, the interview on the podcast itself starts at 59:00. For our purposes, the big news is the show is not planned to stream on Twitch. Roldan says it wasn’t part of the package of shows for Twitch. It doesn’t sound as though Twitch won’t take it, but that they think they have a better ability to put in on TV (in Mexico & the US) if it’s not on Twitch.

>Dorian is open to working with talent from other promotions for talent on their show but none are specifically confirmed at being part of this card at this point. They’re also open to working with “people who used to be in AAA before and are really important to the Mexican fans.” Johnny Mundo technically fits that category, but it also sure sounds like the LA Park signal. Roldan says the card will have something for every type of fan and they’ve partnered with radio stations to promote those shows. Roldan also attended the NJPW/ROH show at MSG with other AAA people to get an idea of the production required.

>AAA is still set at running other shows (and slow ticket sales for MSG don’t come up at all here.) A second show is planned to be announced soon. That’s probably the Los Angeles one that was previously reported. AAA is hoping to run 10 shows in the US next summer, which is hard to believe. Roldan gives credit to the company they’re with on this, Oak View Group, for setting up deals with venus and sponsors and even TV.

Sucks it's not gong to be on Twitch, would have been cool if it were.
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Ladder - Thu, 30 May 2019 14:48:26 EST BlrIoG3o No.6242216 Reply
>>6242193
makes sense that its not on Twitch, AAA at MSG, like Triplemania, is PPV worthy.

It was noted at the press conference back in April when they announced the show that Ed Nordholm was there. I wonder if Impact/Anthem would help with producing it as a PPV in exchange for getting talent on the show/getting it co-streamed on Impact Plus or something.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 30 May 2019 14:55:09 EST UveV14Hw No.6242223 Reply
>>6242216
Fair enough, it is a big enough show to do on PPV and sell it in the United States.
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Naomichi Marufuji - Thu, 30 May 2019 16:58:16 EST D3oUvVtx No.6242312 Reply
>>6242223
I wonder what the price point will be after all the outrage over the $50 price for Double or Nothing.
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Little Fiji - Sun, 02 Jun 2019 00:11:40 EST GXHNtkkw No.6243510 Reply
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was there ever an ID made on Chessman's Arena Mexico Logo costume?
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Sojournor Bolt - Sun, 02 Jun 2019 05:42:18 EST RHbsK6aP No.6243566 Reply
Question about the AAA twitch channel. They broadcast old shows 24/7 but I've noticed that they seem to skip showing most of 2009 and 2010, any reason why they do this?
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Deuce - Mon, 03 Jun 2019 12:56:38 EST BlrIoG3o No.6244361 Reply
>>6243566
Its my understanding that AAA doesn't have the rights to its entire TV library and some of it belongs to Televisa.

(this goes for their PlutoTV channel too)

does anyone know what AAA owns and what belongs to Televisa?
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Milano Collection A.T. - Wed, 05 Jun 2019 20:35:43 EST GXHNtkkw No.6246004 Reply
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https://www.milenio.com/policia/octagon-podra-conservara-nombre-artistico-fuera-del-cuadrilatero
http://archive.fo/dKUec
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.milenio.com%2Fpolicia%2Foctagon-podra-conservara-nombre-artistico-fuera-del-cuadrilatero
http://archive.fo/iYdhF
>Octagon wins fight ... but in the Court
seems Mexico Supreme Court says the Octagon name belongs to Octagon and not AAA
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Milano Collection A.T. - Thu, 06 Jun 2019 10:56:46 EST GXHNtkkw No.6246217 Reply
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mr niebla high spot gif from cubsfan
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Jack Evans - Sun, 09 Jun 2019 17:52:21 EST GXHNtkkw No.6248458 Reply
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holy shit that ad on Estrellas Del Ring's videos is great
at least I get an idea how to make the tasty thing unlike CMLL's great-looking food but I don't know anything about making it
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Val Venis - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 15:15:34 EST BlrIoG3o No.6250008 Reply
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>Former WWE Champion Alberto El Patron (Alberto Del Rio) is heading a new promotion called Nacion Lucha Libre. The promotion was announced at a press conference on Tuesday afternoon. Above is video from the presser, courtesy of +LuchaTV.

>The new promotion will launch on Thursday, July 11 with a show at Sala de Armas in Mexico City, Mexico. That event and future NLL events will air on Saturdays from 10:30pm CST until midnight on the ImageTV network, according to Lucha Central. The first show will air on Saturday, July 13, two days after it tapes in Mexico City.

>A poster is advertising the following matches for the July 11 show. It's interesting to note that former WWE Superstar MVP is listed on Team Puerto Rico in the PR vs. Team Mexico six-man main event.

>Team Mexico (Alberto El Patron, Dr. Wagner Jr., El Hijo del Fantasma) vs. Team Puerto Rico (MVP, El Mesias, Apolo)
>Rey Fenix and Pentagon Jr. vs. Chavo Guerrero Jr. and Mecha Wolf 450
>Damian 666 vs. El Solar vs. Negro Navarro vs. El Canek
>Fresero Jr. and Mr. Iguana vs. Bestia 666 and Black Taurus vs. The Laredo Kid and The Tiger
>Flamita and Daga vs. Rey Horus and Puma King
>Sexy Star, Lady Flammer, Reina Oscura vs. Thunder Rosa, Cristy Jaynes, Stephanie Vaquer
> Bram, La Mascara, Batab El Guerrero vs. Hijo de Dos Caras, Hijo de Wagner, Dual
>Relampago vs Heddi Karaoui

>Former WWE manager Ricardo Rodriguez is listed as a referee for the promotion. A tribute to Dos Caras and Tinieblas is also advertised for the first event.
https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2019/06/details-on-new-nacion-lucha-libre-promotion-with-alberto-el-655122/
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Grizzly Redwood - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 19:16:19 EST GXHNtkkw No.6250123 Reply
>>6250008
cubsfan has a good rundown of why to give no fucks about this beyond a single show that might be a nice random one-off mexindy
obviously the big one is
>alberto
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Torrie Wilson - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 21:44:39 EST GXHNtkkw No.6250538 Reply
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I vaguely recall Dave The Clown being entertaining on some dumb celebrity studio game show
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Johnny Gargano - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 13:46:56 EST BlrIoG3o No.6251454 Reply
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>Impact Wrestling’s Scarlett Bordeaux got groped by a fan who was sitting at ringside yesterday during the AAA Conquista Total Gira 2019 live event which took place from Plaza de Toros in Cancun, Mexico. The show aired live on Twitch.

>Bordeaux was in a six-woman tag match along with Lady Shani and Taya Valkyrie as they took on Chik Tormenta, La Hiedra and Tessa Blanchard. At one point during the match, the action spilled to the outside and next to the fans. As Bordeaux was getting back up on her feet, a fan at ringside grabbed her from behind, pulled her towards him and began touching her inappropriately. At that point, Lady Shani pulled her away from the man and the match continued.

>A member of the security staff was right next to them but did not intervene.

>You can watch what happened below.
https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/1140084449301995520
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John Morrison - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 14:25:15 EST 4ZbNJAFJ No.6251460 Reply
>>6251454

>a member of security was right next to them but did not intervene

What a fucking piece of shit.
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Joel Maximo - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 16:27:33 EST GXHNtkkw No.6251487 Reply
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lol he doesn't even grab her tits what a nerd
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Blue Demon - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 16:45:44 EST lOqkUKds No.6251491 Reply
>>6251454

>groped
>all those replies

Fucks sake, a drunk fan gave her a hug I'm sure she will survive.
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Diamond Dallas Page - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:14:45 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6251500 Reply
I guess pimps ITT don't even know what grope means

>fondle (someone) for sexual pleasure roughly or clumsily, or without the person's consent.
>without the person's consent
>without
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Joel Maximo - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:18:25 EST GXHNtkkw No.6251501 Reply
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it's like first he grabs her arm and she rolls into him. I assume it's like that old wcw clip of whoever brawling into the crowd, then a kid whaps him on the back or whatever and he sells like normal not noticing who's behind him?
I can try to knock out a clip, but yeah he's a little handsy for sure but in the grand scheme of
>Mexico
yeah this ain't shit
I would basically expect Kross to just kick the shit out of him after the show and consider it settled, but he might be sped in the head, too
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Ahmed Johnson - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:30:20 EST g7Phkn72 No.6251506 Reply
If I can't do it in America to her they shouldn't be able to do it in Mexico

It's just not fair damn it
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Joel Maximo - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 19:07:06 EST GXHNtkkw No.6251522 Reply
english chat on twitch autobans "The Crash" but not "CMLL"
or maybe Garza but probably not
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Blackjack Lanza - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 23:22:52 EST GXHNtkkw No.6251589 Reply
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I want to play a console RPG with these designs
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Rodney Mack - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 00:47:25 EST IX5coWMM No.6251598 Reply
>>6251460
Shani stepped between them and the security guard to deal with it herself immediately. What do you think the guard should have done?
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Dino Bravo - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 05:51:23 EST ezz88rJR No.6251645 Reply
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>>6251454
Grope is a bit of an extreme term for this. Touching the female talent is probably always a bad idea though.

It's funny that nobody is making a big issue of a woman straight up smacking Daga's ass when he was in the crowd.
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Sonjay Dutt - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 10:42:03 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6251684 Reply
>>6251504
never
that's what I was getting at since the two posters above me were arguing against the use of the word grope
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El Dandy - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 23:28:56 EST GXHNtkkw No.6253759 Reply
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I miss that skeleton-vision thing
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El Dandy - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 01:24:10 EST GXHNtkkw No.6253784 Reply
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NEVER MIND ALL OTHER SHIT
AYAKO HAMADA IS ANNOUNCED FOR AN IN-RING RETURN
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
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El Dandy - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 01:48:15 EST GXHNtkkw No.6253791 Reply
>>6253787
yeah I'm pretty sure she got popped in Japan for stims
iirc she did her time, moved back to Mexico, and had alluded to a return in an interview or two
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El Dandy - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 01:50:24 EST GXHNtkkw No.6253792 Reply
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so hear me out
>Daga running down PDM yet again
>Perros hits
>Ayako smashes a light tube on him to defend the honor of PDM
>hair vs hair at Triplemania
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Madison Eagles - Sun, 23 Jun 2019 17:33:30 EST GXHNtkkw No.6254721 Reply
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Atlantis is champion of Trashville!
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Madison Eagles - Sun, 23 Jun 2019 17:34:17 EST GXHNtkkw No.6254722 Reply
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live from the Trashville Zone
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 08:27:25 EST UveV14Hw No.6256840 Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Ricky Steamboat - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 09:36:58 EST GXHNtkkw No.6256882 Reply
>>6256840
>Pagano
>Lider
>Nick Gage
I got hep just from looking at that card
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Lex Luger - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 13:25:01 EST GXHNtkkw No.6259017 Reply
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>Templar in the Catholic charity wrestling
3deep5me
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 15:51:50 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6260547 Reply
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TripleMania card is out
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Little Fiji - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 10:23:54 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6261915 Reply
>>6260547
>>6260547
>Like every other AAA TV taping with a listed start time of 8 pm, it will stream live in English & Spanish on Twitch. It will also air live on Space (as it did last year) and at least part of it will air live on TV Azteca.

>As I wrote yesterday, AAA’s choice for TripleMania was either to tell a lot of people they’re not going to have a spot or to make a lot of nonsensical multiman person matches to squeeze everyone in. AAA – and most every other wrestling promotion on the planet – is going to choose the “more people” option. AAA’s also a promotion that has decided the best way to build up the biggest show of the year is at press conferences and those press conferences operate with a separate series of storylines. What happens on AAA TV matters, it just doesn’t matter all that much for TripleMania. It’s been this way for years now and it’s been successful enough that it won’t be changing any time soon.

>Whenever people with AAA said things like “Aerostar vs Monster Clown might happen at TripleMania!”, they were lying, even if they didn’t realize they were doing it at that time. This kind of lineup is what TripleMania is and will be for the foreseeable future. This can be an immensely frustrating part of following AAA but is as part of it as the heel referee spots. For the people who just come in to AAA once a year, they want a strange Mexican variety wrestling show and they are always getting that show.

>That’s where my expectations were coming into this card: this would be using AAA talent but in ways that may not match up with anything. I think it’s a good card all considered. I like the trios match at Fyter Fest and definitely, don’t have a problem seeing it again in front of a Mexican audience. The fifth match is a freak show match that actually might be good; I trust Taurus, Texano and what sure sounded like Killer Kross to be able to go along with whatever the tecnicos want to do. It’s going to be weird but it seems like it should work and I have more belief in the Cain Velazquez match working than I did initially.

>The women’s match getting a TLC stipulation is completely random. AAA always has a gimmick attached to a match for no particular reason and this is that. It is also a reminder that we shouldn’t have cared all that much about Keyra winning the title at Verano de Escandalo. It is nice for her to get to be champion but she’s not going to anything meaningful with it before this match, and the TripleMania is always going to end up in a multi-women match where who comes in with the belt doesn’t have much of an advantage. The 3-way trios match would be a better quality match with just two teams in and the mixed tag story would be better with just the important people, but adding people onto matches is what TripleMania is. At some point, everyone but Mami, Maravilla, and Hamburguesa will be out on the floor and they’ll have their moment anyway.

>Rey Escorpion, Killer Kross, and Daga are the three names that jumped out to me as people missing from this show. Daga’s got a title match with Drago on Saturday that I was sure he was winning; now I’m not so sure he’s really in AAA’s plans. Rey Escorpion’s heroic scheme to work his way into an apuesta feud with Psycho Clown seems to be delayed. Kross has been famously been left off the TripleMania card the last two years and my strong presumption is he came back to AAA again under the impression he would definitely get something this year. I can’t believe they’d do it again. All three guys could theoretically be the mystery man teaming with Texano and Taurus but that would still mean two of them are in Copa TripleMania or left off entirely. Alberto el Patron might also be the mystery man if not for his recent AAA issues. There’s no indication of when AAA might reveal that name; you’d think it would happen at an upcoming TV event but again this show is disconnected from TV.

>I didn’t want to see Pagano/Chessman and I didn’t want to see Faby/Tirantes and I don’t have to see again. The lack of Pagano/extreme match on the show is probably the most surprising match decision, as AAA has steadfastly used those on big shows a way to make themselves distinct from WWE & CMLL. Perhaps some elements from that will come up in the Copa TripleMania.

>Fenix will officially go one full AAA calendar year without defending the AAA megachampionship in AAA. (He did defend it in GALLI, I was there.) It feels like there should be a Mega title defense on this show, but it also doesn’t matter. The title is devoid of meaning and has been even since before Fenix had it. A single TripleMania title match isn’t going to fix that, because it didn’t fix it last year. It makes more sense to throw Fenix in the best match you can get a finish out of. Omega/Fenix might have been more interesting but I don’t think AAA or AEW can get to a good finish out of that right now. A rematch of the trios match will be good, though makes me wonder what exactly was booked for this spot before Verano de Escandalo.

>AAA started this year with a press conference announcing the Demon/Wagner match, and saying TripleMania would have eight matches. Those would be six big main events, a Copa Triplemania, and Llave a la Gloria match. A lot can happen between January and July. I was still waiting for them to mention the Llave a la Gloria match as an aside when the press conference ended; that’s how they handled it last year.
http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2019/07/02/triplemania-xxvii-card-revealed-aaa-gdl-venue-change-alberto-mma/
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Little Fiji - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 10:24:50 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6261916 Reply
>>6261915
>Anyone who subscribes to Twitch starting July 4th gets TripleMania included. If you can afford to throw AAA $5 a month, I think you’re going to want to watch that show without commercial interruptions. If you’re an American with holiday plans tonight, you could watch this show on-demand later, get the next two AAA shows and TripleMania for one price.

>think the best card change idea I saw was Dylan from Lucha Talk suggesting just swapping Laredo Kid and Vikingo, which give the trios match AEW wanted to do but couldn’t and make it not a straight rematch of a few weeks ago. It’d be a waste for Laredo Kid to be dropped into a match about the exoticos but it is also a waste to have the six other guys in there. I do wonder if AAA will end up airing the Fyter Fest match, as they did the Double or Nothing this past week.

>I’m still wondering on the mystery guy. If it was meant to be Daga or Rey Escorpion, there would be no mystery about it. I’d say the same thing about Kross, though I could see AAA believing they needed to do (and could do) some big angle to heat him up and move him on from Puma King first. The easiest answer is probably simply “AAA hasn’t decided yet” and thinking about this is a bad use of time. I am all about bad uses of time and my mind has drifted to “you know, Jack Swagger/Jake Strong has a connection here and has MMA experience, that’d be something AAA would totally do” and “San Luis Potosi is Alberto’s hometown and even though he’s not on good terms with AAA that can change quick.” Please send help.

>Dorian Roldan noted that August 3rd was Joaquin Roldan’s birthday and says that is why they picked the date this year.

>Psycho Clown explained that he originally wanted to fight Cain Velazquez, then got to know him and decided he’s a great person. Psycho says Velazquez has come to Mexico City to train and he’s going to San Jose to train and it seems like a good idea to be a team.

>People who have not blocked last year’s TripleMania out of their mind may remember Vampiro and Konnan set up a match where the loser had to leave AAA. That match isn’t happening at TripleMania. It doesn’t need to. Vampiro didn’t lose a match but remains out of AAA. Either it happened on good terms or there’s still a connection there because Vampiro hasn’t said a single bad word about AAA, but he’s off doing his own thing. There’s really not been a mention of Konnan wrestling again any time soon, though I suspect that may change when he returns to MLW this weekend. Konnan said he’d like to do a retirement tour next year while admitting he’s been saying this for the last two years.
http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2019/07/03/cavernario-lee-challenged-for-next-tuesday-aaa-in-slp-tonight-triplemania/
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Hernandez - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 11:24:26 EST BlrIoG3o No.6262856 Reply
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July 19 Viernes Espectacular De Arena Mexico is going to be FUCKING LIT

>Stop 1 on the Jushin Thunder Lyger Mexico retirement tour is a trios match on 07/18, teaming with Mistico and Valiente against Caristico, Titan and Bandido.

>CMLL has announced that Jushin Liger’s final opponents for the promotion on 7/19 will be Negro Casas, Ultimo Guerrero and Caristico in a fatal four-way match. Only two men are allowed in the ring at once and competitors must tag in and out to enter and exit.

>On today’s CMLL Informa program, which is the promotion’s weekly news talk show which airs every Wednesday around 4pm EST, the promotion announced that LA Park will be returning to the July 19th show which is a farewell show featuring the final CMLL appearance of the legendary Jushin Thunder Liger. Park won’t be coming alone, however, as he will be joined by his sons, El Hijo de LA Park, and LA Park Jr., to take on Bestia del Ring, Mistico and his longtime rival, RUSH, which will no doubt continue the bitter feud between these two men.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 12:49:46 EST UveV14Hw No.6262880 Reply
>>6262856
So Four Corner Survival rules? Should be a good match. Looks like this will be CMLL's big supercard for this month then.
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Jerry Lynn - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 22:14:20 EST yJEPrhUO No.6263175 Reply
>>6263171
Yeah, he was the grandson of CMLL's founder Salvador Lutteroth & had been running the promotion since 1987.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 23:39:33 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6263218 Reply
>>6263090
Fuck that's unfortunate. Who would be next in line to succeed him now? His daughter?
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Sho Funaki - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 00:15:50 EST GXHNtkkw No.6263235 Reply
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Marisela Pena (head of AAA the rival company) paying respects
http://archive.fo/7PRPI
>>6263218
cubsfan says in front it's Sofia, unclear behind the scenes. Apparently the previous head, Paco's father is still alive?
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Chris Benoit - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:29:12 EST BlrIoG3o No.6264539 Reply
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LMAO RIP Alberto
>Campbell Mclaren, CEO of Combate Americas, confirmed the much anticipated event between MMA legend Tito Ortiz (20-12-1) and WWE champion, Alberto Del Río (9-5), during an interview with Gonzalo Campos in Spain.

>Alberto Del Rio is the two-time champion of the WWE and is considered one of the best wrestlers in the world. He returns to the world of MMA after a nine year hiatus.

>Del Rio competed for nine years in mixed martial arts on various platforms, including the Japanese organization PRIDE. The Mexican fighter obtained nine victories as a mixed martial artist, seven of them by submission and two by way of knockout.

>These two superstars will face off for the first time in ‘La Jaula.’

>There are currently no other details confirmed for the fight.
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Danny Basham - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:49:56 EST ZthAohAl No.6264549 Reply
>>6264539
tbh Dos Caras Jr in MMA was lots of fun. I hope he brings back the mask.
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Kimberly Page - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 15:47:35 EST d/XjW4Vg No.6264784 Reply
>>6264659
I am very much anticipating it. You don't get these early to mid 2000s JMMA looking ass fights every day.
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Mima Shimoda - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 17:12:11 EST pTVF9S1w No.6264821 Reply
>>6264666
>>6264784

It's going to be garbage though. Tito doesn't take fights he can't win, he fought a crippled Chuck Liddell for fucks sake. Unless they agree to make it a work for a round or two Tito is winning in 30 seconds or less.

I love a good MMA freak show, but this won't be one of those.
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The Weedman - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 17:15:26 EST U28QmYT+ No.6264825 Reply
I hope del Rio wears his mask during the fight
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Chris Benoit - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 17:53:31 EST BlrIoG3o No.6264854 Reply
>>6264821
but think of all the shit talking Alberto is going to do *before* the fight and then think of all the excuses he's going to make *after* the fight
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The Great Kabuki - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 22:06:55 EST GXHNtkkw No.6264955 Reply
>>6264949
following up here's a copypasta
>
>
>JCR interviewed Sofia Alonso before CMLL Informa.
>
>JCR, like Atlantis, mentioned that all the CMLL luchadores when they went to the ring to do the moment of applause thought they were doing it again for Perro Aguayo. They did not know Paco Alonso had passed away.
>Sofia Alonso said on Friday night (July 5th), her father (Paco Alonso) fainted. Her mom called an ambulance. He suffered cardiac respiratory arrest while being taken to the hospital. He passed away early Saturday.
>
>Sofia & her mom made the decision that since her dad lived a private life, that they would handle the news of his passing & other proceedings in private only telling family & close friends.
>They kept the news quiet of Paco Alonso's passing for 24 hours before letting everyone know during the Sunday Arena Mexico show.
>
>Sofia Alonso announces that she will now be the CMLL Director and be in charge of the promotion. She said this was not how she wanted to take over, worst possible way and she gained this position by losing someone she truly loved, her father.
>
>JCR asked Sofia Alonso now that she is in charge what are the plans for CMLL moving forward. She wants to consolidate and have more solidarity throughout all the departments within CMLL. She wants to keep all the good aspects of CMLL.
>Sofia said that her father, Paco Alonso, left them all a great responsibility and they all must do their best to uphold that.
>
>Sofia Alonso said her plan isn't to start some "new era" or change radically. She wants to conserve what her father did and the good things that are done in CMLL. Little by little they will develop in areas where there might be opportunities down the road. #CMLL

>Sofia Alonso wants to continue to conserve the concept of lucha libre and the tradition. She said CMLL is a promotion built around families, not just the Lutteroths.

>Sofia Alonso also said that being that she is from a different generation to her father, there will likely be some changes because she's likely to see opportunities that maybe her father didn't see. She doesn't expect it to be drastic changes.

>Sofia Alonso also said she grew up in lucha libre and would watch it every weekend. She said she doesn't have to be at lucha shows all the time, but she is because she adores lucha libre.

>Sofia Alonso said that she is very passionate about her job and doesn't deny that she is there because she is part of the Lutteroth family. She made the decision to take charge of the promotion, "take the bull by the horns". She could easily just stay home & do nothing.

>JCR asked Sofia Alonso what is something her father left her and she said he taught her to respect those who work for CMLL.

>Sofia Alonso's message to CMLL's roster is that her door will always be open to them. They are her top priority and they are the reason that "everyone gets to eat" in CMLL.

>Sofia Alonso said that Fray Tormenta will be the priest for the public mass on Friday.

>Sofia Alonso closes her interview letting everyone in #CMLL and fans know that this CMLL will evolve and they are going up. Down is not an option. She lost a lot already and failure is not an option.

>UPDATE: JCR said that CMLL luchadores were told backstage before they went to the ring for the ceremony about Paco Alonso passing away.
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Brian Gewirtz - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 23:38:33 EST d/XjW4Vg No.6264992 Reply
>>6264949
I mean pretty much all of it was the typical corporate stuff. Watching the interview I got the impression that she was just trying to appeal to everybody in the company both old (mostly old) and young. Nothing wrong with that really it's what you'd expect so we'll see if anything changes at all in the future.

It's really going to be interesting if she *does* decide to change anything that affects the old/useless people both in the ring and backstage (which I honestly doubt). Being such a young woman in charge of a promotion like CMLL really can't be that easy when it comes to all the politics there but she might be alright since she's part of the family after all so who knows.

Interesting times for sure.
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David Flair - Sat, 13 Jul 2019 15:53:40 EST GXHNtkkw No.6266267 Reply
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four vs four atomicos on that Liger show next week!
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Dale Oliver - Sun, 14 Jul 2019 00:50:10 EST GXHNtkkw No.6266725 Reply
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>well time to start checking for uploads of LA Park vs Sam Adonis from tonight
wat
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Dale Oliver - Sun, 14 Jul 2019 18:38:01 EST GXHNtkkw No.6267160 Reply
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>tfw you will never give no fucks as much as LA Park
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Lizmark Jr. - Mon, 15 Jul 2019 11:22:52 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6267664 Reply
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old fucks are ready to fight
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PAC - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 22:18:57 EST BlrIoG3o No.6269569 Reply
>>6223676
do you think Cody Rhodes has ever watched any lucha that wasn't WCW or PWG?
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Tommy Dreamer - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 21:41:38 EST BlrIoG3o No.6271746 Reply
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Warrior Wrestling is low-key running a CMLL/AAA/Impact/MLW Supershow the day after ALL OUt
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Jonny Fairplay - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 22:22:39 EST GXHNtkkw No.6271828 Reply
>>6271746
Warrior Wrestling continues to be secret best company
looks like it's "outside guys who work AAA" more than "AAA guys" but yeah still another weird mix
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Devon - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 21:21:16 EST BlrIoG3o No.6272533 Reply
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>Alberto and his brother
>vs MVP
>and Bram

all this plus sexy star!
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Giant Bernard - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 10:43:33 EST GXHNtkkw No.6274045 Reply
cubsfan says vamp says that it's Vamp and Matt on English for Triplemania
;_;
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Giant Bernard - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 11:41:41 EST GXHNtkkw No.6274071 Reply
>>6274055
Adrian adds actually calling the matches and knowing what the fuck is going on. You can replace Vamp with a recording of Vamp going "UHHHHH" and it really won't change anything at all.
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Triple H - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 11:49:28 EST BlrIoG3o No.6274074 Reply
>>6274071
>knowing what the fuck is going on
that ruins part of the appeal of triplemania

Its always been a gonzo event.
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Mercedes Martinez - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 22:14:24 EST U28QmYT+ No.6275339 Reply
I heard the lucha match was by far the best match at pwg this weekend. It just goes to show that even with so many companies signing exclusive contracts with top wrestlers, super dragon is still one step ahead on recognizing talent.
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Bob Backlund - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 22:28:28 EST xdhGimC4 No.6275351 Reply
Who would you say is the best wrestler on the AAA roster? I'm guessing it's probably Aero Star.
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Ultimate Warrior - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 22:48:00 EST IX5coWMM No.6275363 Reply
>>6275351
It's definitely Psycho Clown. Aero Star would struggle to make the top five.
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Brooklyn Brawler - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 22:49:54 EST GXHNtkkw No.6275366 Reply
>>6275351
Psycho is a pretty good candidate for best all around talent. Golden Magic and Hijo Vikingo are really great for the flippy stuff
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 16:34:00 EST UveV14Hw No.6275596 Reply
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This trios match should be a good one for the Canadian fans to see
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Octagón - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 09:25:27 EST BlrIoG3o No.6276112 Reply
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the Wednesday night in Toronto before Summerslam
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Hector Guerrero - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 10:45:52 EST U28QmYT+ No.6276149 Reply
>>6275596
Imagine a timeline where an evil wizard, a medieval crusader and a caveman team up to vanquish the good guys.

Lucha is wild, and in the best way possible.
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Shawn Michaels - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 10:52:53 EST GXHNtkkw No.6276155 Reply
>>6276112
isn't that snake guy one of the Chikara dudes? I thought they only worked Chikara mostly?
if you're marketing to nerds enough fucks to be given about Ryan or Page then why not hype Space Monkey or "Chikara's Snakedude!" or whatever his name is
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Octagón - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 11:04:22 EST BlrIoG3o No.6276162 Reply
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>>6276155
that's Ophidian, he's been branching outside of Chikara a lot, been working a lot more GCW shows. Demand Lucha has brought a few Chikara people up to Toronto for their shows.

He's facing an Amazing Red trainee who I saw have a good match with Kikutaro at HOG's WM weekend show (the one with Muta, Penta, Tajiri vs LAX & Low Ki)
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 01 Aug 2019 19:49:06 EST UveV14Hw No.6277802 Reply
Already been posted in the non-WWE major promotions general but I think ROH doing a Global Wars tour with CMLL this year is a good idea - https://www.rohwrestling.com/news/roh-and-cmll-join-forces-global-wars-espectacular

With Sofia Alonso wanting to forge closer ties with ROH, hopefully we'll see the same sort of effect with CMLL becoming more popular in the US as NJPW had 5 years ago after their first tour with ROH.
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Lena Yada - Thu, 01 Aug 2019 22:00:09 EST BlrIoG3o No.6277863 Reply
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>bram
>mecha wolf 450
>sexy star
yowza
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Miyako Matsumoto - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 11:19:14 EST z2hwvJv8 No.6278077 Reply
>>6277863
Imagine focusing on those literal whos when The Mummy and Sick Boy are heading towards a collision course.
At least we get to see Dulce again and get a solid reminder why wrestlers wear masks.
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Dick the Bruiser - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 11:29:39 EST HBLWC/LC No.6278083 Reply
>>6278077
Pretty sure they were pointing out the common thread between them
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Karl Anderson - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 22:41:46 EST GXHNtkkw No.6278334 Reply
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Psycho working a show in Florida
I think this might be related to Hugo Savinovich's Lucha Conquest show from a while back?
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Ezekiel Jackson - Sun, 04 Aug 2019 16:00:33 EST ISVkPzm7 No.6279005 Reply
>>6278942
I went on Hugos wikipedia page and apparently he used to be married to Wendi Richter.
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Shayne Hawke - Mon, 05 Aug 2019 22:21:48 EST BlrIoG3o No.6279645 Reply
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Lucha VaVoom low-key putting on a banger this weekend:
>Super Estrella Luchadores EXTREME TIGER & FLAMITA vs BARBARO CAVERNARIO & Dr MALDAD An all star match not to be missed!

>We have superstars ANDY RICHTER & JASON SKLAR join BLAINE CAPATCH on the mics!!
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Haruna Akagi - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 00:32:36 EST jOi3PKUE No.6279732 Reply
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>>6279645
>JASON SKLAR

Should be cool. He was great on the call of Christine Lombardo vs Rebecca Sealfon.
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Johnny Kidd - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 11:21:40 EST GXHNtkkw No.6279875 Reply
From cubsfan from Mas Lucha:

AAA TV schedule for rest of the year, via +LuchaTV

08/10 (SAT) Saltillo
09/08 (SUN) Puebla
10/05 (SAT) Culiacan
10/19 (SAT) Orizaba
10/26 (SAT) Toluca
11/09 (SAT) Torreon
11/17 (SUN) Ciudad Juarez
11/30 (SAT) Veracruz
12/14 (SAT) Ciudad Madero
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Brendan Michael Thomas - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 13:21:45 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6279918 Reply
>>6279907
>he's a second generation superstar inspired by Rey Mysterio
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Milano Collection A.T. - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 20:00:19 EST BlrIoG3o No.6280101 Reply
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The Crash gets one step closer to being the co-opted indie for NXT Mexico
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Bo Dupp - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 20:01:51 EST GXHNtkkw No.6280104 Reply
>>6280101
they already had WWE Sombra and Mysterio
wtf now I love AAA banning mention of The Crash from their English chat
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Giant Bernard - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 20:53:08 EST 8AnTNE8Y No.6280123 Reply
>>6280101
what's fcp? are they one of those UK promotions working for WWE?
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Caprice Coleman - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 09:48:46 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6280759 Reply
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>All four seasons of Lucha Underground appear to now be available for free on tubitv:
https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/1159310555204718599

>Not having anything to do with dead or not but Tubi has really grown into a rather potentially significant “ancillary revenue” stream for many content owners. It’s not all “dead”’content. So, while it may be dead - the Tubi deal doesn’t signal it. Does signal no Netflix renewal.

>Also signals no significant revenue offer from any other foreign territories because apparently Tubi has worldwide rights or at least broad territories including UK.

>It’s a similar model to Pluto.TV where you can watch ad based AAA, Impact and others free 24/7, but Pluto has a linear/regular tv style component plus on-demand for a lot of its content where Tubi is all on-demand.

>Oh I also forgot - if you live in the US and you have
@comcast @Xfinity, you can get a Tubi on your cable box.
https://twitter.com/maskedrepublic/status/1159338707427586048
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The Warlord - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 12:44:34 EST GXHNtkkw No.6280794 Reply
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>>6280759
RIP in peace LU

looks like the tubi copies download in youtube-dl pretty good at least
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P.N. News - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 12:52:51 EST T27T75Qv No.6280800 Reply
>>6280759
did this show ever get good again
i stopped during season 3 when it got meh
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Dr. Death Steve Williams - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 15:32:32 EST CXBa0qkv No.6280846 Reply
>>6280800
The fact that they ended up making Jack Swagger the world champion seems like a good answer to that question
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 15:35:54 EST It2BUKqt No.6280847 Reply
>>6280759
So does this have ads on it or what? Because if it does, fuck it.
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Ricky Ortiz - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 15:44:43 EST 9eFv9pYq No.6280848 Reply
>>6280847
These people worked hard on this product, so fuck you if you feel so entitled to it.
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Caprice Coleman - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 16:04:08 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6280855 Reply
>>6280854
like a wrestling fan has anything better to do with his time lmao
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Brie Bella - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 16:06:29 EST 9qeH49a2 No.6280857 Reply
>>6280759
>We are not available in Europe due to changes in EU laws.
Never ever.
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Rachel Summerlyn - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 17:27:34 EST vo2m0QFV No.6280885 Reply
>>6280857
I'm in the same boat, fuck EU copyright bullshit. Could someone download them and put them on Mega, maybe?
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 17:49:09 EST It2BUKqt No.6280894 Reply
>>6280883
Cool.

Now, WHEN DO WE GET SOME FUCKIN' LUCHA UNDERGROUND WEBMS
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Alex Wright - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 20:23:55 EST BlrIoG3o No.6280938 Reply
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Meltz Triplemania review:

>Young Bucks/Kenny vs Lucha Brothers/Laredo Kid: 4 stars
>Blue Demon Jr. Vs Dr. Wagner Jr.: 3 & a quarter stars
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Husky Harris - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 21:50:54 EST q5IhJsJV No.6280963 Reply
>>6280938
Fuck grit, emotion and storytelling
Wrestling is all about how many 720 Exploding Suplexes you can no sell
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Mike Chioda - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 22:18:47 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6280976 Reply
>>6280938
That's an accurate rating, as someone who hadn't watched much AAA this year
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Beulah McGillicutty - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 22:54:54 EST XYIBS/P8 No.6280989 Reply
>>6280969
I love everybody involved in that match I can't wait to watch it
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Alex Wright - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 09:59:25 EST BlrIoG3o No.6281098 Reply
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the AAA New York & Los Angeles don’t look like they’re happening
>Let’s go over what we know:

>AAA sold few tickets to the New York & Los Angeles shows, so few that they turned off the ability to see a seat map so no fan could see a visual representation of unsold tickets in one space. (Though the ticket selection screen still shows no many more tickets have moved.)
>one source told me the MSG show had sold much less than 1,000 tickets as of mid-July.
>No matches have been announced for either show.
>AAA had been posting canned Tweets regularly (and probably automatically) to hype these shows. Those have vanished.
>AAA hasn’t tweeted the word “MSG” since June 26th.
>AAA hasn’t used the #LUCHALIBREAAAenNY tag since June 18th
>AAA hasn’t used the #LUCHALIBREAAAenLA tag since June 29th
>AAA has continued to push their Mexico shows as normal; they’re not giving on social media ticket sales, just these shows.
>Neither the Spanish nor the English announce crew mentioned the AAA US shows on TripleMania commentary when it would normally be a focal point.
>This week’s Wrestling Observer Newsletters says the announcers were specifically told not to bring up the US shows.
>Fite.TV were announced as carrying these shows on PPV. They currently list no show airing on September 15th.
>An AAA show was announced for September 16th outside Mexico City, the day after the scheduled show in New York. It’s possible for everyone to make it back from New York to be on this show, but it would be challenging.
>I’ve been waving “AAA’s shows look concerning” red flags. AAA’s usually helpful in telling me when I’m way off base. No one’s gotten back to me to say I’m wrong.

>None of this is definite proof the shows are canceled. The tickets for New York and Los Angeles remain on-sale as of late Thursday and there were still ads playing for it in the Forum last night. The evidence showing they’re not running theses is getting overwhelming though. We’re waiting for someone on the AAA show to be announced as working somewhere else on September 15 or for AAA to say something. That may still take a while. The social media mentions being dropped in June suggest someone knew to stop pushing it a while ago and yet nothing’s been said. You shouldn’t wait for them to finally change say it to make other plans.

>I got a pretty decent ticket: Sec 117, Row 14, Seat 11 in New York City. I don’t think I’m using it. I’m definitely sure I’m not buying a plane ticket and a hotel room for a show that doesn’t seem to exist. More importantly, I don’t want you – a person with an interest enough in lucha libre to be reading this – to have bought tickets to these shows to spend more money on them that you’ll have trouble getting back. I have no doubt the ticket money will be coming back. AAA’s been trustworthy on that in the past. I can’t vouch for airlines or hotel companies or whatever else. I’m sure you can find other things to do in New York if you’ve got no alternative, but I’d like you to have the option to do something else with your time and money.

>(LA people: these shows are being fronted by the same investors. Tickets didn’t move much better for LA. If the NY show goes down, they’re not going to run a standalone show in Los Angeles a month later.)

>There’s a lot more to say about why these shows didn’t work. I’d like to wait until they get officially canceled to talk about it, but I suspect all the responses to this will be people diagnosing the problem. I think the overarching problem is AAA beliving in taking giant swings and nothing else, and they’re not getting slow pitch machines in the US. There are smaller steps they need to take first – and everyone’s going to list them now – but they seem unwilling to take that approach. It’s a shame because TripleMania seemed to prove there would be a market for a well promoted and positioned AAA show in the US. These plans were not it, but that doesn’t mean AAA should give up. Just don’t start with the level 99 boss of MSG, start a little bit smaller and smarter.
http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2019/08/09/51007/
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Ultimate Warrior - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 10:07:35 EST 3TbNK5Nn No.6281099 Reply
Any word on when LA Park vs Pagano Lucha Extrema Mask vs Hair and Laredo Kid vs Kenny Omega are happening?
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Ultimate Warrior - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 16:23:40 EST 3TbNK5Nn No.6281240 Reply
>>6281111
Yeah I saw that, but they talked about it again at Triplemania.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 18:47:53 EST UveV14Hw No.6281287 Reply
>>6281098
That's not a surprise. If they had partnered with AEW, Impact and MLW to help out then I think they would have had much better attendance. Otherwise they could have just done the shows in smaller venues like NJPW is doing for Super J Cup and Fighting Spirit Unleashed coming up.
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Soldier Ant - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 19:08:53 EST GXHNtkkw No.6281301 Reply
>>6281240
oh yeah I caught the promo, then Park started shit with Demon as apparently cinder blocks are dishonorable unlike rows of chairs and cases of empty beer bottles like Park uses.
I'm just saying, I don't think they've mentioned anything further about anything, but even if they do don't hold your breath for it happening in a rational manner.

I don't really care about the AAA NYC/LA shows because I don't live anywhere near them. At least I might get Psycho Clown near me.Pretty sure he's worked Central FL before, I think I saw a decent match between him and Sam Adonis from around Parramore or one of the other serious shitholes
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Slick Johnson - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:00:09 EST dYhrmb6W No.6282859 Reply
>>6282777
I doubt they literally forgot to finish their sentence. It's most likely some kind of translation error.
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R.D. Evans - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 22:37:34 EST BlrIoG3o No.6283097 Reply
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>There's been some concern that the AAA event at Madison Square Garden next month may be off, but PWInsider.com is told by MSG sources that AAA reps, including Dorian Roldán, were at the Garden two weeks ago working on logistics with arena management. The initial ticket sales have appeared to be extremely soft, but as of today, the lucha libre promotion is moving forward with the event.

>AAA is slated to debut in MSG on Sunday 9/15 with Aerostar, Averno, Blue Demon Jr., Daga, Dinastía, Drago, Fenix, Golden Magic, Hijo del Tirantes, Hijo del Vikingo, Konnan, La Hiedra, La Parkita, Lady Maravilla, Lady Shani, Mamba, Máximo, Myzteziz Jr., Niño Hamburguesa, Pagano, Pentagon Jr., Piero, Pimpinela Escarlata, Puma King, Taya, Tessa and Villano III Jr. advertised.

>The AAA Invading NY event will air live on PPV and FITE.TV.
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Drew Gulak - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 01:33:05 EST 1kyZqMut No.6283175 Reply
>>6283097
Has it ever been explained why they ever thought this was a good idea?
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Haku - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 01:48:33 EST 8kyTimBL No.6283177 Reply
>>6283175
I swear I thought I remembered there being a press release of them basically saying "New Japan sold out the Garden, there are more Mexican's in America than Japanese so with us being a Mexican promotion we are sure to sell out!"

Do correct me if I am wrong
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R.D. Evans - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 10:47:04 EST BlrIoG3o No.6283259 Reply
>>6283177
its Independence Day in Mexico and Dorian gave some quotes that were basically hispanics have a holiday weekend and would come to NYC
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Jim Johnston - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 22:21:58 EST BlrIoG3o No.6283725 Reply
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Masked Republic is putting on a Lucha convention next weekend in San Diego. Second year they've done this. Lots of AAA names plus indie luchadors, Impact & MLW crews.

They're running 4 shows:
a DEFY/PCW Ultra/SoCal indies supershow
Legends of Lucha Libre
Mexico vs the World
... and

Lucha Society X a one night only show featuring the stars of LU, WSX and the wrestlers that would have been on those shows if they didn't get canceled
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Leva Bates - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 23:06:30 EST GXHNtkkw No.6283746 Reply
>>6283732
>Mexico vs the World
wait a minute that shit's barely even NAFTA vs the world

nb for 2x
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 23:08:47 EST It2BUKqt No.6283750 Reply
>>6283726
I know Psychosis started wearing his mask again a long while back, but when did The Juice start wearing his again?
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Toshie Uematsu - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 09:51:10 EST QQesQNiH No.6283846 Reply
>>6283725
Is this streaming this year? I remember they did last year and it look empty because it was in Vegas for some reason when every fan was already flying to Chicago for All In.
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Hieracon - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 09:55:26 EST dYhrmb6W No.6283848 Reply
>>6283725
Do most people even remember Wrestling Society X? They only made 10 episodes over a decade ago. It was on TV for less than 3 months.
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Rayna Von Tash - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 10:01:21 EST sK8BwNDg No.6283850 Reply
>>6283848
It had a pretty low-key good roster with dudes like Teddy Hart, M-Dogg, Tyler Black, Jimmy Jacobs, Masato Yoshino, Genki Horiguchi, Human Tornado, Jack Evans, Matt Sydal etc.

WSX was a pretty fun watch, tbh.
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Jim Johnston - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 10:04:53 EST BlrIoG3o No.6283853 Reply
>>6283846
tbf, i think they had it booked before All In was a thing but smartly they're holding it on a different weekend and in a more lucha friendly town. no idea if its streaming but last year's shows were put on for free on demand on the website after so ... shrug?

>>6283848
Hell yes it does. Plus Masked Republic is run by Kevin Kleinrock who produced WSX (and XPW and Urban Wrestling Federation and Extreme Rising), he's kind of the king of the infamous 2000s wrestling shows - in the fun Ed Wood kind of way.
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Ric Flair - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 10:20:14 EST HBLWC/LC No.6283861 Reply
>>6283848
There would be a not-insignificant crossover of WSX & LU fans considering how many roster members they shared
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Leva Bates - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 11:17:47 EST GXHNtkkw No.6283887 Reply
>>6283848
It's not super huge, but if you're wrassle nerd enough to go "oh wow Lucha Underground stuff!" then there's a decent chance you've at least heard of it
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Bo Rotundo - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:53:06 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6284361 Reply
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>CMLL officially announced the CMLL Gran Prix would take place on August 30th. The announcement took place on CMLL Informa. This is an annual Mexico versus the Rest of the World 8 v 8 cibernetico which has had strong turnouts in recent years. The Rest of the World team usually includes Ring of Honor wrestlers, August 30th is an open weekend for ROH, so it’s looked like this date for a while.

>The CMLL team was announced on the show: Negro Casas, Diamante Azul, Dragon Lee, Barbaro Cavernario, Volador Jr., Forastero, Rush, Soberano Jr.

>Forastero sticks out as a person who would not be expected in this match – he’s the third guy in his own trio – and so there might be something more to him and Volador. Ultimo Guerrero is usually in the matches and is not, so he may be busy doing something with Cibernetico. This is a good group of people and also Diamante Azul.

>The Rest of the World Team will be announced next week. Count on Okumura and Dark Magic for two spots. Kawato too, if he’s not injured. (CMLL will probably have to address his disappearing act in some way.) Kenny King was said to be coming in to CMLL in August and August 30th still counts as August. NJPW has a show on August 31st, so most of their big names are going to be busy.

>CMLL hasn’t announced the date of the Aniversario show. 09/13, the day most people seem to think is the date, is only 29 days away. CMLL waiting until very late to announce a match is no longer strange, but typically at least the date is out there four weeks prior. It’s already strange for it not to be out – maybe it’ll be just mentioned in commentary tomorrow, but maybe also something else is going on. If that date got pushed back, there’s no need for it to be announced yet.
http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2019/08/15/cmll-gran-prix-team-announced-impact-in-mexico-city/
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Bo Rotundo - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 16:29:57 EST Ybchf0OF No.6284369 Reply
>>6284361

The guy in the blue,red, and gold top looks like Roderick Strong or Alex Riley.
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Michael Kovac - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 23:34:42 EST BlrIoG3o No.6284551 Reply
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>>6283097
>on the WOR podcast, Dave said he expected a press release out about the AAA New York show yesterday. There was none. So maybe today. Maybe tomorrow.

>"we're going to change venues" does seem like something you'd bury on a Friday afternoon, maybe. I dunno.

>same people who own MSG own the Hulu Theater so that's the move if there's one to be made.
luchablog
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Hernandez - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 01:31:46 EST 3TbNK5Nn No.6284581 Reply
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Ya put the lime in the coke.
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Ray Mendoza - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 12:29:12 EST GXHNtkkw No.6284691 Reply
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I'll still be surprised if the MSG-ish show happens
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 12:37:45 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6284696 Reply
>>6284693
I dunno why they even booked these huge venues in the first place but that's a good move. I wonder if they're gonna move the AAA LA show from The Forum?
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Michael Kovac - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:20:57 EST BlrIoG3o No.6284773 Reply
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>>6283725
Gauntlet Rumble at Lucha Society X with La Mascara, Laredo Kid, Black Taurus, Mr Iguana, Lil Cholo and Disco "THE DRAW" Inferno
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Ray Mendoza - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 19:33:23 EST GXHNtkkw No.6284884 Reply
>>6284871
>tfw you realize the only reason Park was at Triplemania was that he strongarmed AAA for an extra payday for the family because he can bring them and himself to fill space on the USA cards that they won't get their employees visas for
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Ray Mendoza - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 19:35:24 EST GXHNtkkw No.6284886 Reply
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>>6284884
aw crap forgot a reaction image
nb for 3xposting
here's a random shot of luchakino from Tuesday
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Skip Sheffield - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 12:42:37 EST BlrIoG3o No.6285068 Reply
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>The second annual Expo Lucha convention kicks off today in San Diego City College's Harry West Gymnasium, featuring autograph and photo sessions as well as live events. Masked Republic, which is producing the event, will be unveiling a lot of new licenses and merchandise product over the course of the two day event as well. The schedule for the weekend features:

>Saturday 8/17
>2:30 PM Viva La Lucha live featuring PCW ULTRA, DEFY, AWS, Lucha Libre VOZ, Ground Zero, Quiet Wyatt Designs, Baja Stars USA, and more.

>7:30 PM Lucha Society X: Solo Una Noche featuring
>Penta Zero M & Rey Fenix vs. Teddy Hart & Jack Evans,
>Juventud Guerrera vs. TJP vs. Flamita vs. Rey Horus,
>Drago & Aerostar vs. Septimo Dragon & Aeroboy,
>Psicosis & Black Taurys & Demus vs. Daga & Ryan Kidd & Tiago,
>Ruby Raze & Joey Ryan vs. Peter Avalon & Shotzi Blackheart,
>a Lucha Society X Gauntlet and more.

>Sunday 8/18
>12:30PM Legends of Lucha Libre featuring
>Dr. Wagner Jr. & Octagon & Tinieblas with Alushe vs. Pirata Morgan & Misterioso & Fuerza Guerrera,
>Solar & Solar Jr vs. Tornado Negro & Angel Blanco Jr.,
>Damian 666 & Bestia 666 & Mortiz vs. Shamu Jr. & Acero Dorado & Piloto Suicida,
>Bobby Lee Jr. & Gallo Tapado Jr. vs. Pakal & El Jalisco,
>Lil Cholo & Mariachi Loco vs. Los Luchas and more.

>5:30PM Mexico Vs The World with
>Penta Zero M, Fenix & Mr. Aguila (aka Essa Rios) with Lita vs. Brian Cage & Jack Evans & TJ Perkins,
>Psicosis & Black Taurus & Juventud Guerrera vs. Teddy Hart & Brian Pillman & Davey Boy Smith Jr.,
>Puma King & Laredo Kid & Flamita vs. Douglas James & Jake Atlas & Adrian Quest,
>La Mascara & Daga vs. Joey Ryan & Danny Limelight,
>Taya Valkyrie & Viva Van & Shotzi Blackheart vs. Tessa Blanchard & Zada Zang & Simone Sherie,
>Rey Horus & Septimo Dragon vs. Aerostar & Drago.
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Electroshock - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 00:19:47 EST GXHNtkkw No.6285272 Reply
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>THE LUCHA BROTHERS WITH NEW MERCH!
>convoluted LB logo x 3
>Aztec Skull Guy
>Priest Skull Guy
>Magic The Gathering interrupt spell art
t- thanks, guys
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 02:16:27 EST q3U6Z4Co No.6285309 Reply
>>6285272
They probably made a killing selling all that merch though
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Vine - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 03:08:25 EST G9cW5MRV No.6285322 Reply
>>6285258

>There are people who aren't willing to slice their arteries open to fuel their bloodlust for LuDark
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Amazing Red - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 04:17:46 EST 7k2NOqZJ No.6285336 Reply
>>6285272
lucha brothers keeping the 2000s pacsun aesthetic alive very powerful latin american energy
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Derrick Bateman - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 06:31:41 EST M8hrfnBv No.6285348 Reply
>>6285272
>www.luchabrothersbrand.com

what did the bucks do to my boys ;_;
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Yuji Nagata - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 07:42:51 EST XggtJQJ+ No.6285370 Reply
I’m not big on action figures, but the Penta and Fenix ones are day one pre-orders.
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Mike Quackenbush - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 08:07:50 EST 3TbNK5Nn No.6285379 Reply
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>>6285370
I would kill for a Demus action figure with chest biting and head blood gushing action.
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Mari Apache - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 22:36:04 EST BlrIoG3o No.6286994 Reply
>>6284361
https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/1164304553363288064
>CMLL Informa about to announce Team World for the Gran Prix.
>Kenny King is team member 1.
>Luke Hawx is team member 2, as a The Crash rep.
>Mecha Wofl 450 is team member 3, the first guy to get a reaction.
>Big Daddy (Yum Yum) is team member 4.
>Jay Briscoe is team member 5, representing ROH.
>Mark Briscoe is team member 6, representing ROH.
>Oraculo, from The Crash, is team member 7.
>and number 8 is...
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>Matt Taven
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Razor Ramon HG - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 10:11:25 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6288508 Reply
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>>6286994
>Mark Briscoe suffered a knee injury and will not be participating in CMLL's Grand Prix.

>Delirious will be his replacement on Team World.
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Brodie Lee - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 20:08:12 EST BlrIoG3o No.6288743 Reply
>El Hijo del Vikingo will be out six weeks with a torn MCL. That means he's out of the MSG show on 9/15 which still has no lineup announced. He was wrestling Saturday night in Ciudad Guzman and caught Carta Brava Jr. on a simple crossbody. We had written yesterday that his feet were out of position but those at AAA have said his feet were fine but that it was a beer soaked ring that was the culprit. He will be in a walking boot for three weeks and then need three more weeks of rehab. Dave the Clown was also injured on that same show due to the slippery ring.
meltz

FUCK
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Hieracon - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 22:40:15 EST BlrIoG3o No.6291796 Reply
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Penta & Fenix working Lucha VaVoom's halloween show. Interesting observations from Cubsfan:

>October 23rd is a Wednesday. AEW announced the semi-finals of their tag team title tournament that night. Fenix booked for VaVoom as well.
>Penta and Fenix still haven't officially been announced as AEW signed but they're on the promotional art for the TV show so.
>LU contracts were believed to finally expire in August. Today is September 1st.
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Jolly Roger - Tue, 03 Sep 2019 03:04:49 EST makvli1d No.6291871 Reply
remember when Lucha Libre Elite had weekly TV taped in Arena Mexico a few years ago? completely forgot about that just remembered out of nowhere for some reason. crazy shit.
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The Esperanza - Tue, 03 Sep 2019 04:16:32 EST HBLWC/LC No.6291901 Reply
>>6291871
What even happened to LLE? All I know is they made Elgin their 1st world champ
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Steve The Turtle Weiner - Wed, 04 Sep 2019 17:19:23 EST fm2iDgm0 No.6292830 Reply
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>>6292747
>CMLL's Aniversario (09/27) main event
>Big Daddy (Yum Yum)

WHAT?!?
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Ax - Wed, 04 Sep 2019 17:29:24 EST kDhu5Ddp No.6292834 Reply
>>6292747
Ma what were you gonna say?

and isn't it kind of a bad sign that they're doing this kind of cage match? Didn't they used to do these years ago when they didn't have anything better to put on?
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Ebessan - Wed, 04 Sep 2019 17:32:50 EST BlrIoG3o No.6292837 Reply
>>6292834
>Didn't they used to do these years ago when they didn't have anything better to put on?
i'm no CMLL expert but thats what it seems like. The show is hurt this year by RUSH working ROH instead. PLUS, I'm sure they still want that Rush vs LA Park mask vs hair match
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Ebessan - Wed, 04 Sep 2019 17:36:59 EST BlrIoG3o No.6292839 Reply
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>>6292747
OH SHIT TALK ABOUT BURYING THE LEDE

>Microman & Chamuel will meet in the first-ever Micros mask match.
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Bully Ray - Wed, 04 Sep 2019 18:46:19 EST aKZouGad No.6292865 Reply
microman vs chamuel is the real main event
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Too Cold Scorpio - Wed, 04 Sep 2019 19:08:12 EST GXHNtkkw No.6292871 Reply
>>6292845
there's the "short mexicans and tall midgets" of Rey Misterio jr, Dynastia, Mercurio, guys like that, then there's "serious fucking midgets" like Microman and those guys in CMLL
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Road Warrior Hawk - Wed, 04 Sep 2019 23:39:22 EST GXHNtkkw No.6292951 Reply
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DOUBLE POSTING FOR THE DOUBLE CINDER BLOCK ATTACK
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Harvey Wippleman - Thu, 05 Sep 2019 00:17:41 EST j1l06+jy No.6292962 Reply
>>6292951
Why is blue demon jr. wrestling on this outlaw mud hole wrestling show?
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Road Warrior Hawk - Thu, 05 Sep 2019 00:39:47 EST GXHNtkkw No.6292968 Reply
>>6292962
that's Mexico's secret, it's always outlaw mud hole wrestling shows

but yeah you're right this does seem to be a little below BDjr's usual pay grade looking at the rest of the card
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Krissy Vaine - Sun, 08 Sep 2019 10:51:57 EST 50sXMI1E No.6293859 Reply
Isn't there a AAA show on twitch tonight?
Didn't see a listing on the tubea
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CM Punk - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 22:49:21 EST BlrIoG3o No.6295738 Reply
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based main event with biggest north american draw vs accused rapist
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Mad Dog Vachon - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 23:36:37 EST GXHNtkkw No.6295747 Reply
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>>6295738
lol whatever that card doesn't even have the Lucas Brothers
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Mad Dog Vachon - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 10:57:12 EST GXHNtkkw No.6295836 Reply
>>6295835
responses seem to be a mixture of variants on
>dirtsheets
it sounds like wwe is looking for anybody who's got a tape library they can use, and to be fair if CMLL can make the randos in ROH interesting it makes me curious how Bo Dallas would look bullying Kemonito
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Smash - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 12:06:10 EST Sisj5G0M No.6295852 Reply
>>6295843
>>6295849
Ay, legit. Are we legally allowed to beat the shit out of people who call us Latinx? Had some white dude in baby blue hair keep using that word at me and I wanted to slap his shit.
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Allison Danger - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 12:34:54 EST JM5KOkuQ No.6295855 Reply
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>>6295835
>latinx
fuck off you chicano piece of shit
>>6295852
Yes!
>Had some white dude in baby blue hair
and set the body on fire
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Richie Steamboat - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 13:12:12 EST tmdtWLR3 No.6295868 Reply
>>6295852
No, no, you should be honored that instead of using actual Spanish, we're whiting Spanish up! Instead of using the non-racially charged, already existing word "latin", we can just ignore how actual Spanish grammar works, AND add an X! What isn't cooler with an X????? See, now that I've done you the favor of speaking YOUR language, you and me can be amigxs!!
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Mia Yim - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 13:26:27 EST wfc4Nl90 No.6295869 Reply
>>6295868
Isn't the point of the word to non misgender people? I've never heard the word used and frankly I think identity politics are stupid as fuck to begin with; but the wikipedia article says that
>The term emerged in response to "to circumstances in which existent language structures fail to articulate value in appropriate ways."
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The Machine - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 13:27:22 EST OEScMBdD No.6295870 Reply
What's so fucking wrong with the word latino?
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R.D. Evans - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 13:44:07 EST g0JhSpRF No.6295873 Reply
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I wanna clarify something: La X en las palabras para no establecer un género determinado es una tradición de los anarquistas latinoamericanos que lleva màs de cincuenta años y solo se usa para escribir ya que es dificil de pronunciar y sonaría horrible. Algunos grupos reemplazan la X por una estrella como en pic related.

El nuevo lenguaje inclusivo reemplaza las palabras por E en vez de X. Esto es algo contemporaneo y personalmente me disgusta porque se escucha terrible, como una especie de francés con lepra.
Anarco = compañerx
LI = compañere
So please don't mix latin american anarchism with this new capitalist PR fad of social consciousness as a way to sell people more shit like disney movies.

Now back to the news, fuck no, Imagine CMLL shows without copyrighted music and shitty wwe stock music instead... I'm so disappointed, Paco Alonso dies and the first thing his daughter does is make a deal with the devil.
NB
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Amish Roadkill - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 14:12:38 EST bWZ+YR1t No.6295879 Reply
I was born in Guatemala, moved to the US when I was 3. I'm booker as fuck and get the point behind "latinx" and trying to be genderless and yada yada and support the intention.

But "latinx" sounds stupid as fuck. Also it's weirder given that Spanish is a very gendered language. I'm all for calling people by preferred pronouns etc, and everything labeled "PC" by people. But goddamn, you'll never convince me to use "latinx." Fuck that.
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Owen Hart - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 14:57:16 EST 7W6GJIOe No.6295893 Reply
>>6295873
It's a literal who dirtsheet saying wwe talked to them "can we have it " "lolno" is talk
Chill lol
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R.D. Evans - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 15:00:05 EST g0JhSpRF No.6295894 Reply
>>6295893
thanks, I was waking up I thought the source was superluchas, they might be a shitty clickbait, wwe bootlicking website but THEY'RE wwe's contact in México.
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El Oriental - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 20:20:16 EST GXHNtkkw No.6295960 Reply
cubsfan on that thing
>Planeta Wrestling wrestling has a story that the CMLL/WWE meeting which happened earlier this year were regarding WWE wanting to purchase CMLL’s video library as additional content for their premium tier. PW Insider had mentioned earlier this week that WWE was investigating getting lucha libre content for their network. I got a decent amount of “don’t trust Planeta Wrestling, they may just be speculating” feedback after posting this. Even Planeta’s report says it was a discussion and they don’t know if went any farther than that. I’m getting increasingly leery of posting any WWE related news on Twitter; anything “these two sides had a talk about [X]” instantly gets read and repeated as “it’s definitely happening, it’s the biggest version of the deal possible, and it’s all going down tomorrow” for reasons I don’t have a grasp on. (That’s why there was no WWE in the headline of this post.) You should take this story with a big grain of salt, as a thought experiment about what it would WWE trying to buy the CMLL library would mean rather than something that has any certain chance of happening.
>A small shared licensing makes sense for both sides. Ring of Honor & Impact have given permission in the past to WWE for bits of their footage to be used in documentaries. There doesn’t seem like much harm in CMLL letting WWE do the same as long as they’re fairly compensated. A large scale library sell-off would seem bad for CMLL fans; some surprising stuff may squeeze thru, but it’s hard to see WWE having interest in formatting and sharing the vast majority of it. CMLL’s not doing anything with their old footage, but there at least exists a possibility they might do something with it someday. If WWE ever got all of it, most of it would never be seen again. The flip side is CMLL really is doing nothing with that old footage, doesn’t see it as something to make money out of, and seems to be even more profit conscious in this post-Paco era. You normally take the money if someone offers to take give it to you for something you have no interest in, and it’s never seemed like CMLL has that much interest in that old footage. The blue sky perfect world result is CMLL gains some interest once they realize being a revenue source for WWE means it could be one of them as well. The mitigating reality to all of this is no one seems sure what footage CMLL has and how far back it goes; it is possible all footage as recent as the mid-00s is actually Televisa property; that sort of fact-finding is probably what the WWE/CMLL conversation was actually about.
also his link to a corn wrestler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W88WeD5QXBg
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Masa Takanashi - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 21:00:15 EST cL4SQWKh No.6295966 Reply
what are these niggas doing to our language there's literally no reason for latinx to exist and I don't mean "it's not a big deal who cares" I mean there is zero actual reason it's not even a debate it makes no sense wtf
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tHURTeen - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 01:48:08 EST 4whUyJgM No.6296014 Reply
>>6295870
Not a damn thing

To give a wrestling-related example The Rock was called La Roca on old WWF Super Astros and no one took that as mistaking Dwayne for a woman
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Molly Holly - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:53:35 EST tmdtWLR3 No.6296086 Reply
>>6295869
Road to hell is paved with good intentions and such, and I have no doubt most people who use it think they're doing you a favor by saying it. "Latin" is already non-gendered, the only reason not to use it is to use the Hispanic terms over the English terms, but since the Spanish terms ARE gendered (and therefor not good enough for woke, English-speaking people), they've fixed your inferior language by putting an English variable letter in there that makes it longer and more unwieldly than the already existing word that means the same thing.

The difference between a white person saying "the Latin community" and "the Latinx community" is like putting "sapiosexual" on your dating profile, in that it means jack shit other than "LOOK AT ME, I'M 'WITH IT', I'M NOT LIKE THOSE OTHER WHITES", instead of, you know, setting yourself apart with words and actions.
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Mr. Anderson - Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:05:27 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6296874 Reply
>Expect Laredo Kid to be replaced in all announced bookings. He posted airport photos on Instagram which were seemed like him heading to New York for AAA, but are actually Laredo going to the Dominican Republic for the Exatlon TV show. Konnan mentioned the possibility last month.

>This is the same show Dragon Lee & Hijo de Octagon appeared on in past years. Dragon Lee missed three months of wrestling. Hijo del Octagon was gone five. Both needed recovery time even after they returned. Neither even made the final.

>My impression is Azteca let Laredo Kid know he was on the show just a few days ago and needed him right away. (He's replacing someone, I think.) Laredo was in BOLA, BLP's tournament, wrestling Santo in Denver and probably tomorrow's AAA show in NY. He's off all of that now.
https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/1173025919847600128

>Laredo Kid will no longer be a participant in the 2019 Battle of Los Angeles. Puma King has now entered the tournament, and will face Bandido on Night Two!
https://twitter.com/OfficialPWG/status/1173375719323262976

>Unfortunately Laredo Kid will not be appearing at Turbo Graps 16 on September 21st. We will announce a replacement in the coming days.
https://twitter.com/BLabelPro/status/1172648321585827840

>Daga beats Puma King, earning a shot at the AAA Cruiserweight Championship... (the champion isn't going to be around for months.)
https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/1173372050263687170
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Sho Funaki - Tue, 17 Sep 2019 06:16:21 EST byTXpl2f No.6297341 Reply
>>6295873
Don't try to educate circlejerkors. The only way they can be reasoned with about these things is with a lead slug to the cranium.
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Ernesto Osiris - Wed, 18 Sep 2019 01:13:01 EST GXHNtkkw No.6297701 Reply
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something that may resemble the card for Heroes Immortales
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Kanyon - Wed, 18 Sep 2019 03:55:37 EST tdcLSB2c No.6297724 Reply
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>>6297701
Did AAA some how convince Flamita to portray Octagon Jr again or is that someone new under the mask? Either way security better be on the lookout for the O.G Octagon during the match.
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Ernesto Osiris - Wed, 18 Sep 2019 11:24:15 EST GXHNtkkw No.6297792 Reply
>>6297724
yeah OG Octagon and son have already issued official twitter videos or something bitching about it
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 19 Sep 2019 23:26:09 EST 0IxTp/JR No.6298541 Reply
>>6298539
I wonder if ROH Death Before Dishonor being on at the same time had anything to do with that decision?
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Onyx - Thu, 19 Sep 2019 23:28:07 EST GXHNtkkw No.6298542 Reply
>>6298541
If I have to not see Microman vs Chamuel live because of whatever godforsaken shit that dump is putting on the air then I hate them forever.
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Jaki Numazawa - Fri, 20 Sep 2019 02:18:35 EST DTvxhVdp No.6298584 Reply
>>6298541
I doubt it. That one aniversario with Dragon Lee vs La Mascara from a few years ago didn't air live either. I think you had to buy the VOD on YouTube afterwards for that one so maybe they'll do that again
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Onyx - Fri, 20 Sep 2019 09:40:36 EST GXHNtkkw No.6298624 Reply
>>6298584
yeah CMLoL has managed to shit up Anniversario lots of times iirc
basically there's an inverse proportion of how important a show is to how easy it is to catch
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Brooke Tessmacher - Fri, 20 Sep 2019 09:48:30 EST BlrIoG3o No.6298626 Reply
>>6298624
TBF, they shouldn't just be giving the Anniversario show away for free. AAA's NYC PPV tanked bc they gave Triplemania away for free.
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Onyx - Fri, 20 Sep 2019 10:13:49 EST GXHNtkkw No.6298638 Reply
>>6298626
AAA tanked for a bunch of reasons PPV wise, like no advertisement for where it was, Cain literally saying it was on twitch in one of the only interviews hyping it, to say nothing of
>AAA
>pay

my favorite was when CMLL charged for Anniv and just emailed out an unlisted youtube link and asked you nicely to not share it
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Road Warrior Hawk - Fri, 20 Sep 2019 17:03:32 EST nyfglFnS No.6298761 Reply
Internet piracy is ingrained in every latin american's blood nobody's paying for a wrestling show so it's not even worth it imo. We all grew up literally pirating everything and anything. It has been the norm forever it doesn't matter if you're just some kid with no money or an adult with a stable job niggas ain't paying for non physical things on the internet and that's just how it is. (Netflix is pretty much the only one who gets away with it people actually pay for that for some reason. Maybe Spotify too)
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Road Warrior Hawk - Fri, 20 Sep 2019 17:05:27 EST nyfglFnS No.6298763 Reply
>>6298761
(obviously there are exceptions I'm talking about the majority here)
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Onyx - Fri, 20 Sep 2019 19:04:07 EST GXHNtkkw No.6298809 Reply
>>6298761
hell, I actually give AAA my twitch subscription I get with Prime and I'd probably legit give them the five bucks a month if I didn't use Prime, but fuck that real money shit for "AAA presents some of Triplemania repeated also some Impact guys"
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Zack Sabre Jr. - Tue, 24 Sep 2019 16:43:18 EST Jq9kpJZ4 No.6300111 Reply
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I spontaneously fell behind on CMLL last year and never caught back up. By the looks of the Anniversario main event there's no meaty feuds to catch up on (fuckin' phew thank you Jesus that's a load of stress off my mind) but I still feel obligated to see some of the good lucha things I missed.

Any especially choice CMLL matches from the past year that I gotta see for their own sake? Last thing I saw was the '18 Gran Prix cibernetico that Elgin won. I know Terrible won the Universal Tournament and got his head shaved at Leyendas and have no great interest in either (at least on-paper; cuss me out if they were lit).

Oh and any news? More in the kayfabe sense, i.e. any big Park angle or heat to the Mistco fire or shocking tecnico/rudo turns (I'm looking at you Titan you slaaaag). I'm aware Paco is kill & apparently WWE is exploiting it, intend to read into that specifically at some point.
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Tyler Black - Tue, 24 Sep 2019 19:47:56 EST BlrIoG3o No.6300248 Reply
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>The Lucha Libre AAA Invading NY show will air on the El Rey Network on 10/06 (Sunday) at 9 pm EST, according to program guide data. It's a 2.5 hour airing.

>The El Rey logo was displayed during the show. No one ever explained why. The show previously aired on AXS this past Friday.
https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/1176623965156106247

what if El Rey finally officially cancels LU... and then becomes the US broadcaster for AAA's weekly show?
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Mephisto - Tue, 24 Sep 2019 20:35:11 EST CmVM3fC3 No.6300272 Reply
>>6300111
Off the top of my head:
LA Park Familia vs. Los Ingobernables from the Liger Farewell Viernes show.
Mistico vs. Cavernario from a few months back
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Sirelda - Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:03:21 EST QSYhnRQX No.6300287 Reply
So I can start a new thread if this is too off topic but I'm heading down to Guadalajara in 2 weeks. I was thinking of checking out a CMLL show. I've heard the Tuesday ones are a little better. Is that the case and do I need to know anything going in? Either about the venue or the promotion or whatever? Also are there any indies down there to check out? I'm going from 10/5-10/15 if that helps. Thanks!
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Jonathan Barber - Wed, 25 Sep 2019 12:09:05 EST GXHNtkkw No.6300413 Reply
so I've dug around a little bit into early lucha Jericho, the Corazon de Leon stuff
am I missing anything or is he just generic pretty boy white guy face? Not in a mean way, but that just seems to be where he was at the time
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Robbie E - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 01:32:19 EST 7CbqqQ6G No.6300708 Reply
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Very important information from this week's Informa: Negro's wife has 7 chihuahuas. He's not a fan and often forgets to take care of them when she's not around.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 02:59:03 EST MqPOCghi No.6300717 Reply
So unfortunately no Anniversary Show stream on Friday night. However we’ll show it in /wooo/tube when it gets uploaded to Youtube not long after Impact and Death Before Dishonor end.
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Iceberg - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 10:03:09 EST H97lkgSz No.6300756 Reply
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>>6300717
Dismal. I was holding out hope that a Mexidashing would lurch forward from the shadows and save us poor international brigands
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Rhino - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 10:17:48 EST GXHNtkkw No.6300761 Reply
>>6300756
there's a theoretical chance of randos in the crowd streaming via periscope, and a youtube video will probably be our first chance to see the matches, but iirc CMLOL has been stepping up about that last month or so
there's a possibility there'll be highlights on CMLL's channel the same night, sometimes they package those into the interview segments
and of course there's a non-zero chance CMLL fucks it up and forgets to private their live youtube feed because they usually just get the shows on youtube that way then makes them public later rather than record and upload separate. I'm pretty sure that's happened for a random event once or twice
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Hector Garza - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 10:35:09 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6300763 Reply
>Aramis also made BOLA specifically because Barbaro Cavernario did not. At the time, there were two stories going around: that CMLL needed him for the Aniversario and that CMLL had put pressure on both Barbaro Cavernario and Dragon Lee to not participated based on AAA affiliated wrestlers (and specifically Penta & Fenix) being on the same show. Cavernario did end up pulled into the Aniversario mix. The second part seems like it may also be accurate. Dragon Lee’s decision to work PWG’s BOLA appears to have frozen him out for CMLL for the moment. Not one outside of CMLL management, not even Dragon Lee himself, has been told why Dragon Lee was pulled off the Aniversario show. Everyone assumes CMLL pulled him for working these shows without approval. (It is possible he’ll now end up on ROH’s PPV Friday night, but that was not something Dragon Lee knew was happening when his name was off the Aniversario card.) Dragon Lee is expected to be in the NJPW Super Junior Tag League next month and had previously scheduled time off at the end of the year for personal reasons, so he might have not been around Arena Mexico much the rest of the year anyway. Things like this tend to blow over in time, and Dragon Lee’s had chances to leave CMLL in the past that he’s passed on. Those options are still out there though.

>Terrible replaced Dragon Lee in San Luis Potosi., so CMLL's apparent benching of Dragon Lee includes spot shows. As mentioned a few days ago on the blog, Dragon Lee is off all CMLL cards as apparent punishment for working PWG's BOLA against orders. Very quietly, Rush has also not worked a show for CMLL in about three weeks and isn't on any current lineups.
https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/1177222807467560960
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Hector Garza - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 10:37:33 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6300764 Reply
>>6300717
>The CMLL Aniversario show will not air live as anticipated. The Gran Prix foretold the plans for the Aniversario show in many ways. CMLL will announce their plans at a later date. I assume this will be the same early morning VOD release as the Gran Prix. If I was in charge of CMLL and the Televisa TV deal was important to me, I’d wait until the matches aired on that show Saturday afternoon before putting it up on YouTube. That doesn’t really help me as a CMLL fan not living in Mexico though.
http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2019/09/20/last-cmll-friday-night-before-anniversario-which-isnt-airing-live-pwg-cuervo-aaa-ppv-nacion-lives/
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Rhino - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 12:36:57 EST GXHNtkkw No.6300846 Reply
really though it says a lot about how far things have come for lucha fans that the occasional big event _not_ being instantly free and live with no hassles is a big crisis
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:29:43 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6300975 Reply
>>6300892
Well that's a relief it'll be live on Fite but how are they gonna do it live on HonorClub when Death Before Dishonor is on at the same time? Unless they got a seperate stream or something for that on there.
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Ranjin Singh - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 01:12:39 EST GXHNtkkw No.6301647 Reply
>>6301644
>the chance of Park/Rush is less close to zero
OH YEAH
but yeah iirc in cubsfan's writeup where he was mentioning this may be coming soon he said Dragon Lee isn't under contract and could dip on CMLL at any moment. Dunno what Mistico2's status is. Obviously he couldn't take Mistico with him
I wonder if Park is still with AAA. After his appearance at Triplemania I figured he'd be at the USA shows since he has a visa, but I don't think he's been on AAA since Mania. Park shows up to wreck some shit in next AAA show then Rush shows up would be pretty fucking hype.

I thought Rush was technically an ROH guy who worked CMLL a lot these days, how does this affect his ROH stuff?
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Lance Bravado - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 02:14:43 EST /HLACGvV No.6301660 Reply
Dragon Lee is out too and CMLL straight up fired them on twitter apparently lmao
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Lance Bravado - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 03:25:46 EST /HLACGvV No.6301678 Reply
yo this shot keeps getting crazy apparently Dragon Lee wasn't supposed to leave and found out about him being fired on twitter.
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Lance Bravado - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 03:28:25 EST /HLACGvV No.6301679 Reply
>>6301678
damnit sent it by accident here's his post. Doesn't seem like he took it too well. He still thanks Paco tho but fuck the rest.
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Lizzy Valentine - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 03:29:39 EST IOJUtiT2 No.6301680 Reply
>>6301678

on the cubs fan twiter

>Dragon Lee can't believe he gave his body to CMLL, raised their name in other places, and was fired like this.

extremely surprise that someone who gave his body to someone ended up getting fucked
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Lance Bravado - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 03:30:04 EST /HLACGvV No.6301681 Reply
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>>6301679
holy shit i'm retarded now I forgot the picture I'm just gonna go sleep
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Gorilla Monsoon - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 08:06:38 EST qaWE+YXN No.6301703 Reply
i wonder how hiromu is feeling right now
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PAC - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 09:14:03 EST BlrIoG3o No.6301721 Reply
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cubsfan:
>Dragon Lee can't believe he gave his body to CMLL, raised their name in other places, and was fired like this. He was not planning on leaving. He thanks Paco Alonso (and no one else mentioned.)
>Dragon Lee is the current CMLL Welterweight Champion. Or was.

>CMLL has not officially fired Bestia del Ring, but he was only being booked as a favor to his family. He declared he would be going independent (and be booked by indy promoters as a favor to Rush going forward.)

>Mistico wishes his father and brother well, sort of indicates he does not plan on leaving CMLL at this point.

>It would be hard for Rush to go on AAA TV while still being with ROH, though I guess not impossible. It is no problem for him to work independent dates with AAA talent and that may have already been agreed upon.

>FWIW, CMLL owns the Mexico trademarks to: Rush, La Bestia del Ring, Dragon Lee, Mistico
>CMLL owns a trademark for "Rush El Toro Blanco" as well as "Rush" and strangely "Blood Rush"

"What is going to happens with Los Ingornables?"
>Done in CMLL. (Poor Terrible.) Rush, Bestia and La Mascara will probably form a knockoff group ASAP.

>KAOZ has already announced Rush coming in as El Toro Blanco. The Crash too.
Dragon Lee may end up being Toro Rojo.
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Rob Van Dam - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 10:14:12 EST JM5KOkuQ No.6301738 Reply
Good to know that CMLL still stuck in 1996, anyway
>we will finally see LA Park vs tl toro blanco mask vs hair
Im ready bby
I hope they drag mistico out or they go to fuck arround impact

>>6301721
>no el Toro Lee
Come on
>Mistico wishes his father and brother well, sort of indicates he does not plan on leaving CMLL at this point.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEÑEEE
>>6301703
Numb from the neck
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Antonio Inoki - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 10:39:46 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6301760 Reply
www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2019/09/28/como-estaz-6x6-dejan/
Normally, I wouldn't recommend this, but you gotta listen to this audio covering what just went down with Rush, Dragon Lee and CMLL

There's more LOLCMLL than what currently meets the eye.
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Dick the Bruiser - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 10:48:06 EST ZwjmINkF No.6301766 Reply
>>6301760
>noone cares about Bestia Del Ring
Fuck them. As much as it is true.
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Dick the Bruiser - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 11:03:11 EST ZwjmINkF No.6301778 Reply
>>6301738
The Mistico element might still be up in the air right?
If he knew that Rush (and Bestia with him) were planning on leaving there is no reason he would feel the need to leave, but the added element of Dragon Lee being fired just because of Rush's actions even if Lee did take actions CMLL didn't like in the past that weighs much more against Mistico's loyalty for the position CMLL put him in.

Sadly I just don't think Mistico has the wide appeal of the other two despite being just as good, especially as he wouldn't be able to use the Mistico name.
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PAC - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 11:06:14 EST BlrIoG3o No.6301781 Reply
>>6301778
Rush & Dragon Lee would be the new Penta & Fenix in terms of demand, they'd make sure promoters bring their dad and brother along for the ride

Now is the time for Mistico II to bet on himself
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Dick the Bruiser - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 11:15:58 EST ZwjmINkF No.6301787 Reply
>>6301781
I totally agree, would love to see Mistico go for it and even if having to start out as "the brother" be a global success in his own right.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 11:43:59 EST MqPOCghi No.6301799 Reply
>>6301781
Yeah I could definitely see Rush and Dragon Lee being the new Lucha Bros now that they’re exclusive to AAA and AEW. Hopefully Mistico decides to join his brothers in the near future.
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Ranjin Singh - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 13:06:59 EST GXHNtkkw No.6301838 Reply
>>6301760
yeah, has a good rundown of the various stuff going on in CMLL
I can't stand sitting through podcasts but it's a good rundown of a lot of what's been going on
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Ranjin Singh - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 13:25:11 EST GXHNtkkw No.6301843 Reply
>>6301838
also around the 35 minute mark there's spoilers for the Aniv main event, not that you should really give a shit about the main from that
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Rob Van Dam - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 14:06:42 EST JM5KOkuQ No.6301860 Reply
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>https://www.circlejerk.com/circlejerk/comments/dag913/notes_from_emergency_podcast_with_dr_lucha_on_the/

>mfw this whole thing

>ROH hasn't been happy with CMLL because CMLL has trouble with streaming and it's caused problems for ROH. ROH management feels they're outdated technologically.

>ROH feels that Rush is more important to ROH than their working agreement with CMLL is.

>They'd be willing to lose their relationship with CMLL if Rush takes off for them. "We don't get to use Stuka Jr. anymore, but I'm sorry, we're moving on."

>For New Japan, they'd try to talk them into keeping it at least January (for Fantasticamania, since it's still a good tour money wise). They aren't going to stop using Dragon Lee regardless.

>But keeping Dragon Lee might be more important to them than CMLL. CMLL hasn't done a lot for New Japan training-wise for a while either so losing that relationship doesn't hurt them much.

>New Japan's quote "not going to give a shit" what CMLL wants, because CMLL has no leverage. If CMLL says they won't do Fantasticamania, well that hurts CMLL hugely. It's considered to be a massive perk for CMLL talent because it's where they actually make the most of their good money in the year. They sell heaps of merchandise, etc when they do it. Some talent have stayed with CMLL for years turning down big offers elsewhere just so they can keep doing Fantasticamania tours.

>So losing Fantasticamania would be a big blow for CMLL, not New Japan. New Japan likes that tour but they don't need it at all like CMLL does. New Japan would be willing to lose the CMLL deal if they had to, in order to keep booking Dragon Lee.

>It's a red flag already that New Japan didn't send either Umino or Narita to CMLL. Because when things are good they're always making sure they have a few young lions at CMLL. New Japan is obviously not happy with CMLL right now.

>CMLL and Lutteroth are going to see Rush quitting the same way Paco Alonzo, the original owner, would've seen it. An American company came along, negotiated a talent exchange deal, and then used it to sign top talent who would then leave Mexico. Paco Alonzo hated doing business with Americans because this happened all the time in Mexico.

>The middle-man for New Japan, CMLL, and ROH is Okumura. He has to go to an emergency meeting over all this soon and life is going to be pretty hard for him because of all this. He sold CMLL on things being great with ROH after just negotiating the deal with Delirious, and now Rush has already quit CMLL.

>Okumura is screwed. If the New Japan or ROH deal goes away, then he's basically finished with CMLL.

>Rush is a good friend with Diamante Azul, Vangelis, and some others who are affiliated with his family. Many of them may leave if Rush can get them booked in the US regularly.

>Strong possibility that ROH didn't even know Rush and Bestia del Ring were planning to quit to focus on wrestling for ROH.

>CMLL is basically screwed because they have no leverage over ROH or New Japan. ROH has gotten what they wanted out of this deal since they have Rush on a contract. If CMLL respond by pulling all their talent from ROH over this, many of the CMLL talent could quit over it because they make very good money in ROH.

>CMLL will be fine financially and aren't going anywhere any time soon since they're self-sufficient and profitable, but they're in a very tough situation now because there aren't as many guys left in CMLL that are top tier talents and they aren't looking to bring in anybody at that level right now. And they've just lost Rush, Dragon Lee, and potentially more.

>The fallout from this could be huge. Rush quitting could possibly be the catalyst for the end of the ROH-CMLL deal, and maybe even the NJPW-CMLL deal.

>Rush plans to release a video soon explaining why he quit in detail. The original plan was to release it monday but the fallout from all this could have changed the schedule. He's most likely going to say he left CMLL because they weren't giving him interesting matches and because he wanted to do the match with LA Park. Don't fall for the reasoning he's going to give though because his video is mainly going to be something to get promoters to run out and book him.

>CMLL's mistrust for companies outside Mexico is much bigger as a result of this. Possible that they might pull talent from the British J Cup and elsewhere.

>People are very angry behind the scenes and want change.

>Sofia Alonso has basically been sidelined since Chavo Lutteroth came back in the picture. Unlike her, he's not a lucha fan and more a finance guy. He's drastically cut everyone's pay (except for old legends) and that, along with stale opponents, has led to massive unhappiness within the CMLL lockerroom.

pray for ya jap Okumura and i'm glad that Sofia is not to blame... ish
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Stacy Keibler - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 14:49:50 EST LUMg+nxK No.6301874 Reply
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>>6301860
>cut pay for talent
>talent finds company that pays them more and quits
>WHY DO THEY DO THIS

jesus christ
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Madison Rayne - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 15:29:43 EST fK4x0NPt No.6301894 Reply
>>6301860
ROH probably feels good about Rush wanting to focus on working there, but I feel like phase 2 of this plan is "get established in US, then jettison from ROH"
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 15:33:22 EST UveV14Hw No.6301896 Reply
>>6301894
I mean Rush doesn't care about working with NJPW, which is the reason why guys like Jeff Cobb and Bandido are working for ROH. I can't see Rush going to WWE after Andrade told him not to so I guess AEW?
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Rizokahn - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 15:40:17 EST hTSUcuhc No.6301898 Reply
>>6301874
Paco was the one keeping shit together. Once he passed, they gave the day-to-day reign to a guy who's looking to cut costs and doesn't know how lucha works.
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Torrie Wilson - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 21:39:04 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6302011 Reply
>>6301860
Yeah, I'm pretty much dropping CMLL
It's going to take a little more than sexy edecanes to keep me going with them
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Claudio Castagnoli - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 21:47:26 EST W+Ea0jSH No.6302016 Reply
>>6302011
even if you ignore all the backstage fuckshit CMLL doesn't really give anyone a reason to watch them these days anyways.
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Layla - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 21:56:37 EST sK8BwNDg No.6302020 Reply
>>6301860
How is it that the most self-sufficient promotion in all of wrestling can drive off two of their best talent, possibly cause an exodus & put themselves in a position where they can lose partnerships with ROH & NJPW?

Fucking hell I enjoy CMLL, but they need to get their shit together
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Claudio Castagnoli - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 22:18:38 EST W+Ea0jSH No.6302025 Reply
>>6302020
>the most self-sufficient promotion in all of wrestling
this is exactly why. they have their sponsors and tourist money so most of the talent (mostly the good ones sadly) are seen as expendable. I'm sure there are people who legit care just like anywhere else but sadly the people in power don't. Shit's gonna be rough from now on and if cmll stops working with NJPW and ROH then there's literally no reason to stay there if you're a decent wrestler.
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Stinky the Homeless Guy - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:01:13 EST HBLWC/LC No.6302040 Reply
>>6302020
Because they have some number cruncher >>6301874 attempting to run things based off pure numerical data, which is pretty much always the worst method of running a business.

Especially one with a big "human" element like wrestling.
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DJ Hyde - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 14:29:07 EST VVMtGBdl No.6302253 Reply
watching the rush video explaining his exit here are some bits:

>thanks Paco for everything and said that ever since he died shit went downhill for the company
>says that if Sofia remained fully in charge things may have been different. Wishes her well and says that she has all of his family's support.
>thanks Colombo
>his dad says that in cmll you're constantly walking on eggshells (not sure how true that is If we're talking about his family specifically but still, it's true for everybody else)
>says that what they did to dragon lee was very disrespectful after all he has done for the company and says that dragon lee was the only one who put cmll on the map worldwide at the time
>hopes that all of this doesn't affect mistico
>once again drives the point home to thank Paco and pretty much says fuck cmll


>>6302040
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Cody Deaner - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 17:44:34 EST JM5KOkuQ No.6302294 Reply
>>6302253
>hopes that all of this doesn't affect mistico
CMLL is run by bitter boomers, he's fuck, so get hype for el toro de plata y oro
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Shane Douglas - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 08:23:14 EST vZs+a3dj No.6302451 Reply
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According to Dave now CMLL luchadores can only wrestler other CMLL luchadores on the mexican indies, before thee rule was that CMLL luchadores can't wrestler against AAA luchadores but they could have matches against local guys, internatinal stars or independents. Maybe its just me but it seams that the new guy wants to reduce CMLL to a local circus
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Johnny Curtis - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 08:33:01 EST HBLWC/LC No.6302454 Reply
>>6302451
This is the Lucha Underground contract prohibitions bullshit all over again, people outside wrestling not understanding how it works
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Bobby Fish - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 08:33:23 EST pUmOxAT/ No.6302455 Reply
>>6302451
He saw Speed Partners' AJPW run and was like "Sostén mi cerveza". don't know why i get the same vibes but i do.
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Big John Studd - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 10:57:56 EST GXHNtkkw No.6302493 Reply
>>6302451
>Dave
>lucha scoopz
if cubsfan says it I'll believe it
Given how pants-on-head retarded Cheap Bastard Alonso has been I can see him doing something so fucking stupid, but that's really, really, fucking stupid and as far as I understand just plain will not work in the wrestling environment of Mexico.
literally EVERYBODY does "indie card with some guys from (company) and a bunch of local guys"
it's a major part of the lucha business model from the workers' standpoint
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Timothy Well - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 11:02:48 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6302499 Reply
>>6302493
>Given how pants-on-head retarded Cheap Bastard Alonso has been I can see him doing something so fucking stupid
uh... you're not referring to Paco right?
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Big John Studd - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 11:06:19 EST GXHNtkkw No.6302502 Reply
>>6302499
no, the recent Alonso who dirtsheets seem to indicate has semi-usurped Sofia, and has been making some bad choices based on money
Paco's dead so he probably isn't doing much lately
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Sin Cara - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 11:20:44 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6302508 Reply
>>6302493
>if cubsfan says it I'll believe it
because cubsfan has never been wrong before
top kek
I'm pretty sure he did talk about it, too, on the audio I posted earlier in the thread. Either him or Rob Viper, who was in that audio.
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Big John Studd - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 11:28:55 EST GXHNtkkw No.6302511 Reply
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>>6302508
No, just that Meltzer's lucha insight can be flawed
I recall them mentioning that CMLL was taking a bigger cut of the bookings, not that the bookings can't have any local guys at all.
Like I said that would be an even bigger matter than all the other stuff. I'll try to get a chance to listen through that again but I'm not sure "all cmll guys on cmll only cards" is a thing.
Looks like this The Crash show on the 5th will be a good chance to find out confirmation one way or the other
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Big John Studd - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 12:11:00 EST GXHNtkkw No.6302526 Reply
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okay digging a bit more in luchadb here's a card for today with CMLL guys working a match with non-CMLL guys
this one might be a bit harder to check if it happens as scheduled than The Crash, though
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Big John Studd - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 12:11:44 EST GXHNtkkw No.6302527 Reply
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>>6302526
whoops, wrong one.that one has CMLL and indies but not in the same match
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Perry Saturn - Wed, 02 Oct 2019 16:33:29 EST 8PkwKlzb No.6303884 Reply
Just heard from a co-worker who's a big fan of Mr Mecha Wolf 450## Turbo that he's wrapping up his commitments to work full-time with CMLL
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Vinnie Vegas - Wed, 02 Oct 2019 19:18:43 EST GXHNtkkw No.6304017 Reply
>>6304002
hahaha holy shit
doesn't Cain's contract run out "after he works the LA show"
even when it comes to shady carnie shit Mexico's game is light years beyond whatever baby shit lolwwe comes up with
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Jinder Mahal - Wed, 02 Oct 2019 21:38:39 EST qdYeeVf0 No.6304211 Reply
>>6304002
So I'm having trouble keeping track of what show is what at this point with all the wrestling happening, but if this is something that people on /woo/ might have a ticket for, my experience with a similar "rescheduled for next year" event is that the time to request a refund is right the fuck now. Just like, putting it out there.
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El Mesias - Wed, 02 Oct 2019 22:21:34 EST bWZ+YR1t No.6304339 Reply
Good to see Dorian Roldan is still an absolute fuckwit and cancer on pro wrestling.
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Linda McMahon - Wed, 02 Oct 2019 23:25:16 EST BlrIoG3o No.6304427 Reply
>>6304290
tbf i had a great time at the NYC Hulu Theater show. it was genuinely great.

but i also waited until the last week to buy tickets because i wanted to make sure it was actually going to happen
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Samoa Joe - Wed, 02 Oct 2019 23:27:23 EST GXHNtkkw No.6304430 Reply
>>6304427
yeah I'm not saying "never give AAA money" but, just, y'know, know what you're getting into
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John Morrison - Thu, 03 Oct 2019 00:29:18 EST HBLWC/LC No.6304485 Reply
>>6303884
lmao imagine hiring this fuckstick after canning Rush & Dragon Lee
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 03 Oct 2019 00:32:23 EST 51/ZE9Eo No.6304489 Reply
>>6304002
lol seriously? Looks like we got an opening for October 13 now in the tube.
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D-Ray 3000 - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 17:16:46 EST RIMHP1wE No.6306121 Reply
I wanna git gud at Spanish so I can watch AAA and CMLL and actually understood what's being said. I studied it in college but just enough to pass the tests and didn't bother beyond that, or put effort into retaining it.

Any advice for efficient practice/brushing up?
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Matt Hardy - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 17:43:22 EST JM5KOkuQ No.6306130 Reply
>>6306121
watch carlos and hugo work in wwf/wwe i learn english thank to that
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Big John Studd - Sun, 06 Oct 2019 12:48:34 EST HBLWC/LC No.6306393 Reply
>>6306389
LOLAAA became LOLCMLL so quickly I didn't even have the time to process it!
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Triple H - Sun, 06 Oct 2019 13:30:08 EST GXHNtkkw No.6306408 Reply
>>6306403
I think I picked it up from around the time Park/Rush didn't happen, might have been from the yt chat on that informa
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The People - Wed, 09 Oct 2019 03:16:40 EST T3pNx6NP No.6308083 Reply
>>6308051
I'm expecting the finals to be 3K vs Taiji and Pantasmo, though 3K vs Ospreay/Eagles is also a possibility.
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Albert - Mon, 14 Oct 2019 12:34:49 EST GXHNtkkw No.6310386 Reply
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Atlantis performing Geese Howard's command throw where it looks like he just waves his arms around
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Prince Iaukea - Wed, 16 Oct 2019 10:49:09 EST GXHNtkkw No.6311521 Reply
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Lucha Capital is back tonight live on facebook!
It's a AAA side story from a bbq joint, theoretically a tournament with structure and rules but iirc it got thrown out about two weeks in last time because of travel issues, injuries, and good old lolAAA
it's expected to stream live through AAA's facebook, which I think precludes a feed on the tubes unless somebody takes the facebook feed and bounces it to a different live thing. cubsfan didn't do that last year and I don't know of anybody doing it this year either
assuming it works like last year I'll probably get replays up on mog_dos pretty regularly, and I'll try to post the link up here as it's live

last year was a fun enough endeavor, more subdued than normal AAA and more singles matches, the Pincho Gringo BBQ Zone is an underrated arena

cubsfan's take on it from yesterday
>+Lucha’s podcast went over the details of the Lucha Capital tournament last night. AAA posted some of these same details in a press release. Vampiro also talked about the show on Facebook, though I haven’t listened to it yet. There are 12 trios in the tournament:
> Poder del Norte
> Taurus, Willie Mack, Rich Swann
> Bengala, Puma King, Flamita
> Pagano, Super Fly, Maximo
> Octagon Jr., Aerostar, Hijo del Vikingo
> Dinastia, Drago, Psycho Clown
> Mamba, Murder Clown, Nino Hamburguesa
> Argenis, Arez, Mr. Iguana
> Dave the Clown, Villano III Jr., Abismo Negro Jr.
> Faby Apache, Lady Shani, Big Mami
> Ayako Hamada, La Hiedra, Vanilla
> Lady Maravilla, Keyra, Hades

>Neither of last year’s champs (Laredo Kid & Taya) return. No Lucha Brothers; no one from AEW at all. That seems unlikely running on Wednesdays. Including Impact made it doubly unlikely. Australian Suicide mentioned he’d be part of this but isn’t in a match, so he’s likely doing commentary on Facebook comments again. (I would like the job of going to a BBQ restaurant and saying silly things on social media; I’m pretty sure I do that for free as it is.) There are some tippy-top people like Wagner, Demon, Kross, Escorpion who aren’t involved. There are also a few middle and lower people left out: Daga, Chessman, Monster Clown, Pimpinela, Eclipse, Astrolux, Dragon Bane, Aramis, Toxin, Iron Kid, Latigo, and Los Macizos. I wonder if the spot that was Lady Flammer and is now Hades started as Chik Tormenta’s place in the tournament. I think we all can agree Flamita should return to being Nightclaw to complete the cat theme of his team.

>Each week will have four three-way matches, featuring a member of a different team. If they stick with this format, you’ll never see these teams together during the early weeks of the tournament. They’ll be fighting on their own.

>Men and women will be in the same matches, though they’re heading to different championships. The three men’s teams and the two women’s teams with the most wins will advance to semi-finals. The winning teams will face off among themselves to determine overall men and women’s winners.

>The AAA press release mentions the competition will last eight weeks, which would mean a final on 12/04. Eight shows – or seven group episodes and one final – doesn’t seem to work evenly with the tournament structure. Maybe it’ll make sense later.

>Since every match is going to be a three-way, the poster seems a pretty good indication of the plans for tomorrow

> Rich Swann vs. Villano III Jr. vs. Ayako Hamada
> Aerostar vs. Drago vs. Flamita
> Nino Hamburguesa vs. Hades vs. Willie Mack
> Big Mami vs. Argenis vs. Maximo

>Note this doesn’t fit with what AAA’s already announced. If AAA has four three-way matches, that’s one person per team. There’s no Poder del Norte member listed for the first show, while both Rich Swann & Willie Mack are wrestling. Perhaps they had to double up on that team for availability reason, and it will all make sense later. It’s not a bet I would take.

>I’m not a fan of three-way matches in general, so seven weeks of them doesn’t seem ideal. The team format is an easy workaround for not being sure of having everyone available every week.
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Ortvatistadon - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 10:46:29 EST GXHNtkkw No.6312172 Reply
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okay I got this week's Lucha Capital in rotation on mog_dos
tried a few options but I'm having trouble getting youtube-dl to catch one of the higher resolution feeds to download, but whatever it's not a super important thing
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BxB Hulk - Fri, 18 Oct 2019 17:37:10 EST BZh+5Le3 No.6312720 Reply
>>6312700
rush vs l.a park at triplemania do it you fucking cowards I don't even care where you get the money from just do it
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Dave Prazak - Fri, 18 Oct 2019 19:51:47 EST GXHNtkkw No.6312773 Reply
>>6312720
after The Cartels finish taking over that one state they book it
Santa Muerte craves a hair sacrifice
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Arnold Skaaland - Mon, 21 Oct 2019 11:36:28 EST GXHNtkkw No.6313765 Reply
luchatwitter seems to be leaning towards this being the end of the road for Parka AAA in-ring, cubsfan seems to indicate surgery is expected to wrap up this hour-ish
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Arnold Skaaland - Mon, 21 Oct 2019 12:03:19 EST GXHNtkkw No.6313783 Reply
>>cubsfan
>AAA says La Parka is out of the operation and in recovery. They will update when they know about his medical status.
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Arnold Skaaland - Mon, 21 Oct 2019 12:43:16 EST GXHNtkkw No.6313790 Reply
more cubsfan
>SuperLuchas reports La Parka was diagnosed with a neck & cervical fracture. The operation this morning was to release pressure and to repair a fractured vertebrae.

again to keep things clear this is La Parka (AAA), the second La Parka, not the original one who worked WCW and now goes by "LA Park"
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DJ Hyde - Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:25:58 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6313804 Reply
>RelliK RNG thinking its clever to dunk on a wrestler who just broke his neck because his workrate wasn't good
kringe and readit-pilled
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ODB - Mon, 21 Oct 2019 14:50:03 EST qC+X2xCR No.6313853 Reply
damn I figured if anyone's career would've ended with a suicide dive, it would've been the other Park
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Christy Hemme - Mon, 21 Oct 2019 17:23:29 EST c7OGKAbU No.6313935 Reply
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>>6313800
LEND PARKA AAA YOUR ENERGY but not with lifting your left arm all the way up
_o/
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Daniel Bryan - Mon, 21 Oct 2019 21:22:27 EST GXHNtkkw No.6314087 Reply
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more coverage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntak6s7zOPs&t=0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz6mXgr1o4o
not a good night for rope dives
also watching that coverage with a pal both of us thought it looked like Park might have been throwing a bit of shade on Parka AAA in the match
which is great because LA Park is a cool guy eh chingas madres and doesn't afraid of anyhing
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Mephisto - Wed, 23 Oct 2019 12:41:46 EST GXHNtkkw No.6314726 Reply
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more Lucha Captial live tonight on AAA's facebook
image unrelated
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Stevie Ray - Wed, 23 Oct 2019 18:46:13 EST 6kO9GCoV No.6314819 Reply
>>6314785
I mean that picture seems pretty normal just a some people sitting down and having a chat.
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The Machine - Fri, 25 Oct 2019 12:25:43 EST GXHNtkkw No.6315655 Reply
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RED ALERT
daylight savings time bullshit is approaching fast
USA and Mexico do it at different times so things are going to be out of wack for a bit
>>cubsfan
>Daylight Savings Time ends in Mexico (and many other places) early Sunday morning. It does not change in the US for a week more. It’s only seven days, shorter than the spring, but everything starting on Sunday will be one hour later than usual. The AAA Twitch show is the last show without any adjustment most people watch; if you only watch AAA on Twitch, you’re to going to notice anything. The Puebla show starts at 10 pm CT, the Lucha Capital show will be one hour after the AEW/NXT shows for one week only.

meanwhile, back on the Parka AAA front
>La Parka’s son (Karis La Momia Jr.) says his father was able to speak and identify the people in the room on Wednesday. Parka is said to be off a resperator and breathing on his own.

also I've been watching a bunch of Santo movies last few days, and that weird spoopy noise that plays at the start of whatever RHCP song Blue Demon jr comes out to is actually specific stock sound effect for spoopy laboratory noises in some lucha movies. that's pretty cool
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Jerry Sags - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:03:36 EST GXHNtkkw No.6318565 Reply
bumping for today's spoopy content, a bunch of Santo movies subbed over in mog_dos
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BxB Hulk - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 14:56:14 EST oAnfki6H No.6318675 Reply
>>6318565
dont forget all the horror monster wrestling crossovers that happened in Memphis/Mexico and Japan. Guys with Leatherface and Freddy Kruger gimmicks wielding chainsaws in their entrances, then doing side headlock takeovers in the ring
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Jerry Sags - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 18:52:14 EST GXHNtkkw No.6318877 Reply
>>6318675
oh yeah there's tons of stuff, but I already had a bunch of Santo movies to run lol
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 18:47:24 EST sVBjtuU1 No.6319410 Reply
Hasn't been posted in this thread yet but here's who's going to be on the Fantasticamania 2020 tour - https://www.njpw1972.com/62754

Glad to see Negro Casas and Fuego are coming back.
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Zardoz - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 19:07:49 EST rxIFjo4g No.6319425 Reply
>>6318707
Wow it's been at least 20 years since I've seen this picture. My neighbor used to have this big book about some kind of wrestling shit. The cover had been ripped off so it was just the black case or whatever. I remember seeing this picture in there. True story.
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Larry Zbyszko - Sun, 03 Nov 2019 22:44:34 EST BlrIoG3o No.6320486 Reply
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>Bronx Clown
>BIG Clown
>Frank Clown
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Michael McGillicutty - Mon, 04 Nov 2019 07:16:09 EST qQJZ8oT+ No.6320581 Reply
>>6318565
this shit easily made my night. Santo movies rule when youre in a bad mood thank you. we need a Santo block in one of the channels cus like 78% of those moveise are the tits. Or dedicate a lesser used cahnnel into a permanent lucha mysteries fest.
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Mark Madden - Mon, 04 Nov 2019 11:46:47 EST GXHNtkkw No.6320638 Reply
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>>6320581
glad you liked them
I sometimes toss a few in on my mog_3 wildcard channel
it's not that tough to set up for yourself, too
the subbed copies in that Mega at the start usually need converting to mp4 to get them to work with archive as the video host, and there's a few softsubbed ones you'll need to burn them in on

I'm still surprised they don't run more of them for the /wooo/ movie night
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Chris Benoit - Thu, 07 Nov 2019 16:19:20 EST isc6PjB+ No.6322696 Reply
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holy shit dragon Lee vs Kenny for the title and Rush vs LA park (with pagano but whatever)

(it won't air live but maybe it'll air on TV at a later date)
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Hurricane Helms - Thu, 07 Nov 2019 22:44:48 EST sTv18GUf No.6322864 Reply
>>6322850
Wut? Do you not follow AAA? They air everything on their Twitch channel.
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Danshoku Dino - Thu, 07 Nov 2019 22:50:25 EST GXHNtkkw No.6322867 Reply
>>6322850
afaik they're not airing it online at all, pay or otherwise
and nobody's paying money to fly in to see Aerostar take Murder Clown's mask, Park/Rush is the only apuesta that's gonna get that
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Hurricane Helms - Thu, 07 Nov 2019 22:52:11 EST sTv18GUf No.6322869 Reply
>>6322867
Ah, that's lame. The card looks really good. I'd be willing to buy it on PPV for a fair price. Shame it won't be airing, I was really looking forward to this show.
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Ric Flair - Fri, 08 Nov 2019 10:23:38 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6323000 Reply
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> Pentagon Jr. & Rey Fenix have reportedly signed new deals, which only relate to Mexico. The deals mean that AAA will be booking them in Mexico and they can’t do The Crash or CMLL. I’m not sure what that entails but their 11/1 Crash show looks to have been their last one with the promotion. CMLL had stopped booking them some time back, even though they were genuine draws when they worked there
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Danshoku Dino - Fri, 08 Nov 2019 11:22:21 EST GXHNtkkw No.6323020 Reply
>>6323000
Cubsfan's take on it
>WON reports Fenix & Penta have signed with AAA and they'll be handling their Mexico bookings go forward.
>Fenix & Penta are booked on indie shows in Mexico every weekend and rarely on AAA shows, so I'll believe this when I see it.
maybe they're using AAA as a base of operations than necessarily working there a lot
like if it's (bullshit number) $20 for them to show up and $7 for your average AAA guy I can see how the math of "book the $7 at our show and farm out the $20 guy so we pay less for our main event _and_ we get money from that other booking"
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Ric Flair - Fri, 08 Nov 2019 11:26:13 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6323022 Reply
>>6323020
>maybe they're using AAA as a base of operations than necessarily working there a lot
even still, its surprising that they would go back to letting AAA have a say in their bookings cause thats why they quit in the first place. Dorian must have done something to sweeten the pot.
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Danshoku Dino - Fri, 08 Nov 2019 11:50:33 EST GXHNtkkw No.6323033 Reply
>>6323022
Konnan's backstage there now, too. Could be that AAA has Konnan as VP In Charge Of Booking Penta And Fenix or something
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Super Crazy - Fri, 08 Nov 2019 23:34:11 EST GXHNtkkw No.6323371 Reply
>>6323354
money, a stable network of connections to the USA, it's where Konnan is
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Johnny Kidd - Fri, 08 Nov 2019 23:38:41 EST GErZtESg No.6323373 Reply
>>6323371
They already get booked a shit ton in the US they don't really need any connections. Plus it's known that booking people through AAA is a pain in the ass if anything that would hurt them.
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Super Crazy - Fri, 08 Nov 2019 23:38:50 EST GXHNtkkw No.6323374 Reply
cubsfan presses X to doubt
>The Wrestling Observer Newsletter says Fenix & Penta “reportedly” signed new deals with AAA, which would give AAA control of the Lucha Brothers bookings in Mexico only. There’s no mention of who is reporting it. This is mentioned as related to CMLL & The Crash, though Penta & Fenix work for a lot of indie promotions beyond them. The Lucha Brothers are still working a lot of indie bookings thru the end of this year and were announced for The Crash’s next show after I started writing this paragraph. The WON doesn’t make sense as presented, which often doesn’t mean it’s completely wrong but means there’s a piece we’re missing. Maybe they’re working out the existing shows any deal would take effect in 2020? It’s still hard to understand how Penta & Fenix would benefit from a promotion booking them out in Mexico, outside of maybe keeping track of their calendar better. Though that doesn’t seem like a strong skill set of AAA either. I don’t get it.
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Super Crazy - Fri, 08 Nov 2019 23:48:08 EST GXHNtkkw No.6323375 Reply
>>6323373
I've always gotten the impression that Konnan is their big connection, so wherever he is they are
but there's also a The Crash show in a couple of weeks with Lucha Bros vs Jack and Angelico (apparently the first time ever oddly enough) and it's hard to believe that a "AAA person" would be allowed anywhere near The Crash
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Karen Jarrett - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 09:45:54 EST GXHNtkkw No.6329281 Reply
just as a heads-up for people who want lucha subs really badly, HVS Lucha Libre on youtube has copies of Nacion (the promotion with Alberto El Cocaine) that have actual closed captions rather than autocaptions. There's still the usual issues with autotranslate but it's a lot closer to English
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Neko Nitta - Sun, 24 Nov 2019 16:11:22 EST vVJhOqZT No.6330354 Reply
damn he's is really going through it.. pray for my nigga parka

also scrolling down I found a headline saying some 19 year old dude chipped his baby's head off because the devil made him do it I guess it's one of those days huh>>6330275
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Joel Maximo - Sun, 01 Dec 2019 23:30:43 EST GXHNtkkw No.6333632 Reply
spoilers for that AAA show from tonight for LA Park / Rush / Pagano
Rush invited LA Park to join Los Ingobernables.
LA Park accepted, declaring war on AAA
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Mildred Burke - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 16:12:32 EST 3TbNK5Nn No.6333781 Reply
I haven't been able to follow a lot of Lucha since Triplemania. Have I missed anything crazy in Lucha Extreamas with Pagano, Ludark or Demus since then?
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