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- Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:38:24 EST M1ahJWky No.6251924
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This thread is for general discussion of AEW, Impact Wrestling, MLW and ROH, which are the four major non-WWE promotions in the US/Canada that have both national television and PPV deals.

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This post was edited by C_Higgy on 10-08-2019 21:00:24
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Harvey Wippleman - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:29:35 EST g0JhSpRF No.6251940 Reply
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What do you think of OVE? I love what the stable has become in almost two years. I want the Crist Brothers to get another tag team title run tho.
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Paul Roma - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:36:55 EST iVSK5WcY No.6251945 Reply
>>6251940
love them, but i'm still not too sure about the inclusion of fulton
thematically he fits in and i like the gimmick where sami drags him everywhere like a beast going rogue, but as a wrestler he's way below the average of the stable
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Miyako Matsumoto - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:45:40 EST s2JxQMZc No.6251954 Reply
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Is Jordynne Grace the Queen of the Indies?
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Layla - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:49:15 EST ay4/VUx9 No.6251958 Reply
*puts on tinfoil hat*

so does this "NJPW are still mad at TNA for stuff that happened years ago" news from Meltzer feel kinda unnecessary? He doesn't actually know that, he's just speculating, and it's much more likely due to NJPW's partnerships with ROH and CMLL.

but timing wise, it couldn't come at a worse time for Impact who are running Slammiversary next to NJPW in Dallas. If your strategy was to stop NJPW fans from buying tickets to see Impact, then you couldn't have a better way of doing it than the way Meltzer has reported this story.
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Dr. Death Steve Williams - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 19:04:39 EST YhuTqZ9b No.6251962 Reply
>>6251958
Agreed. They obviously like Don a lot to continue bringing him in even after he became an exec at Impact, so if they were open to working with companies other than ROH in the US (well... canada...) they would probably be open to talking to Don.

Plus, didn't they let Ishimori work some Impact shows shortly after he signed with NJPW, using the Bullet Club gimmick? Or did he like... still have contractual obligations to Impact at that time?
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Sonjay Dutt - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 19:52:29 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6251979 Reply
>>6251958
This is enthusiastic
It's not unnecessary at all

>He doesn't actually know that
do you know what actually is the heat between NJPW and Impact, then?

>it couldn't come at a worse time for Impact who are running Slammiversary next to NJPW in Dallas
It doesn't matter at all
not every wrestling fan takes what Meltzer as gospel, despite whatever retards on this board say
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Don West - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 21:34:56 EST B9avUTPV No.6252045 Reply
>>6251958
what the fuck is wrong with TNA fans brains' that makes them this way
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The Iron Sheik - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 21:46:06 EST IEWTZ52t No.6252054 Reply
>>6252045

TNA fans suffer from an extreme victim complex. Even though everyone agrees (even Meltzer and Alvarez) Impact is in the top 3 weekly wrestling shows, if not the best wrestling show today, they still have to be angry and upset when people correctly point out their low viewership and shit tv station. They’ll shit all over WWEs low viewership and abysmal dog ass product, but they can’t take it when people mock them for touting 12k viewers on Twitch.
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Athena - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 21:54:16 EST gh69CKgg No.6252056 Reply
>>6251979
I want you to embrace the irony of this:
>not every wrestling fan takes what Meltzer as gospel, despite whatever retards on this board say

In light of >>6252054 's
>Even though everyone agrees (even Meltzer and Alvarez) Impact is in the top 3 weekly wrestling shows, if not the best wrestling show today

IMPACT is great televison, IMPACT fans bring the lolTNA.
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Droz - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 22:33:18 EST IX5coWMM No.6252087 Reply
>>6252045
lolrng

Also, did you miss the line about putting on a tinfoil hat? That post is clearly satirical.
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Fritz Von Erich - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 22:44:04 EST iVSK5WcY No.6252101 Reply
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>>6252054
you got it backward
people keep talking about tv ratings (not always correctly, mind you) as if they're the ultimate indicator of quality forgetting that the show had to jump from tv deal to tv deal regardless of how it was received, killing most of the casual userbase
cry muh victim complex all you want, but almost all discussions i had about impact here are about people reminiscing stuff from 7-10 years ago that "burned them too many times :(" which is laughable because the show has been consistently good for more than half a decade now and they'd be ready to jump at the first booking mistake to remind you that "tna is always tna"
man shit gets repetitive after a while
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George The Animal Steele - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 22:54:01 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6252119 Reply
>>6252087
Doesn't read that way. It reads more like a pre-emptive damage control measure. Like whenever Ryan Satin goes "no disrespect, but..."
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Alberto Del Rio - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:00:57 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252125 Reply
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what's the verdict?

meh imo
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:02:39 EST It2BUKqt No.6252126 Reply
>>6252125
Would you say the fans expecting a better card were...Jebaited?

...

...I'll see myself out.
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Josh Matthews - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:04:11 EST mOOTd+jR No.6252128 Reply
>>6252125
Trios match should be fun & Daniels/CIMA are both two old guys that can still go when counted on, so that'll probably be the MOTN for me.

Beyond that, pretty skippable card.
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Fritz Von Erich - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:06:15 EST iVSK5WcY No.6252131 Reply
>>6252125
this... is actually not half bad
dont care about 6 men tag and the fatal 4 way but everything else looks to be at least decent
i hope cody's streak of not being a static shit in the ring continues
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:15:32 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6252133 Reply
>>6252125
Laredo Kid is gonna teaming with Lucha Bros? He's definitely gonna be able to get his shit in and get more notice like Bandido did at ALL IN.
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Hallowicked - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:24:54 EST M1ahJWky No.6252137 Reply
>>6252101
>people reminiscing stuff from 7-10 years ago that "burned them too many times :(" which is laughable because the show has been consistently good for more than half a decade now and they'd be ready to jump at the first booking mistake to remind you that "tna is always tna"
man shit gets repetitive after a while

Exactly, there are still tons of Stamford wife (cause it is always Stamford wives) that are ready to scream lol tna at the first sign and apply a standard to Impact that no other company gets
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Droz - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:25:58 EST IX5coWMM No.6252138 Reply
>>6252125
I wasn't planning on watching. If Laredo Kid was in a singles with someone who can work his match, that might have changed my mind. The trios will probably be good but it's not the same kind of draw.

So, from the perspective that I'm not going to see this anyway... I'm hoping that the women's match is an effort to build up Nyla. CIMA and Daniels will probably have the best match of the night. I don't what they're thinking with that pre-show. Overall the card lacks variety - though that's common for North American wrestling at the moment - but they might have an unannounced match to help break it up. (e.g. If they're going to drop in a comedy match there's no point in trying to use that to sell tickets.) Overall, it probably doesn't matter how good this show is because the people who were going to buy it are going to buy it and the people who weren't are not.
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Alberto Del Rio - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:39:20 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252141 Reply
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Looks like Mox is already US TV exclusive to AEW.

can't image its helping the AEW-NJPW deal that he's not going to be on the Dallas show
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Prince Nana - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 00:23:04 EST KxeInPTR No.6252149 Reply
>>6252141
Wasn't the Dallas show supposed to be A Block anyway? I haven't followed G1 closely since they started these US shows.
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Michael Kovac - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 05:24:17 EST WmBjFW/J No.6252191 Reply
>>6252149
The reason why he's in the A Block is because AEW wouldn't let him work Dallas. Since that's an A Block show, he had to be in the B Block.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 07:09:21 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6252221 Reply
>>6252149
Yeah it's an A Block show since it's an odd numbered day. Really Mox would have only been able to in a tag team match or something.
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Xavier Woods - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 07:56:46 EST jEGuiRVR No.6252224 Reply
>>6252054
Maybe because low viewership and a shitty station has nothing to do with the quality of the product?

Can't people just enjoy wrestling? Why do I need IMPACT to get 500k viewers for me to enjoy it and for me to be allowed to sing its praises.
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:24:32 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252234 Reply
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Court dishes on why Sami got let go from MLW
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Lady Apache - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 10:19:02 EST GXHNtkkw No.6252251 Reply
>>6252234
>it's another "Court cries about somebody he can't afford" match
SAME OLD SHIT
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 11:01:08 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252267 Reply
>>6252257
>>6252251
>PWInsider reports that Major League Wrestling (MLW) has parted ways with Sammy Guevara. According to a source close to MLW, Guevara double-booked himself on certain MLW dates, including the Superfight event. As a result, both parties decided the best move was for them to go their separate ways.

>Meltzer also reports that Puma King is done with the promotion as he double booked himself during WrestleMania Weekend. Puma King reportedly booked himself from WrestleCon and MLW on Apr. 4. Mike Johnson of PWInsider confirmed that Puma King is finished with the company, noting that "it would have been impossible to push him if they couldn't be assured that MLW was his priority." ... Regarding Puma King, we’ve confirmed that all issues regarding his booking for the WrestleCon super shows on MLW on the same day were taken care of, that he was to work early on the WrestleCon shows to give him time to make it to MLW, but MLW decided against using him going forward. MLW told Puma King that it was a budgetary reason he wouldn’t be used. It’s interesting because MLW has been heavily going after the Mexican audience, and Puma King was one of the few Mexican stars they were using. ... Court Bauer continued to claim that Puma King was not taken off shows for budgetary reasons. He said he told Konnan to tell Puma King that he was taken off shows because he double-booked himself. However, several people involved have told us that Puma King had booked dates with WrestleCon before he got MLW dates, and when he got the MLW dates, WrestleCon and Konnan worked everything out so he could do both shows. He and those close to the situation thought there was no issue until reading in the Observer that he was no longer being used. They claim Konnan told Puma King he wasn’t being used any longer for budgetary reasons. Bauer said that’s not the case and Puma King was not an expensive piece of talent and they are going to bring in a new wrestler from Mexico in his spot as a replacement who they will be paying roughly the same for.

>Lucha star Daga is done with Major League Wrestling. Daga was booked for the promotion's 6/1 date in Wisconsin, but pulled out at the last second, citing that he had scheduled a vacation. MLW sources claimed they later learned he was actually working dates in Mexico instead and have dropped him from all future bookings. As you might imagine, the DAGA side takes issue with the MLW version of events that led to the lucha star's departure. We'll have more on that shortly.

>MLW confirmed shortly after that Rush had been pulled from his scheduled match against La Park during WrestleMania weekend and would be replaced by Pentagon Jr. “With great reluctance Rush has been forced to withdraw from his April 4th match against LA Park,” MLW wrote. “Despite efforts by MLW, Rush was pulled due to the insistence of a third party promoter.” MLW CEO Court Bauer added, “This is a match and organization Rush wanted to be a part of, but sometimes politics get in the way and that’s what this comes down to: politics.”
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 11:14:19 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6252278 Reply
>>6252272
I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up in AEW given that they're working with AAA and stuff.
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 11:14:49 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252280 Reply
>>6252275
Jordynne Grace is getting a push, has good matches and is happy with her pay & the locker room in Impact. Why would you want her to leave?
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 11:18:54 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252285 Reply
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>The inaugural Fight for the Right Tournament in 2006 consisted of three stages. The first stage of the tournament was a Reverse Battle Royal, with three parts. The first part had all 18 participants start outside the ring and fend off opponents in an attempt to get into the ring. When seven wrestlers have entered, other competitors are eliminated and it becomes a traditional battle royal with over-the-top-rope eliminations. When all but two are eliminated, it becomes a singles match, the winner of which advances directly to the final (third stage) of the tournament. Stage two consists of a single-elimination tournament consisting of the six wrestlers eliminated in the second part of stage one. The pairings were determined by their order of elimination in the first stage. The first round featured singles matches and the final was a Triple Threat match. The winner of the tournament is then decided in the tournament final: a singles match between the winner of stages one and two.
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Jakob Hammermeier - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:36:24 EST yCw7X2Jg No.6252329 Reply
>>6252282
Yeah lots of wrestlers work not under contract. That was some bullshit non-story that PWinsider attempted to dish out.
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Haruna Akagi - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:38:22 EST sGZwff1s No.6252331 Reply
>Wrestler is on the wresting promotion you shill for
They are so great, you guys should watch

>That wrestler leaves the promotion you shill for
They were never good. I'm glad they are gone so the show will be better.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:43:33 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6252337 Reply
>>6252329
Yeah they're almost all on per-date deals except for wrestlers like Moose and Eddie Edwards.
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Xavier Woods - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:49:49 EST jEGuiRVR No.6252343 Reply
>>6252331
Not one person has ever listed Scarlett Bordeaux as a reason to watch IMPACT. She's purely eye candy. Someone like her leaving just isn't a big deal.

They've signed numerous guys and girls to longer contracts in the last couple of months, but yeah it's LOLTNA because some girl who takes up 2 minutes of a weekly show wanted to leave. I don't even think they used her on a single PPV.

Kross would be a miss because that guy is money, but if WWE are willing to give him big money to spend 2-3 years in NXT and he's happy to do that, what can IMPACT do? They're not going to fuck up their whole pay structure to keep a guy like Kross happy who was a literal nobody a year ago. That is poor management and business and that's the kinda thing that will piss off the rest of the locker room and cause bad morale.
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:50:14 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252344 Reply
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>>6252331
link to the post that says that

tbh, Scarlett isn't that good of a wrestler and was fun as eye candy doing impact vignettes, managing Fallah and fighting ove and Disco. Her options are WWE or AEW or bust. MLW is Impact on a smaller budget AND NO WOMENS DIVISION. ROH is purgatory and she'd just be involved with the Allure LOL. I'm really not interested in watching Penelope Ford vs Allie vs Scarlett and being told its "great womens wrestling"
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:54:06 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252348 Reply
>>6252338
>DiscussPW
you could also just, i dunno, ignore them?

Its so weird that a few people who follow @TrevorDame on twitter are *obsessed* with monitoring the every comment from a forum of three tnamecca weirdoes.

>OMG did you guys see what the obsessive losers of DPW said today?! lol lemme screencap it for you
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Xavier Woods - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 13:04:31 EST jEGuiRVR No.6252358 Reply
>>6252338
You might wanna explain what that is and why it is relevant in this thread?
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 13:05:31 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252359 Reply
>With Scarlett Bordeaux being granted her release, the natural question that has been asked is whether Killer Kross is receiving one as well. We have been told by multiple Impact Wrestling sources today that at this point, Kross will not be receiving a release and will continue to work for the company.

>There were some in the company unhappy that Petey Williams provided Kross the forum on his podcast to speak out about his issues with the company, specifically since Williams is not just a talent but a Producer. As previously noted, there's been unhappiness that Kross spoke out at all in the interview.

>With Rafael Morfi departing to work for AEW full-time after Slammiversary weekend, the company will be seeking someone new to handle their live event bookings. Currently, we are told the company has all their TV taping and PPV dates and venues through October locked in so there is no immediate rush to find someone.

>In regard to rumors of Davey Boy Smith Jr. potentially coming in, there's been interest in him going back several years in him. There's no word whether he is coming in. Smith is currently under a MLW deal.
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 13:10:45 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252364 Reply
>>6252362
better to be a paid tnamecca shill than a tnamecca stalker who does it for free
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Lash LeRoux - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 13:26:47 EST g0JhSpRF No.6252373 Reply
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eehm... Isn't tnamecca dead? didn't the owner faked his death and closed the website when users found out he was only pretending to be dead? and why are some of you so obsessed with three or four ex-mecca guys posting on other websites? what's next? discussing youtube and circlejerk comments?

summer sucks.
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Cheyenne Cher - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:06:26 EST BxsoGG2K No.6252393 Reply
>>6252280
She can have more success elsewhere. She's already on AEW's radar as she worked All In. No doubt she'd be offered more money there, weekly tv on TNT vs whatever Impact is on these days. Seems a no brainer to me. Impact is small time and she's unique enough to be more than small time.
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Cheyenne Cher - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:08:35 EST BxsoGG2K No.6252395 Reply
>>6252394
please Impact picked her up because she got some buzz on the indies
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Hallowicked - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:12:18 EST M1ahJWky No.6252396 Reply
>>6252395
  • most people in wrestling fandom wouldn't care about her if it wasn't for Impact
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:14:20 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252397 Reply
>>6252395
>Impact picked her up because she got some buzz on the indies
is that supposed be a bad thing for Impact?

And newsflash: the indies are not that big. even if Impact is only pulling a few thousand on twitch thats still more than the few hundred that saw her on Powerbomb TV's stream of black label pro.

> She's already on AEW's radar as she worked All In. No doubt she'd be offered more money there
If AEW wanted her, they would have made her an offer already. She was free agent up until a month ago. If AEW really wanted her, they would have offered more than what Impact was offering.

They didn't do those things. Impact gave her the better deal.

>She can have more success elsewhere.... weekly tv on TNT
you're already so sure that AEW's TV show is going to be at a certain level of success when it doesn't even exist yet. There's no air date yet, no running time yet, no indication of how many segments non-joshi women will be getting on TV each week.
They've already got a handful of female talents signed.

And the reality is: Impact's knockouts are better wrestlers than AEW's women wrestlers. I'd put Tessa, Taya, Madison, Rosemary & Havok above Britt Baker, Allie and Penelope Ford. Gail Kim's a better agent than Brandi Rhodes
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Josh Matthews - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:15:23 EST mOOTd+jR No.6252398 Reply
>>6252275
IIRC, she already re-signed & seems to be happy working there.
You could just watch her in IMPACT instead of waiting on her to go somewhere else
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Cheyenne Cher - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:27:10 EST BxsoGG2K No.6252400 Reply
>>6252397
>is that supposed be a bad thing for Impact?
your point was nobody would know who she was before Impact which is pure bollocks.

>If AEW really wanted her, they would have offered more than what Impact was offering.
Nobody knew she was not under contract during that time until recently so I doubt she got offers from places that thought she was under contract since offers don't magically end contracts.

>you're already so sure that AEW's TV show is going to be at a certain level of success when it doesn't even exist yet.
it's on TNT, multitudes more viewers, way more eyeballs on you. Even if the show ends up a dud if you perform well in the ring your career will benefit more than it would staying in a going nowhere promotion like Impact.

>Impact's knockouts are better wrestlers than AEW's women wrestlers.
One division is brand new and has had one match, the other is established. It'd be embarrassing if Impact's division wasn't better

>I'd put Tessa, Taya, Madison, Rosemary & Havok above Britt Baker, Allie and Penelope Ford.
You'll see most of them in AEW over the next couple of years anyway. Like I said, Impact is small time in comparison. It's now a stepping stone that you will see more men and women use as things move forward.
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:32:05 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252402 Reply
>>6252400
>your point was nobody would know who she was before Impact which is pure bollocks.
somebody else made that point friendo, but if you want to get literal, then yes it wasn't "nobody" but Impact 100% boosted her platform in a way that not even being in the all in battle royal did.

>Nobody knew she was not under contract during that time until recently
lol. if you're not under contract, you're allowed to talk about it. Jordynne Grace did press when she signed explaining that she was fielding offers from impact and aew and liked what impact had to offer her more.

>Even if the show ends up a dud if you perform well in the ring your career will benefit more than it would staying in a going nowhere promotion like Impact.
So its better for her career to be in a widely seen dud as opposed to a lesser-seen better reviewed promotion?

> It'd be embarrassing if Impact's division wasn't better... You'll see most of them in AEW over the next couple of years anyway.
lmao you'll do anything to discredit Impact for any positive won't you?
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:39:24 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252404 Reply
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>I hope X leaves [Impact/ROH/MLW/NJPW/indies/AAA] and joins [AEW / NXT]

AEW really is playing to the lapsed WWE fan aren't they.
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:50:53 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252408 Reply
>>6252267
>As noted last week on PWInsider.com, Major League Wrestling dropped Daga from their roster, unhappy that he had told them he was unavailable for dates due to a vacation when they were starting a heel turn for him, only to learn he had wrestled in Mexico.

>In speaking today with Tessa Blanchard, who is dating Daga, PWInsider.com was told that MLW was informed well in advance that Daga was not available for the date in question, 6/1, as he was going to be in Guadalajara, Mexico for the christening of Rey Fenix's son. Fenix was involved in an event the next day in the same city and since Daga and Blanchard were in town for the christening, they stayed and worked the show as a favor for Fenix, as did Puma King, Pentagon Jr. and others who were in town for his son's christening.

>Blanchard noted that Daga loved working for MLW and would still want to continue there if given the opportunity. She also noted that one of his goals is to get more work this year inside the United States and there was concern that the MLW situation would lead to other promoters thinking Daga couldn't be trusted to take dates in the States. She felt that there was a belief in MLW that Daga didn't take the date because he'd be more comfortable staying in Mexico, but he was only in Guadalajara for the christening.

>PWInsider.com has reached out to MLW for comment and should they choose to respond, we will add it to this story.
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Don West - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:26:46 EST B9avUTPV No.6252416 Reply
man these TNA ragheads get testy as fuck when you point out Impact's severely diminished place in the wrestling food chain these days.
lol
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:35:14 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252418 Reply
>>6252416
oh fuck off, people are just tired of console wars shitposting using TV ratings as an arbiter for quality. By that logic, Raw is the best wrestling show on TV cuz it has the best ratings and Justin Bieber was the best music of the last decade.

>don't you get it jihadi, the show is creatively bad now because [the channel its on / something Dixie Carter did in 2007]
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Fritz Von Erich - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:39:31 EST iVSK5WcY No.6252421 Reply
>>6252419
no need to falseflag on imageboards don, we know impact is good
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Jonathan Coachman - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 16:27:04 EST w2Qrws/2 No.6252442 Reply
Just realized the threads are split.

>Tidbits from the recent Voices of Wrestling Patreon audio that aren't Gedo-related: Davey Boy Smith Jr is no longer with New Japan. Conflicting info on whether that was him quitting or being fired, but he wasn't exactly silent on social media with his feelings about his misuse there, and Archer worked on his own most of the year

>Also on the podcast, it appears Juice is done with ROH. He was unhappy working there, and he's not booked going forward. Lanza's unsure what this means for the future of Lifeblood or David Finlay when he comes back from injury

>Lanza expanded to say Juice was just one of the many New Japan talent who generally no longer like working for ROH. They feel it hurts their appeal, and a lot of them don't want to do it anymore.
https://lordsofpain.net/davey-boy-smith-jr-no-longer-working-njpw-juice-robinson-finished-with-roh/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
https://www.circlejerk.com/circlejerk/comments/c0t5vh/vow_davey_boy_smith_jr_done_with_new_japan_juice/
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Xavier Woods - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 16:32:37 EST jEGuiRVR No.6252444 Reply
>>6252416
No they don't. People just out here enjoying IMPACT, fam. It's water-heads like you running into every thread demanding every hate and laugh at IMPACT because it's a 'glorified indie'

News flash bruh, no one cares. We just enjoying IMPACT. We don't have stocks in the company, we don't concern ourselves with ratings or where IMPACT stands in the 'wrestling promotion power rankings'

Sure it'd be nice to see IMPACT get more eyes because it's a very good product, but I wouldn't care if it was just me and 10 wookies watching in the tubes. It's a good wrestling show.
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 17:12:35 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252464 Reply
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>>6252463
wonder how MLW's contracts compare to Impact's if Jordynne is also getting in on it
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Dino Bravo - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:28:50 EST YhuTqZ9b No.6252536 Reply
>>6252359
Is there a TL;DR on what the issues Kross and Bordeaux have with Impact are?
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:33:06 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252540 Reply
>>6252536
they found out how much some of the other people in impact are making and want more money
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:43:48 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6252552 Reply
>>6252442
>Lanza expanded to say Juice was just one of the many New Japan talent who generally no longer like working for ROH. They feel it hurts their appeal, and a lot of them don't want to do it anymore.

More of a reason for NJPW to partner up with AEW
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:46:55 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252559 Reply
>>6252552
I feel like people keep forgetting how complicated the CMLL-AAA dynamic is in all of this. NJPW is definitely not dropping their partnership with CMLL to hook up with the Young Bucks and Dorian Roldan.
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The Iron Sheik - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:49:26 EST IEWTZ52t No.6252562 Reply
>>6252536

They want to get paid more. TNA said no, so they asked for their release.

After resigning a contract last year, Kross wanted to restructure his contract to six figures over a three year deal. Impact countered with an offer for three years that would've totaled at less than a one year NXT contract, which is $45,000. It also came out that TNA is allegedly paying talent between $250 - $500 with no guaranteed dates.

Basically, Impact exists not to have career minded talent, but wrestlers who want exposure and are willing to work an indy grind schedule to earn money, with the idea being that TNA offers you the chance to gain more fans and a bigger name.

Kross and Bordeaux are looking to work exclusively for a company that can offer them a living wage without having to work indy dates. Kross has said that he's recently had to take on a bigger financial commitment for his family, so he needs a more secure paycheck than $300 and exposure on Twitch.

He signed the contract though, so he brought this on himself, even if the contract is total shit. All alleged, btw. Kross did an interview where he talks about the situation.
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:57:54 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252578 Reply
>>6252562
>Impact countered with an offer for three years that would've totaled at less than a one year NXT contract, which is $45,000
where'd you get that number?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:58:48 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6252581 Reply
>>6252559
Yeah that's really the only thing from making it happen. Problem is that ROH isn't that good right now that now NJPW wrestlers dread having to wrestle there.
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The Iron Sheik - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:04:20 EST IEWTZ52t No.6252589 Reply
>>6252578

Also nb, but if you're questioning the dollar amount, if I'm not mistaken Lio Rush is upset about his current contract, because he's on the main roster working under his NXT deal, which is $50,000 a year for three years.
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Doug Basham - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:04:28 EST y73oDH6a No.6252590 Reply
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Scarlett gone? Okay. If Kross wants to go, let him walk-it worked pretty well for E Li Drake, right?

But if this means Impact can get Solo Darling on more shows, I'm definitely up for that!
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:09:53 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252596 Reply
>>6252589
>>6252586
Oh that wrestlezone report; fwiw Kross himself said he was pissed about the reporting that came out about all of this: https://www.ringsidenews.com/2019/06/03/killer-kross-is-very-fcking-angry-reports-about-impact-release-request-surfaced/

I feel like the only person who has used actual numbers when talking about how unhappy they were with their money was KM, and as Scott D'Amore bluntly (and maybe dickishly?) told him on Twitter "we doubled your going rate"
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:11:06 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252600 Reply
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is this for Scarlett or for MLW
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Jamie Keyes - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:16:08 EST 9pklfiIJ No.6252605 Reply
>>6252600
I hate these vague tweets, if you have something to say to somebody, tag em or shut up
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El Santo - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:18:46 EST EUXYnn8l No.6252608 Reply
>>6252562
>Impact countered with an offer for three years that would've totaled at less than a one year NXT contract, which is $45,000.

whether these numbers are true or not, it should be reminded that Impact are not expecting their talent to show up 5 days a week 4 weeks a month to work. They are contracted for tv tapings only. which are like 2-5 days a month. Comparing it to WWE is a comparison that only goes so far.

>It also came out that TNA is allegedly paying talent between $250 - $500 with no guaranteed dates.

not the long term talent for sure. If you're a loyal and long term worker for Impact, like Eddie, Moose, Tessa, etc you probably have one of the best contracts in wrestling when it comes to money per appearance.


>Kross and Bordeaux are looking to work exclusively for a company that can offer them a living wage without having to work indy dates.

so...wwe?

>he needs a more secure paycheck than $300 and exposure on Twitch.

source on Impact paying him $300?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:41:58 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6252632 Reply
>According to PWInsider, ROH has re-signed Jonathan Gresham to a new deal and has added to the Women Of Honor division by signing Maria Manic.

Gresham is head trainer of the ROH Dojo so it makes sense to re-sign him and he'd still be able to wrestle for NJPW. Maria Manic isn't that great though but god, the Women of Honor division is a dumpster fire.
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RegalMachine RGM-79 !Ro1w0thJao - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:43:45 EST 9+kvF4WR No.6252633 Reply
>>6252605
It's a girl thing.
As in even nonfamous females post like this.
Some guys do it but they're your primadonna wuss types.
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:55:43 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252643 Reply
figure its worth highlighting these quotes from Eli Drake that came out yesterday. So this is *after* he was fired by Impact and potentially held with a non compete:

>"As far as backstage, the morale has always been good. It's very relaxed backstage. No one's walking on eggshells and there's no one stabbing another in the back. It's always been really good."

As for those rumors that Impact was always about to go out of business, Drake reasoned why those were so common.
>"I feel like that's just the new Twitter troll environment that we've created. They wish bad upon other people because misery loves company. Those aren't real wrestling fans because if they were, you wouldn't want to see a company go away," said Drake.

>"I will say, since Anthem came in the actual structure of everything seemed a little more sturdy. Even when we heard those [rumors] again, we thought, 'Okay, we're good.'"

>"I was one of the top paid guys at Impact, thankfully. With that money, I invested a bunch of it and I've been taking classes on learning day trading with stocks," stated Drake. "I was thinking about getting into real estate, but that's a little bit too much of an investment right now. But I've been day trading stocks and I've been doing it pretty successfully."
https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2019/06/eli-drake-on-aew-early-success-655323/
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Don West - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:57:22 EST B9avUTPV No.6252644 Reply
>>6252633
It's attention whore drama queen shit and is not limited exclusively to either gender.
It's just a thing that cunty people do.
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Kenny Omega - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 20:00:29 EST LUMg+nxK No.6252646 Reply
>>6252605
Yeah, passive-aggressive stuff like this grinds my gears, if you have a problem with someone just say it
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Ken Patera - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 20:08:14 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252657 Reply
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>>6252562, >>6252586, >>6252596, >>6252608
so this is interesting...

I was just checking out KM on Twitter to see if he was putting Impact on blast any more since last week. He's not trashing them but he has been arguing with people for like a week, explaining that Impact has problems and he wants them to get fixed.

He's also plugging a lot of appearances he's doing *with* Scarlett & KM (https://twitter.com/Superstar_KM/status/1137241308748271616 + https://twitter.com/Superstar_KM/status/1140722911164207104 + https://twitter.com/Superstar_KM/status/1140700026311729152)

And then in one of these arguments he's having, he just randomly drops the fact that he's Scarlett's booking agent
If that's the case, it makes a sense that the three of them are unhappy together and putting the company on blast publicly together
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Jushin Thunder Liger - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 21:09:28 EST GXHNtkkw No.6252704 Reply
>>6252657
oh hey that's like what that journalisiting thing before it was just writing shitty blogs
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Elix Skipper - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 21:17:57 EST IX5coWMM No.6252709 Reply
>>6252657
What KM's saying about Impact being in dire straits as a business is absolutely true and not exactly blasting the company. Anthem bought a money mark promotion that had been losing money for years and have been doing everything they can to cut costs and increase revenue. Some of that is positive - their new merchandise actually looks like stuff that I'd be caught dead in - and some of it is negative stuff like clamping down on wages.

They probably have a long way to go before becoming the kind of promotion that Kross and Scarlett want to work for. On the flip side the people who want to be completely exclusive are going to shuffle off to WWE or AEW and Impact will be left with indie wrestlers who are happy to take the monthly taping as part of their schedule.
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Ken Patera - Wed, 19 Jun 2019 11:03:31 EST BlrIoG3o No.6252977 Reply
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BASED but what of Cornette?
>This summer one of wrestling’s most beloved voices returns to the broadcast booth to call Major League Wrestling’s flagship weekly series MLW FUSION.

>Major League Wrestling confirmed today that legendary commentator Tony Schiavone returns to the airwaves this July alongside Rich Bocchini.

>Revered as one of the sport’s most iconic voices, Schiavone has anchored the broadcast team for MLW FUSION on and off since the series premiered on beIN SPORTS in April 2018.

>“Just like the fans, I’ve been hoping for Tony’s return and this summer it happens,” said MLW CEO Court Bauer. “Tony is one of the most talented broadcasters in the sport.”

>Major League Wrestling’s flagship series MLW FUSION airs on beIN SPORTS Saturday nights at 9pm EST / 6pm PST.

>A television and radio sports broadcaster for decades, Tony has called some of the sport’s most memorable matches and moments. A lifelong fan, Tony has worked for WCW, Jim Crockett Promotions and WWE on air as a play-by-play man as well as behind the scenes as a TV producer.

>In January 2017, Tony debuted his popular weekly podcast on the MLW Radio Network available every Monday called What Happened When with his podcasting tag team partner Conrad Thompson.

>When not podcasting, Tony can be heard in the booth for the Gwinnett Stripers. Tony also works for Sports Radio 92.9 The Game and can be heard anchoring sports each morning on Atlanta’s Morning News as well as hosting Pro Wrestling Wednesday. Tony is a member of the Georgia Bulldogs Radio Network and works on the post game show during both home and away games.

>Tony also writes and produces the Best of the Bulldogs, which won the AP Award for Best Sports Program in 2004. In 2006, Tony won the Georgia Association of Broadcaster Award for Best Sports Story or Series.
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Pitbull - Wed, 19 Jun 2019 11:07:36 EST q+CXX7jY No.6252980 Reply
>>6252977
>“Just like the fans, I’ve been hoping for Tony’s return and this summer it happens,” said MLW CEO Court Bauer.
Corny getting fucking BURIED
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Axl Rotten - Wed, 19 Jun 2019 11:18:20 EST M1ahJWky No.6252983 Reply
>>6252709
>They probably have a long way to go before becoming the kind of promotion that Kross and Scarlett want to work for.

they literally have been working for them this past year.

>the people who want to be completely exclusive are going to shuffle off to WWE or AEW

not everyone can go to those companies. there's not an infinite amount of places

>Impact will be left with indie wrestlers who are happy to take the monthly taping as part of their schedule.

very strange wording on your part, but more accurately, Impact (and ROH and MLW) will have the pick of indie wrestlers who won't be in AEW or WWE for whatever reason (not necessarily because they aren't good enough, wrestling is a very petty industry). For the very best, they will be able to offer them very generous contracts based on their expected rate of appearance.
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Ken Patera - Wed, 19 Jun 2019 12:20:17 EST BlrIoG3o No.6253010 Reply
>>6253001
He should be, as should Schiavone. They're both still firing at all cylinders. I'd be fine with Cornette transitioning to a manager or a "mlw match maker" character like he did in TNA/ROH
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Elix Skipper - Wed, 19 Jun 2019 13:48:01 EST IX5coWMM No.6253052 Reply
>>6252983
>w-what makes you think that Kross and Scarlett don't want to work at Impact?!
>how dare you suggest that unhappy people will leave and happy people will stay!
The "persecution complex" thing is a dumb meme but this comes across like you've been spending too much time arguing with the lolTNA trolls.
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Daizee Haze - Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:15:36 EST iVSK5WcY No.6253073 Reply
>>6253052
i read that twice and i still dont see where you got that impression
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Jimmy Garvin - Wed, 19 Jun 2019 16:06:46 EST cN9/6/IG No.6253142 Reply
>>6252513
Well Taya is right. Scarlett and Killer Kross seem to think they are gods gift to this earth and that kind of attitude isn't going to go well for them down the line. Don Callis is also really close with Kenny Omega and some of the AEW guys. I'm not sure what they think they are doing by causing all this bullshit. Stuff like this doesn't go unnoticed. Not respecting the company that built you and gaev you a platform is bad sportsmanship and I'm curious to see what happens with those two. Hope they end up in WWE purgatory tbh.
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Krazy K - Wed, 19 Jun 2019 16:58:40 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6253166 Reply
>>6253142
>Scarlett and Killer Kross seem to think they are gods gift to this earth and that kind of attitude isn't going to go well for them down the line
Nigga, they just want to be paid more than the pennies Impact were giving them
There's literally nothing wrong with this, you can't keep wrestling for a hot dog and a handshake in their position.
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Daizee Haze - Wed, 19 Jun 2019 17:25:40 EST iVSK5WcY No.6253177 Reply
>>6253166
impact is a part time company they need to show up to 5 times a month
the fact that they dont take any indie bookings in all the free time they have is on them
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Ken Patera - Wed, 19 Jun 2019 18:50:39 EST BlrIoG3o No.6253212 Reply
>It's no secret that things haven't gone well between Impact and Pursuit which was highlighted by the network airing a re-run of Impact instead of a new episode recently. That has sparked more conversation about Impact needing to find a new home and Konnan addressed why Pursuit isn't the best option when he spoke to Wrestling Inc. on today's edition of our WINCLY podcast.
"First of all no one can get the channel and second of all it's a hunting channel," said Konnan. "It doesn't matter how good you are if no one is watching you. And that's a problem because we're real good right now. …No one can really see it unless you get it on Twitch and a lot of people don't wanna go on Twitch. So, I think them looking for a better platform, which I think they will find, will help image-wise, morale-wise and people will be watching a really good product."

>Konnan was asked which specific channel would be better, but he wouldn't say it because he doesn't want to give it away before Impact announces it.
"Just about anything…you could be on MTV3 and that would be better than being there," Konnan said of Pursuit.
"The place they are going is substantially better."
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Krazy K - Wed, 19 Jun 2019 18:56:17 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6253214 Reply
>>6253169
I don't have to be to say "nigga"
You do realize that street talk isn't exclusive to black people, yes?
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Octagón - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 13:25:15 EST Z0k0b8ES No.6253551 Reply
>>6252977
What's the obsession with Michael Clone? Why not just give the people what they want and put Schiavone with Cornette?
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Elix Skipper - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 18:26:09 EST yCw7X2Jg No.6253660 Reply
>>6253166
nah dude. they hired literally whos from AAA and within a year everyone knows who they are now. So they are bitching and moaning and posting photos of them on tropical islands getting back massages and studying weird monk traditions to look deep and interesting. Killer Kross's twitter is a amazing show and has been for a long time. They think they deserve more and maybe they do but when you are not thankful for the company that gave them a spotlight to begin with it makes you a pig headed ego driven nut sack. They're both obsessed with themselves.

When everyone else in the locker room seems to be happy it really says something. What team do you want to be on? KM, Killer Kross and Scarlett or Don Callis, Jordyne Grace, Tessa, LAX and the many others who say they enjoy working for impact.
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Chris Jericho - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 19:12:51 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6253681 Reply
>>6253334
Yes.
I lived in the US for some years and used slang among my hispanic peers. None of us got in troubly for saying "nigga"
Nb for off-topic. Drop this stupid argument.
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Chris Jericho - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 19:16:42 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6253684 Reply
>>6253681
*trouble

>>6253660
> they hired literally whos from AAA and within a year everyone knows who they are now
if they were literally whos, then why book them at all beyond doing the job a few times? Especially in a time period where they're not papering the attendance anymore, come on, use your head.

>When everyone else in the locker room seems to be happy it really says something
lol, no it doesn't
So if everyone else is happy getting paid in hot dogs and handshakes, then they should be as well? That's a stupid argument.

>what team do you want to be on?
What?
Don't turn this into some kind of us vs them bullshit. If it's better for them to leave Impact, then let them go. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

>bawwww they took pics on tropical islands getting back massages they can't possibly be struggling

lol, you know nothing of how much social media is filled with people putting on a show
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Traci Brooks - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 19:36:06 EST gRErulqv No.6253694 Reply
>>6253660
>They think they deserve more and maybe they do but when you are not thankful for the company that gave them a spotlight to begin with it makes you a pig headed ego driven nut sack.
Can you explain a little better, in English, what you mean by this statement?
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Elix Skipper - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 19:37:37 EST yCw7X2Jg No.6253695 Reply
>>6253684
They were nobodies. Killer Kross and Scarlett Bourdeaux were not well known in the wrestling world. Period. Impact gave them an outlet to get their names out their and it worked. Maybe you should use YOUR head. The rest of your post is yellow texting anything I said and saying "lol" after. Killer Kross and Scarlett are egomaniacs who want more money because they refuse to work indie dates yet they work for a company that gives them 5 matches a month. Impact is not AEW. Impact is not NJPW. Impact is not WWE. It's not even ROH. They did nothing wrong but Kross and Scarlett slandering their name and being babies about the contracts THEY signed which gave their names better stock in the wrestling world is a shit move. People will notice this. Don't shit on the people that gave you the option to even go elsewhere.
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Elix Skipper - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 19:39:12 EST yCw7X2Jg No.6253696 Reply
>>6253694
I'm saying Killer Kross and Scarlett were not as well known as they are now before Impact. The wrestling world is now much more aware of them and like Taya was hinting at on her twitter post. You should remember those who gave you the stage to be who you wanted to be and not cry your way out of a contract because you think you are better.
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Traci Brooks - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 19:40:21 EST gRErulqv No.6253698 Reply
>>6253695
> they refuse to work indie dates
I see them advertising indy dates all the time?
Weird that.........
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Chris Jericho - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 19:49:21 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6253702 Reply
>>6253696
If they fuck with your business, nah, you don't have to.
>the wrestling world is much more aware of them
>therefore they have to accept being paid less than what they're worth
What's it like being such a boot licker?
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Kevin Thorn - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:26:29 EST yCw7X2Jg No.6253744 Reply
>>6253728
doesnt really change the fact that their being boners about everything
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Silver King - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:59:41 EST iVSK5WcY No.6253751 Reply
>>6253728
well i just did and aside from his AAA dates which count as indies for obvious reasons and killer kross worked 8 dates from the beginning of 2019 and a two weeks tour with cwe
amounting to a total of 40 matches in half a year
only twelve of those were from impact
thas two matches a month
how can you tell me with a straight face that killer kross isn't in the wrong here complaining about getting paid too little? of course guys like edwards, page and jordynne get paid more, they're also booked to wrestle more and impact should be entitled to use him as much as they please
like, sure you could say that maybe he deserves to be paid more per appearance, but what has he done to deserve it? he's not a former wwe guy, he's not a loyalist, he doesn't draw and he thinks his shit doesnt stink only because now cody is in pillaging mode and he's waiting to be called from him
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Kevin Thorn - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 23:46:50 EST yCw7X2Jg No.6253763 Reply
>>6253751
and honestly I have a feeling this bullshit works against his case when it comes to working with Cody. He can maybe go to NJPW but scarlett will be fucked.
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Prince - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 23:53:08 EST uleqncTe No.6253766 Reply
>>6253751
I dunno, maybe he deserves to be paid more because he's a fairly young decent worker with a good look and a unique character who can cut a promo and there's not a lot of guys in Impact who combine all that. Maybe he deserves to be paid more because Impact has already lost one of their top guys in the last few months and are so desperate for talent that they're bringing in guys like TJP and Michael Elgin that literally no one else wants and fucking 48-year old RVD is one of their top faces. Maybe he deserves to be paid more because he, along with LAX, Fallah Baah, Eddie Edwards, and maybe Moose, is one of the only Impact talents that actually feels like a guy Impact built and not just somebody they grabbed off the indies and didn't change anything about.

>he's not a former wwe guy
That would seem like a positive, if anything

>he's not a loyalist
Impact doesn't have those outside of Edwards and Petey Williams

>he doesn't draw
Impact hasn't had a draw since Alberto left, non-issue
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Kevin Thorn - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 00:02:57 EST yCw7X2Jg No.6253768 Reply
>>6253766
it seems like you just want to be mad about this. Killer Kross is in no spot to be asking for a raise. If he wants more money then he can leave. Which he is doing. That's not even the problem. The main problem is the way him and scarlett are shitting on Impact when all Impact did was book him in the main event and treat him like a star the entire time while letting scarlett grow in her gimmick. They should be leaving on better terms is what I am getting at. Shitting on the place that built you is dumb as shit and just makes you look bad. Doubles down on the ego self righteous stuff.
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Silver King - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 00:05:28 EST iVSK5WcY No.6253770 Reply
>>6253766

>Maybe he deserves to be paid more because Impact has already lost one of their top guys in the last few months
are you talking about aries? lmao
>and are so desperate for talent that they're bringing in guys like TJP and Michael Elgin that literally no one else wants
i do, they're good wrestlers
>and fucking 48-year old RVD is one of their top faces
*opener acts
>Maybe he deserves to be paid more because he, along with LAX, Fallah Baah, Eddie Edwards, and maybe Moose, is one of the only Impact talents that actually feels like a guy Impact built
he deserves the be paid more because impact booked him well? thats one more reason he should be grateful people give a shit about him
also "maybe" moose, the guy did the biggest character 180 ive seen in a wrestler in forever
>and not just somebody they grabbed off the indies and didn't change anything about.
such as...? ace austin? the mack?????
>That would seem like a positive, if anything
wwe guys bring in more eyes, that counts for impact, aew, new japan and everywhere else
>Impact doesn't have those outside of Edwards and Petey Williams
and lax, and rosemary, and jordynne, and madison rayne, and ove
>Impact hasn't had a draw since Alberto left, non-issue
knockouts draw, ecw guys draw, not a lot but they do
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Prince - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 00:20:58 EST uleqncTe No.6253774 Reply
>>6253770
>are you talking about aries? lmao
Was talking about Drake, but sure you can throw in Aries too since he was literally the top heel in the company before he left. Impact does not even remotely have the roster depth to be throwing people away at this point
>i do, they're good wrestlers
Aries was a good wrestler and Alberto really did move the needle when they were there too, doesn't change the fact that bringing in guys that have burned bridges everywhere else doesn't usually end well and is the definition of scraping the bottom of the barrel
>opener acts
Currently feuding with Moose, who's what, #3 on the heel depth chart? Seems like a main eventer to me
>such as...? ace austin? the mack?????
OVE, Swann, Cage, The North, Grace, Taya, Tessa are all valuable in various ways but aren't doing anything notably different from the indie acts they do or have done in a million other places. They don't feel special to Impact at all imo
>wwe guys bring in more eyes
Depends on the guy, and Impact doesn't have the money or leverage to bring in the kind of ex-WWE guy that would actually move the needle at all
>and lax, and rosemary, and jordynne, and madison rayne, and ove
Grace hasn't even been in Impact a year and Rayne just came back after being gone for 2 and only did so because WWE didn't want her and ROH is an unlivable hellhole for women, in what world do they count as loyalists
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Silver King - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 00:33:13 EST iVSK5WcY No.6253776 Reply
>>6253774
Was talking about Drake
last time Drake was a top guy was 2 years ago
>but sure you can throw in Aries too since he was literally the top heel in the company before he left.
not even the hardest tna/impact hater could think that aries leaving was a negative thing for the company, don't kid yourself
>Impact does not even remotely have the roster depth to be throwing people away at this point
they don't have the largest roster in the history of the company but they're still hiring/using more people than they're losing
>Currently feuding with Moose, who's what, #3 on the heel depth chart? Seems like a main eventer to me
with johnny impact as champion, elgin contending and ove doing an intergender feud he's a midcard act at best
>OVE, Swann, Cage, The North, Grace, Taya, Tessa are all valuable in various ways but aren't doing anything notably different from the indie acts they do or have done in a million other places. They don't feel special to Impact at all imo
they have storylines, which is what matters the most, LAX having a months long blood feud with the lucha bros is nowhere near the same as the two teams having a random match at some indie show, plus no, cage and tessa are absolutely not booked in the same way as he is in the indies, they feel like way bigger deals instead of being just another guy
>Depends on the guy, and Impact doesn't have the money or leverage to bring in the kind of ex-WWE guy that would actually move the needle at all
thats debatable, impact is in a position where they're very small, but being able to promote a known name on a weekly show does turn a few heads
>Grace hasn't even been in Impact a year and Rayne just came back after being gone for 2 and only did so because WWE didn't want her and ROH is an unlivable hellhole for women, in what world do they count as loyalists
madyson is literally the wife of the head commentator and despite being in and out for a few times she's been almost a costant presence for the history of most of the company
jordynne is young but she signed a years long contract and she's openly in good terms with the company so even if she's not a loyalist to the level of the veterans she's a good long term assett
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Chase Owens - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 08:19:29 EST ph5PgG/J No.6253832 Reply
It used to be smarks thought every wrestler deserved a turn as world champion and everyone was booked strong and no one should ever job because jobbing is "burying"

Now smarks think every wrestler deserves six figures regardless of performance, tenure and company.

You're gonna have to support unionizing if you want that.
BTW do we know how much non Elite guys are making for AEW? Is Brandon Cutler really making six figures?
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KENTA - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 13:32:09 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6253907 Reply
impact news:
>In regard to one of the most asked questions we receive about Impact, LAX remains in discussions with Impact Wrestling but have not yet signed a new deal with the company. We are told their current deal expires later this summer. Impact sources have noted getting LAX under a longer form deal is one of the their top priorities. LAX vs. The Rascalz is set for the 7/7 Slammiversary PPV.

>The 7/14 Fallout event being presented in conjunction with Destiny Wrestling will be a TV taping in Toronto.

>TJP has not officially signed with the promotion yet but the two sides are in conversation.

>There will be an Impact Plus event, a live Twitch special and a TV taping the weekend of 8/2-8/4 in California. Dates and venues will be announced next week.

>They will also tape in Mexico in August.

>There are no current NYC return plans.
PWI
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Low Ki - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 14:07:21 EST g0JhSpRF No.6253915 Reply
Why do i feel like KM is posting on this thread? nb
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Masaaki Mochizuki - Wed, 26 Jun 2019 04:39:44 EST 88NgqRn7 No.6256131 Reply
>All Elite Wrestling's Cody and MJF will face Taurus and Brian Cage on 7/18 for AAA 's event at Palenque de la Feria in Aguascalientes, Mexico. This will be MJF and Cody's official in-ring debut. The event will be headlined by Dr. Wagner Jr. & Pentagon Jr. & Psycho Clown vs. Blue Demon Jr. & Killer Kross & Rey Escorpion. Impact's Tessa Blanchard is also working the show, teaming with Keyra & Dave the Clown vs. Faby Apache & Taya Valkyrie & Nino Hamburguesa.

>The NWA has announced that Colt Cabana will not be competing this Friday at Ring of Honor's Best in the World PPV due to the hematoma on his quadriceps. Cabana had been slated to team with NWA Champion Nick Aldis against the Briscoes. The NWA announced Cabana's replacement would be revealed during the free pre-show broadcast for the PPV, which will also feature Rush vs. Flip Gordon.
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Masaaki Mochizuki - Wed, 26 Jun 2019 09:52:55 EST 88NgqRn7 No.6256252 Reply
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>Slammiversary on Sunday, July 7th will be a night that you will not want to miss. You can join us in Dallas, TX with tickets still available. You can order on traditional Pay Per View or you can order Slammiversary on Impact+ and for the price of $39.95, you get 3 FREE Months of IMPACT+ with your order of Slammiversary!

>IMPACT+ offers monthly specials like “Bash at the Brewery” or “A Night you Can’t MIST” and you can see past and current episodes of IMPACT Wrestling, plus our extensive library of past Pay Per View events.
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Kaz Hayashi - Wed, 26 Jun 2019 09:57:08 EST iVSK5WcY No.6256254 Reply
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>>6256252
not a terrible deal to push their new network tbh
also slammiversary is very close to selling out looking at the ticket sites, which if i'm not wrong should be at around 2000/2500 seats, making it impact's largest gate in a while
good for them
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Tsukushi - Wed, 26 Jun 2019 11:32:59 EST ld2XrF3p No.6256284 Reply
>>6256252
How are IMPACT still charging that kinda price for PPVs? I'm a big IMPACT fan, but wouldn't pay even half that for any wrestling show past or present.
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Masaaki Mochizuki - Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:28:52 EST 88NgqRn7 No.6256299 Reply
>>6256284
doesn't the cable company set the price for the PPVs? I don't think Impact can undercut the cost of the PPV without pissing off PPV providers (thats what happened when Vince launched the network)

Impact is just trying to find a way to add value to a $40 price point.

And beside what even is an "acceptable" price for PPV? People bitched about DON costing even more and thats unanimously praised sight unseen without TNA stink. Just because WWE tanked the value of Wrestlemania, it doesn't mean wrestling PPVs should be no more than $10

Big shows are still worth big price points and Slammiversary is one of two big Impact shows (and typically much better than BFG). Plus, since Redemption 2018, Impact had kinda earned back the value of their quarterly PPVs
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The People - Wed, 26 Jun 2019 13:06:59 EST DIKFKCIe No.6256323 Reply
>>6256319
>Eddie Edwards is about to murder and eat a priest
So all it took for him to stop being Eddie "Eddie Edwards" Edwards was to become a cannibal. Seems pretty simple in hindsight.
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Kaz Hayashi - Wed, 26 Jun 2019 13:22:16 EST iVSK5WcY No.6256332 Reply
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>>6256331
are you

are you the same guy who posts on the impact gamethreads on WWE?
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Kaz Hayashi - Wed, 26 Jun 2019 13:28:41 EST iVSK5WcY No.6256336 Reply
>>6256332
*the 4chins board about wrasslin
goddamn wooo and their retarded filters
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Masaaki Mochizuki - Wed, 26 Jun 2019 13:45:24 EST 88NgqRn7 No.6256349 Reply
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Killer Kross is doing his own sorta-Bloodsport in Las Vegas during Slammiversary weekend
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 13:40:26 EST UveV14Hw No.6257105 Reply
>>6256878
I thought Impact allowed wrestlers to take indie bookings though?
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Mike Chioda - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 14:07:37 EST yCw7X2Jg No.6257118 Reply
>>6256878
What...Impact lets their talents work indie dates. Those are just the new dates she is booked on because she is going to need to work now that she complained her way out of Impact with her boyfriend.
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Roxxi Laveaux - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 17:05:47 EST WuGJ2oLB No.6257220 Reply
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>>6251924
> On Monday 6/24 United States District Judge Waverly D. Crenshaw made several rulings in the Jeff Jarrett and Global Wrestling Entertainment’s lawsuit against Impact Wrestling’s parent company Anthem Sports & Entertainment.

> Several of the rulings were in Anthem’s favor. Anthem had been arguing that they did not fall under Tennessee’s jurisdiction, despite three sets of discovery requested by the plaintiffs and having to produce over 12,000 pages of documents. Judge Waverly agreed with Anthem, ruling with prejudice that Anthem Sports was dismissed from that count of the lawsuit for failure to state a claim or a lack of subject matter jurisdiction.

> The Judge also ruled that Jarrett and GWE’s allegations of copyright infringement were also dismissed. Anthem had argued that since GWE and Jarrett failed to copyright and trademark their GFW Amped! TV tapes and since Jarrett provided a license for Anthem to use the tapes, there could be no trademark infringement. Anthem argued that by law, Jarrett & GWE should have filed their copyrights or have been refused registration in order to claim copyright infringement in court. Since neither had happened – as Jarrett does not have physical possession of the GFW master tapes, which Impact has already admitted they deleted – Anthem argued that claim could not go forward in court. The court sided with Anthem and dismissed that count.

> All the remaining allegations against Anthem remain and are moving forward.

> Those allegations, as previously reported, include claims that Impact and Anthem violated state and federal trademark infringements in relation to GFE, violated Jeff Jarrett’s exclusive property rights to his own name, photograph, and other likeness, that Anthem has used “a reproduction, counterfeit, copy, or colorable imitation of the GLOBAL FORCE WRESTLING and GFW trademarks” in commerce, therefore they are in violation of the Lanham Act, which prohibits trademark infringement, trademark dilution, and false advertising. The lawsuit also claimed violation of the Lanham Act through alleged “acts of unfair competition” that were done “with the intent to deceive the public into believing that goods and services offered or sold by Defendants are made by, approved by, sponsored by, or affiliated with GFE.”

> The lawsuit also alleges that Anthem has "caused products and/or services to enter interstate commerce designated with variations" of the Global Force Wrestling and GFW trademarks. The filing claimed, "Defendants’ use of said designation and other representations constitute a false designation of origin which is likely to cause confusion, to cause mistake, and to deceive as to the affiliation, connection, or association of Defendants with GFE and as to the origin, sponsorship, or approval of such goods and services by GFE." This allegation would be an alleged violation of the Lanham Act.

> Yesterday, all sides were ordered to have all written discovery and deposition of all witnesses completed by 12/6. The court is also requesting that all expert witnesses be identified and disclosed by the same date with the depositions of those expert witnesses completed before 1/13/20.
https://www.pwinsider.com/article/127539/anthem-vs-jarrett-lawsuit-update-what-aspects-of-the-lawsuit-were-dismissed-this-week.html?p=1
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Sami Callihan - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 18:30:32 EST 88NgqRn7 No.6257267 Reply
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>MLW signed Shynron to a contract this week. He was originally trained by AR Fox and has worked in CHIKARA in the past but over the last 18 months, he's been working and living in South America and has become a big star for Chile Lucha Libre. He's also popped up in Mexico, Bolivia and Peru. MLW has high hopes for him.

>In regard to the debuting Timothy Thatcher's status, he has not signed with the company. MLW is interesting in signing him obviously, but as of yet, there's no contract involved. Thatcher keeps himself extremely busy internationally.

>Jimmy Havoc will return to the company at the 7/25 TV taping at the Melrose Ballroom in New York City.

>Ross Von Erich filmed some scenes for the upcoming Dwayne Johnson Fast & Furious spinoff film Hobbs & Shaw, which will be released this August.

>The 7/6 Chicago return is expected to sellout, which would be their third straight sellout in that market. There will be a live broadcast that evening with MLW Champion Tom Lawlor vs. Jacob Fatu and Myron Reed vs. Rey Horus at 9 PM EST on BeIN Sport, billed as Kings of Colosseum.
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Vince McMahon - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 18:37:14 EST Df0AfiP/ No.6257270 Reply
>>6257220
Jesus christ is Jarrett never not involved in some kinda lawsuit ?
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Kimona Wanaleya - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 19:03:02 EST uleqncTe No.6257298 Reply
>>6257270
considering the way Jarrett has continuously landed on his feet over the last few years I fully expect him to somehow end up in charge of Impact again at the end of this
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Hajime Ohara - Fri, 28 Jun 2019 13:27:27 EST 88NgqRn7 No.6257611 Reply
>>6257267
>MLW today announced Mance Warner vs. Bestia 666 (presented by Salina de la Renta for MLW: Kings of Colosseum at Cicero Stadium in Chicago.
cool
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Hieracon - Fri, 28 Jun 2019 18:54:42 EST GXHNtkkw No.6257782 Reply
was at the local 7 Eleven wearing my Pentagon jr hat, clerk asked me what I think of "that new wrestling network" meaning AEW, he sounded interested, and wasn't in-touch with wrassle shit enough that he was unaware of Heyman and Bischoff getting hired by WWE
seems there's at least some awareness outside the hardcore wrassle circles
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Bullfight Sora - Fri, 28 Jun 2019 18:58:56 EST uclwzNl2 No.6257787 Reply
>>6257782
There's definitely some rumblings from people that used to be fans. AEW also has crossover appeal with the gaming community, which is easy to get into and a very loyal demographic. Being that Omega has a presence in it, I think that has peaked some interest in people that haven't watched in a long time.
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British Bulldog - Sat, 29 Jun 2019 12:04:38 EST cN9/6/IG No.6258066 Reply
>>6257782
Ive had a bunch of people ask me about AEW who dont watch wrestling in the past month or so.
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Jey Uso - Sat, 29 Jun 2019 12:45:44 EST bWZ+YR1t No.6258088 Reply
>>6257787
This. I've gotten heat for saying it on here from the types that brag about not seeing "capeshit" movies and all that, but pro wrestling needs to embrace and be embraced by geek culture if it wants to reach its full potential for popularity and drawing power. You need those 20 and 30 somethings that are willing to spend a lot of entertainment dollars on your product.

I go to plenty of cons from NYCC to small local ones, and while wrestling often has a presence, some old timers signing autographs and taking pictures mostly, it's a niche within a niche. What I always wonder is why very few promotions actually run wrestling shows at cons. Space considerations aside, you have a new and receptive audience to reach out to.
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Lauren Brooke - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 03:39:10 EST iVSK5WcY No.6258770 Reply
>>6258741
not shit, i'll say
i'll mostly take a look at the weeklys only for the NWA stuff but there seems to be decent stuff here and there worth watching
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Ring Ryda Red - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 03:47:33 EST ytpEPA/P No.6258774 Reply
>>6258741
>alex shelley back
good
>rush and dragon lee vs briscoes
good
>lethal vs taven again, all signs point to >matt taven going over because alex shelley is apparently #1 contender
not good
>jeff cobb back to just being another rando in multiman matches
suck
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Britani Knight - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 19:51:01 EST VVw5QIUg No.6259268 Reply
>>6258741
So what was the point of Kenny King winning that best of 3 if he's just going back to the midcard and Lethal gets another title shot anyway?

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 30-06-2019 20:39:46
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Maxine - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 12:55:24 EST LI3WX/Ux No.6259673 Reply
Joe Lanza just confirmed on Voice of Wrestling's Patreon feed that Impact's weekly TV show is moving to AXS.
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Bryce Remsburg - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 12:57:11 EST 1/S/IEzo No.6259677 Reply
>>6259673
Is that better or worse? I know AXS also has NJPW but I don't have cable so I'm not sure if this is a bump-up or just more of the same.
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Bryce Remsburg - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 13:07:46 EST 1/S/IEzo No.6259695 Reply
>>6259685
>>6259679

Oh fuck me I thought they were still on PopTV, not a goddamn hunting channel. Holy shit, good for them.
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The Machine - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 13:10:51 EST iVSK5WcY No.6259702 Reply
impact getting on a better network is great news, but my real hope is that they go back to broadcast at 8pm
and on thursdays possibly

i wonder what will it become of the twitch channel
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Molly Holly - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 15:16:43 EST 88NgqRn7 No.6259777 Reply
>>6259673
>Important to note

>He says the deal isn’t done and there are some hold-ups.

>It was supposed to start in July after Slammiversary but there are outside factors holding the deal from being done that need to be resolved before they can make the move.

>So it’s not a confirmed move yet.
Saturday night block: Impact, WOW and NJPW
HOLY FUCKING BASED
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Molly Holly - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 16:19:37 EST 88NgqRn7 No.6259820 Reply
>>6259702
>i wonder what will it become of the twitch channel
the twitch channel will continue to stream old stuff 24/7 and still do live events. but i doubt its going to stream the latest episodes or if it does, it will be on much longer delay like 7 days or more.

Same goes for Impact Plus and the PlutoTV channels. Those are great ways to show case the libraries and do internet-exclusive bonus content, but AXS will probably be paying some money to be the **exclusive** home to Impact's weekly show in the US.

(Its also gonna be tricky because AXS is also on the air in Canada and Mexico and Impact has existing good deals in those countries)
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 14:10:07 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6260474 Reply
>>6259820
The AXS TV deal only applies to the US so Impact's international TV deals wouldn't be affected unless Anthem outright sold Impact to AXS.
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Little Fiji - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 10:13:11 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6261909 Reply
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>Taking place just two days before the annual summer pay-per-view extravaganza Slammiversary XVII, the confirmed line-up for Bash at the Brewery this Friday includes:
>Extreme Rules: Rob Van Dam vs. Sami Callihan
>IMPACT World Champion Brian Cage vs. Moose
>IMPACT Tag Team Titles: LAX (c) vs. The North
>Michael Elgin vs. Eddie Edwards
>Madman Fulton & oVe vs. Tessa Blanchard, Rich Swann & Willie Mack
>Havok vs. Jordynne Grace
>Rosemary vs. Su Yung
>Rebel & Katie Forbes vs. Christi James & Miranda Alize.
>A pre-show will air live on Twitch this Friday at 7:30 p.m. ET.

>Immediately following Bash at the Brewery, the weekly IMPACT! simulcast airs on Pursuit Channel and Twitch at 10:00 p.m. ET.

>Impact Wrestling's 2019 Bound for Glory PPV will be at the Odeum in Villa Park, IL, the site of ECW's Anarchy Rulz 99 PPV and numerous ECW and Ring of Honor events. The PPV will be on Sunday 10/20.
PWI
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Kenzo Suzuki - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 10:18:12 EST iVSK5WcY No.6261912 Reply
>>6261909
>Extreme Rules: Rob Van Dam vs. Sami Callihan
could be fine, definitely won't have a clear cut winner
>IMPACT World Champion Brian Cage vs. Moose
two hosses going at it, its not a new match but one that always delivers
>IMPACT Tag Team Titles: LAX (c) vs. The North
ehhh, not too excited about this one
>Michael Elgin vs. Eddie Edwards
could be MOTN if there's no bullshit involved, but i doubt thats gonna be the case
>Madman Fulton & oVe vs. Tessa Blanchard, Rich Swann & Willie Mack
solid, not amazing, but solid
>Havok vs. Jordynne Grace
jordynne is really good, not sure if havok can still go tho
>Rosemary vs. Su Yung
eh
>Rebel & Katie Forbes vs. Christi James & Miranda Alize.
ehhhhhhhh

as far as live event go this one doesn't look bad, will def watch it, happy to know they sold out
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Little Fiji - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 12:38:23 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6261971 Reply
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>>6261959
hmmmm I can't help but think this is all riding coattails
>The show will take place near Chicago at Cicero Stadium, and Bauer revealed that all of MLW’s world titles will be on the line.

>“This is a chance for MLW to make a statement,” said Bauer. “We want to give value to our fans. That’s why we’re charging only $19.95.”

>Available on all cable and dish carriers in the United States and Canada, Bauer is also in ongoing conversations for a deal to stream worldwide.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 14:28:38 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6262047 Reply
>>6261971
Didn't know Impact was doing Bound for Glory in Chicago again. Looks like it's taking place at the Odeum Sports and Convention Expo Center in Villa Park, which is where ROH does their shows. Not expecting the place to sell out though.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 14:45:22 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6262053 Reply
>>6262052
Chicago has always been a huge market for wrestling so it doesn't surprise me seeing all these major shows that are gonna take place there these next few months and that's not even including indie promotions like AAW, Freelance Wrestling, Warrior Wrestling and RISE.
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Chiva II - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 17:29:06 EST WoHJKzvu No.6262132 Reply
Will tomorrow's MLW be streamed live on here?
I know we got G1 and a bunch of other shit but I really wanna see Filthy vs Fatu, should be goodt af.
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George The Animal Steele - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 20:46:02 EST 6ASqwefg No.6263102 Reply
>>6263073
Tommy Dreamer is a superior upgrade to Spears tho?
What's the problem here?
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Jasmine St. Claire - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 02:13:11 EST mOskquiP No.6263282 Reply
>>6263073
already got reversed
mind you this was because fight for the fallen is the very next day and they were probably worried about him flying cross country and not making it
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El Santo - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 02:27:52 EST GmzCwV6J No.6263286 Reply
>>6263154
Fun fact: Those guys used to practice in a garage down the street from where I grew up. Pretty solid group, but It's still funny that he left Saosin to start circa just before Saosin blew up.
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The Mantaur - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 13:13:36 EST BlrIoG3o No.6263508 Reply
>Leva Bates and Peter Avalon didn’t impress many fans with their Librarian gimmick during the AEW Fyter Fest Buy In special. Some people remarked that they had “go away” heat. As it turns out “Go Away Heat” was the title of the newest episode of Being The Elite: https://youtu.be/IvdVWdAPnYU

>During the show’s intro, The Young Bucks were shown writing out their long-term booking plans. Just when Nick Jackson was about to cross the Librarians off the list, Leva Bates came in and said that fans loved the gimmick and she thanked the Bucks for this great opportunity and role before giving them a hug and going away.

>This is when Nick Jackson admitted he was about to nix them, but he’s considering them for a year-long storyline. Matt Jackson said that they should do a five-year storyline instead. He made plenty of allusions to how WWE is using Baron Corbin and his “go away heat” while saying that the Librarians can play double duty for shows and be special guests referees.

>Nick Jackson went as far as to say that they should give them a “Baron Corbin like push” even though they bleeped out the word “Corbin.” In fact, the “F’n Librarians” are going to be in the main event once AEW’s television show rolls around.
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JTG - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 13:40:57 EST iVSK5WcY No.6263523 Reply
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>>6263508
its really coded in their dna that they can't poke fun at themselves without mentioning wwe at least 3 times per sentences, uh
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The Mantaur - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 14:48:17 EST BlrIoG3o No.6263550 Reply
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>Former Impact Wrestling Champion Johnny "Impact" Hennigan finished his current run with Impact Wrestling at last night's Slammiversary PPV, losing to X-Division Champio Rich Swann.

>Hennigan's Impact Wrestling contract expired several weeks ago, but the two sides agreed that he would work through the PPV in order to close out his storyline with Swann. Impact sources confirmed that Hennigan is no longer under contract to the promotion, but noted the two sides are still in talks about continuing their relationship. That said, Hennigan is now free to negotiate and sign with any promotion.

>Hennigan, 39 years old, has been with Impact since 2017 and had really found himself in his current "Mayor of Slamtown" persona. Hennigan had a long run with WWE after winning the third season of their Tough Enough reality series, performing for the promotion through 2011 as John Morrison. Hennigan was also one of the top stars in the El Rey Network's Lucha Underground promotion, performing as Johnny Mundo. Over the course of his Impact run, Impact held the promotion's top title and has been one of the cornerstones of the company. He's also cultivated quite an acting resume in both independent films and TV series over the last several years. He has a new short horror film The Iron Sheik Massacre set for release this Fall.

>Hennigan's wife, Taya Valkyrie, is the current Impact Knockouts Champion. Her deal with the company is believed to run through the end of 2019.
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Jakob Hammermeier - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 14:56:58 EST 1/S/IEzo No.6263563 Reply
>>6263523
What makes it even more infuriating is that none of the people in that skit (Bucks, Leva, and that other dick who plays the other librarian) even spent a cup of coffee in the WWE, right? It's just a lame-ass little nod to New Generation WWF's worker-gimmick initiative and current WWE's "fuck you fans" booking, but the only people who get that are the people who watch BTE - and the ones who watch BTE thinks it's fucking shit, and the people who don't think it's fucking pointless; anyone who gets the joke isn't fucking laughing.

Fucking state of your creative, and it's only been six months.
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Karl Anderson - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 15:05:32 EST yCw7X2Jg No.6263570 Reply
>>6263550
Awh that's too bad man. I enjoyed Johnny Impact with John E Bravo lately.
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Malia Hosaka - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 16:12:58 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6263615 Reply
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>>6263563
>the state of you right now
Yeah, what a terrible creative team, one angle doesn't go well and they have the gall to have a laugh about it.
Jfc, this board is so childishly bitter.
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Jakob Hammermeier - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 16:30:10 EST 1/S/IEzo No.6263627 Reply
>>6263623
>>6263615

Yeah, went off the rails, but fuck this "well aren't we clever", wink-to-the-crowd shit. It's just irritating.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 16:40:28 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6263632 Reply
>>6263550
That sucks but he had a good run with Impact if he doesn't re-sign with them. I wouldn't mind seeing him in NJPW but I think realistically he'll probably end up back in WWE or go to AEW bringing Taya with him.
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Andy Leavine - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:33:43 EST yCw7X2Jg No.6264191 Reply
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>>6251924
Championship Wrestling From Hollywood is pairing up with Impact in Hollywood early August. Which means BAINES Vs MOOSE? BAINES Vs Fallah Bah?
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Texas Tornado - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 17:22:57 EST 9P2jdKq5 No.6264243 Reply
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So Tokyo Joshi Pro Wrestling revealed that Shoko Nakajima can't make their Nagoya show because she is now scheduled to appear at Fight for the Fallen
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Lizzy Valentine - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 17:42:59 EST M1ahJWky No.6264250 Reply
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>>6264243
disgusting that AEW would partner with a promotion that promotes anti vaxx conspiracies.

I'm done with them.
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Chyna - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 17:45:41 EST ckXtuTN6 No.6264252 Reply
>>6264250
raku fucking sucks anyway, worst member of the upupgirls ring back pinano
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Chief Jay Strongbow - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 19:11:18 EST A071Y4qB No.6264301 Reply
>>6264281
it is, not only for TJPW. not only for all the companies that are partnered with AEW, but for all smaller companies in the US and on a smaller degree even in general
AEW is doing exactly what Vince did for the territories back in the day but scaled to the indie scene
sure a lot of very talented wrestlers (and some that arent) involved will get lots of exposure, but does it matter when the whole scene will get hurt in the process?
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Lizzy Valentine - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 19:55:19 EST M1ahJWky No.6264318 Reply
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>>6264301
I agree with you generally but this is a bit different to AEW pulling wrestlers from shows like they did with Shawn Spears.

No one in TJPW is angry about this.
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Hulk Hogan - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 21:15:03 EST HfA4wvR0 No.6264378 Reply
>>6264301
Takagi definitely wants his brand to get exposure. As long as Shoko doesn't leave I'm fine with her doing the occasional match for them. She can some times be a little botchy going maybe too fast at times but when she's on she can get a good match out of damn near anyone (hell, she did it with Pinano of all people).

Guess it depends on who they put her with for this show. I'd hate to see her thrown against some shit like Britt Baker but against Shida or something should be fine. Only thing is that seeing as she's TJPW's top champ I can't imagine she'll be eating a pin in her match. If it's a singles she either has to get the win or a draw.

I don't know. Her leaving would be a huge blow for TJPW but I like her getting the opportunity and exposure.
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Chris Benoit - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:43:57 EST BlrIoG3o No.6264547 Reply
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>>6264546
eh... waste of Park.
tbh not a fan of Havoc. He's kringe incarnate to me and I'll be glad when he fucks off to AEW.
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Chilly Willy - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 10:57:20 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6265169 Reply
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>Impact Wrestling will hold three events next month in California with Impact Champion Brian Cage, Michael Elgin and Sami Callihan advertised.
>On Friday 8/2, the promotion will broadcast an Impact+ event Unbreakable from Santa Ana, California at the ESports Arena.
>Impact Wrestling will team with Dave Marquez's Championship Wrestling from Hollywood for a live Twitch special "Starstruck" on Saturday 3/3 at Florentine Gardens on Hollywood Boulevard in Los Angeles at 8 PM EST/5 PM Pacific.
>On Sunday 8/4, the promotion will hold a TV taping in conjunction with Championship Wrestling at the Oceanview Pavilion in Port Hueneme, California, CWH's usual TV taping location.

>We are told that Impact has been working on potential new logo designs for if and when they secure a new TV deal.

>Friday's Impact Wrestling will indeed feature the Madison Rayne vs. Jordynne Grace vs. Kiera Hogan bout that was taped prior to Bound for Glory in Dallas.

>Anthem Media filed a motion today asking for an extension through 7/17 to respond to the remainder of the most recent version of Jeff Jarrett and Global Wrestling Entertainment's lawsuit against them.
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Gran Akuma - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:15:29 EST U28QmYT+ No.6265175 Reply
>>6264547
I don't like havoc's gimmick, but he's perfectly good at wrestling Park's type of lucha extrema brawling style.
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Michael McGillicutty - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:20:53 EST Ybchf0OF No.6265176 Reply
>>6265169

>Friday's Impact Wrestling will indeed feature the Madison Rayne vs. Jordynne Grace vs. Kiera Hogan bout that was taped prior to Bound for Glory in Dallas.
>Bound For Glory
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Chilly Willy - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:24:54 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6265178 Reply
>>6265176
mike johnson is too busy clutching his pearls over impact using unsigned freelancers to correct his typos
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Chilly Willy - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:45:10 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6265189 Reply
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>>6265169
oh shit, didn't realize Impact was running head to head with Triplemania on Twitch
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Chilly Willy - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:33:21 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6265255 Reply
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>So MashUp at Fallout is starting to take shape! The first team is set and if this is any indication on how MashUp is going to down, it will be historic. Tessa Blanchard and Sami Callihan will be forced to team up and work as a unit if they want to survive! What will happen when Tessa and Sami are forced to work together?

>MashUp is not going to happen often, imagine having to work together with you arch rival? The person you loathe more than anyone! It will happen on Sunday and will air the following Friday on a brand new IMPACT Wrestling.
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Chris Candido - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:43:31 EST QQesQNiH No.6265258 Reply
>>6265255
These type of tournaments could always be a hit or miss but with Impact's current booking team, should be pretty cool
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Gran Akuma - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:53:25 EST U28QmYT+ No.6265263 Reply
>>6265255
Is this supposed to be a random pairing or an outright relevos increibles type of team?
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Samoa Joe - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 15:55:35 EST ISVkPzm7 No.6265300 Reply
>>6265297
its no secret that guys like Cobb and Juice are happier working NJPW than they are ROH
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Kama Mustafa - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 20:07:07 EST LI3WX/Ux No.6265421 Reply
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Hoooooly shit

>Jerry Lawler vs Mance Warner set for GCW 2 Cups Stuffed
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Crowbar - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 21:07:42 EST JkKTLZTs No.6265444 Reply
>>6265421
Lawler must be about the only wrestler that you can use a picture of from 30 years ago and it still more or less looks like him. TAKA and Kota Ibushi will probably join him in that club soon, though.
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Lana Star - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 21:53:20 EST /mJvJ+/W No.6265452 Reply
>>6265421
Man's pushing 70 and he's still going, must be trying to out-do Terry Funk.
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Vinnie Vegas - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 02:22:04 EST cN9/6/IG No.6265524 Reply
>>6265421
GCW tugs at nostalgia strings better then any other promotion in the world. So happy GCW exists for a million reasons.
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Super Calo - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 09:16:29 EST 5jicMQsL No.6265588 Reply
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>>6265421
hot damn this is gonna peak old time southern rasslin hwerkin brother kino. 20 mins of gaga and stalling, no bumps, 2 punches and a piledriver take it home
>walk n talk daddy walk n talk
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Rain - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 10:22:29 EST BlrIoG3o No.6265600 Reply
>As AEW presents their third show this weekend, Fight for the Fallen, good Ol' J.R. spoke with Busted Open Radio about the company and Jon Moxley joining the roster. Two-events in and AEW has certainly generated headlines. While many of the reviews of the events have been complimentary, there was some criticism of the Fyter Fest pre-show. Ross is a part of that crowd.
"Honestly, I wasn't crazy about it, I do not think it sold enough of what we were doing on the main show," Ross said. "I didn't think it was what we needed to be doing. Now, I like comedies, when I'm drinking those are my go-to. I think we have to be selling a good sampling of what we do in the main show. If you have a pregame show for a pay-per-view, those matches shouldn't just be filler, they should be something."

>Ross is adjusting to many new aspects within his role with AEW. One of those adjustments is working in a three-man booth. Ross is adamantly not a fan of those but feels with work, the AEW announce team could be quite good.
"We have to continue to work hard to get better, we are not nearly as good as we need to be," Ross mused. "But, that's not a surprise, we are brand new. We did a show in Vegas with no net. We are new, we are green in that regard. Excalibur is an excellent talent, I like his voice, he has great knowledge and he has passion in his heart. Alex Marvez, I would love to see him in an insider role. I work with two guys that are a lot smarter than me. We got to have reps and we have got to get better. We have got to clarify what the roles are in that three-man unit. I have every confidence in the world that when we go on television in October, we will be prepared to do a good job for the fans."

>Last weekend, NJPW hosted the first night of the G1 Climax in Dallas. Even though his block was not competing in tournament matches, some fans were surprised that he wasn't on the card, especially since Moxley is the U.S. Champion. There were reports that AEW had blocked him from competing on the show, however Moxley claims that he had a prior engagement.
"I wasn't booked on that to begin with," Moxley stated. "That is nothing. I was previously engaged when this happened. So, I will start on July 13th."
lol yeah sure

>AEW Fight for the Fallen will take place tomorrow from Daily's Place in Jacksonville, Florida.
>Cody and Dustin Rhodes vs. The Young Bucks
>Kenny Omega vs. CIMA
>Brandi Rhodes vs. Allie
>"Hangman" Adam Page vs. Kip Sabian
>Pentagon Jr. and Fenix vs. Scorpio Sky and Frankie Kazarian
>Britt Baker vs. TBA
>Bea Priestley vs. TBA
>Dark Order vs. Jack Evans and Angelico vs. Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus
Winners advance to All Out for an opportunity at a first round bye in the AEW World Tag Team Titles tournament.
>Chris Jericho scheduled to appear.
The Buy In
>MJF, Shawn Spears, and Sammy Guevara vs. Joey Janela, Darby Allin, and Jimmy Havoc
>"The Librarian" Peter Avalon (with "The Librarian" Leva Bates) vs. Sonny Kiss
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Lana Star - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 10:33:05 EST /mJvJ+/W No.6265604 Reply
>>6265602
Not good when your staff is already burying their own product. AEW's having an identity crisis, they need to figure out what their actual goals are and how they plan on reaching them while actually growing an audience instead of hoping the hangers-on will be patient with them.

One thing for certain is if the preshow is going to be the lower-midcard containment zone, shitters like Joey Jannetty and Darby Anus need to be relegated there ASAP.
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Super Calo - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 10:34:20 EST 5jicMQsL No.6265607 Reply
>>6265604
>those kringe ass 5th grader mocking nicknames
please fuck off back to the toilet bowl board you crawled out of turd
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Super Calo - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 10:36:52 EST 5jicMQsL No.6265609 Reply
>>6265603
Bauer is as carny as they get but I don't get why people are up in arms that Callihan won't be shitting up MLW anymore. He's shit and there's nothing interesting about him. He's languishing exactly where he belongs.
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Rain - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 10:39:12 EST BlrIoG3o No.6265613 Reply
>>6265609
I enjoy his heel work in MLW and Impact. He's been a good foil for people like Eddie, Penta & Tessa and he's had good garbage matches on both shows
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Rain - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 10:41:24 EST BlrIoG3o No.6265615 Reply
>>6265610
>>6265607
>>6265604
Just want to point out that if WWE booked a guy to kill himself in a hardcore main event at their last PPV and then relegated him to a tag match at the next month's pre show, this board would be unanimously shitting on the promotion
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CIMA - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 10:50:40 EST RlETESS4 No.6265623 Reply
>>6265603
You don't have to take his word, the match is on YouTube use your own eyeballs
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Rain - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 11:08:58 EST BlrIoG3o No.6265631 Reply
>>6265628
I thought I was a "TNA jihadi" how can I also stand up for wwe?

Also, I'm pretty sure you got called out yesterday for being a shitposting troll >>6265066
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Lana Star - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 11:09:42 EST /mJvJ+/W No.6265633 Reply
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>>6265607
>>6265610
>we have nothing for you guys so here's a 6-man tag with zero heat
Gotta feel bad for Darby Anus & Joey Jannetty, breaking their bones into sawdust just to be shoved into a piss break match on the next card.
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Rain - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 11:17:05 EST BlrIoG3o No.6265636 Reply
>>6265633
holy shit I completely forgot Darby ALSO killed himself in the sub main event and ended up on the pre show.

not sure whats going on with MJF and the "he's a heel to everyone except Cody"
When they did it with Sting & Luger in 95, Sting was at least skeptical. Cody just looks like a putz ... or doesn't care?... that MJF is shitty to other people, including Bret Hart. So does that mean Cody is a heel?

Why not just have MJF feud with Page over the summer to elevate Page on the way to ALL OUT. Wouldn't that do more for him than a cold match with Kip "nothing happening" Sabian?

Also why is Jimmy Havoc a babyface?
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Michelle McCool - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 11:21:42 EST XC7PKirU No.6265640 Reply
>>6265633
Why the fuck is MJF teaming with the fucker who knocked seven shades of shit into Cody when MJF was one of the first people out to check on Cody?
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StarBuck - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 13:34:17 EST z2hwvJv8 No.6265718 Reply
>>6265698
>Stardom/TJPW Champions on the same team
>It's a pre-show match
Already turning on them
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StarBuck - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 13:43:20 EST z2hwvJv8 No.6265725 Reply
>>6265722
They updated the graphic fixing the spelling and putting the Buy-In logo
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Rain - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 14:27:52 EST BlrIoG3o No.6265749 Reply
>Ring of Honor has announced the following matches for their Friday 8/9 Summer Supercard event in Toronto at the Mattamy Athletic Centre:

>ROH Champion Matt Taven vs. Alex Shelley.

>NWA Champion Nick Aldis vs. a member of Villain Enterprises to be named by Marty Scurll.

>CMLL Trios match: Caristico & Soberano Jr. & Stuka Jr. vs. Barbaro Cavernario & Hechicero & Templario.
Friday night of Summerslam weekend, running head to head with SMASH (which is teaming w/ Progress, OWE and WXW) and Destiny Wrestling (which is bringing in SCU & Tenille Dashwood)
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 16:38:47 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6268409 Reply
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Austin vs. Aries
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Jeff Hardy - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 17:15:26 EST BlrIoG3o No.6268428 Reply
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>Major League Wrestling’s weekly television show is coming to ten countries Africa.

>MLW sent in a press release on Tuesday announcing a deal that will see MLW FUSION airing on the StarTimes channel starting this summer.

>MLW CEO Court Bauer said, “The African region is extremely important to Major League Wrestling, and we are thrilled to begin this partnership with StarTimes to bring MLW to our fans in Africa.”

>Here is some additional information about StarTimes via the MLW press release:
>StarTimes Media, a well-recognized pay TV provider with over 9 million subscribers worldwide, has facilitated the transmission of more than 80 local and international channels over the StarTimes platform.

>StarTimes has seven of their own original channels, with content covering news, sports, music, movies, TV series, entertainment and documentaries.

>StarTimes services are available in over ten African countries, including Nigeria, Tanzania, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, and Sudan, as well as two broadcasting centers in Dar es Salaam & Abuja.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 17:18:04 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6268432 Reply
>>6268428
That's good MLW is getting more international TV deals done.
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Tomoka Nakagawa - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 22:28:37 EST 6yTb26JS No.6268621 Reply
decided to check out mlw and I may be sold just based on the fact that low ki's current thing seems to be that he knocks people out with one strike and wins.
it just feels so right lmao
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Big Boss Man - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 23:03:44 EST ooxghLVe No.6268642 Reply
>>6268621

Low Ki has been great in MLW. it's been nice to see how long he has stuck around as well.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 12:38:57 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6268856 Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 18:28:24 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6269046 Reply
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Two new matches made for Mass Hysteria and Summer Supercard. Also here are the 2019 Top Prospect Tournament competitors, which begins on Sunday with the first round matches taking place at Mass Hysteria.

>Austin Gunn
>Brian Johnson
>Dak Draper
>Dante Caballero
>Haitian Sensation
>Joe Keys
>Ken Dixon
>Makita

>>6268898
He was ahead of his time NJ, which Hammerstone is not.
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Jackie Gayda - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 23:45:59 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6269129 Reply
>>6269046
>Tasha Steelz
come on, ROH
if you're at that point, you might as well give Rossy a call to get a stardom girl
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Paul Bearer - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 00:48:05 EST hG0slQuX No.6269144 Reply
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>>6269046
it takes a special kind of talent to not make me excited for a Dragon Lee singles match
Kenny King has to be the most boring fucker to ever step foot into a wrestling ring
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Babe the Farmer's Daughter - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 00:50:01 EST 9P2jdKq5 No.6269145 Reply
>>6269129
After Klein having an awful match with Mayu Iwatani, you think Rossy wants to be involved with that shit again?
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Booker T - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 16:34:24 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6269432 Reply
>>6269406
how mad is the ALL OUT crowd going to be when they realize this is just a starrcast signing?

I feel like if AEW had him, they would have kept it secret like Moxley.
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Bully Ray - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 16:38:25 EST /mJvJ+/W No.6269435 Reply
>>6269406
Can't wait for people to be as disappointed as they were when he wasn't there for All In
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Jackie Gayda - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 16:51:32 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6269441 Reply
>>6269145
The first one this year was fine, but this really activates my almonds:
>first match is more about Iwatani getting a shock win over Klein
>match is good

>second and third matches are more about Klein trying to overcome Iwatani on her own
>also, you can't just do the same match as the first one
>matches were worse
hmmm

Also, I guarantee that Rossy doesn't give a shit. Stardom got some publicity among american fans and no one got injured on their side. They didn't mind putting over Klein in Japan, either.
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PAC - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:52:48 EST BlrIoG3o No.6269562 Reply
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this poster is fun
Big Poppa Pump and Rhino are back

no LAX, Johnny or Killer Kross
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Akeem - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 00:08:04 EST 2FsU4OSk No.6269605 Reply
>>6269562
Great poster. Having Sami up front is odd. Rhyno reveal from a poster kinda sucks. LAX, Johnny and Killer Kross leaving sucks but here we are. Impact is officially an indie.
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PAC - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 13:14:39 EST BlrIoG3o No.6269832 Reply
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>“I know a lot of people going, ‘Oh if Tully is in that means Tessa will be in.’ You know, I’ll put it this way when Tessa’s contract with Impact isn't up anytime soon right now, plus she's happy working under D'Amore and Callis who've done a tremendous job with her”

>“If WWE will take her, I’m actually going to predict that they’ll offer her a huge amount of money because everyone knows she can be a big star, the way Impact has booked Tessa proves she can be main event. The key now is you don’t want her with somebody else. So Tessa is probably going to be a very well-paid person when her contract is up. Not that she isn't already."
  • Metlz
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Ernesto Osiris - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 13:20:26 EST uE/SKYXE No.6269836 Reply
>>6269832
If you think WWE will do anything meaningful with Tessa you're retarded.
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Harlem Bravado - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 13:25:11 EST U28QmYT+ No.6269838 Reply
>>6269832
I normally want wrestlers to get the most money they can, which is usually the WWE, but this is the one time where I want Tessa to go where they're actually going to make her star, and that's not going to be the WWE.

She really could bring a whole new audience to wrestling, but that won't happen if she's stuck in 25 minute multi women snoozefests on smackdown or beating Billie Kay in 11 seconds via countout.
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Rick Martel - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:10:22 EST XggtJQJ+ No.6269861 Reply
>>6269836
She’s got a wrestler father. They love their second generation wrestlers. They won’t fuck her up that bad...probably
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Christopher Nowinski - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:11:40 EST w2Qrws/2 No.6269863 Reply
>>6269832
>because everyone knows she can be a big star, the way Impact has booked Tessa proves she can be main event.

because everyone knows he can be a big star, the way Impact has booked EC3 proves he can be main event.

because everyone knows he can be a big star, the way Impact has booked Lashley proves he can be main event.

because everyone knows he can be a big star, the way Impact has booked Broken Matt Hardy proves he can be main event.

because everyone knows he can be a big star, the way Impact has booked Bobby Roode proves he can be main event.
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Christopher Nowinski - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:47:47 EST w2Qrws/2 No.6269871 Reply
>>6269866
I'm not? I'm blaming WWE for misusing them and praising Impact's booking.
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PAC - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 15:46:12 EST BlrIoG3o No.6269927 Reply
Feel like this quote from Nick Aldis' interview is pretty revealing about AEW >>6269741
>I’ll tell you the truth: I was made an offer by AEW. I counter-offered with, “I’d like to be able to do both.” I’d like to work with them because obviously I have great admiration for Cody and the Bucks for what they’ve been able to do. But I wasn’t prepared to walk away from the two years of work I’ve done with the NWA. And that was that. I left it open with, “If you can find a way to keep doing this and do your show, I’ll do your show.”

>They essentially wanted to offer me a contract and have me walk away from what I’m doing here and I said that doesn’t make any sense to me. Really, there’s no reason to. It’s just a hangover from the way things have always been done. Obviously, we hear this “Change the World” phrase a lot, but that was my pitch to them. “If you really want to change the world, why can’t we do that?”
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Akeem - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 15:58:44 EST 2FsU4OSk No.6269947 Reply
>>6269927
Yeah AEW is not interested in working with MLW, Impact, ROH or NWA. I guess I understand from a business perspective. It's only shitty because they were saying for almost a year how they were going to work with other companies and contracts wouldn't be exclusive and things like that.
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Xavier Woods - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 16:02:28 EST QQesQNiH No.6269956 Reply
>>6269947
I mean they are working with DDT/TJPW and AAA at the moment.
I think their idea is to establish their roster first before allowing a lot more talent from other promotions in, but you also have to remember each one of those promotions has different storylines going on.
The same wrestler could be an entirely different character in MLW instead of Impact.
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Chiva II - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 16:50:56 EST yJEPrhUO No.6269999 Reply
>>6269956
To be fair, they don't have an official relationship with DDT/TJPW just yet & the extent of the AAA relationship seems to be them getting the Lucha Brothers.
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PAC - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 17:29:34 EST BlrIoG3o No.6270038 Reply
>>6269947
>It's only shitty because they were saying for almost a year how they were going to work with other companies and contracts wouldn't be exclusive and things like that.

Easy brother, we already got their money
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Arn Anderson - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 15:43:44 EST CXBa0qkv No.6270479 Reply
In case you were wondering what happened with this:

>In a statement released to PWInsider Friday, Ring of Honor said they have wrapped up their investigation of an early-June backstage incident with Bully Ray and a fan.

>The statement reads, "We have now concluded our internal investigation into the events that occurred in Portland on June 2nd and have taken appropriate actions with all parties involved. Our Code of Honor, which calls for sportsmanship, respect and honor in - and outside of the ring is a core value of this company and one we will continue to strive to uphold. To all of our loyal and dedicated fans, we apologize for the incident that transpired and we encourage all of our fans to continue attending our events. Furthermore, we promise to continue delivering the best wrestling and the best live experience on the planet. In adherence to Ring of Honor policy, we will not comment further on these matters."

>The company issued the response only when PWInsider's Mike Johnson reached out to them for an update.

https://www.f4wonline.com/ring-honor/roh-concludes-investigation-bully-ray-fan-backstage-incident-288346

lmao
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Larry Sweeney - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 17:42:27 EST IX5coWMM No.6270527 Reply
>>6269861
She's third generation, which moves Tessa out of the Eddie Guerrero category and into the Chavo Guerrero Jr. category.
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Dustin Diamond - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 19:06:54 EST bWZ+YR1t No.6270554 Reply
>>6270479
>we encourage all of our fans to continue attending our events

Judging by the houses they're drawing lately, that ain't happening.
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Chris Sabin - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 19:09:50 EST UaMRSaRm No.6270555 Reply
>>6270527
Randy Orton and The Rock are both 3rd generation too. Tessa already has more charisma than both put together
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Jimmy Superfly Snuka - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 19:13:37 EST LUMg+nxK No.6270556 Reply
>>6270555
>Tessa has more charisma than The Rock
>The fucking Rock

what
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Sexy Star - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 23:25:55 EST iB2E+KQl No.6270646 Reply
>>6270555
I mean he's technically not wrong

Orton is such a charisma vacuum he could even suck the charisma outta Dwayne
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Gorgeous George - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 09:32:52 EST BlrIoG3o No.6271232 Reply
>>6271144
>Impact Wrestling will be taping 8/15 and 8/16 in Mexico City. The company will also tape in Las Vegas on 9/5 and 9/6.
>It was announced that Impact will returning to Windsor on Oct. 25-26.


>CTV in Windsor featured a piece on Impact Wrestling debuting Cameron Adamson, a referee with no legs, at this weekend's tapings. Adamson has been training as a referee at Scott D'Amore's Can-Am Wrestling School. To check out the piece, click here: https://windsor.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1734231
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Mistico - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 10:24:19 EST GXHNtkkw No.6271242 Reply
>>6271232
I like how Impact solves the issue of work visas for AAA people by just taping in Mexico
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Gorgeous George - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:16:53 EST BlrIoG3o No.6271266 Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Tommy Dreamer - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 20:51:52 EST BlrIoG3o No.6271676 Reply
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this fucking goof
>At ROH Best In The World, Flip Gordon was revealed as the fourth member of Villain Enterprises. Gordon turned his back on Lifeblood, deciding to link up with Marty Scurll's crew instead. During the subsequent attack on Lifeblood, Gordon hit a 450 splash through a table, but landed hard on his elbow.

>Taking to social media, Gordon revealed that he partially tore his tricep and tore two ligaments. There is no timetable on when he'll return.

>Gordon did wrestle at ROH Manhattan Mayhem over the weekend, competing in multi-man tag team matches as a way to limit his time in the ring. In a dark match, he teamed with Brody King & PCO to defeat The Shinobi Shadow Squad (Cheeseburger, Eli Isom & Ryan Nova). During the HonorClub stream, he teamed with Scurll, Brody King, & PCO in a loss to Lifeblood (Bandido, Mark Haskins & Tracy Williams) & PJ Black.
https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/flip-gordon-suffered-partially-torn-tricep-roh-best-world
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Sycho Sid - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 21:08:46 EST MBCDUNIr No.6271699 Reply
>>6271676
So basically he's going the Tanahashi route of "If I wrap it tight enough maybe it will unfuck itself"?
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Vince Russo - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:58:52 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6272266 Reply
I didn't see all of ROH's last two shows
Bully Ray wasn't on-screen for either of those, right?
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Colonel Ninotchka - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:52:01 EST IEWTZ52t No.6272309 Reply
>>6271676

Flip is a fucking idiot. He constantly rushes himself back early and gets hurt. Take the time off until the contract runs up and go to AEW, like we all know he's going to.
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Dr. Cube - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:55:29 EST Ybchf0OF No.6272313 Reply
>>6272266

I didn't see Manhattan Mayhem, but I did watch Mass Hysteria and to my knowledge he wasn't on.
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Christopher Daniels - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:00:51 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6272318 Reply
>>6272314
hope this doesn't mean the AXS deal fell through
>The renewal will include the production of more exclusive content on the Twitch platform (www.twitch.tv/impactwrestling), including original weekly programming, pre and post-shows, live monthly specials, weekly airings of Xplosion which features never-before-seen matches, IRL (in real life) first-person streams, and much more. To support Twitch’s development of its co-streaming features, IMPACT Wrestling will facilitate co-streaming of the weekly flagship show and will be announcing details of a contest featuring co-streamers in the near future.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:07:27 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6272322 Reply
>>6272318
I would think that Impact being simulcast on Twitch might be an issue for AXS but I guess we'll wait and see if there's any more news about it.
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Christopher Daniels - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:17:24 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6272328 Reply
>>6272322
there is no way in hell that AXS would allow them to continue simulcasting the show on Twitch -- what would be the financial incentive for Cuban & AXS to allow that?

When a cable channel pays a rights fee -- its exclusive.
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:21:24 EST AskHu8Zx No.6272333 Reply
>>6271144
Fallah Bahh beats Moose here we go guys
Daga and Ortiz teaming still very much hmmm.jpg, but I don't think this means much as far as an Impact/AAA partnership, it's more likely it's just Tessa's boyfriend just wanting a long weekend with her in Mexico North.
When did Jake Crist become X Division Champion?


Overall, apart from some brights spots like Eddie, Rascals and the North, Impact seems to have quite a weak roster right now. I guess it's been a necessary part of slimming down and turning a profit.

Tessa is obviously their big star right now, but I really think Sami Callihan is one of the most underappreciated guys in wrestling. He's carried a lot of Impact these past couple of years, being the necessary antagonist who makes the faces look brilliant in many different angles.
>>6271144
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:22:53 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6272334 Reply
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Main event for Summer Supercard confirmed

>>6272328
I agree there would be no way of that continuing if AXS was going to pay a rights fee to Impact. Finding a better TV outlet in the US is a priority for Impact, which means the deal fell through or Twitch gave them a better offer.
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Shane Storm - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:28:33 EST VVw5QIUg No.6272341 Reply
>>6272334
It'll never happen against booker's pet >Matt Taven but Shelley getting a title run might actually get me to watch this company again
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Chiva II - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:29:10 EST g0JhSpRF No.6272342 Reply
>>6272330
they can always geoblock the USA. They're actually doing this in the UK and México because Impact airs on tv in both countries.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:32:12 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6272347 Reply
>>6272342
Yeah they could do that but I'm not sure how the audience would respond to no longer being able to watch live on Twitch in the US.
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Colonel Ninotchka - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:34:43 EST IEWTZ52t No.6272348 Reply
>>6272334

Shelley is awesome, but this is pretty dire for ROH. Building Taven as a top guy for the last three years was such a poor decision. ROH is so fucking boring now.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:36:28 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6272349 Reply
>>6272348
Marty Scurll should be the one to beat him but he's probably jumping to AEW when his contract runs out so I doubt it. Not sure who else they could have win, maybe Rush since they feuded in CMLL?
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Kaz Hayashi - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 18:38:26 EST FN3I1CJN No.6272414 Reply
>>6272347
Tough shit for the fans that watch via twitch. They're getting it for free on the internet.

If they don't like it, they can outbid Mark Cuban
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Hernandez - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:26:33 EST iiKQZuhS No.6272431 Reply
>>6272314
have we even established what this deal entails? Because the idea of twitch paying any real chunk of change for a channel that essentially gets 100 viewers most of the time seems pretty daft
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Yuji Nagata - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:55:27 EST /mJvJ+/W No.6272456 Reply
>>6272454
It's a deep undercard "we have nothing for you" match. A waste of everyone's time.
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Devon - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 21:02:02 EST BlrIoG3o No.6272512 Reply
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this should be fun

I'm really not seeing it with Myron Reed but I like the other 5 dudes. Jordan Oliver has grown on me with GCdub. Airwolf is solid. Zenshi/Shynron has always been stupid fun flippy shit. Kotto has good fire.

and you can't go wrong with the BASEd GOD
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The Machine - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 21:25:07 EST MBCDUNIr No.6272535 Reply
Does ROH usually air shows on Honor Club without any editing? I'm watching War of the Worlds Chicago from a couple months ago and it has Ian Riccaboni talking to Hunter Johnston by name through his headset in-between matches (like him asking if Hunter was proud of him calling Flip Gordon's STF "Submit to Flip") and him and Colt recording multiple takes for promos that I guess are for their TV show? It's really bizarre. Kind of reminds me of those old, rare satellite feed recordings of Raw and Smackdown where you can hear JR talking to production during the commercials.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 21:40:34 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6272551 Reply
>>6272535
Not really and it was only supposed to be the tag title match that was gonna air on HonorClub. It's funny because there were a few times that HonorClub would actually air the TV tapings live but never said anything about it like they didn't know it was live on Honor Club but now they're making all their TV tapings live to watch on HonorClub starting with Manhattan Mayhem from this past Saturday.
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Beastie - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 08:43:39 EST E2z9Z5tL No.6272686 Reply
Those IMPACT spoilers don't sound great, but they rarely ever do and the shows nearly always deliver.

Not sure what's happening with LAX. I'd like to think Satana is healing up for a bit and then we get the match we should have got at the last PPV with the 3 teams tearing down the house and LAX going out putting the North or Rascalz big time

I'm hoping Sami wins the number one contender match. Nothing against Tessa or inter-gender wrestling, but I think Sami winning the title against Cage and having Tessa work her way up and THEN go over Sami and win the title is a much better story than whatever Tessa vs Cage would be. I'm thinking maybe it's possible Jake Crist with the X-Division comes into play here. Maybe Tessa wins the match vs Sami and then Sami takes the X-Division title from his stooge and he uses option C for a triple-threat

Praying to Allah that the Stone Rockwell goof isn't a fixture going forward and they stop using Dreamer and RVD soon. I'm cool with Rhino because he hasn't had a decent shot as a singles guy in forever and he's still only 43
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 10:07:07 EST BlrIoG3o No.6272694 Reply
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>Some news regarding the rumored @AXSTV + @IMPACTWRESTLING deal. AXS declined Impact’s interest. Impact/Anthem then floated buying AXS from AEG, Mark Cuban, R Seacrest Media, CBS +CAA. I don’t know how they could afford it. Would need huge private equity $. Seems like a Hail Mary

>AXS is not interested in exploring a buyout with Anthem. Things appear very unstable at Anthem Media. Employees on edge.

>Forgot to mention ... AXS declining interest from Impact/Anthem is the reason for the Twitch press release. An attempt to save face. The timing is no coincidence.
https://twitter.com/fightoracle/status/1154012850882584576
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Annie Social - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 10:11:30 EST QQesQNiH No.6272697 Reply
>>6272694
Sounds like bullshit since it's coming from a guy no one has ever heard of and is retweeting rovert of all people.
I'll wait for someone credible to report on it.
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Doug Basham - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 10:15:01 EST cuNsT7H2 No.6272700 Reply
>>6272697
Even when it is right, I don’t think Impact is the reason Anthem wants to buy AXS. Maybe they want to improve their core business which is TV channels and other kind of media?
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Annie Social - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 10:19:58 EST QQesQNiH No.6272702 Reply
>>6272698
>>6272699
Suspecting this is a rovert's alternative account honestly with how much he defends it. Again, I'll wait for someone credible.

>>6272700
I feel like if it was known Anthem was looking to buy AXS, we would have heard about it outside of the wrestling bubble since that's a big acquisition, especially with the fact Mark Cuban is involved with it.
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 10:21:50 EST BlrIoG3o No.6272703 Reply
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>>6272700
yeah it sounds like what Anthem wanted was to buy out AXS and turn it into their American version of Fight Network.

If Anthem had a Fight Network on American TV deal that had the reach of an AXS, PopTV, WGN etc, that would be their ultimate win. Then they could program as much Impact as they want, whenever they want.

And Meltz has said repeatedly that they wanted Impact because they were losing the international rights to UFC and Impact was their second biggest franchise.
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Mark Madden - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 10:24:41 EST g0JhSpRF No.6272705 Reply
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why should I care about people playing journalist on social media?
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 10:51:24 EST It2BUKqt No.6272709 Reply
Assuming the Anthem/AXS news is legit: oof.
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:06:56 EST BlrIoG3o No.6272718 Reply
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Voices of Wrestling are basically confirming it -- and they're the ones that broke the AXS-Impact talks

>This was the business domino that we referred to when we initially reported the potential Impact to AXS move. Obviously it never fell, and here we are. Everyone assumed it was AXS buying Impact, but it was actually the other way around.
https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1154042563038343168

goddamn
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:38:47 EST kQXtDx2n No.6272732 Reply
if Impact does close down, how many "well they signed val venis for a couple of matches in 2008 and that gave them a bad reputation they haven't been able to shake for ten years" think pieces are we going to get?

I can literally feel the morons itching to write these kind of articles, when they've had a great product for years now.
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Titus O'Neil - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:44:46 EST 3I+9619z No.6272736 Reply
>>6272732
In fairness most of those articles will have been written 5-10 years ago. Journalists keep obits for TNA/Impact at the ready like they do for elderly famous people.
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:45:20 EST BlrIoG3o No.6272738 Reply
>>6272732
Bad booking doesn't really kill wrestling companies. Bad **business** kills wrestling companies.

JCP was hurting from Dusty's 1988 burnout but their real debt was buying out the UWF syndication market in a dying territory, trying to move their offices to Dallas and wasting money on private planes.

TNA actually grew even after Jenna Morasca. But wrestling companies are money losers in general and Dixie may have doomed Impact during the Hogan years by 1.) taking them on the road and 2.) not settling for Spike TV's lesser terms once Spike didn't get a return on investment in Hogan-Bischoff.
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:47:12 EST kQXtDx2n No.6272740 Reply
>>6272736
Yep, I guarantee that most of the obits will skip very quickly over 2014 onwards and will use "too little too late" as a lazy shorthand for everything from that period.
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:57:05 EST kQXtDx2n No.6272746 Reply
>>6272738
Everytime I see your id, you always have the most sane and knowledgeable opinions. you should write an article about it for vow or somewhere.
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:57:20 EST BlrIoG3o No.6272747 Reply
>>6272738
Also the lesson that smarks should take away from Anthem Impact is that "good booking" can't save wrestling companies either. The Russo-hogan years of TNA maintained a pretty stable 1.1 million.

In fact, Garrett Kidney @ VoW did a retrospective this past summer and pulled the stats that Impact's ratings started declining on Spike after Sting left, and not even the beloved, sell-out summer Manhattan Center tour where Dixie went thru a table was able to pick viewers back up.

Raw Reunion this week saw an uptick. Wrestling on TV has been dying a slow death since WCW and ECW imploded. The fanbase isn't growing, its just the fans from then growing older and only really caring about the nostalgia of their youth.

If Variety is writing articles about WWE's falling business, why would TV -- which already hated wrestling -- want to get into bed with a non WWE wrestling show?

GLOW was almost canceled by Netflix due to low viewership.
Dark Side of Wrestling is a tiny niche thing thats only made a few episodes on a money-losing niche cable channel.
Lucha Underground was unable to lift El Rey into anything more than a stupidly expensive fringe cable channel.
Sinclair has been too busy **failing** to become a local news monopoly to do anything with ROH beside stuff in graveyard slots in the midwest.
NJPW has their ceiling in the US and they're not willing to sacrifice their native audience to go to war here.
MLW does a great job at bluster but doesn't actually have a lot of money to work with.

We'll how far TNT wants to with AEW but its not going to be like Ted Turner signing Bischoff's blank checks.
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 12:11:03 EST BlrIoG3o No.6272752 Reply
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>It doesn't look like Impact Wrestling will be on AXS any time soon, a move that looked to be a big one for them if it worked out.

>Rumors of the two side working on a deal emerged earlier this month, but never ended up materializing. When Fightful reached out to several wrestlers in the company, some even suggested AXS buying Impact. As it turns out, the opposite was pitched.

>Fight Oracle (also known as Front Row Brian) posted a thread revealing news, which was later confirmed by Voices of Wrestling, who originally reported the story.

>Impact just announced a new deal with Twitch, and as of now they remain on the Pursuit Network. The company has had a rough go of their television deals in recent years, going from Spike TV to Destination America to Pop TV to Pursuit, and also running on Twitch.

>Fightful has reached out to both AXS TV and IMPACT about the report, but have not heard back as of yet.
https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/report-impactaxs-tv-deal-didn-t-work-out-anthem-inquired-about-buying-axs
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RegalMachine RGM-79 !Ro1w0thJao - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 12:30:55 EST 9+kvF4WR No.6272779 Reply
>>6272752
There are a lot of people who don't know that they're on Twitch.
Imo they need to push that harder and try to dominate that platform when it comes to wrestlng.
Maybe stop having Melissa camgirl during breaks and be more creative with that time.
There are other promotions on that platform but to my knowledge none are using it at it's full potential.
More players are in the game time to think outside of the box until they can get a better home on TV.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:10:30 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6272834 Reply
>>6272758
Looks like their first show will be in Washington, DC. Fuck I really want to go now.
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Rizokahn - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:25:35 EST hTSUcuhc No.6272844 Reply
Per PWInsider:

>NWA Champion Nick Aldis is no longer advertised for the 8/9 Ring of Honor Summer Supercard event in Toronto as Ring of Honor and the National Wrestling Alliance will not be working together going forward, PWInsider.com has confirmed.

>NWA Vice President Dave Lagana, who had been producing all of the ROH pre-tapes over the last seven months, finished his commitments with Ring of Honor this past weekend as well.

>PWInsider.com is told that the decision was made for each promotion to go their separate ways and that NWA President Billy Corgan intends on putting all his energy towards producing a weekly stand-alone NWA series later this year once he completes the current Smashing Pumpkins tour.

>Sources close to each promotion have stated that they have parted ways on amicable terms and the door is open to potentially partner down the line.

That sucks. The NWA stuff was really some of the best stuff on ROH television.
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Vince Russo - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:31:36 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6272850 Reply
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>>6272844
>NWA President Billy Corgan intends on putting all his energy towards producing a weekly stand-alone NWA series later this year once he completes the current Smashing Pumpkins tour.
for what purpose?
He's going to piss money away unless he can monetize that show well
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Leilani Kai - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:50:01 EST ooxghLVe No.6272864 Reply
>>6272844

NWA being smart getting away from ROH, any association with them at this point would only detrimental to the growth of the NWA.
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Van Hammer - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:52:49 EST WNuZWFf6 No.6272867 Reply
>>6272861
So this pretty much guarantees that NJPW have nothing to do with it
Why do people still pay attention to rovert?
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The Berzerker - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:02:37 EST 2FsU4OSk No.6272880 Reply
>>6272861
Rovert is an idiot. I watched this entire shoot last night and Bulldog never says that. He said that Impact was interested in him and New Japan didn't want him working elsewhere but still only booked him on 4 tours a year while consistently being on the under card. They would book him around his MLW tapings as well and Harry Smith was getting fed up with it which is why he quit.

I have no idea where Rovert got that from. It's as if he never even watched it.
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The Berzerker - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:14:49 EST 2FsU4OSk No.6272896 Reply
>>6272880
He also said he really likes Kenny and those guys and would like to work with AEW because they have no big guys and big guys draw brother brother.
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Atsushi Kotoge - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:33:18 EST R0Zsgjc5 No.6272919 Reply
>>6272866
For not using a guy that was green as goose shit?
People need to stop acting like Okada 2010 was the same as Okada in 2019.
Wasn't even 1/4 the wrestler he is now and has openly thanked TNA and said it helped him understand why having a character was so important.
So basically, whether people want to admit it or not: No Okada in TNA meant no Rainmaker in NJPW
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:44:20 EST L3Phdr8f No.6272929 Reply
>>6272861
Do people say these things with the intention of making Impact look bad? Cause he just makes NJPW looks like the biggest morons in wrestling.
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Eric Young - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:51:13 EST b6Ee22oP No.6272940 Reply
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>Current state of Impact
How low can you go?
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Sojournor Bolt - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 15:23:16 EST w8U/skkI No.6272973 Reply
>>6272919
>No Okada in TNA meant no Rainmaker in NJPW
You'll tear every muscle in your body if you reach any harder with that take.
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Eric Bischoff - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 15:27:55 EST iiKQZuhS No.6272977 Reply
>>6272919
> and has openly thanked TNA and said it helped him understand why having a character was so important

You seem to have no clue about how backstage shit in Japan is done if you think that public comment refutes literally anything

>People need to stop acting like Okada 2010 was the same as Okada in 2019

Nobody does, he was still pretty decent and absolutely nothing excuses them booking him a handful of times in a year and a half minimum

>No Okada in TNA meant no Rainmaker in NJPW

lmao, Gedo told fumi saito even before he returned he's gonna push him to the moon, they were clearly aware how good he was and were confident enough in him to succeed irrelevant of his time in TNA
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 15:29:41 EST BlrIoG3o No.6272978 Reply
>>6272694
>Over the last several weeks, there have been rumors that Impact Wrestling was in negotiations with AXS TV about bringing their weekly series to that cable platform. That rumor has been incorrect, because something much grander has been in play - Anthem Media, Impact's parent company, has been in talks about acquiring AXS TV. The talks date back at least three months and the initial hope was to have had the deal done by early July.

>Had that timeline taken place as hoped, Impact Wrestling planned to announce they were moving to AXS the Monday after Slammiversary, but the AXS TV deal was not consumated. Anthem's potential purchase would not have changed New Japan or WOW's status with AXS we are told as the station and its programming would have remained in place as it currently exists, although Anthem-owned content, including Impact, would have migrated over.

>There were rumors over the last day that the AXS TV purchase was dead but PWInsider.com is told by several sources that the talks are still active as of this week.

>AXS TV is one of several potential outlets Anthem has been looking at in order to add to their footprint in the United States, so it stands to reason that should the AXS TV deal not happen, if Anthem acquires something else, that is where Impact Wrestling will land.
PWI
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Magnus - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 15:30:38 EST yJEPrhUO No.6272979 Reply
>>6272866
Exactly how is it the fault of Don Callis or Scott D'Amore that Russo & Dixie Carter didn't treat Okada right?
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CRAPCOM !SNGayGTIcE - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 15:31:49 EST scEfkCEO No.6272982 Reply
>>6272752
>Impact just announced a new deal with Twitch
Wait, is Twitch actually paying them beyond the subscriber/bits scheme for their single, weekly, sub-10k-viewer stream? Huh.
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Eric Bischoff - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 15:36:17 EST iiKQZuhS No.6272987 Reply
>>6272979
It's still technically the same company and lineage which is just how this sort of shit works over there, the current AJPW is literally an entirely different company but the opinions and heat on the original still persists and vice versa. Blame lays on the brand rather than those just making decisions
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The Berzerker - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 15:36:18 EST 2FsU4OSk No.6272988 Reply
>>6272940
I really love Impact but it's sadly true. I'm actually worried this is it for them. They have put out my favorite wrestling product these past two years. It's not the roster that made me think this. It was their ability to turn their weak roster into something that is worth watching. Taking guys like Fallah Bah, KM, Eddie Edwards, Matt Sydal and giving them storylines and feuds and gimmicks. It's so important for a match to have purpose. I really enjoy NJPW, CMLL and GCW but what put Impact in first place for me was the fact that I was invested in the storylines. I am also aware that this is a very niche opinion and most people would not agree with me on this but that's just how I am.

Impact became the underdog that I want to root for and watching guys like Brian Cage, Killer Kross, Moose and even Johnny Impact shine gave me a feeling that other promotions didn't. Seeing Tessa Vs Sami turn out to be a great match and forcing critics of intergender wrestling to say it was good. I'm also a Don Callis mark and find his commentary to be one of the best.

I'm aware they won't be a top promotion ever again but all I wish is for them to be on the level of ROH or something like that. Despite how much /wooo/ shits on ROH. Most of the world still thinks ROH is a better promotion then Impact somehow.
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The Berzerker - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 15:39:02 EST 2FsU4OSk No.6272992 Reply
>>6272978
Thank fuck a credible source is talking about this. This makes a lot more sense.
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 15:46:18 EST BlrIoG3o No.6272997 Reply
>>6272982
From what I've gathered, Twitch is paying them for the 24/7 stream and for running live content.
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Sojournor Bolt - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 15:53:18 EST w8U/skkI No.6273006 Reply
>>6272992
>PWI is credible only when talking about TNA in a positive light
>but all those times they reported bad things about TNA they were fake news
I hate the world we live in today
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 15:57:37 EST BlrIoG3o No.6273011 Reply
>>6273006
i don't think anyone here is complained that they weren't credible just felt it was annoying when Mike Johnson would editorialize shit like "Homicide and Hernandez are working on a freelance deal, what is Impact thinking?!"

He took the same pearl-clutching routine when it came out that Jordynne Grace was still working on a handshake deal and negotiating a contract.

He/they get info right, but they still add their opinion unsolicited.
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The Berzerker - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:03:40 EST 2FsU4OSk No.6273016 Reply
>>6273006
That's not what I meant. It's still bad news from PWI but it's way more credible then fucking rovert. The shit they said about Jordynne Grace and LAX OGs was true. It was just written with extra editorial opinions which only hurt a company that is already hurting.
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Sojournor Bolt - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:30:04 EST w8U/skkI No.6273035 Reply
>>6273011
Are you still pissy at Johnson over the whole Russo/Spike thing ?
i've notice you have a real ax to grind with him.
A common thread among the ever shrinking TNA fandom.
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Rocco Rock - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:34:44 EST w2Qrws/2 No.6273037 Reply
Okada stole the Rainmaker gimmick from The Pope. So his TNA run did help him in that regard.

-The hand pose
-The open arm taunt
-The robe
-The money falling from the ceiling
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:42:06 EST BlrIoG3o No.6273043 Reply
>>6273035
>i've notice you have a real ax to grind with him.
you're talking out of your ass
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Sojournor Bolt - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:03:55 EST w8U/skkI No.6273050 Reply
>>6273043
No I've noticed in many of your posts that you shit on Mike Johnson because he doesn't suck TNA's asshole unconditionally like you want. I'm guessing it's rooted in him blowing the whistle on Russo still secretly working for them when he wasn't supposed to be. The few remaining TNA diehards such as yourself have never forgiven him for that.
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The Berzerker - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:09:02 EST 2FsU4OSk No.6273055 Reply
>>6273050
The last time he bitched about Mike Johnson was the same time everyone else was bitching about him and it was about the shit he has already said which is his editorial opinions that he adds into stories that makes them come off as hit pieces.
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The Berzerker - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:09:47 EST 2FsU4OSk No.6273057 Reply
>>6273050
Also I'm an Impact diehard and I've always thought TNA was shit until two years ago so your point makes no sense.
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:22:39 EST BlrIoG3o No.6273069 Reply
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>>6273050
you're still talking out of your ass with lazy bait
> I've noticed in many of your posts that you shit on Mike Johnson because he doesn't suck TNA's asshole unconditionally like you want.
cool. Point them out then. because otherwise you're full of shit.

Cuz I can point out several posts from me in this thread where i use PWI as a source. I'm the one that posted PWI's update about the axs deal you fucking nincompoop.

>The few remaining TNA diehards such as yourself have never forgiven him for that.
your shitposting is at least two years out of date
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Eric Bischoff - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:31:45 EST iiKQZuhS No.6273071 Reply
>>6273037
I don't think Okada needed almost 2 years sleeping in alex shelleys apartment half the world away to do something he could have done in a single day watching a youtube video
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:35:02 EST L3Phdr8f No.6273073 Reply
>>6273050
Mike Johnson has posted some incredibly editorialised shit about Impact this year. I have no idea whether he does it for other promotions, but that's beside the point.

His "Jordynne Grace has been working on a per appearance basis, this is so bad" was so fucking dumb and was an attempt to poison a story rather than simply report it. Grace working on a per appearance deal made a lot of sense, it certainly wasn't the bad management that he was saying it was.


Fuck off back to twitter
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Eric Bischoff - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:41:38 EST iiKQZuhS No.6273077 Reply
>>6273073
>was so fucking dumb and was an attempt to poison a story rather than simply report it. Grace working on a per appearance deal made a lot of sense, it certainly wasn't the bad management that he was saying it was

are we just gonna forget the bit where they sent her a contract to sign and she just didn't bother and Impact completely forgot about it?
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:42:51 EST BlrIoG3o No.6273078 Reply
>>6273077
> she just didn't bother and Impact completely forgot about it?
[citation needed]
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Vince Russo - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:46:15 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6273079 Reply
The thing about TNA's booking of Okada is that they didn't even need to push him hard. Just giving him a few rivalries in the X-division would have been fine.

NJPW had been happy with how Jay White, Kamaitachi (now Hiromu Takahashi) and the Tempura Boyz (Roppongi 3K) turned out after their ROH excursions. ROH gave them all 0 title reigns, iirc, but lots of bookings. It's not necessarily about pushing talent, but rather getting them booked in ways that help develop a wrestler.
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Eric Bischoff - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:49:41 EST iiKQZuhS No.6273080 Reply
>>6273078
?

>>6273079
this pretty much, in the same time frame Kawato has been booked like 120 times by CMLL compared to Okadas 18 times
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:53:37 EST BlrIoG3o No.6273084 Reply
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>>6273079
LOLRNG

Also it seems like the issue isn't how TNA booked Okada but rather they didn't handle his travel/lodging like they were supposed to. According to rovert when Okada came to America, he didn't even have a place to stay and TNA/Dixie completely dropped the ball on it. He stayed with Alex shelley and that was one of the reasons Okada became so loyal to Shelley & the Bucks
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:56:12 EST BlrIoG3o No.6273087 Reply
>>6273080
>?
where was it ever reported that Impact "completely forgot" that Jordynne Grace "didn't bother" with signing a contract?
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Eric Bischoff - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:59:28 EST iiKQZuhS No.6273091 Reply
>>6273087
I mean announcing somebody has signed to a multi year contract in October when they actually hadn't officially only for it to come out she signed jack shit in May leads me to believe that yeah, what do you mean "didn't bother"? You reckon her dog ate it?
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:08:43 EST BlrIoG3o No.6273096 Reply
>>6273091
>announcing somebody has signed to a multi year contract in October
Impact never announced it in October 2018.

>what do you mean "didn't bother"?
what do YOU mean by "didn't bother"? >>6273077

>Along with the revamped deal, Grace also sees herself improve financially. She was well aware of her lack of official contract, and was hoping to prove to the company that she was worth the terms she was targeting in negotiations.
"I let them know a short time ago," said Grace. "This sort of thing happens more often than you would think, and it’s not specific to Impact at all. I know of multiple instances with other companies and wrestlers it has happened with. Normally, however, the dirt sheets don’t pick up on it, so it’s a little less dramatic. I was hoping to have some good matches and show that I could follow direction and criticism beforehand, of course. I wanted to renegotiate the original deal once I had shown I had value and worth."
https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/exclusives/exclusive-jordynne-grace-reveals-details-new-impact-wrestling-contract
Impact never said they signed her in October, dirtsheets just assumed she signed since she started working for them. But the whole time they were negotiating a deal and when it got out that she hadn't signed Mike Johnson editorialized that he thought it was bad. Once they came to terms Impact noticeably ramped up her push. If she didn't sign, all she did was come in for a few months, work some matches and ultimately put over Taya at Rebellion.
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Eric Bischoff - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:17:01 EST iiKQZuhS No.6273100 Reply
>>6273096
>"I let them know a short time ago," said Grace. "This sort of thing happens more often than you would think, and it’s not specific to Impact at all. I know of multiple instances with other companies and wrestlers it has happened with. Normally, however, the dirt sheets don’t pick up on it, so it’s a little less dramatic. I was hoping to have some good matches and show that I could follow direction and criticism beforehand, of course. I wanted to renegotiate the original deal once I had shown I had value and worth."

sounds like she didn't bother to sign the contract, the news that Grace isn't under contract comes out the same day some music guy hints at Grace appearing at Double Or Nothing and then scramble to get her under contract the next day, I think I'd probably take forgot about it over being so plainly manipulated
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:22:46 EST BlrIoG3o No.6273105 Reply
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>>6273100
>Grace found herself talking to several companies along the way. When explaining the situation, she admitted that she's spoken to ROH, NWA, All Elite Wrestling and WWE about potentially working there.

"I had contact with each of those companies, and had many options and offers in front of me. At the end of the day, Impact is where I wanted to be. I was ready to make a difficult decision if needed, but I was sincerely hoping everything would work out in the end! I can’t be sure if Double or Nothing had anything to do with it, but it’s a possibility," said Grace.

"I cannot stress this enough. I love Impact," Grace told Fightful in an exclusive interview. "No company is flawless, of course, and I think anywhere I went, there would have been some sort of problem. No company is truly without issue. Whether it’s not enough exposure, not enough money, not being used properly, not being used enough... I’m sure I would have gripes with ANY company. Impact is a company I truly believe in, and they’re doing their best. I have amazing friends there, and I have a blast backstage. Ed, our president, is really one in a million. He sat with Brian Cage in the hospital when he was injured for hours, which I admired, and he’s always been so friendly to me. Don and Scott are doing a great job, and I always feel relaxed talking to them. I’m hardly ever stressed out. I have so much freedom. All the girls get along very well, and they’re always inviting me out after the shows even though they know that I never party and like to sleep. The cattiness is almost non-existent, and everyone is always helping one another. I could go on all day about why I’m happy at Impact. There’s countless reasons. Impact makes me love my job. I’m sure if there was an issue, they just wouldn’t have offered me anything and had me go on my way."
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Eric Bischoff - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:25:33 EST iiKQZuhS No.6273108 Reply
>>6273105
thanks for backing up my claim of them getting easily manipulated i guess
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:36:06 EST BlrIoG3o No.6273117 Reply
>>6273108
>Impact gets a talent who publicly turns down WWE and AEW for them and does press talking about how happy she is to work there

>this means Impact was manipulated

you're an idiot
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Eric Bischoff - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:41:53 EST iiKQZuhS No.6273122 Reply
>>6273117
I think I'd take money and better contract terms over vague positive PR relegated to some dirtsheets but if that's your choice Ok
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Sojournor Bolt - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:44:26 EST w8U/skkI No.6273124 Reply
>>6273117
Reminder this guy is TNA Jihadi #1 defender on here.
No point arguing with him when it come to his manifesto.
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 19:11:08 EST BlrIoG3o No.6273141 Reply
>>6273122
>I think I'd take money and better contract terms
and thats what she got. I'm trying to understand why its a negative that Impact got Jordynne Grace and with a deal she's happy with.
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 19:11:48 EST Nj72wfwH No.6273143 Reply
>>6273124
And everything they've said has been right. What did they say that you disagree with you dumb drone?
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 19:17:03 EST BlrIoG3o No.6273148 Reply
>>6273124
stalking an alaskan vape board for TNA boogeymen is a really sad existence.

Also Impact's great and most of /wooo/ likes it so eat shit.
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 19:28:20 EST BlrIoG3o No.6273157 Reply
>>6273152
so if I understand you correctly: Impact was "manipulated" into giving Jordynne Grace and that bad for them?

So what in your opinion is "good" for Impact?
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Eric Bischoff - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 19:38:09 EST iiKQZuhS No.6273162 Reply
>>6273157
Impact was manipulated into giving her more than they wanted through her not bothering to sign a sent contract and continuing to court AEW to the point of some music dude doing a song for a potential debut of her leaking on instagram and Impact scrambling to get her a better offer within like 2 days. All the while she "apparently" didn't even have any interest in going elsewhere.
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Devon - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 19:45:39 EST BlrIoG3o No.6273171 Reply
>>6273162
what do you think contract negotiations are?

>her not bothering to sign a sent contract
I already showed you her quotes where she said she let Impact knew that she wanted to renegotiate the original contract and prove she had more value.
>All the while she "apparently" didn't even have any interest in going elsewhere.
And I already quoted her saying that she admitted was talking to WWE, ROH and AEW

>Impact was manipulated into giving her more than they wanted
so you want talent to be low-balled?

you still haven't explained what would have been good for Impact.
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Jerry Sags - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 21:26:07 EST GXHNtkkw No.6273244 Reply
>>6273171
yeah this is basically just not being a fucking pushover for employment
like that time the /wooo/kie hustled Impact for a third day's pay after they tried to hustle him out of pay for one of the two days he worked
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Kevin Dunn - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 23:24:22 EST BlrIoG3o No.6273277 Reply
>>6272978
>I’m told it’s not happening. AXS already has NJPW and impact is a toxic brand.

>2 Separate things at this pt after AXS saying no thanks to Impact content... is AEG really going to sell a tv channel that bears its ticketing platform’s brand to a failing Canadian media company? AXS tickets distributes for huge venues. Staples Center. T Mobile Arena Vegas.
https://twitter.com/fightoracle/status/1154199049861574663
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Thu, 25 Jul 2019 02:22:14 EST iw4/ZOp9 No.6273350 Reply
>>6273162
>Impact was manipulated

this is unbelievable levels of reach for the act of "someone signed a contract". You're embarrassing yourself here.
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Headbanger Trasher - Thu, 25 Jul 2019 02:43:09 EST 2FsU4OSk No.6273354 Reply
>>6273244
That dude was not paid by Impact and it was from a third party hiring agency(who was paid by impact). It was them who fucked up. That being said...all that shit was pre-Callis/D'Amore by a month.
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Jerry Sags - Thu, 25 Jul 2019 03:17:02 EST GXHNtkkw No.6273359 Reply
>>6273354
oh okay I guess that really matters and makes it not hilarious and a subtle parable for the challenges wrestlers face trying to deal with management even before he blew the money on scripts, coke, booze, and mcdonalds
https://archive.li/TesQg
for part two of the story
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Earthquake - Thu, 25 Jul 2019 21:31:20 EST M2YTBi4c No.6273817 Reply
Breaking news from the mlw taping in NY

MLW announced an alliance with NOAH
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Low Ki - Thu, 25 Jul 2019 22:47:27 EST y73oDH6a No.6273843 Reply
>>6273817
Last time Impact/TNA teamed with NOAH, Ishimori and Marifuji were in on the deal. Considering they're fighting for a spot on an hour show each week, I hope this is worth the investment.
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Kanyon - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 00:00:21 EST jBmep0lp No.6273868 Reply
>>6273817
One more spoiler:
War Chamber is gonna be Contra including newcomer Tristen Thai as their 4th member vs Lawlor, Von Erichs... And Low Ki. Lawlor and Low Ki had a Mega Powers moment.
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Triple H - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 09:04:06 EST BlrIoG3o No.6274023 Reply
>>6273817
>Major League Wrestling has entered into an official working relationship with Japan’s Pro Wrestling NOAH, PWInsider.com has confirmed.

>The two sides locked in the deal three weeks ago when MLW President Court Bauer was in Japan but the roots of the. The rootsof the relationship began when Minoru Tanaka came over to the United States to work a few dates for MLW this past April.

>Talents from each group will work with the other and tour for the other promotion.

>The idea behind the relationship to give MLW and NOAH talents additional dates and a chance to grow and improve as talents by touring in Japan and the United States, respectively.
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Triple H - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 09:52:51 EST BlrIoG3o No.6274031 Reply
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>>6274023
interedesting....

>Following IMPACT, we also partner with MLW in the US! There are a lot of known players and unknown players! I am looking forward to seeing you. #noah_ghc#mlw#impact
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Triple H - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 09:56:07 EST BlrIoG3o No.6274033 Reply
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>>6274031
>The partnership between MLW and IMPACT .. My self-searching is likely to jump out of Japan ..
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Triple H - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 12:14:34 EST BlrIoG3o No.6274086 Reply
>>6274083
>everyone in the universe should work with AEW
AEW has to want to work with them first and it's been made abundantly clear that AEW wants a lot of exclusivity. AEW is not in business to help other promotions. Its to gain access to specific talents that they want for their show.

This isn't as simple as "the ball is in NOAH's court and they just have to ask and get it"
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Ricochet - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 12:19:16 EST NQLCELKx No.6274089 Reply
>>6274086
I know but I hope for NOAH's case that they didn't actually approach AEW first and get turned down for whatever reason (exclusivity could have been it) so they went with Plan B and C for their western wrestling visibility instead.
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Ricochet - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 12:21:38 EST NQLCELKx No.6274091 Reply
>>6274086
>>6274089
It's hard to argue that it would be a consolation prize kind of deal if they lost the possibility at big exposure with AEW and had to settle with MLW and IMPACT's very modest exposure.
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Rhett Titus - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 14:57:20 EST 2FsU4OSk No.6274197 Reply
>>6274031
Is this translation accurate? So they are sitll partnered with Impact as well?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 16:35:13 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6274242 Reply
It's official:

>It is with great honor that Major League Wrestling partners with Pro Wrestling NOAH to form an alliance.

>This all-encompassing partnership will feature athletes exchanged between the two organizations as well as opportunities to share content in addition to other opportunities.

>The partnership will commence with an MLW wrestler participating in the 2019 N-1 Victory tour that commences this August. The wrestler will be revealed at a later date.

>“Pro Wrestling NOAH has a rich history of promoting some of the grandest wrestling bouts in the history of the sport,” said MLW CEO and Founder Court Bauer. “This is a very exciting partnership. We look forward to joining NOAH and beginning a new voyage for a new era.”

I wonder who's gonna be in N-1 Victory? I could see it being Davey Boy Smith Jr.

>>6274197
If they are, it's been about a year while since NOAH and Impact exchanged talent.
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Triple H - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 16:40:05 EST BlrIoG3o No.6274244 Reply
>>6274242
>If they are, it's been about a year while since NOAH and Impact exchanged talent.
when was the last time Eddie was in NOAH? he's a lifer with them and even if there wasn't a partnership between impact and noah, he'd still be doing shows for them
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Nigel McGuinness - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 19:17:19 EST /itf//rK No.6274314 Reply
>>6274242
>TFW Mance Warner or LA Park wins the GHC Heavyweight Championship
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Mike Adamle - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 23:35:50 EST mOskquiP No.6274397 Reply
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>I wouldn't be surprised if he went back to wwe.

Am I getting worked?
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Lena Yada - Sat, 27 Jul 2019 05:58:25 EST uCKn6zsx No.6274475 Reply
>>6274397
Probably. Punk is friends with these guys, it was kind of weird for him to essentially bury them in public. But then again it's Punk, he turns on his friends for petty reasons.
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Vin Gerard - Sat, 27 Jul 2019 08:44:02 EST /mJvJ+/W No.6274501 Reply
>>6274397
Probably. I doubt Punk has any interest in returning to the rassling business, he's still in the MMA mindset.
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Verne Gagne - Sat, 27 Jul 2019 11:38:57 EST TfK/OYkA No.6274552 Reply
>>6274244
I think the talent exchanges between impact and aaa/noah have gone away as a cost cutting measure for impact. The only time they use aaa talent is when actually in mexico.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 16:27:44 EST UveV14Hw No.6275593 Reply
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Chris Van Vliet is debuting as a backstage interviewer for AEW at their first TV show. Also tickets for the show go on sale at 12pm EDT on Friday.
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Drew Gulak - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 16:34:05 EST IEWTZ52t No.6275597 Reply
>>6275593

The guy seems like a douche, but he's one of the absolute best wrestling interviewers right now. Alicia is another one, and I think AEW took her also. Good for them for getting people that can actually interview. Now, the only thing is whether or not they're just gonna become total shills.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 16:37:55 EST UveV14Hw No.6275600 Reply
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New matches for Summer Supercard

>>6275597
Yeah AEW already signed Alicia Atout.
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Kenny - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 16:50:03 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6275607 Reply
>>6275593
>Chris Van Vliet
>Jen Decker
>Alicia Atout
how many backstage interviewers do they need?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 16:53:58 EST UveV14Hw No.6275608 Reply
>>6275607
Decker isn't signed, she was just filling in for Alicia but she probably will be in the future. Two interviewers for a promotion with a two hour show + PPVs isn't unusual. Plus WWE has a lot of backstage interviewers too with Charly Caruso, Sarah Schreiber, Kayla Braxton, Cathy Kelley, and Radzi Chinyanganya.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 29-07-2019 16:58:23
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 17:05:34 EST UveV14Hw No.6275616 Reply
>>6275615
I agree but WWE is a much bigger production with 6 weekly wrestling shows, PPVs, TakeOvers, and Network specials.
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Shuri - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 18:51:08 EST dYhrmb6W No.6275661 Reply
>>6275616
This. WWE produced more hours of television last week than AEW has all year.
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Yoshinari Ogawa - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 19:34:31 EST xdhGimC4 No.6275705 Reply
Who would you say is the worst wrestler on the AEW roster right now?
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 20:01:45 EST k8OMTxql No.6275714 Reply
>>6275705
nyla rose, she's just very green

or for people who have been wrestling long enough to know better, The Young Bucks
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Human Tornado - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 20:11:26 EST IEWTZ52t No.6275729 Reply
>>6275705

In terms of workrate? Nyla Rose and maybe Janela

In terms of like someone with no gimmick or discernible character? Kip Sabian just seems like another vanilla British wrestler.
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Savannah - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 20:29:37 EST JkKTLZTs No.6275740 Reply
>>6275729
>Kip Sabian
AEW's whole midcard is just 8 lots of the same twinky looking motherfucker.

It's like Chikara without ant masks.
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Mitsuharu Misawa - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 20:36:00 EST bWZ+YR1t No.6275745 Reply
>>6275743
Probably a better place for her instead of the wasteland that is Women of Honor.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 20:36:03 EST UveV14Hw No.6275746 Reply
>>6275743
She'll definitely be a better fit for the Knockouts than the Women of Honor.
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Kyle Matthews - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 21:09:46 EST xdhGimC4 No.6275785 Reply
Would it be appropriate to call Jimmy Havoc the British Jimmy Jacobs?
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Nathan Jones - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 21:21:03 EST mUIjiQth No.6275796 Reply
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>>6275785
Yeah. I'd say Jimmy Havoc is the low rent Jimmy Jacobs, but "British" already implies that, so it's apt.
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Jay Lethal - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 21:28:24 EST WNuZWFf6 No.6275808 Reply
>>6275785
No because Jimmy Jacobs was actually good once upon a time and Havoc has never been
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Shawn Michaels - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 22:32:07 EST GXHNtkkw No.6275855 Reply
>>6275822
>Get me Dalys!
>she's unavailable
>then get me her non-union American equivalent!
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Human Tornado - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 23:11:40 EST IEWTZ52t No.6275887 Reply
>>6275772

I may not be the biggest Impact fan, but ROH is a fucking bore. It's not a shit show. It's not terrible. It's worse. It's boring. The product is ice fucking cold and they have no one special, and the great Mexican workers there are better in other companies.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 00:02:27 EST UveV14Hw No.6275915 Reply
>>6275808
Havoc was booked better in Progress than Jacobs was in ROH.
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Andy Ridge - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 00:14:45 EST 2FsU4OSk No.6275925 Reply
>>6275887
ROH has a fine roster with zero storylines, feuds or anything interesting going on. Their tapings being way behind of all their PPVS makes it annoying as shit to watch. I just don't even bother with that garbage anymore.

Impacts roster is arguably worse then ROHs but they use their talent wisely and make the storylines and feuds mean something so it's worth watching the television every week that leads to a pay off at a PPV. Something almost no wrestling company is doing. Which is fucking hilarious.

STORYLINES/FEUDS, SET UP, PAY OFF MATCH = SATISFACTION

Yet the wrestling world seems to be filled with....nothing.
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Rey Mysterio - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 02:39:29 EST xdhGimC4 No.6275982 Reply
I have a feeling AEW is gonna end up either killing ROH or relegating it to a TNA like existence where it just exists with very little interest.
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Generalissimo Takada - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 04:14:59 EST 9xhifRHe No.6276006 Reply
>>6275982
It's been exactly that since the last great talent plunder 2 years ago.
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Tony Garea - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 04:25:09 EST ezz88rJR No.6276013 Reply
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>>6275887
Even when ROH was doing better before all the AEW guys left, the women's division was still shit and clearly only existed because they felt obligated to have one.
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Rey Mysterio - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 04:49:26 EST xdhGimC4 No.6276018 Reply
Would you say 2019 has been a worse year for ROH than 2012?
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KAGETORA - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 07:34:22 EST qaWE+YXN No.6276074 Reply
>>6275925
>ROH has a fine roster
well if their main attraction is matt taven i guess the fuck not
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Nanae Takahashi - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 10:00:27 EST HBLWC/LC No.6276120 Reply
>>6272919
I don't even like Okada but he was a 7-year pro in TNA. He wasn't some greenhorn. And even if he was, the same time he was in DixieLand they were pushing the likes of Crimson & >Gunner

>>6276074
Stop being disingenuous. This is like saying WWE has a bad roster 'cause they waste it making sure Roman looks really, really strong.
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Octagón - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 10:10:05 EST BlrIoG3o No.6276125 Reply
>>6275925
>>6276120
>Impacts roster is arguably worse then ROHs but they use their talent wisely and make the storylines and feuds mean something so it's worth watching the television every week
I mean... that's how wrestling is supposed to be done. I'm not sure what metric ROH's roster qualifies as better if the booking, storylines, feuds and characters are worse. Maybe more athletic?

Lifeblood/Villain Enterprises/Lethal/Briscoes, etc are all top tier, but ROH feels like it somehow has a bloated roster of guys who are just ... there: Eli Isom & Ryan Nova, Josh Woods, LSG & Shaheem Ali, Ferrara & Titus. Impact has a smaller roster but does way more with them.

I'm just thinking about the amount of crickets hear during the MSG Honor Rumble when a lot of those guys came out.

One of ROH's big problems is talent development. When all the Elite left, ROH made a mad scramble to lock up anyone from PWG that was still a free agent... and really hasn't done anything with them except trios matches. It bears repeating, but what the fuck is Delirious doing?
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Shawn Michaels - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 11:03:25 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6276161 Reply
>>6276125
>I'm just thinking about the amount of crickets hear during the MSG Honor Rumble when a lot of those guys came out.
Every other ROH wrestler had matches on the main card. Of course the lower card geeks (and Kenny King) were in that rumble.
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Octagón - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 11:07:02 EST BlrIoG3o No.6276165 Reply
>>6276161
ok... but even low card geeks can have big connections with the crowd. look at the monster pops that the lower card NJPW guys received in the same match.
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Octagón - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 12:26:07 EST BlrIoG3o No.6276186 Reply
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the new generation's Pillman vs Liger
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Linda McMahon - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 12:55:09 EST QQesQNiH No.6276192 Reply
>>6276186
I'm wondering if every weekly show they do will have a different theme.
Judging by the ads so far, this looks to have a more American theme to it.
Not a bad idea in the long run and will help the program feel fresh every week.
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Hector Guerrero - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 13:31:01 EST U28QmYT+ No.6276206 Reply
>>6276192
I doubt it. You can only have so many themes before running out of ideas. This has special a red, white, and blue theme cause it's in America's capital and they want to make a big deal out of their first show.

If their show is booked well, they won't need smoke and mirrors and shiny new graphics every week to make their weekly TV show feel fresh.
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Octagón - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 14:13:54 EST BlrIoG3o No.6276233 Reply
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>Held annually for nearly 50 years at various turn-of-the-century opera house locations from New York City to Boston, the Professional Wrestling Opera House Cup was a grueling multi-day tournament.

>The best of the day competed in the tournament and would often be an entree to more success, including the World Heavyweight Championship of the day. For years the cup has sat in the attic of the Hart Mansion in Calgary until the tragic passing of the last cup recipient, Stu Hart (1948 winner).

>Teddy Hart inherited the Opera House Trophy Cup upon the passing of his grandfather. Inspired by the legends whose names are immortalized in plaques on the sides of the cup, Hart has donated the cup to Major League Wrestling to reignite the spirit of the greats who preceded today and tomorrow’s greats.

>After a 71 year hiatus, the Opera Cup returns December 5th as MLW hosts the 2019 Opera Cup tournament at Melrose Ballroom in New York City. The event will be a FUSION TV taping for beIN SPORTS.

>The Professional Wrestling Opera Cup is dedicated to the great men who have fought valiantly before us to ensure our passion, professional wrestling be cemented and respected in the annals of time.
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Octagón - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 14:15:32 EST BlrIoG3o No.6276235 Reply
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>In the featured attraction at Unbreakable, a rematch from the critically acclaimed intergender main event at Slammiversary XVII, Sami Callihan goes one-on-one with Tessa Blanchard with the winner earning a future World Championship opportunity against “The Machine” Brian Cage.
>After making his shocking return to IMPACT Wrestling, former World Champion Rhino will also be in action against the self-proclaimed “Mr. IMPACT Wrestling” Moose, plus a dream team will come together for the first time as the legendary Scott Steiner joins forces with former disciple Petey Williams and Jordynne Grace in a six-person tag team match against a yet-to-be-announced trio.
>In other action, Knockouts Champion Taya Valkyrie defends her crown against Havok, The North battle Reno Scum and the team of Rich Swann and Willie Mack in a 3 Way match for the IMPACT Tag Team Titles, plus Michael Elgin goes one-on-one with Eddie Edwards.

>On Saturday, Aug. 3 at 5:00 p.m. PT (8:00 p.m. ET), IMPACT Wrestling presents Star Struck from Florentine Gardens in Los Angeles and streaming live on IMPACT Wrestling’s official Twitch channel at www.twitch.tv/impactwrestling. Matches on tap for Star Struck include IMPACT World Tag Team Champions The North vs. Rhino and Tommy Dreamer, Michael Elgin vs. Rich Swann, Moose vs. Eddie Edwards in a street fight, Sami Callihan vs. Willie Mack, plus Jake Crist vs. Ace Austin vs. Trey for the X-Division Championship.

>The tour wraps up at the Oceanview Pavilion in Port Hueneme, Calif. on Sunday, Aug. 4 at 5:00 p.m. PT (8:00 p.m. ET) with television tapings for the flagship weekly show IMPACT!, featuring all the top IMPACT Wrestling stars and Knockouts. Confirmed matches include Michael Elgin vs. Rhino, The North vs. Reno Scum for the IMPACT World Tag Team Titles, Jake Crist vs. Rich Swann for the X-Division Championship, plus Sami Callihan vs. Tommy Dreamer in a street fight.
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Octagón - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 15:42:41 EST BlrIoG3o No.6276279 Reply
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>The biggest stars in CMLL are headed to Ring or Honor to do battle with ROH’s top stars in Global Wars Espectacular, a three-city tour in September.

>Global Wars has been a staple event in ROH since 2012, but the 2019 version marks the first time the sensational luchadors from CMLL, the top promotion in Mexico, will be involved.

>Global Wars Espectacular kicks off on Sept. 6 at the Ford Community Center in Dearborn, Mich., then heads to the Odeum Expo in Chicago on Sept. 7 and concludes at the Potawatomi Casino in Milwaukee on Sept 8.

>The following CMLL stars have been signed for the tour:
>Caristico (Sept. 7-8 only)
>Volador Jr.
>Stuka Jr.
>Triton
>Barbaro Cavernario
>Hechicero
>Rey Bucanero
>Okumura

>An official partnership between ROH and CMLL was forged three years ago and has never been stronger. Join us live in person or streaming for HonorClub to experience the historic Global Wars Espectacular!
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Chris Hero - Wed, 31 Jul 2019 07:16:41 EST xdhGimC4 No.6276764 Reply
What can AEW do to avoid looking like a vanity promotion?
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Meng - Wed, 31 Jul 2019 13:14:53 EST BlrIoG3o No.6276894 Reply
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feel like this should have been yesterday's announcement
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Meng - Wed, 31 Jul 2019 13:17:00 EST BlrIoG3o No.6276897 Reply
>>6276894
also it *has to be* new signings or else its gonna feel like a let-down

are LAX the only free agents out there?