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- Thu, 08 Aug 2019 10:59:19 EST BxsoGG2K No.6280775
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Previous: >>6273210

No politics, no waifus, all sports entertainment.
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Nanae Takahashi - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 11:36:53 EST /mJvJ+/W No.6280782 Reply
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Finally, someone stepped in to fill the Boomer Twitter role that Dusty left behind.
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Caprice Coleman - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 14:35:41 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6280827 Reply
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>Triple H says with NXT growing, there are a lot of options. He says contrary to rumors and talk of "counter programming" that Wednesday has been the home for NXT forever. Says when others announce they will be on Wednesday nobody labels them as "counter programming."
https://twitter.com/JustinLaBar/status/1159490656693362688
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Caprice Coleman - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 14:42:17 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6280833 Reply
>>6280831
i mean... he's not wrong. The "NXT to FS1" talks started before the TNT deal was even announced.
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Sassy Stephie - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 14:55:43 EST ezz88rJR No.6280837 Reply
>>6280827
The difference is, AEW is at the whim of TNT. They get the day and time slot that is given to them. WWE can air a show at any time on any day on their network. So when they decide for the first time ever to air an indy show on the network at the same time AEW is doing a show it's pretty suspicious.

I have my doubts TNT is trying to counter program NXT.
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Devil Masami - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 16:01:34 EST IhQfHUCt No.6280852 Reply
>>6280827
NXT is a taped show on a steaming service fans can watch anytime they want.
AEW is a live weekly show on regular TV you can only see once for the time being.
If NXT suddenly goes two hours live on regular TV, how does that not count as WWE counter programming?
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Caprice Coleman - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 16:03:05 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6280853 Reply
>>6280852
>If NXT suddenly goes two hours live on regular TV, how does that not count as WWE counter programming?
because "NXT to Fox Sports" has been talked about since before AEW was announced for TNT?
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Dude Love - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 16:13:46 EST XQmxomRN No.6280860 Reply
>>6280853
  1. Can you show me the exact date of said comments by WWE or FOX?
  2. Can you show me that this move to FS1 has been officially announced?

The answer to the second one is no obviously. You can say you want to do things but if you don't do it, don't be shocked when someone else does.
Plus, Smackdown was announced day one for the FOX deal. We are two months from AEWs debut
If WWE wanted NXT on FS1 by now, they would have announced it last year, not last second.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 16:15:56 EST It2BUKqt No.6280861 Reply
>>6280853
TNT gave AEW a guaranteed timeslot. NXT does not have a timeslot on Fox Sports. NXT would be “counter-programming” if AEW beats NXT to TV.
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Caprice Coleman - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 16:26:00 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6280866 Reply
>>6280860
> Can you show me the exact date of said comments by WWE or FOX?
“Those absolutely have been in discussions with Fox. There have been discussions around additional promotional programming that would highlight other activities in WWE. So those are certainly very positive discussions that are taking place — both on FS1 and Fox Broadcast.”
WWE President Michelle Wilson, June 26, 2018: https://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2018/6/27/17511024/wwe-nxt-fox-sports-1-discussion-new-tv-deal-report

Ryan Satin had the scoop that it was NXT: https://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/wwe-fox-programming/#.XUyEKpNKi8o
These talks have been going on since before ALL IN

>If WWE wanted NXT on FS1 by now, they would have announced it last year, not last second.
It might not be WWE's call ya know.

It took seven months for TNT to announce the AEW deal. Lucha Underground was in development for almost two years. Anthem has been trying to buy AXS since last December (and may still be talking them with an NDA).

These kinds of things take time. Hell the "NXT on FS1" deal could all be hinging on how well SD does on Fox, which has nothing to do with AEW.

>You can say you want to do things but if you don't do it, don't be shocked when someone else does.
I agree with this. But it also doesn't mean you're doing something *because* someone else got there first.
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Hikaru Shida - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 18:04:14 EST CMXRMj7R No.6280904 Reply
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>>6280897
i remember haitch saying the same thing in an interview with grantland. remember grantland?
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123 Kid - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 19:31:58 EST jX1VrVxg No.6280928 Reply
Not starting with a Xia Li post...

You had ONE job OP
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Togi Makabe - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 21:26:49 EST ISVkPzm7 No.6280950 Reply
Whats going on with Paige and her boyfriend my feed is full of that shit
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Vine - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 21:31:26 EST nYZ8AKjd No.6280954 Reply
>>6280866
There's no way you're this stupid. As soon as AEW became reality, WWE started making massive increases in guaranteed pay, making dudes like Gallows and Anderson millionaires. They announced out of the blue that Evolve was going to stream on their network at the same time as AEW was on BR Live. Of course putting NXT on FS1 is designed to counter program. I don't like to use the term Stamford wife but come the fuck on. They've used NXT like this before, running head to head against ROH in the same cities on the same night.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 22:31:14 EST It2BUKqt No.6280980 Reply
>>6280954
>As soon as AEW became reality, WWE started making massive increases in guaranteed pay, making dudes like Gallows and Anderson millionaires.

See also: Mike and Maria Kanellis, who got paid a shitload of money even though they weren’t doing anything worth a damn in WWE all so WWE could keep them from leaving.
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Dr. Death Steve Williams - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 12:57:29 EST nzjWIPQX No.6281173 Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Bob Armstrong - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 15:20:14 EST LUMg+nxK No.6281213 Reply
>>6281206
she's still fairly new to wrestling bust shes a spicy chinese women (in her own words) so lewds of her are not only welcome, but allowed
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Major DeBeers - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 18:49:08 EST bWZ+YR1t No.6281289 Reply
Cornette's been offered free legal help to help him clear up the Canada thing, but Jim doesn't seem to want to make the effort.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 19:00:35 EST UveV14Hw No.6281296 Reply
The Peanut Butter Falcon just came out today and it is getting rave reviews and already got a 98% on RT. Anyone planning to see it?
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Junkyard Dog - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 04:21:10 EST 7rBQL008 No.6281433 Reply
>>6281289
Corny hates flying and has to drug himself each time he gets on a jet. He only did the UK stuff because they paid him big money. Driving to Canada from Kentucky probanly sucks balls too.
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Beth Phoenix - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 05:56:38 EST cfOXxE22 No.6281445 Reply
>>6280897
>Challenging the Mouse

Disney could just buy up WWE without a second thought and relegate Roman Reigns to a twerking joke in a Marvel movie's credits
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Equinox - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 06:41:23 EST sWy8jpny No.6281451 Reply
>>6281445
>Not making the Rock's cousin Namor the Sub Mariner to get on The Dwayne's good side.
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Ring Ryda Red - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 11:51:27 EST YhuTqZ9b No.6281509 Reply
>>6281451
For some reason the idea of Dwayne himself as Namor hit me instead of Roman and... it's not the worst?
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Beth Phoenix - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 12:02:00 EST cfOXxE22 No.6281511 Reply
>>6281509
Isn't he gonna be playing Black Adam? Swear that's been touted for years at this point, that'll be pretty good.

Do Marvel own Namor even yet? I know Universal randomly had Namor for some reason
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Chase Owens - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 13:11:48 EST GXHNtkkw No.6281534 Reply
>>6281511
I thought Namor was part of the FF family of characters? They're Disney post-merger since they're trying another goddamn FF movie for some dumb fucking reason
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Beth Phoenix - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 13:19:22 EST cfOXxE22 No.6281536 Reply
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>>6281534
Here's the image of it I have but it's probably outdated
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Percy Watson - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 13:33:16 EST dYhrmb6W No.6281542 Reply
>>6281536
It's a little more complicated than that. For example, Universal owns all the rights to any solo Hulk movies, but he's allowed to appear in other films/media (which is why we never got another Hulk movie after the Disney buyout).

Another weird thing was a bunch of villains (like Skrulls) were lumped into the Fantastic Four rights years ago. Marvel Studios essentially had to buy the rights back to use Skrulls in Captain Marvel. Fox owned Ego the Living Planet too, so there was some kind of negotiations to use him in GotG2.
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Chase Owens - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 13:52:03 EST GXHNtkkw No.6281545 Reply
>>6281542
I knew the thing about why we'll only get Soandso (with special guest star Hulk) movies from now on, but I just assumed Namor was lumped in with the FF family like I assume Skrulls and DOOM are
I wonder how and why anybody ever had ideas of a solo Namor project that put him there like that
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Beth Phoenix - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 14:23:59 EST cfOXxE22 No.6281551 Reply
>>6281545
It was tough enough to get people to take Aquaman seriously who has way more of a presence in the public's mindset, I guess they didn't have the balls to try do Namor
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Percy Watson - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 14:25:30 EST dYhrmb6W No.6281552 Reply
>>6281545
IIRC I think Namor was literally one of the first film rights to get sold outright (rather than just licensed).

I doubt MCU would even bother adding in Namor anyway. He's basically Aquaman-meets-Black-Panther. His role in MCU would be redundant, and any Namor film would just feel like a rip off of DCEU's Aquaman.
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Yumiko Inoue - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 15:58:51 EST deGM2g0B No.6281578 Reply
>>6281542
I was hoping they'd get the rights in time for Endgame to reveal that Thanos was trying to halve the population in the universe to keep Galactus from noticing all the ripe, full planets bursting with life force for him to feed on. Reality teems with life, and somewhere deep in the heart of the universe, the Devourer stirs.

Nah, it just seemed convenient to kill half the people just cuz.
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Beth Phoenix - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 17:49:48 EST cfOXxE22 No.6281619 Reply
>>6281578
>just cuz

Overpopulation killed his own planet, so he went on a crazy crusade that he was able to justify to himself was about making sure life survives and the universe thrives

It's better than asspulling a bigger threat out of nowhere that has never even been referenced in any prior movie. Thanos was probably the best villain they've done in superhero movies in a long time. Endgame needed to be a satisfying conclusion not just "fu fu fu, theres really a bigger threat", that's why they had to post credit scene stuff
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AC !QqL8nX9URE - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 18:04:37 EST wfc4Nl90 No.6281623 Reply
>>6281619
What kills me is he had the power to instead wish for an abundance of resources, or an end to all strife etc and instead he went right towards universal genocide.

Its like a villain in a movie who has a shit ton of tech that they could get rich and use the wealth to control shit instead just using said tech to make a fucking octopus suit to rob banks or what ever the fuck.
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Super Crazy - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 18:06:12 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6281625 Reply
>>6281623
>What kills me is he had the power to instead wish for an abundance of resources, or an end to all strife etc
I mean, if he did wish for that, there'd be no movie
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AC !QqL8nX9URE - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 18:46:31 EST wfc4Nl90 No.6281639 Reply
>>6281625
Sure there would have been, just let the heros assume he wants one goal but really wants another one, leading to them killing the only hope etc etc.

its never a good idea to write yourself into a corner, and Thanos wasn't as smart of a villain as people perceive him as being.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 18:55:11 EST It2BUKqt No.6281644 Reply
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>>6281619
>Thanos was probably the best villain they've done in superhero movies in a long time.

Two words: “Hey, Auntie.”
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Hornswoggle - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 18:58:20 EST pkrW7sEO No.6281647 Reply
>All this capeshit talk

This is a pro-wrestling board.
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Eric Young - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 20:20:10 EST deGM2g0B No.6281695 Reply
>>6281623
>>6281619
I guess I ultimately just wanted his big plan to be more than "become omnipotent, kill half the people, do nothing". Like, Thanos is smart enough to realize that removing half the population from a functioning society would absolutely fuck the infrastructure, but sure, when violence was his only option, he used violence. Ends justifies the means and all.

Like, they couldn't do the "impress Death" thing for a variety of reasons, but at least that that was true to Thanos's motivations. If Thanos's motivation is that he just loves life that gosh darned much that he's prepared to kill for it, and he becomes omnipotent and his plan is STILL "kill half the people, only FASTER"... I dunno, I wish there was more to it.

>>6281625
>I mean, if he did wish for that, there'd be no movie
Darkseid wants to end all strife, all unpredictability, all chaos, all dissenting thought...

Though god knows how the DCU will fuck over Darkseid once he actually makes it to the big screen.
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Alundra Blayze - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 20:26:57 EST GXHNtkkw No.6281696 Reply
>>6281695
iirc Death as a tangible entity had been a pretty well-established thing in Marvel by that point, hadn't it?
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Ivan Putski - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 21:01:45 EST NE3BuiC8 No.6281709 Reply
>>6281647
>Be a big enough pro wrestling fan to post on a Canadian pro wrestling imageboard
>Think that you're somehow above comic book movies

What a fag.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 00:20:28 EST It2BUKqt No.6281766 Reply
>>6281741
Jesus, kid, you're dying and you pick ENZO? Fuck, even Titus O'Neil would be a step up.
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Chainsaw Charlie - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 00:23:57 EST SjIU5GRF No.6281769 Reply
>>6281644
Black Panther has to be one of the most overrated movies in recent years. Micheal B Jordan played the role fantastically, but Killmonger was not a good character. Despite his sad backstory, he was pretty one dimensional, had a dumb plan and made Wakandans look like a bunch of tribalistic retards than the advanced enlightened society they're supposed to be.

Seriously aside from being the black superhero movie and having some good performances I really don't get why this is so popular, it's such an average, middle of the road Marvel movie and should be lumped in with the Spiderman reboots, Antman and Dr Strange.
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MVP - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 00:34:24 EST gh69CKgg No.6281772 Reply
>>6281769
Ant-Man, Homecoming, and Strange were generally well-received though.

So which Marvel movies are properly rated?
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Matt Bentley - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 02:29:49 EST 4ono7qJ4 No.6281793 Reply
>>6281772
Almost none of them, they're for the most part middle of the road, generic popcorn movies with shit villains. The last two avengers movies being exceptions. Possibly the second captain america movie as it's basically a worse mission impossible movie but with cap. Guardians movies are good because they feel unique due to james gunn's direction and not being as stock.

That's it, rest of them for the most part are average or slightly above average action movies.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 02:33:26 EST It2BUKqt No.6281795 Reply
>>6281769
>Killmonger was not a good character

Between an understanable motivation (seeking revenge on those who oppressed Black people around the world for centuries, the Wakandans who sat idly by while it happened, and the Black Panther who killed his father), a fitting plan (capture the throne of Wakanda and use the technology pioneered by the country to free Black people from subjugation and oppression), the way he carried it out (killing Klawe to gain access to Wakanda, then beating T'Challa to both win the throne and symbolically avenge his father’s death), and the fact that he did ultimately (help) change T’Challa’s mind about Wakandan isolation? Killmonger was a damn good character. He was also the best villain in the MCU until Thanos—and arguably still is, depending on how one feels about Thanos.

“Bury me in the ocean with my ancestors who jumped from ships 'cause they knew death was better than bondage” is still the best line in the entire fucking MCU, by the way.
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MVP - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 02:52:01 EST gh69CKgg No.6281798 Reply
>>6281793
I feel the same way about your takes that you feel about the MCU.

Fuck, at least come with something crazy, like "Ragnarok out-James Gunned James Gunn, and both GotG movies are only rated as highly as they are because people are ashamed to admit they watch capeshit."
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Alex Wright - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 06:00:48 EST 5bFvbLsD No.6281813 Reply
>>6281798
>your post is worthless because you didn't hamfist some lame, unfunny joke to go with it
American """"humour""""
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Mona - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 06:11:56 EST cfOXxE22 No.6281816 Reply
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>>6281795
>“Bury me in the ocean with my ancestors who jumped from ships 'cause they knew death was better than bondage”

Yeah gotta admit that was prettty cool. Really hope BP2 doesn't just go back to another generic stock villain
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Mean Smark Callous !DCxC2Z8fnY - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 06:21:05 EST mHVC6D8M No.6281819 Reply
>>6281810

No, NJ. Chris Jericho has seriously reinvented his character all these times. There aren't 12 Chris Jerichos.
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Joe E. Legend - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 06:28:04 EST z54f/jWb No.6281821 Reply
>>6281819

Could 12 Chris Jerichos beat 10 duck-sized Brock Lesnars who have merged into a nightmare flesh golem mecha?
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Brendan Michael Thomas - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 06:43:02 EST o6Y2Bqk5 No.6281823 Reply
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Would you click this
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 08:46:24 EST LXOZukbX No.6281842 Reply
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seems like AEW allowed Joey Janela to turn up to WWE events
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Vinnie Vegas - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 09:25:24 EST fU/VzqQS No.6281853 Reply
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I hope he's seven feet tall, something that can't be taught.
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Cowboy Bob Orton - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 09:58:15 EST b6Ee22oP No.6281860 Reply
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>>6281853
>tall
>blonde
>legend
>muscles
>not crazy about blacks
How much money did New Japan just give Hogan?
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Togi Makabe - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 13:12:45 EST BlrIoG3o No.6281947 Reply
>During Triple H’s post-Takeover: Toronto media conference, he was asked about the main event between Johnny Gargano and Adam Cole. Mike Johnson of PWInsider asked Triple H about the violent nature of the match after Vince McMahon recently referred to AEW as “Blood and Guts”.

>Triple H responded by saying that there was very little blood during the main event. Johnson noted that there was some blood on Cole’s back after the match.

>This caused a fiery response from Triple H about conspiracy theories. Here is what he said
“Honest to god you’re gonna call me out on that? I mean he gets scraped on the table. No — honest to god, you’re digging deep for this one. I gotta tell you guys there was nothing in that cage except for the barbed wire at the top which didn’t get used… did not get used.”

“There was nothing in that cage that you haven’t been seeing on TV in WWE consistently. So, to say this is some kind — man, you guys gotta get off your conspiracy theory stuff. You’re digging hard, but you’re making yourself look stupid.”

“I mean in general, you’re digging hard for something that ain’t there […] What did [Vince] say? He said ‘blood and guts’… did you see blood? Intentional blood? Right, you just answered the question so what you’re digging for isn’t there. Like, that’s the ridiculous thing in this. There was nothing there that you have not seen. Barbed wire as a deterrent for leaving the cage did not get used. Nobody intentionally bled, there was no blood anywhere… there were chairs, there were Kendo sticks. There were pliers, not needle-nosed so those were different, but what else was different? What was the gore and the guts that we went to that is making you say that this was a different turn?”


the argument starts at 6:40: https://youtu.be/8b4jKYK0rps?t=396
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 14:04:46 EST It2BUKqt No.6281976 Reply
>>6281947
Triple H is a third-rate second banana who is only in the spot he's in right now because he couldn't make it as an actor in Hollywood...but in this case, he's also right.
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Mona - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 14:43:57 EST cfOXxE22 No.6281987 Reply
>>6281947
Johnson is right, WWE trying to look down their nose at "blood and guts" whilst putting on matches with barbed wire, kendo sticks etc is kind of silly.

Also hilarious seeing the replies of the Hardcore WWE marks to that vid, desperately defending WWE or randomly bringing up AEW ticket sales
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Paul Bearer - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 14:53:46 EST cfd3jMVf No.6281992 Reply
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GOAT stables

Starting with the #1 obviously
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Kevin Sullivan - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 15:49:35 EST D31nMepN No.6282015 Reply
>>6280897
Why is this such a terrible thing, beyond the "hurr durr Steph" hate? Is she supposed to temper their ambitions and not be as big as possible? The WWE and the McMahons have made no secret of wanting to be a full-on entertainment and media company. Why not try to grow your business to be as big as Disney? Because they're "just a wrestling company"? Disney was once just a bunch of mouse and duck cartoons. If you don't aim high, you don't hit high.
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JV Rich - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 16:05:16 EST jEGuiRVR No.6282024 Reply
>>6282015
>Is she supposed to temper their ambitions and not be as big as possible?
Nah, just don't say stupid shit that shows a complete lack of self awareness. If she said 'We're already the Disney of the wrestling world, but we can get even bigger!' People would still laugh, but few could argue.

>>6281987
The worse thing about this whole thing is him pointing at how the barbwire wasn't even used and the blood was an accident. That's basically saying, 'hey we're gonna tease these things but not use them' which makes them look tame and lame af.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 16:07:28 EST It2BUKqt No.6282026 Reply
>>6282015
It’s terrible for two reasons:
  1. WWE executives who think the company could ever be another Disney—in any way—are deluding themselves. Disney owns multiple television networks, multiple movie studios, Marvel, many of the most successful animated feature films (and some of the most successful animated television shows) in the United States, and the IP rights to a staggering amount of media franchises. And that was before the Fox buyout. To think WWE could ever achieve the same level of success and power as The Walt Disney Corporation isn’t absurd, it’s off-the-charts delusion.
  2. Even if it were possible for WWE to be the next Disney (it’s not), the fact that Disney is what it is—a billion-dollar international multimedia empire with more sociopolitical power than a god and ownership of more popular media IPs than anyone should be comfortable with—doesn’t mean other companies should become that, too. WWE is already the Disney of pro wrestling; how much worse do you want it to be in that regard?
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Hurricane Helms - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 16:37:49 EST U28QmYT+ No.6282038 Reply
>>6282032
Low self esteem. They think they look funny, so they make a funny face as an excuse to look funny.
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Murphy - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 16:44:19 EST sen96rJ8 No.6282043 Reply
>>6282015
>Why is this such a terrible thing, beyond the "hurr durr Steph" hate?
It's not. Male wrestling fans will just jump on anything Steph says, even if it's totally unrelated to wrestling or anything else they know anything about.
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JV Rich - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 16:44:25 EST jEGuiRVR No.6282044 Reply
>>6282032
Does that guy look like someone who has a lot to smile about? That was probably his first female contact of the summer.

That or he's got haggard teeth.
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Ricardo Rodriguez - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 17:59:11 EST aepHZrTn No.6282095 Reply
>>6282043
Vintage centrist booker coming in to throw out the sexism card to defend a billionaire female CEO
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Bill Alfonos - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 18:04:19 EST 9Swo6F5K No.6282098 Reply
>>6282086
Why do women still play video games? Gamers are all insane gamergate cultists who hate women and minorities.
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Mephisto - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 18:10:32 EST q5F3edvi No.6282106 Reply
>>6282098
Consuming the media and associating with the media are separate things. Also, nice blanket statement.
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Road Warrior Animal - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 22:57:43 EST T5Ycresu No.6282392 Reply
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Jack Swagger jumping on the Goldberg hate bandwagon
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Johnny the Bull - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 10:50:14 EST pkrW7sEO No.6282570 Reply
>>6282392
Goldberg getting bullied by the shooters is the best arc in wrestling right now.
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The Mantaur - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 12:21:19 EST TbFJ2MsH No.6282631 Reply
>>6282392
>ratman267
why do wrestlers and wrestling journalists always fall for social media shit stirrers?
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Terri Runnels - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 12:45:31 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6282645 Reply
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>if this were the 80s & 90s, you would have gotten your ass beat for attempting to ask a wrestler to hold this sign

is it better or worse now?
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Jerrelle Clark - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 12:53:07 EST 5FEDgboW No.6282652 Reply
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>>6282443
>Bullet Club Booty Babe Bayley
>coming out dressed like Pieter and Mao chan used to
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Wifebeater - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 14:38:30 EST U28QmYT+ No.6282754 Reply
>>6282740
I wonder what the guy thought. I hate when I see someone with a Wu Tang shirt and I tell them their shirt ain't nothing to fuck with, or something, and they look at me all puzzled, like they've never heard a Wu Tang song in their life.
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Jim Cornette - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:57:09 EST wfc4Nl90 No.6282801 Reply
>>6282754
Saw a person with a Misfits shirt on, that said Misfits under the fucking Misfits logo.

I asked them what their favorite song from the Misfits was, and they replied
>who?
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 16:21:04 EST 8xUvQF3I No.6282820 Reply
>>6282810
>Video games are politics

lol the state of the american discourse right now
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 16:25:54 EST 8xUvQF3I No.6282825 Reply
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Did we ever get a report on this show?
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Johnny the Bull - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 16:49:30 EST pkrW7sEO No.6282844 Reply
>>6282840
AEW is killing both the indies and professional wrestling. Fucking Pockets gets signed to AEW. What a shitshow this promotion is.
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Husky Harris - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 16:53:27 EST d1obD4PJ No.6282850 Reply
>>6282844
Getting Orange Cassidy away from the indies is saving pro-wrestling.
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hi - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 16:57:21 EST 9YDmWtsC No.6282856 Reply
>>6282847
i’m on an anonymous message board. Not a “legend” with thousands of followers that he targets at people.

Just saying how do none of these grown men being called pussies and threatened do something besides spit on him like a high school girl (callihan)?

Also why the fuck is MLW employing him?
>>6280775
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Stacy Keibler - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:04:59 EST 7SkqhvG6 No.6282865 Reply
>>6282850

Maybe if you mean it's saving mainstream wrestling.

Cassidy is a star, and I'm fucking pissed. AEW needs to just go away.
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Terri Runnels - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:06:04 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6282867 Reply
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Johnny Wrestling is following in the footsteps of his idol Seth Rollins and responding to people who didn't like his match with Cole including >rovert
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Player Uno - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:08:00 EST atC1IopM No.6282869 Reply
>>6282867
This isn't nearly as pathetic as Seth, but still wrestlers need to be banned from social media.
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Little Egypt - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:14:40 EST 4ono7qJ4 No.6282877 Reply
>>6282867
This isn't that bad, Johnny basically just said a lot of people did like it, it's ok you didn't I'll take note of your criticisms.

This is nowhere near Seff's retarded takes trying to justify whatever shithouse baron corbin match he was apart of.
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Big Bad Mama - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:31:33 EST 5Td7IZI6 No.6282896 Reply
>>6282867
imagine being an actual high profile professional wrestler and actually responding to that rovert nigga and anyone surrounding him
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William Perry - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:36:46 EST RsDRXIPn No.6282902 Reply
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>>6282867
Seth basically had a cock in his mouth while doing his defending of the company. Jonny seems to be taking a more humble approach while saying he hey we might have done a little too much but i will try and do better next time. He is at least admitting his faults unlike seth.
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Wifebeater - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:37:00 EST U28QmYT+ No.6282904 Reply
>>6282867
Johnny Gargano is only putting on matches for the live crowd in attendence?

I guess he needs 3 more years in developmental to learn how to work for the hard cam.
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Ed Ferrara - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:39:13 EST EZldl/82 No.6282905 Reply
>>6282901
Oops submitted too early

NXT isnt high profile. NXT is basically a love letter from HHH and previously dusty to the indies and hardcore fans. It's a way of thanking fans for sticking with the shit that may overtake the main product

NXT isnt high profile, it still has a real ECW underground feeling to it
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Sinn Bodhi - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:42:13 EST nuYxYD3b No.6282908 Reply
>>6282904
He didn't even sell what happened in the match after the show ended on the Network
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Ed Ferrara - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:44:20 EST EZldl/82 No.6282911 Reply
>>6282909
If you hate wrestlers getting paid sure. Look at how wwe has helped Evolve and the like. Smarks are the most entitled people on the planet, nxt puts on the show of the month every takeover yet they still find ways to complain
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Jimmy Garvin - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:44:23 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6282912 Reply
>>6282865
>bawwww I have to make AEW the bad guy because they signed someone I like
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Onyx - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:49:52 EST R9+Ed7Bb No.6282918 Reply
>>6282911
ICW, Progress and Evolve are all in worse shape than before they had deals with WWE
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Super Dragon - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:55:04 EST NbxmdHMb No.6282920 Reply
>>6282911
Lol a lot of guys could make a good living doing indies. NXT is a pay decdease for a lot of people
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Gangrel - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 19:44:58 EST GXHNtkkw No.6282951 Reply
>>6282920
to be fair that was before the modern landscape where AEW is throwing money around like it's the Billionaire Ted days and ROH likes to pretend it matters too, so I wouldn't be shocked if a "stop working everywhere else" offer is a lot more impressive today than, say, a year ago
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Stacy Keibler - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 19:51:17 EST 7SkqhvG6 No.6282953 Reply
>>6282911

>nxt puts on the show of the month every takeover yet they still find ways to complain

NXT TakeOvers are no better than your typical GCW, PWG or BEYOND show. They're great when you compare them to the rest of WWE, but it's nothing you can't get somewhere else. Weekly shows suck ass. The TakeOvers are good, but they only happen about 5 times a year. GCW runs about 20 shows per year. Beyond has top-notch shows every single week with Uncharted Territory.

So yeah, would I rather someone I like wrestle in NXT where they can produce a great match MAYBE 5 times a year? Or would I rather them stay on the indies where they're free to wrestle everywhere and have great performances multiple times per month for multiple promotions?
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Super Dragon - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 19:52:53 EST NbxmdHMb No.6282954 Reply
>>6282951
We don't know what the AEW guys are making though. I'm sure most can still work indies
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Diamond Dallas Page - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 19:58:11 EST WuGJ2oLB No.6282957 Reply
>>6282954
Until October when they will be handcuffed to job to Cody's boys for eternity.
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Lash LeRoux - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 20:58:18 EST b6Ee22oP No.6283024 Reply
>>6282844
>AEW is killing both the indies and professional wrestling
All jokes aside, do you actually believe this?
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R.D. Evans - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 21:28:45 EST BlrIoG3o No.6283039 Reply
>>6282975
>Again with this meme?
every talent been openly broadcasting that they're leaving the indies at the end of September and going TV-exclusive with AEW. where's the meme in this?
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Lash LeRoux - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 21:53:49 EST b6Ee22oP No.6283062 Reply
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Seen this on snapchat
funny shit
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Konnan - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 22:05:19 EST sK8BwNDg No.6283070 Reply
>>6282975
To be fair, the "TakeOvers are nothing you can't get anywhere else" bit isn't wrong.
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Mia Yim - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 00:04:26 EST NE3BuiC8 No.6283142 Reply
>>6283062
Didn't Hogan oil up his daughter's ass like a decade ago? What a weird decision to use that for clickbait in 2019.
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Mia Yim - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 00:07:15 EST NE3BuiC8 No.6283146 Reply
>>6282869
It's pretty pathetic for a celebrity to respond to some nobody with like 20 retweets. How else does he find it other than vanity searching?
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Too Cold Scorpio - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 00:15:28 EST GXHNtkkw No.6283152 Reply
>>6283142
there's been random lolwat moments between them since that, and then more recently hollywood dirtsheets had a blind item about them and nick and mom basically all banging a lot
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Phineas I. Godwinn - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 05:32:52 EST dAX2Ge0E No.6283202 Reply
>>6283193
Im sure nobody told her about Sasha, and she only wanted to have attention
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Mean Smark Callous !DCxC2Z8fnY - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 11:34:17 EST mHVC6D8M No.6283274 Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Trevor Murdoch - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 12:25:52 EST ezz88rJR No.6283286 Reply
>>6283279
They are keeping the rosters separate again for the eventual move of Smackdown to Fox. So the Smackdown superstar stuff is gonna happen on Smackdown.
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KC Cloudy Day - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 12:30:10 EST AAX4i0gm No.6283289 Reply
>>6283274
>PLEASE GOD ATTENTION TO ME BRO
what a sad pathetic sight he has become
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Luna Vachon - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 12:34:28 EST F8fJXAHH No.6283294 Reply
>>6283202

That dumb Impact bitch (Kiera Hogan?) tweeted that Sasha Banks ripped her off and a bunch of people called her out since Mia Yim and Blue Pants had the blue hair first, so there were definitely people tagging her about it.
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DJ Hyde - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 12:40:23 EST 8Gjmu2Bm No.6283299 Reply
>>6283294
Kiera has a point though.
Mia and Leva had blue hair sure, but they had it either heel or face.
When Kiera turned heel, she dyed her hair blue.
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Too Cold Scorpio - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 12:54:30 EST GXHNtkkw No.6283310 Reply
>>6283309
I recognize the logic in what he says under normal circumstances, but when you're talking about people who give a shit about Ramoromaings it seems a safe bet they'll watch anything with a WWE logo in a corner
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Jake The Snake Roberts - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 13:23:02 EST gyttKEK0 No.6283322 Reply
>>6283294
If you're a non WWE wrestler people will always call you a rip off of a WWE wrestler, even if you had the gimmick first. Kiera is a black lady with red hair: she gets called an Ember Moon ripoff, Now she died her hair blue she wll get called a Sasha Banks rip off by the e'drones
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The People - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 13:59:01 EST DIKFKCIe No.6283343 Reply
>>6283328
We need an official list of wrestlers who should be allowed to use twitter, and Oney needs to be near the top of it.
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Tina Ferrari - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 15:41:38 EST 7yl6OnJa No.6283387 Reply
>>6283294
some literally who nobody: WWE RIPPED ME OFF
yea ok pal, you invtented blue hair
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Trevor Murdoch - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 18:25:30 EST Sisj5G0M No.6283501 Reply
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>tweets about how cool it is that Stone Cold drinks
>gets upset at smoking
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Lance Cade - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 18:30:18 EST 5l17+F3R No.6283509 Reply
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>>6283501
What do these people do in their lives? Don't they have anything better to do than get pissy about cigarettes of all fucking things?
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Reno - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 18:59:30 EST U28QmYT+ No.6283535 Reply
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>>6283509
Do you have anything better to do than get pissy about what a nobody posts to Twitter?
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Trevor Murdoch - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 19:13:56 EST Sisj5G0M No.6283544 Reply
>>6283535
She's right. Lived near a park where they'd go during mating season and they were the noise was so loud nothing could drown it out. Day and night, just a constant screeching.
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Leva Bates - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 20:02:24 EST GXHNtkkw No.6283581 Reply
>>6283322
wait, Kiera Hogan has hair?
I guess with all that ass going on I never noticed
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 21:48:05 EST NUuS/dap No.6283691 Reply
>>6283680
Between her wrestling drunk and having a confrontation with Travis Browne at last year's WrestleMania, she's taken a backseat and they're having her not wrestle till her contract expires. Who knows what's going on with her but she needs to get help.
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Shane Douglas - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 21:52:33 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6283696 Reply
>>6283691
I remember hearing about her appearance on Lillian Garcia's podcast
She sounds like she's probably depressed. Among other things, Fox talked about being ashamed of her career.
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 21:57:11 EST Zr7ATTLc No.6283700 Reply
>>6283696
>Among other things, Fox talked about being ashamed of her career.

Damn. I hope she's not too rough on herself, she was basically a company woman for WWE for over a decade, doing whatever they asked of her. She got in during the Divas era, I hope she's not beating herself up for not being what the current crop of women are now.
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Rico - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 22:03:38 EST deGM2g0B No.6283705 Reply
>>6283696
Damn. I really like Fox, and she has an ability to communicate her character every single second she's on-screen that the majority of the male roster could learn from.
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Leva Bates - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 22:24:17 EST GXHNtkkw No.6283730 Reply
>>6283696
>being ashamed of her career.
obviously
>lolwwe
but was there something egregious about her showing compared to any other rando to wander through that blighted shithole?
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Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 00:36:46 EST aYdd1DeT No.6283784 Reply
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>>6283328
Have to give Oney credit for living the gimmick.
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Atlantis - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 02:08:07 EST MGImt2Y1 No.6283793 Reply
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How many times did Batista ever wrestle in Japan?
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Jetta - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 02:29:50 EST EuixihYm No.6283799 Reply
>>6283793
>not exclusively following the career of Japanese wrestling legend David B. enthusiasta.
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Lioness Asuka - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 04:06:27 EST o6Y2Bqk5 No.6283813 Reply
>>6283793
I love Dave but he is straight up one of the biggest marks for the business
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Lenny Lane - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 04:21:12 EST upxcwBxh No.6283814 Reply
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>>6283696
I hope she is doing okay. I have always liked her but I can see why she might be disappointed in how her career worked out.

She has one of the best Northern Lights, which she should be really proud of.
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Lioness Asuka - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 04:38:09 EST o6Y2Bqk5 No.6283815 Reply
>>6283680
If he thinks she needs help with alcohol who the fuck is he to say he's "disappointed" in her

No seriously who is this guy
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Crowbar - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 04:48:03 EST VsqIuhiU No.6283818 Reply
>>6283815
I'm assuming some obsessive mark who thinks fox will go out with him if he keeps offering "advice" and "guidance"
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 05:48:13 EST 8xUvQF3I No.6283821 Reply
>>6283815
he runs the Squaredcircle Sirens (women's wrestling news) website
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Suwama - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 10:44:20 EST oBdJrrhd No.6283871 Reply
>>6283328
Man the end of Gargano's response sounds like something Ned Flanders would say.
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Ric Flair - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 11:51:18 EST HBLWC/LC No.6283899 Reply
>>6283328
As far as "wrestlers responding to online criticism" goes Johnny's being decently reasonable. I don't get the heat.
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Vincent J. McMahon - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:30:15 EST 4KDHSWO1 No.6283911 Reply
>>6283908
Yeah he’s doing a terrible job coming off like a star after main eventing a Takeover.
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Dale Oliver - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:33:50 EST cfOXxE22 No.6283912 Reply
>>6283911
>Main eventing a developmental show

Impressive stuff, 1 step below twerking with Hornswoggle in a 6 man tag on Raw
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Player Dos - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 14:09:34 EST 2FsU4OSk No.6283941 Reply
>>6283680
Is this guy her fucking Dad? Imagine being Alicia Fox and readibg this. what a fucking pathetic set of tweets from some shithead looking for social media points. I hope this dude gets some serious karma. Seriously. this tweet is so fucking dumb. If you are worried for someone maybe you shouldnt run to twitter and say your ashamed of them on a public manor. 1st: nobody knows this guy and 2nd: Youre contributing to the problem
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The Mantaur - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 14:20:20 EST 23DDSOSJ No.6283946 Reply
>>6283937
Classic Match Game is a treasure
The reboot is awful and misses all the charm of the original
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Wahoo McDaniel - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 15:07:28 EST Ybchf0OF No.6283956 Reply
>>6283937

Betty White is the only one from the original Match Game still alive, isn't she?
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Invader - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 19:41:25 EST JjimR5wX No.6284066 Reply
>>6283946
>Classic <literally every rebooted franchise/show ever> is a treasure
>The reboot is awful and misses all the charm of the original

Fixed that for you. There's never been a good reboot in the history of arts.
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Big John Studd - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 21:38:01 EST G9cW5MRV No.6284094 Reply
>>6284092

To be fair, he's been running an "I Fuck Moms" gimmick the last few weeks.
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Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 21:46:34 EST aYdd1DeT No.6284097 Reply
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>>6284090
Wow.. how humiliating this must be for AJ.
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Kanyon - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 22:44:23 EST AAX4i0gm No.6284110 Reply
So UFC fighter contracts are just as carny as WWE performer deals;
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2019/8/13/20758629/ufc-lawsuit-docs-reveal-joe-silva-negotiation-tactics-nick-diaz-roy-nelson-hector-lombard-mma-news?utm_campaign=bloodyelbow&utm_content=entry&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

>Below are a number of interesting details regarding clauses in UFC contracts. Also below are examples of how Silva utilized these clauses to ensure that fighters were under UFC control for as long as possible, under less than ideal terms for fighters.

>In one of Singer’s passages (see Extract 1) it is established that most UFC contracts, “include provisions that toll the agreement for any period that a fighter is injured, retired, or otherwise unable or unwilling to appear in a bout.”

>‘Tolling’ is a legal term, which in this context, means pausing, delaying, or suspending a time period within a contract.

>Sometime before November 2012 the UFC began utilizing another tactic to prolong the amount of time a fighter is contracted to the UFC; ‘injury extensions’ (see Extract 2). Singer’s report alleges that the UFC began automatically extending the contracts of fighters’ who were known to be injured after a bout, thus prolonging how long a fighter was controlled by the UFC and how long the UFC had to offer them bouts.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 22:46:45 EST NUuS/dap No.6284111 Reply
>>6284110
I didn't know there was a word for it but yes tolling is such a bullshit tactic but it's WWE and UFC's way of exerting control over its independent contractors from being able to freely jump to another promotion.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 23:00:45 EST It2BUKqt No.6284113 Reply
>>6284111
It's how WWE kept Rey Mysterio under a contract for, like, a year longer than he should've been.
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The Blue Meanie - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 23:42:59 EST klEi0XJX No.6284125 Reply
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jhon vs fiend cpnfrimed
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Vickie Guerrero - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 23:48:59 EST 3EbjggAE No.6284129 Reply
>>6284110
>
In 2014 the UFC’s top lawyer Lawrence Epstein wrote in an email to Assistant General Counsel Kirk Hendrick and Senior Vice President Business, Legal, and Government Affairs Mike Mersch, about Jones, stating, “We need to send him a letter formally offering the Gustafson (sic) fight and giving him a specific deadline to accept or reject. When he says no we need to extend him.”


>Singer’s report quotes Silva, who explained that when Lombard was on the fourth fight of his eight-fight UFC contract, he stood to make $205,000 to show and $75,000 to win. However, Silva said he was able to convince Lombard to fight for less than half that amount ($100,000) in exchange for not being cut by the promotion.
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Joel Maximo - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 23:59:35 EST gh69CKgg No.6284132 Reply
>>6284066
To the Japanese: Mahoujin Guru Guru's 2017 remake
To people born after 1970: Star Wars to the Hidden Fortress or any good reimagining/retelling/straight theft of Shakespeare. Also Marlowe's Faust to Goethe's Faust to The Master and Margarita.
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Aika Ando - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 09:02:08 EST Kj4hpnKO No.6284218 Reply
>>6284210
Hey man Nikki isn't the most attractive person in the world but calling her a pig is just rude...
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The People - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 09:09:19 EST DIKFKCIe No.6284221 Reply
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>>6284218
>Cena's dictatorship relationship drove Nikki Bella into a lesbian relationship with Alexa Bliss
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The Rock - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:00:28 EST GXHNtkkw No.6284287 Reply
>>6284286
I was aware that "Tommy eats gross and weird things" was supposedly based on a thing he did irl to get a rise out of people, but eww
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Naomichi Marufuji - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:39:59 EST G0aUFK+2 No.6284299 Reply
>>6284285
>performance fighter

Jesus, give Leukemia its rematch, already.
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Dragonfly - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:47:34 EST WM89b3X2 No.6284302 Reply
>>6284285
> performance art
thats how theyre branding it nowadays??

Fucking A’, Vince, just die and go out of business already.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:48:15 EST w1UkaoS1 No.6284304 Reply
>>6284285
>performance fighter

This ain't an improv show about wrestling
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Billy Kidman - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 13:20:32 EST Jyafr0HS No.6284312 Reply
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>>6284285
200 IQ Beeg Dawg coming up with brilliant synonyms for Wrestler
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 13:21:01 EST t6E97uCq No.6284313 Reply
>>6284304
>an improv show about wrestling

that is sort of what pro wrestling is
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Leticia Kline - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:12:41 EST sWy8jpny No.6284350 Reply
>>6284313
That's what it's supposed to come across as.
However, everything is micromanaged and overscripted to the point where very little in the way of improv is actually possible, at on the television product.
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Balls Mahoney - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 17:07:44 EST xtOIPa+6 No.6284381 Reply
>>6284285
>Sports Entertainer
>Superstar
>Performance Fighter
I wonder what new word Vince will come up with next to avoid the word wrestler.
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Tito Santana - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 18:04:07 EST 1+3HN/wT No.6284408 Reply
>>6284302
In fairness, wrestling is a performance art. Doesn't mean wrestlers should call it that.
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Big Bad Mama - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 19:13:40 EST 5l17+F3R No.6284452 Reply
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>>6284442
Did you write enthusiast or the word starting with a

You know what nvm I dont wanna know
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Sandman - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 22:34:12 EST kDhu5Ddp No.6284534 Reply
>>6284381
my personal label for wrestling is Sports Fiction. So Sports Actor I guess.
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Irwin R. Schyster - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 00:39:28 EST 1/S/IEzo No.6284571 Reply
>>6284562
Who is he referring to though? Vague-tweeting is the most annoying shit in any context.
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Al Snow - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 06:47:35 EST SjIU5GRF No.6284610 Reply
>>6284583
Watched it last night. Pretty comfy, doesn't bitch or overreact, just pounds that chicken and tells old wrestling stories.
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Ring Ryda Blue - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 08:38:44 EST NpmqCx/u No.6284627 Reply
>>6284583
This is why Stone Cold is the GOAT. He isn't phased by the spicy wings, but he still sells for them because he respects the business.
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Yoshi Tatsu - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 08:58:20 EST 4rhXNZUw No.6284631 Reply
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>blue collar strong
>Eats like $100 of sushi
>Not a single steak
Not really living the gimmick there, otis
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Johnny B. Badd - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 10:11:46 EST RsDRXIPn No.6284646 Reply
>>6284632
that reminds me of this story from the Paul London abd Brian Kendrick shoot

>Now, they tell a story about Benoit at a Bob Evans. London and Kendrick were sitting on one side of the table and at the other side were Jamie Noble (who London refers to as "Mini Benoit"), Bob Holly, and Chris Benoit. Benoit orders an insane breakfast, demanding his steak be steamed, with Bob Holly asking for twice as much food. London said he ordered egg whites and and a small steak to not piss them off but Benoit made him get the big steak. When Kendrick ordered, he asked for pancakes and waffles with all sorts of syrup and as the waitress was taking the order, Benoit reached his hand across the table and pushed down the waitresses pad and made Kendrick order what he had and watched him as he ate everything on his plate. London said he valued these experiences though and unerstood some of what they were trying to teach them.
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Al Snow - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 12:11:08 EST SjIU5GRF No.6284685 Reply
>>6284646
The more of the Benoit stories I hear the more I understanding I gain as to why he did what he did.
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Teddy Long - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 12:42:06 EST st+23+WD No.6284702 Reply
>>6284685
There's a reason why people in back were asking if he did it during the Benoit Tribute show.
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Paul Orndorff - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:21:59 EST LtvAlZOW No.6284774 Reply
>>6282024
Yeah, and when they DO use them, like in Ambrose/Jericho, it makes it seem like a huge moment.

Less is more Padawan.
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Paul Orndorff - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:34:39 EST LtvAlZOW No.6284781 Reply
>>6284569

Heel man from company known for keeping Kayfabe says Heel things.

Hold the front fucking page.
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D'Lo Brown - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 20:14:03 EST 5Jd3SZLC No.6284901 Reply
>The suit was litigated by attorney Konstantine Kyros, who has been involved in a number of other lawsuits against WWE.

Man, I wish I had a dollar for every time I've read this on Wikipedia.
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Goldberg - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 10:58:03 EST l2mBEEDp No.6285046 Reply
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Talk about an unexpected Twitter interaction...
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Crowbar - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 18:21:22 EST I7akJgiR No.6285158 Reply
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>WWE celebrates Paige's birthday on Youtube
>Comments
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Claudio Castagnoli - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 19:17:24 EST 1Thwe0/g No.6285175 Reply
>>6285168
On a site note, while looking for the video I came across this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPfNFWY7sxs

I remember there being some thread talking about how WWE is pushing for everyone to have these nicknames but I shrugged it off. After watching this its crazy to see how much they push for everyone to have some sort of phrased attached to their names.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 19:34:18 EST It2BUKqt No.6285181 Reply
>>6285175
It's not just nicknames. It's catchphrases, too. WWE never met a phrase it couldn't beat to death and beyond before finally burying it. The problem is that rather than allowing an organic moment or off-the-cuff remark to become a catchphrase or nickname (e.g., “Suplex City, bitch!”), WWE often intentionally scripts wrestlers and commentators to say the corniest bullshit imaginable so the company can turn it into a forced catchphrase or nickname (e.g., “The WWE Universe calls him ‘The Wildcat’!”; “the three most destructive letters in sports entertainment”).
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Pitbull - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 20:46:21 EST deGM2g0B No.6285200 Reply
>>6285181
It's so frustratingly obvious, too. All of a sudden, Cole will start referring to Aleister Black as "the man from Amsterdam with no absence of malice" or something dumb like that, and all you can do is sigh and resign yourself to having to hear that 7 times a match.

Meanwhile, when they DO stumble across something that connect organically, like "I'M NOT FINISHED WIT YOU YET", they abandon it.
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Aero Star - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 20:56:28 EST 5l17+F3R No.6285202 Reply
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>>6285181
My favorite is the "extraordinary man who does extraordinary things" or whatever fucking garbage it was. What the fuck, did a 10 year old come up with this shit? And was he mentally handicapped ?
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Alex Riley - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:03:02 EST F8fJXAHH No.6285204 Reply
>>6285202

It was originally supposed to be the "Ordinary Man Who Does Extraordinary Things" but Vince freaked out over him being called ordinary and changed it to what we have now.
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Nova - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:19:19 EST 1/S/IEzo No.6285209 Reply
>>6285204
Between this, his dogged insistence that WrestleMania no longer have numerical postfixes because it implies WrestleMania is "too old", and having a preset list of "proper" terms to use instead of usual terms (i.e. "local medical facility" instead of hospital) you could write a fucking novel on the sheer amount of Vince's unbelievably minor idiosyncrasies.
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Bushwhacker Luke - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:22:49 EST 0wS+NVm7 No.6285210 Reply
>>6285209
He's not insane he's just very enthusiastic.
In ever sense of that word
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Ranjin Singh - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:38:14 EST l4fEqB+B No.6285214 Reply
>>6285209
I always find the mania thing hilarious as if his biggest competition for buy rates isn't UFC that's about to run an event with the number 241 in it. That show is probably gonna be the biggest for the year or number two. If anything, I now have a harder time remembering which Mania is which since that stopped after I think 30? They all kinda run together and I think numbers helped the memory stand out instead of trying to remember star or play button or which city they were in.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:40:46 EST It2BUKqt No.6285217 Reply
>>6285209
>you could write a fucking novel on the sheer amount of Vince's unbelievably minor idiosyncrasies

Or a Taimapedia article...IF IT WAS STILL UP
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Nova - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:48:27 EST 1/S/IEzo No.6285221 Reply
>>6285214
Being a person who only periodically keeps up with wrestling, I only know the trappings of WrestleMania 31 solely by virtue of it being the first of the non-numbered Manias. Gun to my head, if you were to ask me the main event of 32-36 though? Done for.
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Bushwhacker Luke - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:51:11 EST 0wS+NVm7 No.6285223 Reply
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>>6285201
she's a little bit thotty tho, but just a bit
and that's ok!
it's a good thing
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 22:19:50 EST q3U6Z4Co No.6285232 Reply
>>6285214
And the NFL still numbers the Super Bowls and they're coming up to 54.
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Wifebeater - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 22:21:20 EST 6fshvyoH No.6285234 Reply
where can I stream the Nate Diaz fight?
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The Undertaker - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 22:30:33 EST BxsoGG2K No.6285240 Reply
>>6285214
What's so hard about remembering

Wrestlemania Play
Wrestlemania Star
Wrestlemania Sun
Wrestlemania Squid
and Wrestlemania Crown?
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The Undertaker - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 22:38:23 EST BxsoGG2K No.6285243 Reply
>>6285219
Missy is the second most attractive person in a photo which includes 64 year old Lanny Poffo. She looks dire.
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Nova - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 23:00:26 EST 1/S/IEzo No.6285249 Reply
>>6285245
Can't wait when it's an hour into the show and Vince changes plans.

Actually I can because I don't watch this shit looooool
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Mean Gene Okerlund - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 01:01:32 EST c4GrCWrN No.6285278 Reply
There is rumor going around that Kairi Sane may have walked out of the WWE
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 01:08:43 EST It2BUKqt No.6285279 Reply
>>6285278
I wouldn't blame her if she did. Given how WWE's treated both her and Asuka, walking out would be the best thing for her career at this point.
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Juan Cena - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 01:19:22 EST ILh9z4lm No.6285284 Reply
>>6285281
Source too because Asuka tagged with Ember Moon at a house show that happened yesterday.
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Cody Rhodes - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 02:00:15 EST HBLWC/LC No.6285302 Reply
>>6285278
She's right to.

Especially since doing so got Sasha exactly what she wanted.
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Terri Runnels - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 02:05:53 EST TLz8eCPB No.6285306 Reply
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If you come at Big Dust you best not miss.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 02:13:28 EST q3U6Z4Co No.6285307 Reply
>>6285292
Yeah she's probably just injured or something. I'd be surprised if she walked out.
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Cody Rhodes - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 02:21:46 EST HBLWC/LC No.6285313 Reply
>>6285311
He's referring to Dave Benthusiasta getting hot over a joke about Ribera
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 02:30:37 EST q3U6Z4Co No.6285315 Reply
>>6285306
Guess Dave doesn't get Dustin's sense of humor but Big Dust does make a good point about his hypocrisy.
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Daivari - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 02:39:10 EST 6zVWU+6j No.6285316 Reply
>>6285306
I think Dave is just enthusiastic and didn't realise he was joking. But fair point.
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Edge - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 02:39:22 EST o6Y2Bqk5 No.6285317 Reply
>>6285315
It's not really hypocrisy considering
  1. Dave wasn't defending the pedo joke itself
  2. Dave had no idea Taylor's joke even was a joke

Drawing the comparison is a funny joke, though. But he's not really pointing out hypocrisy here
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The Mantaur - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 06:37:41 EST yf09eetF No.6285351 Reply
>>6285204
The irony is that the way it's said, it comes out as "The extraordinary man who does extra-ordinary things". Which just means those things he does are literally more ordinary than just ordinary.
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Johnny Grunge - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 10:00:27 EST YhuTqZ9b No.6285400 Reply
>>6285202
I honestly thought it was a rib the first time they said it but they just... keep... saying it.
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Mean Smark Callous !DCxC2Z8fnY - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 10:06:41 EST wCp1Z5sB No.6285401 Reply
>>6285351

Exactly. He's an extraordinary man who does extra ordinary things like locking his car doors with the button inside when exiting his car and then locking the doors again with the keyless remote! You can never be too careful.
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Brodie Lee - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 20:41:10 EST BlrIoG3o No.6285538 Reply
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is Joey right to do this -- or is he gotten-to?
>I absolutely give 0 fucks what people think of me, my friends & family have been watching me for half my life (legitimately) try to accomplish my dreams & in Oct they will get to see me on tv.. I’ve been through so much shit in my life, someone calling me Jelly won’t offend me..

>But what does offend me is someone saying that I’m a shitty wrestler from word of mouth, anyone that has watched my work over the years knows that’s completely false. I 100% could’ve taken 0 risks over the last 3 years & would’ve found a way to get myself to the position I am now

>I suffered a bad knee injury in September & came back 3-4 months early, wrestled a heavier schedule & wrestled at a higher caliber right off the bat with 0 in ring practice before my 1st match back. Wrestling Flawless 30 min-one hour matches with constant attention & appreciation

>I’ve worked great names over the last few years, that came back to the locker room teary eyed because I made them feel young again by working & pacing a match that made the fans appreciate them like it was their prime...

>Say I’m fat, say I have crackhead teeth whatever it doesn’t bother me.. say I’m a shitty wrestler that irks me because no one works harder in the ring than me! Most of you trolls didn’t live your dream because you never had the balls to try....
https://twitter.com/JANELABABY/status/1162873792424828928
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Low Ki - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 20:58:03 EST NE3BuiC8 No.6285542 Reply
>>6285538
>But what does offend me is someone saying that I’m a shitty wrestler

...but Janela is a shitty wrestler. He does dangerous spots and mutilates himself to get over. Any match he's in of decent length is terrible because he doesn't know how to tell a story in the ring and has no ring psychology. He's all movez and shock factor. Just because he says he "works hard" doesn't make him a good wrestler. He knows his niche and he has his fans because of it.
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2 Tuff Tony - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 21:03:22 EST lz238I/V No.6285544 Reply
>>6285542
I remember the hype started when that Zandig match happened and went viral. Before that people really weren't talking about him in that way so you might be right.
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Skip Sheffield - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 21:06:13 EST 8kyTimBL No.6285545 Reply
>>6285538
Cornette really needs to ditch those shitty South Park-esque screens for his videos.
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Slick Johnson - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 21:11:35 EST /CS6B+DL No.6285549 Reply
>>6285538
>I absolutely give 0 fucks what people think of me
>But what does offend me is someone saying that I’m a shitty wrestler
He's the dictionary definition of gotten to. I don't want to believe the marks are in the ring, but I can't ignore the facts.
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Lexie Fyfe - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 21:23:06 EST gpLb0YOR No.6285559 Reply
>>6285202
I thought it was "extra-ordinary things" as a callback to his old video packages showing that this legit Armani model is just a dork who likes Lego
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Cody Deaner - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 21:33:35 EST zAmIysPE No.6285562 Reply
>>6285549
Did you finish reading that sentence? The point was you can call him shit if you actually watch him and think he's shit.
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Brodus Clay - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 21:47:08 EST ezz88rJR No.6285570 Reply
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Is she really so naive?
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The Sheik - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 21:56:34 EST b6Ee22oP No.6285577 Reply
>>6285570
>She will never tie you up, steal your treasure and torture you by rubbing her feet in your face
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 01:01:16 EST Qzz15cLY No.6285601 Reply
>>6285537
Nese was the one that suggested the idea - https://twitter.com/TonyNese/status/1163134355646144513

Also Oney Lorcan's tweets in picking his team are hilarious:

https://twitter.com/_StarDESTROYER/status/1162034417868705793
https://twitter.com/_StarDESTROYER/status/1162389392394203141
https://twitter.com/_StarDESTROYER/status/1162745218459996161
https://twitter.com/_StarDESTROYER/status/1162746818863730693
https://twitter.com/_StarDESTROYER/status/1163100013335142400
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Dude Love - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 01:49:11 EST D9objlTI No.6285619 Reply
>>6285538
>because no one works harder in the ring than me!
You sure that's not seth quote? Also whata mark. He really should learn from master. Big sexsy Kevin Nash: only things that's matter is miles and money.
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The People - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 02:15:36 EST DIKFKCIe No.6285624 Reply
>>6285601
>THE FIRST PERSON I CHOOSE TO HAVE ON MY TEAM IS GENTLEMAN JACK GALLAGHER
>BECAUSE HE HAS A MUSTACHE AND HE KNOWS KARATE
Give Gulak fucking all the gold. Every single title in the company. Even the women's titles.
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Vickie Guerrero - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 04:06:40 EST jEGuiRVR No.6285637 Reply
>>6285601
Hahaha he types in ALL CAPS EPIC! Give him all the titles we're not worthy XD
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David Arquette - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 04:16:02 EST azR3Vdyn No.6285640 Reply
>People finally getting behind the devil eyes.
Yes. Yes.
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Christ Sabin - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 10:35:26 EST LNeSBRQV No.6285747 Reply
>>6285637
At least he's doing something different on twitter. What do you want? His actual name plastered all over the page while he gives shitty worked shoots that will never get followed up on?
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Psicosis - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 10:37:47 EST XK9eMzYu No.6285748 Reply
>>6285732
While Cornette’s booking has made companies lose money like ROH and SMW
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Hajime Ohara - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 10:46:44 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6285753 Reply
>>6285748
>Cornette’s booking made ROH lose money like ROH
I wanted to look into this and here's what I found:
>Between live attendance and PPV buys, the 2010 edition of Final Battle became the most watched event in the history of the promotion.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/548754-ring-of-honor-delivers-the-best-wrestling-show-of-2010-with-final-battle

> they've been fairly flat since 2010, but you could argue by running more shows and actually increasing their average attendance over the prior year, they were actually up.
http://indeedwrestling.blogspot.com/2014/02/a-word-about-roh-and-tna-draws.html
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Mark Briscoe - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 10:55:02 EST NbxmdHMb No.6285757 Reply
>>6285748
He is literally the reason why ROH got sold to Sinclair and survived
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2 Tuff Tony - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 10:56:32 EST lz238I/V No.6285758 Reply
>>6285748
It's weird that you bring up Cornette but whatever, I'll bite.

Nothing was drawing when SMW went tits up not even Vince. It took Heyman and other people with some new ideas to breath new life into the business. There is a case to be made that his style would have been more successful in different times. Of course money plays a role and he never not had to compete with Vince except when he was employed by him and in that times a lot of money was made. He was one of the creative minds in the Attitude Era and ran OVW, a feeder company that produced multiple draws.
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Hajime Ohara - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 11:00:16 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6285762 Reply
>>6285758
>Nothing was drawing when SMW went tits up not even Vince.
>It took Heyman and other people with some new ideas to breath new life into the business.

to be fair, its not like Heyman was drawing money with those ideas either. Vince & Bischoff made money by straight up stealing them but go figure they had corporate backing.

Also, when comparing ECW to SMW: ECW went out of business, in debt -- and its wrestlers never got paid.
even in SMW's downfall, Cornette made sure all the talents got paid what they were owed.
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The People - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 11:02:28 EST DIKFKCIe No.6285764 Reply
>>6285758
>It's weird that you bring up Cornette
"Funny don't make money" is literally Cornette's line. This is like someone asking why people would bring up Russo if they first said "go to Japan if you want lucha libre"
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Hajime Ohara - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 11:07:53 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6285766 Reply
>>6285764
even still, ROH & SMW don't disqualify Cornette's opinion because he's also *made* a lot of money too.

If one mistake is all it takes to disqualify you, then literally NO ONE in wrestling is valid.
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Brodus Clay - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 11:30:55 EST ezz88rJR No.6285772 Reply
>>6285757
So when Anthem swooped in a saved Impact it's because Dixie was doing such a good job?
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Hajime Ohara - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 11:36:13 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6285774 Reply
>>6285772
technically different circumstances:
Anthem bought TNA because Dixie owed them money and couldn't pay, so Anthem collected on the deal

Sinclair *bought* ROH at a time when they saw potential in it and wanted to invest. Cornette didn't put them into debt; they were always operating in the red
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hi - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 12:15:35 EST T33GQFOV No.6285788 Reply
David Starr ended Cornette’s whole miserable existence this morning.

Roasted to the point Cornette logged off.

Tried his shit with someone who knows how to cut a promo and lost his head 😂😂😂😂
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Scott Lost - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 12:22:40 EST Kqr8c+vw No.6285794 Reply
>>6285788
> David Starr ended Cornette’s whole miserable existence this morning.
Sure you did David
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hi - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 12:33:12 EST T33GQFOV No.6285800 Reply
>>6285793
>ran out of shit to say to the point he was calling David “pubeface”
>Let Starr run down his whole career, position in the industry, and hateful outdated bullshit
>logged off

I mean. That sounds like getting fucking roasted to me. But okay.
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Derek Sabato - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 12:53:14 EST +1W8HmRq No.6285805 Reply
You know you're a shithead if you're making David Starr look good on Twitter. Might as well throw Austin Aries in to this argument just to complete the set
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Cody Rhodes - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 13:12:28 EST v+E41uU7 No.6285810 Reply
>Starr randomly bringing up the N word in this like a twat
Cornette is onto something when he called him "phony"
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Hajime Ohara - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 13:27:59 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6285815 Reply
>>6285800
>>ran out of shit to say to the point he was calling David “pubeface”
Cornette has always made those kinds of insults

>>Let Starr run down his whole career, position in the industry, and hateful outdated bullshit
no he didn't

>>logged off
Cornette doesn't spend 24/7 on twitter. he's routinely done the "i'm done insulting people, be back later" messages.

Cornette just did what Cornette does and no-sell every indie wrestler taking a shot at him by getting the last word in and then moving on with his day.

The fact that indie wrestlers keep responding to him is his victory. the key to this is no-selling Jim if you really want to stick it to him.
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Hajime Ohara - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 13:53:58 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6285824 Reply
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sounds like cornette is starting to get annoyed with dave, and I still don't see anything WRONG in cornette's points
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Ryuji Ito - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 14:28:32 EST sK8BwNDg No.6285839 Reply
>>6285824
Jim Cornette's giving anecdotal evidence, you really can't call that sort of thing wrong.
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Vito Thomaselli - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 14:42:11 EST U28QmYT+ No.6285845 Reply
>>6285839
Yeah, I don't really get what Jim is getting at here. A wrestler can literally show ass while it is presented as a real sport. This happened back then. He can't deny, but I don't think he is... https://youtu.be/DozHEp2Cy2U

Does he mean to say that a guy doing high flying spots today is less believable than Ricky steamboat or Savage coming off the top rope? Cause that doesn't make sense. Is he saying more people today think wrestling is fake than they did in the 80s? That's not a point worth making...

I'd like to see him go into more detail there, cause on the face of it, I don't get what he's trying to say.
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Robbie E - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 14:49:32 EST BxsoGG2K No.6285848 Reply
JIM CORNETTE IS WORKING PEOPLE FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF GETTING SOME ATTENTION. STOP TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.

JIM CORNETTE IS WORKING PEOPLE FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF GETTING SOME ATTENTION. STOP TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.

JIM CORNETTE IS WORKING PEOPLE FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF GETTING SOME ATTENTION. STOP TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.

JIM CORNETTE IS WORKING PEOPLE FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF GETTING SOME ATTENTION. STOP TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.

JIM CORNETTE IS WORKING PEOPLE FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF GETTING SOME ATTENTION. STOP TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.
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Mark Briscoe - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 14:52:07 EST NbxmdHMb No.6285849 Reply
>>6285848
Why? The dude is always asked to do conventions and does commentary for MLW
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hi - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 14:53:37 EST y2D7u7RN No.6285850 Reply
>>6285848
He should still be punched in the face tho for it.

And his narc ass snitch cult is an embarrassment to wrestling fans.
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Hajime Ohara - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 14:54:15 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6285851 Reply
>>6285845
>Does he mean to say that a guy doing high flying spots today is less believable than Ricky steamboat or Savage coming off the top rope?
no. He has repeated himself ad nauseum about this between podcasts and twitter and interviews:

Orange Cassidy pocket spots, Joey Ryan dickflips, Priscilla Kelly tampon spots, Invisible Man spots, Darby Allin coffin dropping on the apron for a mid match spot that's not the finish, kicking out of canadian destroyers mid-match are less believable than the high spots from the 80s that the RnR Express used. Because the old school spots were still treated as match finishing big deals and didn't comedically draw attention to the fact that wrestling is fake. Those high spots were done in the name of winning a match, not getting a laugh from the audience

Is he wrong?
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hi - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 14:56:05 EST y2D7u7RN No.6285856 Reply
>>6285851
Yes

Wrestling can be whatever the fuck it wants to be.

If people will pay for it and enjoy it.

Then fuck off. It’s not for you.

Not everything has to be for everyone. It’s okay for people to like things you don’t like.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 14:58:05 EST It2BUKqt No.6285857 Reply
>>6285851
He's not wrong, but he's not entirely right, either. Wrestling evolves. It can't go back to a time where the most exciting high spot was a simple top rope splash. That doesn't necessarily mean wrestling must evolve in the direction he's suggesting it is, but it can’t simply stay the same regardless.
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hi - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 14:59:08 EST y2D7u7RN No.6285858 Reply
>>6285855
Actively going out of your way to take time to hurt other grown ass adult’s reputation/pay because you don’t like how they perform isn’t worth at least one right hook?

Hating on and trying to stop anyone getting money, yes, is certified bitch made shit that deserves a counteraction
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Vito Thomaselli - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:05:20 EST U28QmYT+ No.6285863 Reply
>>6285851
No one in that Twitter exchange brought up dick flips, tampons, invisible men or pockets, so yes.
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2 Tuff Tony - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:06:46 EST lz238I/V No.6285865 Reply
>>6285858
How is he hurting reputation/pay by voicing his opinion? I've never seen Jim advocating for boycot of talent in any way.
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Hajime Ohara - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:13:26 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6285871 Reply
>>6285856
>Wrestling can be whatever the fuck it wants to be. If people will pay for it and enjoy it.
How much money has Joey Ryan's Bar Wrestling drawn compared to the Midnight Express' runs in Crockett, Mid South and WCW?

>>6285858
>Actively going out of your way to take time to hurt other grown ass adult’s reputation/pay because you don’t like how they perform isn’t worth at least one right hook?
Joey Ryan, Ryan Satin, Jordynne Grace have snitch-tagged MLW and/or beIN Sports to try to get him in trouble with his employers. How is that okay? And when has Cornette actually tried to mess with any of these wrestlers' employment? How is him saying "I don't like what they do" the equivalent of trying to get them fired?
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Hajime Ohara - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:18:16 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6285875 Reply
>>6285857
> Wrestling evolves. It can't go back to a time where the most exciting high spot was a simple top rope splash. That doesn't necessarily mean wrestling must evolve in the direction he's suggesting it is, but it can’t simply stay the same regardless.

You are correct. And Cornette has had good things to say about: Cody Rhodes, MJF, Adam Page, Jon Moxley, the Lucha Bros, Trent Barreta, Jungle Boy & Luchasarus, one of the guys in Private Party, and Awesome Kong from AEW.
He obviously loved what Eddie and Davey and Roderick were doing in ROH. and SMW was not 40 minutes of chinlocks, it was wild bloody rasslin brawlin.

He shits himself with rage when wrestlers vocally draw attention to the fact that its fake, be it in their promos or their in-ring spots. Is he wrong?
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Nick Bockwinkel - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:20:34 EST RealDHX6 No.6285876 Reply
>>6285871
>Joey Ryan, Ryan Satin, Jordynne Grace have snitch-tagged MLW and/or beIN Sports to try to get him in trouble with his employers. How is that okay?
Who said it was?

>And when has Cornette actually tried to mess with any of these wrestlers' employment? How is him saying "I don't like what they do" the equivalent of trying to get them fired?
Who said cornette was trying to get anyone fired?
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TeflonBilly !sFcyWBVKuo - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:21:47 EST 4x5CjYUY No.6285877 Reply
>>6285855

>Mess with my money, I mess up your face.

He is literally trying to hurt people's careers for clout.
It's really a shame, cause I love hearing Jim wax about the old days. Like I'd love a show on the Network where he'd just go in deepdives in the WWE vault and give us a breakdown and recap of feuds or matches from back in the day, cause the guy really does a great job of explaining and contextualizing it.
However his constant need to denigrate modern wrestling, especially acts that are bonafide successes whether you like them or not, is obnoxious.
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hi - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:25:50 EST y2D7u7RN No.6285880 Reply
>>6285871
  1. Fuck Joey Ryan, Satin, and Grace. I don’t actually like any of them. But more power to them to make a living in wresting however they can.
  2. Joey Janela though has actually impacted the US wrestling scene significantly by finding stars and making GCW the indie hotbed over PWG right now. And they do invisible men, deathmatches, no legs, everything. There is an audience and it is working.
  3. He basically tried to destroy Mance Warner’s reputation a couple weeks ago cause he did a fucking invisible man spot lmao. Acting like he doesnt thrive and survive off of trying to destroy wrestler’s reputations is ignorant. That’s what his fanbase gets off on.
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TeflonBilly !sFcyWBVKuo - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:25:57 EST 4x5CjYUY No.6285881 Reply
>>6285857

He's still trying to recapture his old days of yelling at that poor woman at the Dairy Queen drive thru, where he was able to satisfy his two greatest hungers at once: dehumanizing a captive audience and Dairy Queen
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CRAPCOM !SNGayGTIcE - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:36:53 EST oBoI/UZ6 No.6285883 Reply
i'm not going to weigh in on whatever gimmick shit corny's pulling this week but for real fuck the people who feel the need to snitch to him on twitter whenever a gif of a comedy match/spot is posted
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:41:18 EST Qzz15cLY No.6285886 Reply
>>6285883
Its the same kind of people that send in audio clips of podcasts to Jeff Lane for Castrating the Marks.
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Caprice Coleman - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:58:15 EST bWZ+YR1t No.6285888 Reply
I backed Corny's comic Kickstarter, bought the Mid Atlantic and Straight Shootin' DVD's, a JCE Dairy Queen parody shirt, The Louisville Garden and Midnight Express books and listen to the JCE and Drive Thru shows and I'm officially sick of this shit.

I could put up with the cognitive dissonance that came with loving a lot of performers and promotions he hates as long as he stuck mostly to comfy old school wrestling talk. He never used to actively pick fights this often. At least not with people not named Vince Russo. Don't know what the fuck his problem is lately but he always used to just rant on is podcast and that's it.

And the butterface thing is really fucking low.
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hi - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 16:09:20 EST y2D7u7RN No.6285891 Reply
>>6285888
That’s the funniest thing about all of this.

He used to just be the old timey dude that didn’t get it with new stuff. I used to watch all his shoots cause he does have a vast knowledge of wrestling’s past and is well spiken.

I remember when it came out he hated Steen, Generico, and the Bucks.

I was confused, but thought he was just out of touch.

Turns out he’s just a cunt boomer.
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Hajime Ohara - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 16:21:27 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6285896 Reply
>>6285880
>He basically tried to destroy Mance Warner’s reputation a couple weeks ago
he criticized Mance because Mance did a spot he didn't like. is he not allowed to do that?
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Bill Alfonos - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 16:27:07 EST jQxPBEJ+ No.6285898 Reply
>>6285830
they're not. pretending like you want to leave on twitter is just the new move to get a new and better contract. Mascara Dorada has been doing stuff like that before it became a trend so I don't know about him but kalisto is 100% just trying to play the WWE.

I do want Dorada to get the fuck out of there though him going has been such a waste of time I still don't know why they even signed him shit pisses me off.
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Tomko - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 16:35:01 EST RsDRXIPn No.6285900 Reply
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>imagine caring what a old outdated fuck like cornette has to say anymore

It's like caring about what hogan or russo has to say and no of its good or its just their giant ego talking out of their asses
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 16:41:48 EST It2BUKqt No.6285906 Reply
>>6285875
>He shits himself with rage when wrestlers vocally draw attention to the fact that its fake, be it in their promos or their in-ring spots. Is he wrong?

On that specific point, he’s not entirely wrong. But again, he's not entirely right. Undertaker is still one of the most popular (or at least well-regarded) wrestlers alive partly because of his gimmick as a magical zombie gravedigger, which is so ridiculous on its face that it wraps back around to being amazing — especially since WWE still gets away with doing it in an era of "reality TV" wrestling.
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Mil M‡scaras - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 16:56:56 EST 0ia2DwE9 No.6285914 Reply
>>6285851
>draw attention to the fact that wrestling is fake.
but it is fake... like wrestling is so far past the "suspending disbelief for enjoyment" phase so why does any of that shit matter how "legitimate" it makes wrestling look?...its fuckin fake

also just for the record: this year The RnR have both wrestled Joey Ryan worked some "outlaw mudshows" AND down the kick out of a Canadian Destroyer spot because unlike Jim Cornette, Ricky Morton is still involved in wrestling and has seen how things have changed over the years and doesnt HAVE to do a CD but fuck it, he can so he does
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 16:59:13 EST iLikEToleARn No.6285917 Reply
>>6285916
I dont want disability because you hate disco, no matter how much you can recover to some of the super jr. Into their negativity.
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Chris Jericho - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 17:07:29 EST oMZ12zbm No.6285922 Reply
>>6285918
He played a part in Kane yes, but he was also part of a company run by Vince McMahon, so anything he wanted goes.
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Vito Thomaselli - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 17:27:09 EST U28QmYT+ No.6285925 Reply
>>6285923
I wonder if this strategy will get samuray del sol back on the indies sooner. Probably not.
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Mark Haskins - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 17:56:33 EST T5Nxpzwl No.6285929 Reply
>>6285923
>Shepard getting called out first hand by the people he makes shit up about
good
fuck this scam artist
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Jonathan Barber - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:11:01 EST 8xby20NO No.6285931 Reply
>>6285914
>wrestling is so far past the "suspending disbelief for enjoyment" phase
Maybe for you but not for me and a lot of people willing to spend money on it
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Alex Shelley - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:13:58 EST CvoCUo7K No.6285933 Reply
I honestly wish people would just stop giving Grace attention because that's the only reason she's doing it. She's a mediocre wrestler with an annoying as fuck personality who knows she can make money both by selling herself to creep weirdos and white knight orbiters simultaneously.

Plus on reflex I want to side against any group consisting of Joey Ryan, David Starr and Ryan Satin.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:33:30 EST It2BUKqt No.6285937 Reply
>>6285914
>it is fake

The point isn't that wrestling isn't fake, it's that whenever performers call attention to that fact, it shatters the suspension of disbelief. You're not supposed to go "LOL SO FAKE", you’re supposed to let yourself get caught up in the story being told (assuming the story is any good). It's like an MCU movie: Yeah, that shit is at least 60% green screen and superheroes don't exist, but if the movie reminded you of that fact every fourth scene or so, you wouldn't be able to sit back and enjoy it.

(I know someone’s gonna bring up Deadpool or something, and to that, I say this: Deadpool is written from the get-go to lean heavily on meta humor as part of its humor. Pro wrestling isn't, and probably shouldn't be, written that way.)
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Disco Inferno - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:36:15 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6285938 Reply
>>6285937
>you’re supposed to let yourself get caught up in the story being told (assuming the story is any good).
That's not true
Sometimes people just want to see movez, as much as people here get assblasted about this.
Look at the majority of Lucha Libre.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:39:58 EST It2BUKqt No.6285939 Reply
>>6285938
Which makes that the equivalent of a martial arts movie: Light on story, heavy on action. But even those don't go "HEY LOOK THIS IS ALL STAGED" every ten minutes.
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:47:36 EST t6E97uCq No.6285942 Reply
>>6285937
the question is where is the curtain drawn?

>Is Jordynne Grace saying on her social media that wrestling is a performance art breaking the fourth wall?
No it's not and Cornette is a huge hypocrite for going after her for it, seeing as he literally has a kayfabe breaking podcast himself and isn't in character on social media either.

>Is the Young Bucks saying "the chair was gimmicked" after a show to the press breaking the illusion.

Now this one is a bit more arguable, because you could definitely make the point that a post-show press conference is still where kayfabe should be maintained and that shooting takes the wind out of the sails at this immediate point.
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The People - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:48:42 EST DIKFKCIe No.6285944 Reply
>>6285937
It all, much like anything else, really depends on how it's handled and executed. Take the invisible man stuff in GCW for example. That's pretty fucking flagrantly fake, right? But then they treat it seriously, with a "serious" story, rigging the stage for serious bumps featuring the invisible man to sell that there's actually an invisible person wrestling. Some people are dumbfucks and can't figure out how to sell the fakeness of wrestling stuff without outright going "it's fake", but there are plenty of places that get how to do it properly.
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Mil M‡scaras - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 19:07:09 EST 0ia2DwE9 No.6285954 Reply
>>6285942
i'd argue that saying the chair was gimmicked was more a political thing than anything else. The type of people that read press and also make executive decisions at networks you're potentially shopping to need shit like that spelled out for them. They don't care about the illusion of the show, they care about how its going to reflect on their network
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Chris Jericho - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 19:08:30 EST oMZ12zbm No.6285956 Reply
>>6285944
Stupid shit like the invisible man is terrible no matter how "well" its presented.
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Mil M‡scaras - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 19:14:27 EST 0ia2DwE9 No.6285957 Reply
>>6285937
but, theres like 7 hours of BTS, months of cast interviews done for promotion that might discuss technical aspects of filmmaking, etc. sure in the 3 hour context of the movie going LOLITSFAKE would be dumb, but i mean the same thing applies to wrestling. And if im honest, if you can look at the context of a wrestling show then i dont see why anything could "pull you out" because anything can go in the context of the show...because its not a real thing. Warriors can appear in mirrors only hogan can see. Hardys can teleport
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Brodie Lee - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 19:31:26 EST BlrIoG3o No.6285959 Reply
>>6285938
>Sometimes people just want to see movez, Look at the majority of Lucha Libre.
watch other lucha libre beside the undercard of triplemania
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Disco Inferno - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 19:33:36 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6285960 Reply
>>6285959
I do every week on the tube
There's not a lot of storytelling in the majority of lucha, dude. Why is it so hard to accept that not everyone cares that much about MUH SERIOUS wrestling?
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Mark Briscoe - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 19:38:48 EST NbxmdHMb No.6285965 Reply
>>6285960
MUH SERIOUS WRESTLING is what works the best. AEW is doing it with Cody/Spears at the moment
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Brodie Lee - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 19:48:21 EST BlrIoG3o No.6285971 Reply
>>6285960
>Why is it so hard to accept that not everyone cares that much about MUH SERIOUS wrestling?
you can like what you want to like. it just comes off like the "play wrestling" crowd doesn't want to admit its a niche within a niche and, like it or not, the serious stuff that didn't treat it like a joke, has always been the thing that draws the biggest, most passionate crowds. US, Mexico, Japan, UK. 1950s, 1970s, 1990s. Now.

there's a reason Rush and LA Park headline Arena Mexico and not Zacarias.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 19:48:27 EST It2BUKqt No.6285972 Reply
>>6285965
>MUH SERIOUS WRESTLING is what works the best.

But that's why even WWE has (shitty) comedy acts like the 24/7 Championship: It can’t rain all the time.
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Ryuji Ito - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 19:50:22 EST sK8BwNDg No.6285973 Reply
>>6285971
>there's a reason Rush and LA Park headline Arena Mexico
Because they have charisma out the ass & are world-class amazing wrestlers that can do pretty much anything?
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Chris Jericho - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 19:52:34 EST oMZ12zbm No.6285974 Reply
>>6285971
Its weird seeing people defend bullshit this much. Everyone knows proper wrestling and proper feuds generate interest and draw money.
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Mark Briscoe - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 19:54:37 EST NbxmdHMb No.6285977 Reply
>>6285972
No one said everything has to be that. Even Crockett had Jimmy Valiant.
But is the 24/7 title drawing fans? Fuck no. YouTube views do not count.
The Hardcore title shenanigans were under Austin and Rock in legit serious feuds. They weren't doing matches with the invisible man
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Brodie Lee - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 19:56:10 EST BlrIoG3o No.6285981 Reply
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>>6285973
if they can do pretty much anything, how come they never go on twitter and call it "performance art"? how come they never record a podcast a week after the match and talk about how they put it all together?

how come brock lesnar, who makes more money than anyone in wrestling, never goes out of his way to publicly talk about his "performance art"?

how come undertaker maintained mystique for 25 years and people were saying he was shattering it as soon as he got on instagram?

I could have sworn all these people were flipping their shit during the road to Wrestlemania when Ronda Rousey put out that "its all fake" video because it was messing up the feud with Becky and Charlotte.

It really feels like some smarks are so butthurt that Cornette said something about mean about a personal favorite and now they want to die on the most illogical hill instead of concede that he had a point.
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Mikey - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:02:43 EST sK8BwNDg No.6285985 Reply
>>6285981
Because some wrestlers decide to keep in character. And tbh, even if Rush & L.A. Park did decide to go on twitter to talk about their performance art, it wouldn't change the fact that they're world-class wrestlers with more charisma than most rosters.

> people were saying he was shattering it as soon as he got on instagram?
People were saying Taker was ruining his legacy long before he ever got a social media account. Hell, people were saying it as soon as he started doing feuds after the WM streak ended & he was getting less mobile with each match.

>I could have sworn all these people were flipping their shit during the road to Wrestlemania when Ronda Rousey put out that "its all fake" video because it was messing up the feud with Becky and Charlotte
Yes, because Ronda was saying that shit in kayfabe during a promo that was supposed to build a match. Nobody is saying shouting "IT'S ALL FAKE" in the middle of a show is okay, otherwise there'd be more defenses for Vince Russo's worked shoot nonsense in WCW/TNA.
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Arnold Skaaland - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:05:51 EST BlrIoG3o No.6285988 Reply
>>6285985
>Nobody is saying shouting "IT'S ALL FAKE" in the middle of a show is okay
what is the Invisible Man then?
how does it help the Cody-spears feud for the Young Bucks to tell everyone IN A PRESS CONFERENCE that the steel chair was a prop?

>Because some wrestlers decide to keep in character.
haveya noticed that the ones that decide to do this tend to draw the most interest and money?
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Mikey - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:11:37 EST sK8BwNDg No.6285991 Reply
>>6285988
>what is the Invisible Man then?
Dumb bullshit GCW thought was funny?

>how does it help the Cody-spears feud for the Young Bucks to tell everyone IN A PRESS CONFERENCE that the steel chair was a prop?
It don't because it was retarded to say it.

>haveya noticed that the ones that decide to do this tend to draw the most interest and money?
Guys like Rush, L.A. Park & Brock Lesnar draw interest & money because they are phenomenal wrestlers, not because of what they do or don't tweet.
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Fritz Von Erich - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:17:29 EST 0ia2DwE9 No.6285994 Reply
>>6285991
>Dumb bullshit GCW thought was funny?
screw you guys GCW booked Janela and Invisible Man vs Kikutaro and Invisible Stan and im hype as fuck fror it
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Mikey - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:19:50 EST sK8BwNDg No.6285996 Reply
>>6285994
Hey, I never said I hated it. But it is dumb shit GCW thought would be funny.

That being said, I hope the people bitching & moaning about GCW having an Invisible Man had this same level of energy when DDT's Ladder all those years ago.
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Mikey - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:22:41 EST sK8BwNDg No.6285997 Reply
>>6285996
Meant to add: And I surely hope these people were just as pissed over all the people in DDT that sold for Yoshihiko, too.
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Arnold Skaaland - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:23:31 EST BlrIoG3o No.6285998 Reply
>>6285991
>Guys like Rush, L.A. Park & Brock Lesnar draw interest & money because they are phenomenal wrestlers, not because of what they do or don't tweet.
its more than just twitter: they don't sell for "funny" spots, they don't do interviews about how they're going to have "the best match," they don't talk about how their feelings were hurt if someone says something critical about them, they don't do tribute spots from video games, they don't snitch tag a corporate social media accounts to get someone fired, they don't call themselves an "actor" or "performance artist"

they are phenomenal wrestlers because they never stop taking it seriously. they never let anything crack the facade of larger than life pro wrestler.

in other words, they don't do any of the things that drive Cornette bonkers
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Arnold Skaaland - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:27:16 EST BlrIoG3o No.6286001 Reply
>>6285997
i don't hate the Invisible Man either. I like weird goofy shit: i still love chikara, have seen them and Kaju big battel live a bunch of times, hoodslam looks like a fun time.

its all in the execution. and tbh, most of the execution for goofy shit in wrestling is not good.

in fact, i'd say that janela's first matches with the invisible man were kinda eh because his timing was rough and his spots were sloppy.

Whereas, Bryce Remsburg is a fucking comedic genius and Invisible Man vs Invisible Stan could have been a groan-fest but he totally elevated the concept and its a fitting spotlight for one of the most under appreciated talents on the indies.

TBH, i'm not even sure Janela and Kikutaro will be able to top Bryce for the upcoming tag. Joey seems really gotten to about Cornette and sometimes his shit looks rough if his head is not 100% in it.
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Mikey - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:35:24 EST sK8BwNDg No.6286003 Reply
>>6285998
It helps their gimmick but quite frankly, Park & Rush are the kind of talents that they could probably make some dumb bullshit actually work.

>>6286001
>its all in the execution. and tbh, most of the execution for goofy shit in wrestling is not good.
I mostly put that down on some guys just not having very good comedic timing. I mean, Stalker Ichikawa, Kikutaro, Ryo Saito, The Florida Brothers, most DDT comedy gimmicks, etc. work because those guys know how to get the most out of the spots they're doing. That's why it didn't affect Kensuke Sasaki when he became a Florida Brother & was doing invisible box spots with Magnum TOKYO, because they knew how to pull it off. Some guys don't & it usually makes the comedy matches utter shit in the process.
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Matt Jackson - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:40:51 EST L932pcP3 No.6286010 Reply
>>6286001

>Whereas, Bryce Remsburg is a fucking comedic genius and Invisible Man vs Invisible Stan could have been a groan-fest but he totally elevated the concept and its a fitting spotlight for one of the most under appreciated talents on the indies.

The thing I loved about this match is that it was a celebration of the wrestling tropes fans all know and chant or react to in most wrestling organizations. A match between two invisible men couldn't take place in UFC or boxing or any other combat sport or even most real sports. Bryce's selling and the fan reactions were what made that match work and it's one of those unique things about wrestling that I love. It was just really brilliant how creatively yet simply it was executed.
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Fritz Von Erich - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:57:49 EST 0ia2DwE9 No.6286019 Reply
>>6285996
this is wrestling. my favorite fed is $5 Wrestling. im here for corny shit. honestly im biggest issue with cornette that no one ever seems to talk about is he's just a fuckin bully and i hate bullies, ya know. he talks a lot of vile shit then when hes confronted he cowers or talks about how he'd go get a weapon and fuck someone up. i can't stand that shit
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Kama Mustafa - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 21:06:37 EST L4YJHN0X No.6286024 Reply
>>6286019
This is definitely the worst part of Cornette. He's a fucking coward.

People need to stop validating his senile outbursts and giving the bitter old cunt attention.
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Hikaru Shida - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 21:38:13 EST oMZ12zbm No.6286037 Reply
>>6286024

Corny is still working marks like you with his chickenshit heel ways.
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Timothy Well - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 21:46:55 EST b7NZg4wN No.6286042 Reply
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>>6286024
Jim has been definitely been focused on just outright insulting people nowadays rather than actually having a conversation like he used to. He can actually back up a lot of his points when he feels like it, but then he just devolves into name-calling and going through the tired play rassler and mud show shtick.
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Arnold Skaaland - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 21:51:16 EST BlrIoG3o No.6286045 Reply
>>6286040
>>6286037
Jim is working everyone. read his tweets today to Jordynne Grace & outraged women: they're literally the same shit he said for decades on the mic.

Jim definitely hates wrestling but he's not so stupid and spiteful to turn down money. Whether they like it or not, he is the Young Bucks' greatest rival and the fact that Matt tweeted last week that he would rather "burn money" than work with Cornette shows how much of a non-locker room leader he is. The fact that Cornette privately approached the YBs and Omega and said they could make money together proves that he isn't really going to let these rants control his life.

Last month when the spot happened with Sami Callihan spitting water on him at MLW happened, the report was Cornette approached Sami backstage and put him over. Court thought they were going to have a blow up but Jim was happy with the spot. Even though he still thinks Sami is a little shit for breaking Eddie Edwards' face.
He just wants that HEAT. He spent 30 years swatting at dumb rednecks who hopped the rails. He had to carry a gun with him in the territory days (and probably still does). He just loves being in the center of that heat and he keeps baiting all these modern wrestlers to take the bait, create some heat and potentially draw money together.

And most of them would rather just snitch-tag MLW. No wonder he rolls his eyes in disgust.

It reminds me of Tough Enough 2011. When Steve Austin eliminated Matt Cross. He kept laying into Cross, telling him he needed to see fire and saying he didn't Matt had it. and Matt's response was ... "Permission to speak, sir?" Austin FLIPPED OUT. These old school guys know how to turn it on and off at a moment's notice, and turn up the volume without hesitation. So many modern guys are too focused on athletic choreography and forgot how to trash talk and get 5,000 people to go "OHHHHHHH"
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Kama Mustafa - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 21:53:16 EST L4YJHN0X No.6286046 Reply
>>6286037
He's making no money off me. All I see is another dipshit boomer with an overloud voice.

>>6286045
yeah can you stop licking his Corny-hole already
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Fritz Von Erich - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 21:54:49 EST 0ia2DwE9 No.6286047 Reply
>>6286037
thats not "working" if it was working both parties would be in on it. jim bullies people he has no involvement with. he's certainly not working me because im not paying him any money, although id shell out a few bucks to watch him get dragged down a dark alley and beaten like the punk bitch he is
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Arnold Skaaland - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 21:55:03 EST BlrIoG3o No.6286048 Reply
>>6286045
just wanna add: it's really seeming like Cornette has the same energy as Vince McMahon. He wants someone to stand up to him.
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Arnold Skaaland - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 21:56:09 EST BlrIoG3o No.6286050 Reply
>>6286047
> im not paying him any money, although id shell out a few bucks to watch him get dragged beaten
lol thats literally getting worked by the heel
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Becky Bayless - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 21:57:58 EST CvoCUo7K No.6286051 Reply
>>6285997
Yoshihiko works because it's not done with everyone winking at the camera. The announcers, the crowd and the wrestlers play it all completely straight and treat Yoshihiko like they would another wrestler.
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Arnold Skaaland - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 22:05:51 EST BlrIoG3o No.6286055 Reply
>>6286052
yeah man, you don't make it to top of wrestling or any entertainment field without being an asshole. you have to be cutthroat, look out for number 1, say what no one else is willing to say.

Literally every headliner was an alpha asshole in some way.
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Mikey - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 22:10:06 EST sK8BwNDg No.6286061 Reply
>>6286055
The difference with Jim being that none of the people he's "getting heat on" is interested in giving him work in any of the feds they work by doing an angle with him.

You can call it "being gotten to" all you want (& in some cases, it'd be fair to say) but when you're shittalking someone over & over in an attempt to get an angle going with anyone who would listen, it can make him look desperate for attention. Especially when you are someone who never had much interest in working with Cornette.
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Kama Mustafa - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 22:14:40 EST L4YJHN0X No.6286065 Reply
>>6286055
Mick Foley pulled it off.

>alpha asshole

fuck off, Cornette is just a dipshit. He's not even a performer anymore.
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A.J. Lee - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 22:18:36 EST z0bPliZN No.6286067 Reply
I just find it all funny since Corny is a bleeding heart booker except when you fuck with his business.
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Arnold Skaaland - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 22:25:17 EST BlrIoG3o No.6286071 Reply
>>6286061
i get this. but i do want to say there are very easy lay-up just sitting there.

Cornette managing MJF against Joey Janela, for example, is a lay-up. Janela & MJF have already done the feud in CZW and MLW. Joey doesn't have Penelope anymore, so there needs to be another hook. Cornette being a stumper for MJF would get the AEW crowd so heated. And it would get them to rally around Joey that much harder.

What's been lost in all of this is that Jim has not lost a step as a performer. Watch his stuff in MLW or the NWA. He still knows how to work a mic, he still knows how to sell all the details. It just feels like the resentment from the Bucks/Omega/Steen/Zayn/Cabana crew stemming from ROH has snowballed over the last decade.

If Vince is willing work with guys who have sued him and/or tried to put him out of business because he sees dollar signs, then the AEW VPs could learn a thing or too.
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Drew Gulak - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 22:41:44 EST fbMyLrlk No.6286079 Reply
>>6286071

The current crop of wrestlers are too into their emotions to put their differences aside to make good money.
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The Rock - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 22:46:10 EST T5Nxpzwl No.6286081 Reply
>>6286045
>Whether they like it or not, he is the Young Bucks' greatest rival
Of all the dumb shit you've ever written on this board, this is by the far the worst.
You are such a Cornette sycophant it is pathetic and laughable.
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Kama Mustafa - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 22:49:32 EST L4YJHN0X No.6286084 Reply
>>6286079
>>6286071
Have you considered maybe they just don't to work with a known asshole who's been a locker room cancer for nearly 2 decades?

>learn a thing or too

you absolute dullard
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Acid Jaz - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 22:57:15 EST WqSN7Cvz No.6286087 Reply
>>6286084

Vince has work with people who have done a lot worse to him than being a dick to him on the internet. People never reach the top of the mountain without dealing with their share of assholes.
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Arnold Skaaland - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 22:58:09 EST BlrIoG3o No.6286089 Reply
>>6286080
well jordynne grace, ryan satin and david starr all signal boosted his stuff today. and his audience knows he's going to podcast about it next week. and there will be some people who hate-listen to hear what he says.
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Lacey - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 00:03:23 EST 9P2jdKq5 No.6286119 Reply
Sooner, Jim is gonna lose all his connection to wrestling and will have to rely on doing podcasts with guys like Tonka Saw, Ian Miles Cheong, Mr. Metokur, MundaneMatt, or Andy Warski
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Anthony Nese - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 00:15:44 EST gh69CKgg No.6286124 Reply
>>6285732
Biff's in-ring character is "no gimmicks needed" style ass-kicker. Dude's as far from that Corny quote as possible, even with him doing an early 2000s meme blog posting gimmick on Twitter.
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Kama Mustafa - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 00:55:16 EST L4YJHN0X No.6286141 Reply
>>6285762
>Corny-hole slurper attempting to discuss financials

Stay in your lane.

Eternal reminder that PPV companies were stiffing ECW on pay towards its end. The boys couldn't have gotten paid regardless of how much Paul wanted to.
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 00:55:20 EST iLikEToleARn No.6286142 Reply
>>6286141
>bigger boys don't want blacks to have there been a fantasy you one of the show live every week soon and even got the motion look natural and force jericho's making it a couple hundred dollars just to do.
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Trevor Murdoch - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 02:19:18 EST urWzTFIR No.6286156 Reply
>>6286053
Amazing how people dont get Memphis "comedy" wrestling. It wasn't comedy wrestling for sake of comedy. It was serious wrestling whit credible people, mostly heels. That got caught in comedy segment, it was either start or end of feud. Also wrestlers sold it like it was no fun, but serious business all the way.

Also is bobby heenan comedy wrestler? Or is he serious wrestler and manager that ended in some humiliating comedy segments?
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Trevor Murdoch - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 03:15:36 EST urWzTFIR No.6286163 Reply
>>6285824
Lot of people are. Dave has cashed out lot of credibility by defending guys that maybe he shouldn't have. He is too close and too friendly whit aew, and its clouding his judgment.
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The Great Khali - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 03:42:50 EST MTODXA+O No.6286164 Reply
Idk, anyone who works /woo/ into a seethe is ok in my book.
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Trevor Murdoch - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 04:26:12 EST urWzTFIR No.6286171 Reply
>>6286167
Nobody is paying to dave. But it's not secret that dave has close relationship whit aew. Some times relationship like that can be detrimental for journalist. Combine that whit Dave's obsession to argue whit every geek in Twitter, no matter how idiotic they are or how stupid argument is. You tend to get situation like these, where dave just end up upsetting older generations or fans of old time wrestling.
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Tony Mamaluke - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 04:33:10 EST HBLWC/LC No.6286173 Reply
>>6286171
Metlz dunks on idiots for having stupid takes everyday.

>has close relationship whit

He was also bros with Dwayne. Remember when Rock got awarded 5 smarks regularly?
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Tony Mamaluke - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 08:21:22 EST HBLWC/LC No.6286185 Reply
>>6286181
I think he's dissing fat white CHUDs for being afraid of the black man
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CM Punk - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 08:38:36 EST Cb5Fwhhg No.6286186 Reply
lack of image replies make this thread a dreadful scroll
you’ve all failed me for the last time dammit
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Verne Gagne - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 09:37:14 EST U28QmYT+ No.6286206 Reply
>>6286198
Is it better for triple h to be shown flexing his muscles on the box, or to actually swing a hammer like a normal human being?

Dude has no leverage swinging a hammer like that. No wonder Warrior has no problems blocking it with a spear shaft.
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Blue Demon - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 10:16:33 EST sWy8jpny No.6286230 Reply
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>>6286206
Just as long as you don't show him in a prone or vulnerable position.

Looks good, but needs more ORKO OUT OF NOWHERE.
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Austin Aries - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 10:51:13 EST E1+Xybxh No.6286247 Reply
>>6286198
Haitch and particularly Warrior are a good fit for the He-Man universe
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Texas Tornado - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 13:44:34 EST DGump8zG No.6286320 Reply
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>>6280775
Who needs him? He wasn't there to teach me how to shoot my first promo, but I learned - and I got pretty good at it too. Got through my first show date without him. I learned how to drive. I learned how to shave. How to fight. I had 14 great birthdays without him. He never even sent me a damn card. To hell with him! I didn't need him then and I don't need him now. You know what, /woo/? I'm gonna get through college without him. I'll get a great job without him. I'll marry a beautiful honey, have a bunch of kids and be a better father than he ever was. I don't need him for that just like I didn’t need him for anything else because there ain't a thing he could ever teach me about how to love my fans. How come he don't want me, man?
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Big John Gaburik - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 18:15:17 EST mnBSn12q No.6286404 Reply
>>6286356
Ummmm, I thought AEW was inclusive? How is enabling this ableist pig ok for Kenny and the Bucks.
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Harlem Bravado - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 18:37:16 EST Ue4rbUhC No.6286414 Reply
>>6286404
>Implying any MJF fan wouldn't want him flipping them off in a picture.

Calm down there, sparky.
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Arnold Skaaland - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 18:56:25 EST BlrIoG3o No.6286419 Reply
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tonight on twitch
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Mike Bennett - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 23:12:56 EST tdcLSB2c No.6286543 Reply
>>6286423
Yo when did TJP become wrestling’s R.Kelly? There’s a bunch of people alluding to him hanging out with Highschoolers
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P.N. News - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 00:12:43 EST ZaJrlGya No.6286569 Reply
>>6285981
God, how does Steph not have imposter syndrome, the idea anyone would want to learn from her when the only real lesson she has to teach re: success is "be the boss's daughter"
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Hernandez - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 00:25:53 EST v+E41uU7 No.6286573 Reply
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>>6286537
>another indy shitter playing revolutionary rebel
Take me back
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Chris Hero - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 04:02:26 EST mOZ1j4+U No.6286601 Reply
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>>6286537
There is literally no reason to do this except if you want to do it for legal reasons like how Hulk Hogan was separated from Terry Bollea in the Gawker trial. Wrestlers are so limited they wouldn't even make community theatre.
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Mean Smark Callous !DCxC2Z8fnY - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 06:11:22 EST mHVC6D8M No.6286628 Reply
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Not sure if clean shaven Rusev should appear on TV.
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Player Dos - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 07:07:56 EST 1kyZqMut No.6286638 Reply
>>6286628
Which AAA midcard rudo is this and what has he got to do with Rusev?
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Jack Evans - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 09:20:32 EST RsDRXIPn No.6286680 Reply
>>6286549
I hope this trend keeps up so that half of /woo/ and Corny will end up having a fatal heartattack due to all the pant shitting rage and will finally give us some peace and quiet in the world.
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Rico - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 09:32:02 EST U28QmYT+ No.6286683 Reply
>>6286537
This doesn't even make sense. His Twitter handle isn't even a gimmicked real name (like Zack Ryder or Jordynne Grace), it's just a nick name.
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 10:07:49 EST k8OMTxql No.6286697 Reply
>>6286537
Page is becoming one of my favourite wrestlers. Imagine getting butthurt about this
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Mick Foley - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 10:21:49 EST ExfNZgAT No.6286702 Reply
>>6286697
I tend to like wrestlers based on their wrestling ability, but that's just me.
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 11:06:07 EST k8OMTxql No.6286713 Reply
>>6286702
protip: the personality of a wrestlers means you are more invested in their matches and thus the quality of matches improves.
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Sami Callihan - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 11:10:15 EST 4gw1zwR1 No.6286715 Reply
>>6286081
As an outside observer who doesn't follow Cornette or the Bucks, I can say this. Cornette is literally the ONLY rival to the Bucks I know of. Maybe their fans could name more, but Cornette is the only person everyone else actually hears about.
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Bruiser Brody - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 11:19:34 EST HBLWC/LC No.6286716 Reply
>>6286715
>I don't know shit about something I know nothing about

OK. Why did you feel the need to share this?
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Mr. Aguila - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 11:21:32 EST BlrIoG3o No.6286717 Reply
>>6286716
>I don't know shit about something I know nothing about

thats not what he said at all.
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Mick Foley - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 11:24:24 EST ExfNZgAT No.6286721 Reply
>>6286713
PROTIP: If you like your friend's matches because you like your friend personally, that's not a function of match quality.

Also, if your personality is based on your Twitter name, you're already working with a personality deficit.

>>6286715
>No one has heard of the Lucha Bros.
How outside of wrestling are you?
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 11:26:28 EST k8OMTxql No.6286722 Reply
>>6286721
He made a joke based on everyone getting worked up about kayfabe names. chill out.

>No one has heard of the Lucha Bros.

The Bucks and the Lucha Bros have had a lot of matches, but do they actually have a rivalry? What's the storyline?
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Mr. Aguila - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 11:30:06 EST BlrIoG3o No.6286724 Reply
>>6286721
>the Lucha Bros
how in the bubble are you? there's more to a rivalry than just "a lot of athletic matches"
There's barely any story or heat to the LB vs YB feud. Even the AAA titles feel like an afterthought. Where are the promos? Where's the anger? Where's the animosity? Where's the heat?
What has that feud accomplished for you, for you to consider it their greatest rivalry?

The last time the Bucks had an actual grudge feud was with the MCMG in TNA back in, like, 2010. The thing last year with the Golden Lovers wasn't bad but it had a weird ending.
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Sami Callihan - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 11:31:33 EST 4gw1zwR1 No.6286725 Reply
>>6286721
Nobody fucking talks about the Lucha Bros matches. Conversely, nobody shuts the fuck up about Cornette.
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Mr. Aguila - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 11:33:20 EST BlrIoG3o No.6286728 Reply
>>6286726
all of the biggest, most famous, highest grossing ones in history were.
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Bruiser Brody - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 11:35:23 EST HBLWC/LC No.6286729 Reply
>>6286725
>nobody shuts the fuck up about Cornette

This is accurate. People who incessantly parrot an irrelevant, washed-up boomer are nobodies.
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Nicky - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 11:37:17 EST w0ns21FU No.6286731 Reply
>>6286728
Yes, but in order to balance those out, you have to one that are not as serious to lighten the mood. That's why we hav