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!lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 22:18:56 EST NUuS/dap No.6284104
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Continuing from last thread >>6251924

This thread is for general discussion of AEW, Impact, MLW and ROH, which are four major non-WWE promotions in the US and Canada that have both national television and PPV deals each with large financial backing. NWA to be included in future once TV deal is confirmed.

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>ROH Wrestling airs on Thursdays at 8pm EDT / 1am BST in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Fridays at 3:10pm EDT / 8:10pm BST in /wooo/tube.
>Impact! airs on Fridays at 10pm EDT / 3am BST in /wooo/tube and /wooo/alt. Replays air on Saturdays at 2:30pm EDT / 7:30pm BST in /wooo/tube.
>AEW Live Specials/PPVs, Impact Plus/Twitch/PPV events, MLW Live Specials/PPVs, and ROH TV Taping/On Tour/PPV events will be shown when scheduled in the tubes.

>All Elite Wrestling


>Impact Wrestling


>Major League Wrestling


>Ring of Honor


This post was edited by C_Higgy on 14-08-2019 22:20:13
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 22:25:08 EST NUuS/dap No.6284105 Reply
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Matches made for Friday's Impact TV taping.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 22:25:54 EST NUuS/dap No.6284106 Reply
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Also ROH's annual Champions vs. All Stars match is signed for their next TV taping.
CM Punk - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 22:55:55 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6284112 Reply
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Posted this in the non-bumping thread but holy shit I could not be more excited to be going to the Temple show
The People - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 04:30:27 EST DIKFKCIe No.6284180 Reply
This is the most "the state of your fucking roster" match possible. Rush deserves better than this.
Domino - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 09:08:21 EST b6Ee22oP No.6284220 Reply
Shouldn't AEW have it's own thread?
Ernesto Osiris - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 09:54:26 EST WuGJ2oLB No.6284238 Reply
It doesn't need its own containment thread. It's not going to be big enough to need its own thread, it's just a weekly TV show, occasional weekend house shows and PPVs.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 10:48:56 EST w1UkaoS1 No.6284258 Reply
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More matches signed for ROH's next two shows including the TV title match with Shane Taylor defending against the winner of the three way match.
Dude Love - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 10:55:33 EST z54f/jWb No.6284261 Reply

Has Vinny Marseglia evolved from discount Jeff Hardy and diet Randy Orton to bargain bin Bray Wyatt?
Bo Rotundo - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 11:02:27 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6284267 Reply
TNA used florida trash not Boston trash. it was more redneck-y than just boring.
Bo Rotundo - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 11:06:07 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6284269 Reply
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ROH needs to swallow their pride and run smaller buildings
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:39:14 EST w1UkaoS1 No.6284298 Reply
Yeah Dr. Tom has a good mind for the business and helping to train and work with wrestlers. It's a good get for MLW.
Bo Rotundo - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:51:21 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6284360 Reply
> AAA’s been promoting the Impact shows on social media but no one from AAA is currently advertised for tonight’s show. Dr. Wagner Jr. is announced for tomorrow’s show. The Wrestling Observer Newsletter says Golden Magic, Nino Hamburguesa, and Taurus are scheduled for the shows, though Hijo del Vikingo is not because he’s got another booking. Nino Hamburguesa and Hijo del Vikingo are booked on the same shows on Thursday & Friday.

>I suspect Hijo del Vikingo’s other booking might not be a literal booking the same day, but that he’s booked to make his next TV appearance in AEW (whenever that can be worked out), and not in Impact.
Nicky - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 17:47:06 EST 2FsU4OSk No.6284390 Reply
So...usual business then? They usually have a handful of AAA guys compete on Impact every time they go there. It's actually a pretty big deal that Dr.WagnerJr is set to appear.
The Rock - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 19:12:22 EST GXHNtkkw No.6284450 Reply
does Dr Wagner jr / Rey Wagner have any USA tv appearances previous to this? Seems like he should have floated through one of the MLWs for a minute or something
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 19:42:13 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6284460 Reply
Yeah they were on MLW Fusion a few weeks ago and faced Los Parks.
Shark GIrl (Male) - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 20:26:47 EST sBJ6SVWI No.6284478 Reply
Question. I'm finally watching Double or Nothing, and I wanted to DL other shows to catch up. Is it just that and Fight for the Fallen that I need to look for?
Jack Swagger - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 22:19:08 EST bHSb/fhc No.6284522 Reply
Cody vs Spears is getting way more promo than any other All Out match. The bias is showing.
Michael Kovac - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 09:40:57 EST BlrIoG3o No.6284637 Reply
luchablog gathered results from mexican twitter for "quick and possibly accurate Impact results from 08/15 Mexico City"
>(probably missing stuff)

>Eddie Edwards defeated maybe Cousin Jake

>Jordynne Grace & Rosemary beat Faby Apache & Vanilla

>Moose beat Fallah Bah

>Su Yung beat Havok

>Nino Hamburguesa & Big Mami beat Raj Singh & Rohit Raju
>the Deaners got involved.

>(a in-ring segment with Cage & Melissa Santos took place)

>Taya beat Alisha Edwards

>Michael Elgin beat Rhyno in a street fight

>Rich Swann & Willie Mack beat Dez & Wentz

>Rob Van Dam beat Mad Man Fulton

>Golden Magic beat Taurus, Trey, TJP

>Josh Alexander & Ethan Page beat LAX to keep the tag titles

>LAX apparently put their Impact careers on the line and lost

>Jake Crist & Dave Crist beat Tommy Dreamer & Tessa Blanchard in a street fight

>Sami Callihan & Fulton may have gotten involved; Rhyno & RVD made the save.

>(a scheduled Tenille Dashwood/Keira Hogan match doesn't appear to have happened, or at least isn't mentioned.)
Ray Mendoza - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 11:28:06 EST GXHNtkkw No.6284668 Reply
for all the effort of hauling the operations down to Mexico to dodge arranging work visas you'd assume that they'd use more of the Mexico-unique talent on the tapings
Brian Kendrick - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 11:40:54 EST BxsoGG2K No.6284671 Reply
I really can't stand any joshi wrestlers who basically act like children with all the cutesy bullshit like Riho and Yuka Sakazaki. Hikaru Shida is my girl and she should be your girl too.
Michael Kovac - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 11:42:51 EST BlrIoG3o No.6284674 Reply
they only have so much tv time and they still have a decent sized roster. giving a spot to a aaa talent is taking a spot from an impact talent. also according to luchablog, it sounds like some people are earmarked for aew tv.
Yoshi Tatsu - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 11:44:37 EST 4rhXNZUw No.6284678 Reply
Good luck to AEW fans trying to get tickets in Philly or Boston in about 15 min
Jon Bolen - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 11:54:09 EST 2FsU4OSk No.6284679 Reply
they are having another event tonight and the thursday show had 6 AAA talents on it. Tonight has dr wagner jr appearing. They have also been going to Mexico more often and it builds a fan base their that other american/canadian promotions dont do. Going to Mexico is a smart move.
Latin Lover - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 12:34:08 EST MoJOxhmS No.6284695 Reply
I got meh seats in Philly (204). Not hard camera top ring but there were only a few 2/3 seats and a handful singles left at 12:15. Looks like it's gonna sell out

Just happy to have a ticket
Brian Kendrick - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 13:13:23 EST BxsoGG2K No.6284710 Reply
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Both shows in under an hour.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 13:31:36 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6284722 Reply
If they keep selling out these midsize 10,000 seat college basketball arenas, I think they could easily sell out bigger venues in the future once their TV show gets going.
Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 13:48:45 EST Zr7ATTLc No.6284728 Reply
What's good about these sellouts is A) They build momentum and buzz but also B) By the time they get to TV, they'll have the time to start promoting the upcoming shows that haven't sold out and give them the attention they need, rather than having to shill for shows coming up in only 1 or 2 weeks from the air date
Apolo - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:04:43 EST oMZ12zbm No.6284733 Reply
Well that's the big test for them. They can sustain this streak with weekly TV? All the buzz and hype will die out eventually, but the new car smell and excitement for most fans hasn't worn off yet.
Octagón - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:24:27 EST BLsuG4IT No.6284739 Reply
AEW's playing it tremendously well for a new promotion. It seems they've formed the right strategies to win. The company was created in January, and their first LIVE TV show would be in October -- a span of 10 months. 10 long months. 10 months where they needed to maintain the hype. I think they were successful in that. They're doing a great job. I agree, the giant test for them is keeping the momentum each and every week. ALL OUT needs to deliver on a huge scale. It needs to be massive. This is their LAST "PPV", their last show before going on weekly, LIVE, TV. I really hope it's awesome.
Shark GIrl (Male) - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:59:53 EST sBJ6SVWI No.6284746 Reply
I'm not so sure. They'll hit the big markets for sure. But can they fill up a venue in say, Indianapolis or Phoenix?
Nicky - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:15:14 EST WNuZWFf6 No.6284748 Reply
>can they sell out All In?
>can they sell out DoN?
>yeah but they won’t do good attendance for Fyter or FFTF
>ok but just wait until they start TV and need to do it every week instead of relying on fly-ins

Sooner or later people have got to accept attendance is not going to be an issue for AEW unless they get cocky and try to run something like Soldier Field. It was never going to be.
The real test for them isn’t whether they can put butts in these seats, it’s whether they can put butts in front of TVs
Lita - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:48:23 EST d1obD4PJ No.6284767 Reply
Really says a lot about their women's division when Riho is a potential contender for the title.
Captain Lou Albano - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:09:57 EST SX9x/kr3 No.6284806 Reply
the panic and tears and diaper shitting that has accompanied the constant moving of the goalposts on every AEW event weekend is the greatest entertainment of those weekends. Just meltdowns and crying everywhere. It's amazing. and amazing.
Joe E. Legend - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:56:04 EST dYhrmb6W No.6284831 Reply
Honest question, DID Fyter Fest or Fight for the Fallen have good attendance? I don't remember hearing much about the attendance figures on those shows. I remember one was selling tickets faster than whatever random C-PPV WWE was doing at the time, but that's nothing.
Brian Kendrick - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 18:01:19 EST BxsoGG2K No.6284833 Reply
Both were considered "b shows", neither sold out but had good attendance
Michael Kovac - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 18:19:23 EST BlrIoG3o No.6284844 Reply
i'm not sure the exact size but they were running in 5K seaters, nothing like MSG or the Sears Center
Skip Sheffield - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 12:47:46 EST BlrIoG3o No.6285070 Reply
LOT of news coming out of Impact in Mexico:
>Impact Wrestling TV tapings from Mexico City, Mexico on 8/15/19:
>Eddie Edwards beat Jake Something/”Big Nasty” Cousin Jake.
>Jordynne Grace and Rosemary beat Faby Apache and Vanilla Vargas.
>Moose beat Fallah Bahh.
>Su Yung beat Jessicka Havok.
>Nino Hamburguesa and Big Mami beat The Desi Hit Squad.
>Taya Valkyrie beat Alisha Edwards.
>Michael Elgin beat Rhino in a Street Fight which was a big brawl. They used chairs and a table among the weapons.
>Willie Mack and Rich Swann beat The Rascalz.
>RVD beat Mad Man Fulton.
>Golden Magic won a 4-Way over Trey Miguel, Taurus, and T.J. Perkins.
>Tag Team Champions The North beat LAX.
>Dave and Jake Crist beat Tommy Dreamer and Tessa Blanchard in a Street Fight with help from Sami Callihan and Mad Mad Fulton. RVD and Rhino came out to even things up after. Tessa, Dreamer, RVD, and Rhino vs. Callihan, Fulton, and OVE was advertised for tomorrow night.

>Impact Wrestling TV taping results from Mexico City, Mexico on 8/16/19:
>Moose beat Cousin Jake.
>Faby Apache beat Alisha Edwards.
>Tessa Blanchard, Tommy Dreamer, RVD, and Rhino beat Sami Callihan, Jake Crist, Dave Crist, and Mad Man Fulton.
>Willie Mack and Rich Swann beat LAX. The locker room came out and there was a send off celebration for LAX after the match.
>Knockouts Champion Taya Valkyrie beat Big Mami. After the match Tenille Dashwood ran in and went after Valkyrie and John E. Bravo.
>Michael Elgin beat Dinastia.
>Jessicka Havok beat Su Yung in a No DQ Match.
>Mahabali Shera beat Cody Deaner.
>Ace Austin beat Eddie Edwards by DQ when Edwards used a chair.
>Jordynne Grace and Chik Tormenta vs. Keira Hogan and Vanilla Vargas turned into a 6-man tag team match when Madison Rayne and Rosemary got involved. Rosemary, Jordynne Grace, and Chik Tormenta beat Madison Rayne, Keira Hogan, and Vanilla Vargas after Rayne and Hogan walked out of the match leaving Vargas alone.
>Zachary Wentz, Dezmond Xavier, and Trey Miguel beat Australian Suicide, Toxin, and Arez.
>TJP beat Golden Magic.
>Dr. Wagner Jr. beat Texano Jr.

>LAX finished up with the company last night and heading elsewhere. Their contracts are officially up 8/31. There's been interest in them from everyone.
>Michael Elgin vs. Naomichi Marufuji is set for the October Bound for Glory PPV.
>Dr. Wagner Jr. is working the Bound for Glory PPV as well. There will be other AAA talent set for that show.
Virgil - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 13:32:25 EST +LOXS8qP No.6285082 Reply
sad to see LAX go. I can't think of any other tag team that surpassed the originals. A rare case of a new team cementing their own legacy and exceeding all expectations. Hopefully they end up in AEW. I don't wanna see these guys become just another team in WWE. I do wonder how other companies will portray them though. They're comfortable without Konnan, but LAX without Konnan completely is a weird one
Skip Sheffield - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 13:37:11 EST BlrIoG3o No.6285085 Reply
I don't think they're taking the LAX Gimmick to AEW. If Anthem gave the trademark to that gimmick to ayone, they gave it to Konnan. If anything, they just become EYFBO again. They wrestled as EYFBO at the HOG show last weekend when the Bucks fought Private Party.
Antonio Honda - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 14:38:00 EST 03MGVs+U No.6285112 Reply
Shera is back. Why? does he relatives at Sony Six? If Impact want the Hindustani crowd then why aren't then signing my man Rakesh Kumar Orton?

Elgin vs Marafuji. I haven't been paying attention to NOAH. Can Marafuji still go? Sure it will be better than Elgin Rhino at BFG. Part of me wishes that Impact would get someone like Kenoh in for a shot too.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 16:59:08 EST hLEaL/rE No.6285140 Reply
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Matt Taven's next ROH World Championship defense will be against Volador Jr. at Global Wars Espectacular in Chicago. Also here's the latest news from the latest edition of Eck's Files:

>Final Battle will take place on December 13 from the UMBC Event Center in Baltimore, MD and a tournament could take place that will have major implications for the show.
>Villain Enterprises vs. LifeBlood will be the first match on the livestream portion of Saturday Night at Center Stage, which will start at 7pm EDT / 12am BST on HonorClub.
>Silas Young, Okumura and Felino vs. Shinobi Shadow Squad (Cheeseburger, Eli Isom and Ryan Nova) has been signed and should air for Saturday Night at Center Stage.
>Matches taped exclusively for ROH Wrestling before the livestream will be two Top Prospect Tournament first-round matches: Haitian Sensation vs. Ken Dixon and Brian Johnson vs. Austin Gunn, Beer City Bruiser vs. Vinny Marseglia, and Rhett Titus vs. Shaheem Ali. Also in action will be Soldiers of Savagery, Jenny Rose, and Master and Machine.
>The Bouncers vs. Okumura and Felino and Dalton Castle vs. Eli Isom has been signed for Honor for All. Additionally, Dak Draper will face Makita in a TPT first-round match prior to the start of the livestream.
>Matt Taven, The Briscoes, RUSH, Shane Taylor, LifeBlood (Bandido, Mark Haskins and Tracy Williams) and Villain Enterprises (Marty Scurll, PCO, Brody King and Gordon) have been signed for ROH's Honor United tour in October.
Husky Harris - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 19:38:12 EST ytpEPA/P No.6285183 Reply
on one hand matt taven has this weird thing where all of his matches in mexico/with luchadors are usually better than average because he has the skillset to be a good base for them so even though this is another foregone conclusion title defense it should be better than the last couple

on the other hand
>Matt Taven
Shark GIrl (Male) - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 01:25:48 EST sBJ6SVWI No.6285285 Reply
Just now watching Fyter Fest. Was there an outrage over the chairshot to the head?
Alex Riley - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 01:29:31 EST F8fJXAHH No.6285288 Reply

Yes, but the outrage was tempered by the fact that it was a gimmicked chair, Cody was cut open by a freak accident.

Then you had Cornette and his followers outraging over the "it was a gimmicked chair" response and breaking kayfabe instead of using the chairshot to get heat on Shawn Spears.
Shark GIrl (Male) - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 01:32:10 EST sBJ6SVWI No.6285290 Reply
I thought it was just Cody being stupid and being okay with a headshot. But if the chair is gimmicked I'm all for it. the headshot with a chair is one of the more visually powerful things you can do in wrestling, and to allow it to happen (gimmicked chair of course) once in a long whle will keep it impactful and important.

Similar to how some promotions would ban the piledriver and only let a select few people use it in specific circumstances to make an impact
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 15:14:18 EST q3U6Z4Co No.6285458 Reply
After Alexander Hammerstone became the first MLW wrestler to wrestle in NOAH under the new alliance as part of the N-1 Victory tournament and he won his first match against Go Shiozaki today, Ricky Martinez will be the first MLW wrestler to wrestle in The Crash under their new alliance - https://mlw.com/2019/08/18/mlw-sends-first-wrestler-to-the-crash-lucha-libre/

Even if the chair was gimmicked and made safer for Cody to take the chairshot to the head, the backlash of that isn't surprising given how chairshots to the head have been phased out a lot in American wrestling.
Shark GIrl (Male) - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 15:58:58 EST sBJ6SVWI No.6285467 Reply
To me the outrage was going to happen no matter what I suppose. but now that it's out there that the chairs are gimmicked, I think it could die down. Maybe they make the worked chairs a little more visually obvious with like a red band on one of the legs or something though
Stacy Keibler - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 17:04:24 EST bWZ+YR1t No.6285477 Reply
I would hope so.

Though I would think "LAX" is Impact's intellectual property. And since it's a rotating stable, I doubt they'd let them just have it like EC3. I doubt they'd go by EYFBO either.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 17:20:22 EST qE0Hxhq0 No.6285480 Reply
I'm sure they'll probably go by EYFBO since that's the name they use outside of Impact. Maybe just change the meaning of the acronym though.

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