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WWE RAW Viewership Suffers Big Drop With NFL Return; fourth straight week Raw viewership went down.

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- Tue, 10 Sep 2019 17:00:58 EST knXsCHK+ No.6294642
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https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2019/09/wwe-raw-viewership-suffers-big-drop-with-nfl-return-659479/
Monday's WWE RAW episode, featuring the final hype for WWE Clash of Champions,
>drew an average of 2.130 million viewers, according to Showbuzz Daily.

>This is down from last week's 2.507 million viewers, and the second-lowest non-holiday audience ever, behind the June 10 show that drew 2.125 million viewers.
Last year's RAW episode that went up against the NFL Monday Night Football opener drew 2.74 million viewers, so this show is down 22.26% from last year. There was a 22% drop between hour 1 and hour 3 this week, which is the biggest hour 1 - hour 3 drop since Paul Heyman was hired as the Executive Director of the red brand.

This week's show, featuring the return to Madison Square Garden, featured WWE Hall of Famer Steve Austin plus the first-ever King of the Ring Triple Threat and the final build for Sunday's pay-per-view.

>For this week's show, the first hour drew 2.362 million viewers (last week's hour 1 - 2.638 million),
>the second hour drew 2.183 million viewers (last week's hour 2 - 2.557 million)
>and the final hour drew 1.845 million viewers (last week's hour 3 - 2.326 million).

>RAW was #11 for the night in viewership on cable, behind the NFL's two Monday Night Football openers on ESPN, Monday Night Kickoff, SportsCenter at midnight, 90 Day Fiance, Very Brady Renovation, The Five, Rachel Maddow Show, Tucker Carlson Tonight, and Hannity. The NFL MNF game between Houston and New Orleans topped the night in viewership and the 18-49 demographic with 13.078 million viewers. The game between Oakland and Denver came in second in viewership and the Cable Top 150 18-49 demographic with 10.619 million viewers. RAW was #5 in the 18-49 demographic on the Cable Top 150 this week, behind the two NFL games, Monday Night Kickoff and SportsCenter.

The Bachelor In Paradise on ABC drew 4.388 million viewers on broadcast TV in the 8pm hour while Lip Sync drew 3.512 million viewers on CBS, American Ninja Warrior drew 4.633 million viewers on NBC, So You Think You Can Dance? drew 1.925 million viewers on Fox and CW's Penn & Teller show drew 1.137 million viewers, all in the 8pm hour on broadcast TV.
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Tue, 10 Sep 2019 17:01:02 EST iLikEToleARn No.6294643 Reply
>>6294642
As of february 19, 1986, he got in troubly for saying niven, but then she would be awesome and told police, prosecutors said in the clash of the shows will ever get from celt?
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Tue, 10 Sep 2019 17:07:39 EST It2BUKqt No.6294648 Reply
I figure it’ll get the first sub-2mil viewership numbers by November.
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Chris Jericho - Tue, 10 Sep 2019 17:20:39 EST x2yu9nV0 No.6294656 Reply
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StarBuck - Tue, 10 Sep 2019 17:27:03 EST jEGuiRVR No.6294660 Reply
Shit it doesn't even seem that long ago TNA got a 1.35 rating with 2 million viewers. Who knew, not even 10 years later, WWE would be pulling in similar.

LOLWWE
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Akeem - Tue, 10 Sep 2019 17:56:01 EST mQt21HGJ No.6294675 Reply
RAW has been mildly more enjoyable lately but they probably shouldn't have waited three years to attempt to make their show good again.
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CM Punk - Tue, 10 Sep 2019 18:11:49 EST VHLJ6yP8 No.6294686 Reply
the rock wouldve drawn better than shit old steve enthusiasm on this show
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Rockin' Robin - Tue, 10 Sep 2019 18:28:41 EST kDhu5Ddp No.6294696 Reply
This is REALLY down compared to last year
https://www.tpww.net/2018/09/wwe-raw-ratings-sep-10-2018-down-against-football/

>8PM: 2,818,000
>9PM: 2,801,000
>10PM: 2,601,000

That 700K drop compared to hour 2 of last year is probably the scariest non-holiday drop they've had.

If Austin didn't do shit then they might be really fucked. Even that last legends show only did like a 500K increase compared to like the 2 mil or so increase past legends shows did.

imo football really isn't to blame because football and WWE probably stopped overlapping with fanbases a long time ago.
If this continues then my prediction of this christmas or new years RAW doing less than 1mil will come true.
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Rockin' Robin - Tue, 10 Sep 2019 18:31:16 EST kDhu5Ddp No.6294697 Reply
>>6294696
wait I was focusing on hour 2, hour 3 had an even bigger 800K drop
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Rockin' Robin - Tue, 10 Sep 2019 18:36:13 EST kDhu5Ddp No.6294700 Reply
And I really wonder what EXACTLY the people that tuning out hate. Football has always been a lame excuse and is now more than ever, Roman isn't the problem or at least not the biggest problem. Obviously a lot of it is the natural course of technology and people just having better things to do but there IS some element of the actual product that's driving people away now more than ever but it's hard to see what because it's been using the same formula for so long without these kind of loses and the product is actually better in a lot of ways than 5-10 years ago.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Tue, 10 Sep 2019 18:49:14 EST It2BUKqt No.6294706 Reply
>>6294700
It’s a combination of things, not one specific cause. WWE losing some top-tier talent in CM Punk and (as a regular performer) John Cena over the past few years didn’t help. WWE sticking with the same tired formula for its programming doesn't help. A lack of major star power (no one on the regular roster got anywhere near the same pop as Austin did last night), competition from other shows and other media services (e.g., Netflix), indirect competition from other wrestling promotions (including the competition to come from AEW), and cable/satellite cordcutting also aren’t helping. And then there’s still the matter of WWE programming itself, including the amount of time it’s on air (soon to be seven hours per week!) and the perceived quality of said programming.

Much like how the Attitude Era was a “perfect storm” of circumstances all playing to WWE’s favor, the current slump is a similarly “perfect” set of circumstances that happen to be playing against WWE this time around. You can’t pick out one thing and hold it up as the root cause of the slump any more than you could pick out one thing from the Attitude Era and say with the certainty of a god that it was the one precise thing that made WWE awesome back then.
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Monty Brown - Tue, 10 Sep 2019 18:53:14 EST FQT6VJz4 No.6294707 Reply
>>6294700
>I really wonder what EXACTLY the people that tuning out hate.

It's not hate. It's boredom. A trainwreck of a show can be more watchable than a bland, boring show.
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Nick Jackson - Tue, 10 Sep 2019 19:16:30 EST n668Xxlt No.6294715 Reply
Really bad number. It underlines just how unpopular they are right now on television.
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Ultimate Warrior - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 01:28:00 EST yrDco3bn No.6294902 Reply
>>6294707
This. Did anything important or meaningful happen monday night? Was there any sort of genuinely interesting story developments? Any exciting, interesting matches?

Of course not. Raw's booking is so formulaic that it's depressingly predictable: everyone who's going to be on the PPV goes over. The guy who's a part of a major storyline goes over. Everything between the first Raw after a PPV up until the PPV itself is largely filler, by the end of the second Raw you have a pretty good idea as to what the PPV card is going to look like. So then you have roughly three hours of live TV where for the vast majority of the night absolutely nothing interesting is going on. There are no exhibition bouts between two guys not in a program because that doesn't push the PPV. There are no upsets because that makes the guys going into the PPV look weak. Outside of the chat on Taima.tv there's no real reason to watch Raw for the most part.

Smackdown, to its credit, avoids this problem by giving us storylines that exist outside of PPVs. The Roman-Bryan-Murphy-Rowan angle has been awesome in that it's got me interested to see what happens next week, led to some legitimately great and competitive matches and gotten everyone involved over. It's good TV. Ditto with the Shane McMahon/Kevin Owens feud, even if it's not particularly well-written. This is the kind of stuff that keeps me interested and engaged.
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Primo - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 02:04:49 EST GBs6rOwA No.6294904 Reply
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>>6294850
imagine lacking so much in the personal worth department that you try to overcompensate for the fact that you're a total faggot turd by obsessively paying attention to a show's (that you claim to not pay any attention) ratings and pretending to celebrate about it.

in b4 the usual pants shitting, damage control and limp dick retardation we've all come to expect from these unusually obese, severely impotent, contrarian pimps. i'm looking forward to your demented bitch fits lmao.
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Trent Acid - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 02:08:47 EST kDhu5Ddp No.6294906 Reply
>>6294902
RAW does storylines just like Smackdown does sometimes. But yeah not enough.
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Scott Parker - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 02:28:29 EST mRwrG9Eh No.6294908 Reply
>>6294904
It sucks that I know people so stupid that I can't make out if it is lazy trolling or the poster is just stupid.
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Misutero - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 02:40:33 EST iLe2GkB4 No.6294912 Reply
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>s-s-see you next week
>it's entirely the decline of tv's fault!
>muh stocks
LMAO imagine next year's numbers.
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Masada - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 04:15:33 EST OTHY13Ml No.6294922 Reply
Do we really need a new ratings thread every week?
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Silver King - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 06:01:11 EST rrM48FwY No.6294940 Reply
>>6294922
I have to deal with RAW/SD stickies so you'll have to deal with ratings threads. sounds fair
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Britani Knight - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 07:05:27 EST BNhCDHMk No.6294946 Reply
>>6294904
We hate it cos the product is trash and the employees are boot-lickers bro.
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Nolo King - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:09:35 EST UotnGaa1 No.6295011 Reply
So we are going to ignore that ratings are going down across the board? We are also going to ignore the fact that shows like Monday Night Football are accessible to more households?

Interesting.

Not sure why people get off from WWE's "failings." It's kind of jarring. WWE will be fine, it's a sign of people's viewing methods changing over time. The Network retains thousands of subscribers and they are a powerhouse on social media. Not many people are in the top 5 for that key demographic.

Just some points to consider.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:20:36 EST It2BUKqt No.6295020 Reply
>>6295011
>WWE will be fine

The Saudi blood money can only do so much before WWE has to really cut corners because of dropping revenues. And if the ratings for Raw continue to spiral downward, USA isn't going to give up the kind of money it gave up for the most recent TV deal. Bad ratings is not what's best for business.
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Neko Nitta - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:21:35 EST o7tMi7Jn No.6295022 Reply
>>6295011
lmfao this pathetic coping lol
That corporation doesn't care about you.
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Invader - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:31:31 EST cfOXxE22 No.6295026 Reply
>>6295011
>So we are going to ignore that ratings are going down across the board?

Are shows losing 22% viewership in 12 months across the board?

>they are a powerhouse on social media

And how much money does getting 500k viewers on Tout net them?

>Not many people are in the top 5 for that key demographic.

Which demographic? The average age of the WWE viewer is 40-50 years old
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Ring Ryda Red - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:35:08 EST HBLWC/LC No.6295028 Reply
>>6295011
>changing over time

What was the big "viewing method change" in 2001-2002?
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:55:54 EST iLikEToleARn No.6295042 Reply
>>6295041
Though I'd advise you against considering gaming while you go with it, NXT still smolders, but my plan to turn heel.
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Trent Acid - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 19:06:07 EST kDhu5Ddp No.6295253 Reply
here's smackdown
https://www.tpww.net/2019/09/wwe-smackdown-ratings-sep-10-2019-down/

>Tuesday’s episode of SmackDown Live drew 2,061,000 viewers on USA Network, down from last week’s 2,130,000 viewers.

>SmackDown was #1 on cable for the night in the 18-49 demographic.

>It drew a 0.62 rating in the 18-49 demographic, meaning 0.62% of total people that age watched the show, down from last week’s 0.65 rating.

>This time last year, the September 11, 2018 episode of SmackDown Live drew 2,229,000 viewers. The September 12, 2017 episode drew 2,754,000 viewers.
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Trent Acid - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 19:10:03 EST kDhu5Ddp No.6295255 Reply
>>6295253
and jesus christ what happened in 2017 to drive away 500K people again? Stuff like Bryan's lukewarm return I guess? I remember hating the prolonged Shane/KO feud but liking a lot of other stuff around that time.
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Trent Acid - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 19:43:52 EST kDhu5Ddp No.6295267 Reply
>>6295265
Not really. I don't remember people hating it except for the Shane/KO feud.
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Shayne Hawke - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 20:55:29 EST mRwrG9Eh No.6295289 Reply
Vince is having the worst 9/++
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Henry O. Godwinn - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 21:20:35 EST IEQWWi/I No.6295296 Reply
>>6295255
2017 was before Bryan came back. That would've been around the time Jinder dropped the belt to AJ I think? So people were probably just burned by Jinder's flop of a run.
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Anarquia - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 23:52:27 EST Uz1bd5r7 No.6295361 Reply
>>6295253
Wasnt summer 2017 when they went from hot AJ driven SDL to booring Jinder SDL? After that it was just lackluster SDL that ended in Superstar shakeup that killed SDL for year.
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Charly Malice - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 01:48:56 EST HBLWC/LC No.6295383 Reply
>>6295255
>Bad Takes Shithead immediately & irrationally blames a proven star like Bryan

I really want to know exactly what the WWE did to you that made you be like this. You're grotesquely fascinating.
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Shawn Michaels - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 02:13:07 EST kDhu5Ddp No.6295389 Reply
>>6295383
I just remember his return being underwhelming and not many people defending it. I was actually going "well it could have been a lot worse I guess, it's not so bad" at the start and kinda enjoying the Big Cass feud and especially enjoying the Miz feud.

I just saw a lot of bitching about it and I think it's a straw that broke the camel's back for some people more than Jinder whose push was just standard main event heel push.
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Lince Dorado - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 02:46:06 EST 3Ef7lePC No.6295392 Reply
>>6295389
His return was bad, but it was last year, but they butchered sdl totally after mania too. Also what hit sdl hardest was death of raw ratings. If raw dose well so will sdl. Year of corbin did its number for raw.
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Nolo King - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 05:14:24 EST UotnGaa1 No.6295413 Reply
>>6295026

>Are shows losing 22% viewership in 12 months across the board?

There is a USA today article (not sure if I can put links here, but it's easy to find) that highlights the fact that using TV has plunged 15% and is down 36% since 2014.

Please remember that NFL is available to more viewers. For WWE to crack that top 20 or top 10 spot on a cable network is rather impressive for a "dying" organization.

>And how much money does getting 500k viewers on Tout net them?

1 billions followers combined for their social media accounts. One of the highest subscribed YouTube page with hundreds of thousands of views each week. Seems like there is interest.

>Which demographic? The average age of the WWE viewer is 40-50 years old

18-49 which is a coveted demographic.
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Charly Malice - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 07:28:22 EST HBLWC/LC No.6295426 Reply
>>6295389
Jinder was a standard main event heel push for a guy who'd be lucky to get a push on Main Event.

>>6295413
15 is a smaller number than 22 Nolo

>followers on Twitter

lmao
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P.N. News - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 12:30:29 EST GXHNtkkw No.6295496 Reply
>>6295413
>how much money
>views followers interest combined accounts
lol how many views buys a can of coke

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