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- Thu, 27 Jun 2019 01:32:25 EST iVSK5WcY No.6256745
File: 1561613545201.jpg -(52317B / 51.09KB, 900x547) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. fuck it, nwa general thread
i remember asking a while ago if we could have an nwa general to keep up with all the updates about the brand
not getting a clear response from the mods, i decided to make my own thread, with blackjack and hookers

nwa youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSHCTJS2P4Hvu_reLKtiT6g/featured
nwa social media: https://twitter.com/nwa
nwa merch: https://www.prowrestlingtees.com/promotion-tshirts/nwa.html

dont know what else to add
have a fine day
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Rayna Von Tash - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 01:34:32 EST cS30l1Ma No.6256747 Reply
God bless Billy Corgan's heart for trying to make NWA great again.
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R-Truth - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 01:40:33 EST iVSK5WcY No.6256754 Reply
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>>6256747
he has a very subtle way to book things which works on the lung run but sadly there's not that much buzz around the nwa now that aew is getting so over doing basically the opposite
not that i dislike (most of) aew's booking, a thing can be good for many different reasons, but i still feel like aldis is a really underlooked champion
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C. Red - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 02:01:20 EST Bo7NLc7W No.6256759 Reply
I don't know shit about modern NWA, is it still an organization made out of multiple promotions or is it just it's own single promotion now is it even related to the old NWA or are they just using the same name for branding purposes?
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R-Truth - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 02:07:29 EST iVSK5WcY No.6256760 Reply
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>>6256759
its a bit hard to explain
its not a promotion, its basically just a brand represented by its champions, sometimes they have their own shows but most of the exposition you can get comes from other companies or the youtube channel
apparently billie is looking for a tv deal, but we know nothing about that yet
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Michael Elgin - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 06:06:57 EST IX5coWMM No.6256801 Reply
>>6256759
Corgan decided that the NWA franchisees were not people he wanted to do business with. I think the current organisation is just Corgan and Dave Lagana - if they have a third employee, it's Nick Aldis, but I think the relationship with him is more like a partnership. There are some other recurring characters like Tim Storm and Jocephus. Cornette has been an enthusiastic supporter and his NWA work is his best in recent years.

The NWA's current model is to take wrestlers who are under-appreciated on the indies and showcase them in a series on YouTube. Match footage comes from promotions that the NWA is working with - typically Championship Wrestling From Hollywood or Ring of Honor. Corgan has put the NWA brand on a couple of shows so far, with the most recent being a revival of the Crockett Cup in partnership with ROH, but isn't rushing to run shows on his own. In some ways, it resembles what Anthem is trying to do with Impact, with a more obscure but less tainted brand and a smaller platform.
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Cary Silkin - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 08:28:45 EST ooxghLVe No.6256841 Reply
Nick Aldis is great, something really refreshing about seeing someone who carries himself as that refined champion character in this day and age.
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Sami Callihan - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 08:59:57 EST 88NgqRn7 No.6256861 Reply
What would you rather have?

The current reality with Billy Corgan taking over the NWA

or the reality where he buys TNA... so he has the TV deal to pull off his vision, but its with 2016-2017 TNA brand value (and probably still features Magnus, James Storm and Sam Shaw)
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R-Truth - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 09:08:03 EST iVSK5WcY No.6256870 Reply
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>>6256861
intresting question

i'd probably go with 2016-17 tna if it means that he's replacing dixie carter
and if not, its still an appetizing idea
tna at the time despite its flaws was far from a bad show, but it had a very contrasting vision to what corgan seems to like in his booking
plus its sad to see a guy like nick aldis who has really grew on me as a champion not be featured in a proper program in the current state, especially if they have to work with companies like current ring of honor, that otherwise has no appeal whatsoever to me
plus, it may be the alternative timeline where eli drake gets the push he seemingly was supposed to get all along
yeah, i'd say impact >>>>> roh/cwfh
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R-Truth - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 09:09:38 EST iVSK5WcY No.6256871 Reply
>>6256870
BUT id also have to deal with the fact that i would not be getting callis booking under current impact
well that makes it harder to decide
i dunno, can the two fo them partner?
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Obariyon - Fri, 28 Jun 2019 02:22:17 EST iVSK5WcY No.6257434 Reply
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ROH BITW is tonight
in any other situation i would have just skipped it in favour of impact but if the newest surprise signee for the NWA turns out to be Eli Drake i might make an ecception and watch to see what they plan with him
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Hajime Ohara - Fri, 28 Jun 2019 07:51:23 EST 88NgqRn7 No.6257495 Reply
>>6257434
if Eli Drake ends up with the NWA, its proof that the batch of wrestlers trying to jump ship from Impact aren't just going to land with a bigger and better AEW deal.
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P.N. News - Fri, 28 Jun 2019 08:08:52 EST jEGuiRVR No.6257507 Reply
>>6257495
Surely he must have known this? Like I'm sure NXT would throw him money just because, but he rustled a lot of jimmies there before and has proven with this whole Tessa/intergender thing that he's not really a company man. He's also admitted he doesn't even like wrestling smaller guys either.

He'd offer absolutely nothing to AEW either. Dude might be great on the mic, but no one has ever said 'I can't wait to watch Eli Drake wrestle'
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Obariyon - Fri, 28 Jun 2019 09:48:56 EST iVSK5WcY No.6257534 Reply
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>>6257507
i feel like he's been a mix of unlucky and a mark for himselfto end up in this situation
he was green in the ring for a long time but now he's trimmed the botches and wrestles competently a very old school brawling style, for my tastes at least
impact pulled the trigger on him at the wrong moment not capitalizing on his growing popularity and that's really not his fault but his reasons to leave were really sketchy so good riddance to that
i dont know how much NWA pays but i hope they can use him the way he was intended to, there's lot of potential in him and corgan seems like the right guy for the job
but if he SOMEHOW manages to piss him off as well that's three companies now that blacklisted him
lets pray for the best
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Hajime Ohara - Fri, 28 Jun 2019 09:58:10 EST 88NgqRn7 No.6257536 Reply
>>6257534
>impact pulled the trigger on him at the wrong moment not capitalizing on his growing popularity
they give him the world title before most people thought he was ready and let him carry it for six months. what do you mean?
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Obariyon - Fri, 28 Jun 2019 10:06:00 EST iVSK5WcY No.6257538 Reply
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>>6257536
it's more complicated than that
there were really many factors that ruined his reign
impact was very dry on babyfaces that could cut a promo at the time and no feud he had felt that intresting as a consequence, plus he still couldn't really carry it in the ring to compensate
they gave him chris masters as a henchman so he became a chickenshit that lost non title matches all the time
and the angle he had with cornette died because cornette left one month in
it was the wrong time because he felt like an afterthought, not because he wasn't hot
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TAKA Michinoku - Fri, 28 Jun 2019 12:08:04 EST IX5coWMM No.6257568 Reply
>>6257434
I'd rather see Corgan plucking someone from obscurity than signing Eli Drake. Nothing against Eli, I just feel that if the NWA is going to work out they need to find more guys like Jocephus rather than trying to compete with WWE and AEW for known quantities.
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The Gobbledy Gooker - Sat, 29 Jun 2019 00:55:03 EST iVSK5WcY No.6257908 Reply
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i was asleep during the whole ppv (and i doubt i should regret it) but thank god eli drake was the surprise man
cant wait for the feud with aldis
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Scott D'Amore - Sat, 29 Jun 2019 08:27:54 EST qdYeeVf0 No.6258005 Reply
>>6257981
Selling to Billy was the right move but I wish they would have kept him around as a character
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Monster C - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 12:17:29 EST YhuTqZ9b No.6258956 Reply
>>6258910
Bruce took control of the NWA around the time of their second feud. Basically, he sued (keep in mind that Bruce is a shoot lawyer... and magician, I think) the owners of the NWA at the time for insurance fraud, and accepted the brand itself as compensation. The idea was that he was saving the brand by getting it away from the guys who were ruining it for short-term pocket-lining.

Bruce did ok but he just didn't have the resources or connections Billy does. When he first took over he wanted to get national tv, and all that. At the very least, he kept it stable until Billy got there.
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Oz - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 11:02:06 EST fxkMbh/3 No.6259625 Reply
>>6258956
Real talk, NJPW was better off working with Tharpe era NWA over current ROH
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Molly Holly - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 16:23:43 EST 88NgqRn7 No.6259822 Reply
>>6259625
real talk: NJPW is better off working with Corgan era NWA
>Big Dick Nick
>James Storm
>Eli Drake
>Jocephus
these guys at least know how to carry themselves like classic big gaijin
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Buck Quartermain - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 18:44:04 EST YhuTqZ9b No.6259934 Reply
>>6259822
The NJPW agreement had nothing to do with talent at that time though. NJPW just let those guys work their shows in exchange for control of the NWA titles, so Gedo could mark out by putting them on his guys. That deal ended as soon as NJPW got bored of the belts.
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Hajime Ohara - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 20:51:53 EST dYhrmb6W No.6260043 Reply
>>6256759
Corgan nixed the territorial affiliates (which was a totally outdated concept anyway).

He says he's rebuilding the NWA brand. They've only put on a handful of actual NWA shows in the past few years. Most of their exposure comes from defending the NWA Championship in other promotions (like at All In last year) and YouTube videos.

It seemed like Corgan wanted to build to NWA doing supercards with wrestlers representing various promotions, but never quite got there.

It seemed to me that buying Impact was a consolation prize he bought for himself after losing TNA.
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Chris Candido - Wed, 03 Jul 2019 06:31:15 EST IX5coWMM No.6260897 Reply
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>>6260043
>It seemed to me that buying Impact was a consolation prize he bought for himself after losing TNA.
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Delirious - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 20:05:15 EST A071Y4qB No.6265420 Reply
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https://youtu.be/jjl9I8h-cuQ

New episode of ten pounds of gold, mainly focused around the Colt/Storm feud
Apparently now Storm has a remixed version of the DCC theme he has in TNA
Remember DCC? It was one of Corgan's idea back when he worked with Dixie but they became just jobbers immediately after he ragequit
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 19:24:49 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6268520 Reply
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This seems interesting
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PAC - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:44:24 EST BlrIoG3o No.6269741 Reply
Daily DDT spoke with Nick Aldis to get his candid thoughts on why the NWA is destination viewing, what led to his departure from IMPACT, why WWE is no longer his endgame, almost signing with AEW earlier this year, and much more.

this is long, here are some highlights: https://dailyddt.com/2019/07/18/nick-aldis-aew-impact-wrestling-nwa/
>I was looking and felt that every wrestling company was going after the same audience. Everyone was going after the discerning fan that’s a lifer for wrestling, and I think that numbers have proven that if you cater to that fan base, you lose the rest. I think there’s a sweet spot where you can satisfy everyone.

>The proliferation of social media and wrestling fans’ insatiable appetite for opinion to bring down the number one wrestling leads to a culture that unfortunately can exclude a lot of the more casual fans and I think that’s necessarily fair.

>I don’t think any one person’s dollar is more valuable than another’s, but I cherish and respect the fans that just watch once a week and don’t engage in social media about it and don’t write blogs about it and talk with other fans about it just as much as I do those fans.

>I can tell you for a fact that TNA and in particular Dixie [Carter] had a hugely disproportionate view of what the Twitter conversation represented in the wider audience because they represented at the time one-third of our overall audience.

>Around 2010-2011, the product told them “All that stuff you liked that made TNA unique? You don’t want that anymore.” And we lost them. We never got them back. Twitter is very easy to manipulate to make it look like you’re doing better than you really are. “Look, we’re trending!”

>It’s not equally converted to Pay-Per-View buys and merchandise buys and things like that. What it can do is maintain loyalty with a portion of our audience is creates a false sense of security and a bit of a pathway to laziness and that’s certainly what happened with IMPACT.
...

>I’ll tell you the truth: I was made an offer by AEW. I counter-offered with, “I’d like to be able to do both.” I’d like to work with them because obviously I have great admiration for Cody and the Bucks for what they’ve been able to do. But I wasn’t prepared to walk away from the two years of work I’ve done with the NWA. And that was that. I left it open with, “If you can find a way to keep doing this and do your show, I’ll do your show.”

>They essentially wanted to offer me a contract and have me walk away from what I’m doing here and I said that doesn’t make any sense to me. Really, there’s no reason to. It’s just a hangover from the way things have always been done. Obviously, we hear this “Change the World” phrase a lot, but that was my pitch to them. “If you really want to change the world, why can’t we do that?”

>Because that really would be a change for one guy to work there but also come here. I’m still on very good terms with Cody and the Bucks and I had a very nice conversation with Tony [Khan] and everyone was aware of it. Billy and Dave were aware of it.

>At the time, my stance was if I can do both, then I’ll do it and I think that as it shakes out and everyone starts to realize the demand that will be on them with cable TV and stuff like that, those possibilities will be way more apparent in the next coming year for some guys.
....

>Before we knew it, we had this sort of thing where I was going to defend the title on four different continents in one year and then suddenly you realize we achieved what we wanted to do with the NWA which was the traditional values with a modern delivery system.

>I could be the traveling champion and put it out there with Ten Pounds of Gold and documented it and put it out in different ways like packages instead of going, “Here are the results, he defended the title here, blah blah blah.” We show clips and we made packages. We showed me traveling all over the world. That’s just effort. That’s not money.

>Okay, there’s a little bit of money involved and Dave Lagana just so happened to fly with me and bring all of his equipment and shoot and edit everything, but Dave’s running the company. Compared to hiring a sound stage and getting a load of people and a load of wrestlers and a load of events, the cost of that is minimal, but we were amount to able create something that was a body of work. Not just me, but the entire NWA that is now usable and can be built off of.

>It puts us in a very strong position, especially now we head into the rest of the year with AEW and WWE moving to FOX. There’s going to be some real monumental shifts happening in the entire business. Ring of Honor is going to be in trouble and IMPACT is going to be in trouble and it’s no secret that there’s only so many hours in a day they can spend watching wrestling and only so many dollars they can spend, they’re going to make a decision.
...
>I had a big hand in bringing Eli Drake into the NWA. He had at least two other offers, one from one of the companies you mentioned, and one from Ring of Honor. Dave made his pitch and Dave asked me to call him and basically tell him my experience because Eli saw what we had done with me and said, “I want that.” Why wouldn’t you? I called him and we had a good talk and I told him what I thought this could be for him long-term.

>He’s a few years older than me, he’s 36 and I’m 32 and I’ve always had one eye on the future post-wrestling and I’m sure he kind of has that too because he’s a creative guy, he’s a smart guy with a good business brain and I’m sure he wants to have an option or at least the opportunity to work in behind-the-scenes role going forward if he wants to do that and it’s a seat at the table.
...
>I’m just going to say it. I have a vision of eventually headlining Starrcade with the ten pounds of gold on the line, but Starrcade currently belongs to WWE. That to me would be the pinnacle, my crowning achievement for the body of work I’ve done with this with this brand and this championship. To me, the two perfect-world opponents for that would be Randy Orton or Triple H, based on the historical significance of it.
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Mt. Fiji - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 17:44:45 EST ooxghLVe No.6270059 Reply
>>6269741

Aldis is only 32? Honestly thought he was near 40. Nice to know that if this NWA stuff fails spectacularly (I hope it doesn't even if it's likely) he still has years left to go somewhere else
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Ultimate Spider Jr. - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 17:56:07 EST s2JxQMZc No.6270068 Reply
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Wish they had a weekly and streamed on Twitch.
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Titus O'Neil - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 17:31:04 EST IX5coWMM No.6274267 Reply
>tfw Billy Corgan convinces you that Eli Drake is a great wrestler
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Tito Santana - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 17:47:51 EST NNEA+h7D No.6274273 Reply
>>6274267

Being a poor man's Ken Anderson automatically makes you a terrible wrestler.
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Big Daddy V - Wed, 07 Aug 2019 18:10:05 EST u6H0OqFc No.6280518 Reply
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iae2t4y7P-c

corgan talking about the production style of wrestling during the 70's, and at the end of the video two dates are mentioned
hopefully these are their two first days of tapings for the much rumored weekly show, it would be weird to not announce the name of these shows if that was not the case
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Candice Michelle - Wed, 07 Aug 2019 18:16:12 EST VvmOBavl No.6280524 Reply
>>6280518
Guessing Corgan is still trying to work out a TV deal, hence none announced.
If they can't get it, the best route would be YouTube.
The footage has to air before it gets too old like how GFW couldn't figure out they had to air their shows for people to go to them.
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Milano Collection A.T. - Wed, 07 Aug 2019 18:30:41 EST BlrIoG3o No.6280536 Reply
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>>6280518
>atlanta
interesting.

This is a monday and tuesday night btw. In fact, its the same week as AEW's premiere and the debut of SD on Fox.
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Suwama - Wed, 07 Aug 2019 19:24:52 EST CXBa0qkv No.6280556 Reply
>>6280518
Hopefully Billy keeps it real and has the show be 90% dimly lit squash matches
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Alex Wright - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 10:34:05 EST BlrIoG3o No.6281114 Reply
>>6280518
> We do know that the NWA had been talking about taping one hour weekly shows that they would put on for free streaming
  • Meltz

Dave Lagana just did an interview and dropped some big interesting news: https://twitter.com/BustedOpenRadio/status/1159515585291702273
-TurnerSports was talking with the NWA about re-using the old Georgia Championship Wrestling studio in Atlanta to create a new studio TV wrestling show for B/R Live
  • Talks stalled as the AT&T merger happened
  • the AEW deal came together and became a bigger cable deal
  • This new NWA show is going to be taped "on the same street" as the old Georgia Championship Wrestling show
  • The goal is to recreate studio wrestling, no more than 200 people in attandance
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 10:45:51 EST It2BUKqt No.6281119 Reply
>>6281114
>no more than 200 people in attandance

Can the NWA even draw 200 people on its own?
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Soldier Ant - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 10:48:56 EST GXHNtkkw No.6281121 Reply
>>6281114
>recreate studio wrestling
wat
like did the secret techniques of The Impact Zone get lost?
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Alex Wright - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 10:55:21 EST BlrIoG3o No.6281123 Reply
>>6281121
if you watched TNA in 2016, it was clear that Corgan & Lagana were already doing this on a slightly different scale.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 18:21:12 EST UveV14Hw No.6281276 Reply
Well NWA is going in the major promotions thread once NWA ends up getting a TV deal then. I'm just wondering which network is going to pick them up and air their show?
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Alex Wright - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 18:38:47 EST BlrIoG3o No.6281285 Reply
>>6281276
according to Meltz, it sounds like it might be some kind of (free) streaming thing.
If Lagana's interview is anything to go by, they were looking at doing something for BR Live, so maybe they're still trying to use digital to raise their profile.
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Mabel - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 18:50:52 EST en44yO+3 No.6281291 Reply
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>>6281276
oh great, 3 promotions that have nothing to do with eachother lumped in the same thread werent enough
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Chris Masters - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 20:48:19 EST 8YmMYKUS No.6281332 Reply
There's no TV show, It's just Billy pretending to do something with NWA so can get invited to the cool parties again.
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R.D. Evans - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 14:19:12 EST BlrIoG3o No.6283353 Reply
>>6283336
he's in a tag team with Bayley's husband. mainly works the Texas indies, based out of Austin. He did a tour of DDT in the spring.

He was on the NWA 70th Anniversary PPV last fall in the National Title tourney, he got to have a promo segment with Jim Cornette. Lagana has been raving about his vignettes since last fall & he definitely puts work into his promo skills: https://youtu.be/QmAk3jzqs1E

Seems to embody a similar philosophy to Eli Drake: what's most important to a wrestler is a look and an ability to talk.
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Abyss - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 15:23:15 EST hHKXlRFC No.6283383 Reply
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>>6283325
Could this be who Billy Corgan was talking about when he said he saw a shapeshifter once?
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Jimmy Superfly Snuka - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 04:43:49 EST m9X319+1 No.6283816 Reply
>>6283325
Ricky Starks is pretty entertaining. He's passable in the ring as well.

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