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- Mon, 02 Dec 2019 16:37:57 EST ymriPqp8 No.6333793
File: 1575322677207.png -(195307B / 190.73KB, 703x1203) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. AEW Ratings FUCKING PLUMMET
NXT: 810,000
AEW: 663,000

The demos were barely in favor for AEW
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Zema Ion - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 16:42:46 EST Jf9xzybJ No.6333797 Reply
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THOSE RATINGS GOT BUTCHERED
AND BLADED
BUTCHERED AND BLADED
THEY WERE BUTCHERED AND BLADED
and look it's The Bunny, Allie.
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Neko Nitta - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 16:43:16 EST ymriPqp8 No.6333798 Reply
Also, the demos are essentially even, so AEW got absolutely obliterated.
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The Warlord - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 16:46:54 EST b0jIMCOD No.6333800 Reply
Don't care. Still don't watch LOLWWE or it's bitch brands.
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 16:49:34 EST M1ahJWky No.6333803 Reply
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I've not been following AEW closely these past two weeks. What went wrong?
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Sexy Star - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 16:50:25 EST azIpB/L7 No.6333804 Reply
Can the mods please lock this thread?
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Jazz - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 16:52:37 EST jEGuiRVR No.6333806 Reply
>outgoing and cultured AEW fans out doing stuff for Thanksgiving. Probably catching up with bros. Bedroom-bound WWE boomers with zero lives sat at home watching their mush with their 80 year old mom

Even when AEW lose they win
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Karl Anderson - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 16:55:45 EST d1obD4PJ No.6333807 Reply
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>>6333803
bad storylines, bad women's matches that go for too long, dumb indie gimmicks
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 16:56:42 EST It2BUKqt No.6333808 Reply
>>6333806
>Thanksgiving

Wednesday travel was probably one reason for the drop, yeah.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:01:21 EST It2BUKqt No.6333814 Reply
>>6333810
I didn't catch NXT, so I can't compare the quality of those two shows, but yeah, AEW was something of a clunker last week.
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Will o' The Wisp - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:04:47 EST xRPb2TFv No.6333821 Reply
>>6333793

To be honest this week was the first AEW i skipped most of it and just watched a couple of segments. I hope this is an eye opener for them.
Have to stop assuming everyone who watches AEW Dynamite watches Dark and Being The Elite
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Seina - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:07:05 EST 41dEkOpL No.6333823 Reply
This makes me sad, WWE can't be allowed to win another wrestling war.
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Ivan Putski - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:12:18 EST myd2KC+b No.6333825 Reply
I mean it was probably their weakest show to date but damn
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Annie Social - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:17:54 EST BxsoGG2K No.6333827 Reply
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NEW CAR SMELL STATUS: GONE
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JTG - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:20:12 EST z+c6DKUE No.6333829 Reply
>>6333803
Same old shit full of vanilla midgets doing flips every match.

The highlight of the show had to be Virgil though.
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Pete Rose - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:20:34 EST Z2qdxk5n No.6333830 Reply
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>>6333803
WWE made NXT stars beat up all the main roster guys because they left 200 people in Saudi Arabia because Saudi was holding them hostage over a sour billion dollar deal.

Then they introduced main roster stars on NXT every week. AEW had pretty meh show last week and marks preferred team Saudi over AEW.>>6333803
>>6333803
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Cuije - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:21:48 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6333831 Reply
>Night before Thanksgiving
>Aka the night you go back to your local haunts and get wasted

Yeah can't say I am surprised. This is a non-topic. Back to 850k this week

I hope, I really really want a semi-mainstream competitor to WWE
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The Warlord - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:26:32 EST b0jIMCOD No.6333834 Reply
>>6333807
Orange Cassidy is one of the most over things on AEW lol. Normies love him too. Can't blame him and he had nothing to do with last weeks show.
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Chris Sabin - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:30:36 EST QQesQNiH No.6333836 Reply
Mostly looks like a drop because of Thanksgiving travel. Networks don't care about these numbers, same as they don't care about Christmas ratings.

If AEW's ratings tank this week, then there's cause for alarm.
Same for NXT.
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Edge - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:36:43 EST uGInp/Qh No.6333838 Reply
>>6333837
People already critique AEW for over-promising and under-delivering, when will he learn?
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Cuije - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:37:29 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6333839 Reply
>>6333837
If they panic and announce something actually huge it could be the moment AEW jumps the shark and goes chasing ratings.
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Ruckus - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:40:25 EST MLtbLLfo No.6333840 Reply
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>>6333793

I feel like AEW is missing a strong main storyline arc that should be the backbone to the show. While I enjoy Jericho and the Inner Circle feuding against whoever, it doesn't feel as strong as a top heel faction story should be. Maybe they've been feuding with the wrong guys since the Cody feud ended? I don't know. But right now, with how AEW presents all of the their feuds and stories, it feels like there's one big angle that's missing to help keep the flow of the show going more smoothly and captivating. The wrestling itself is all great but it needs more than that to keep people guessing and interested on what's going to happen in the the following week's show.
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The Warlord - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:56:32 EST b0jIMCOD No.6333845 Reply
I predict AEW beats NXT by a lot this week.
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Annie Social - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:56:48 EST BxsoGG2K No.6333846 Reply
>>6333840
There was a post PPV reset. Just like NXT where the post Takeover episodes used to be a bunch a squash matches and setting up stories. There's no 4 week rush to get stories going for the next PPV.
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Cyrus - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 18:02:04 EST m+dPSDIk No.6333853 Reply
>>6333849

Great more wimmins matches to be given too much time.
Shida is great but they are going to be given 20 minutes, this will test her carrying powers for sure.
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The Warlord - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 18:03:42 EST b0jIMCOD No.6333855 Reply
>>6333850
These results. Any AEW fans who didn't watch last week are going to watch this week.
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John Laurinaitis - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 18:08:13 EST w8IDUD+n No.6333862 Reply
NXT got a major push at Survivor Series and had a great Takeover Wargames. It's no surprise they took some of AEW's audience last week.
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The Warlord - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 18:11:34 EST b0jIMCOD No.6333866 Reply
>>6333863
because they don't want AEW to lose? This is my prediction. You can laugh at me next week if I am wrong. But in my mind they will win this coming week. Also Survivor Series afterglow is gone now.
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Cuije - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 18:12:00 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6333867 Reply
Honestly it's possible the drop was a combo of AEW's target demo traveling (I know I missed it cause of that) combo'ed with the Post PPVs bump (Where they got a big push in both)

That said I don't quite but that much faith in that hypothesis, however I am excited to see what this week's looks like

>>6333849
This is a good call. Those two can have a decent match, and Cody will stop getting shit on for never announcing Women's shit. they still need a storyline tho
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Cyrus - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 18:18:17 EST m+dPSDIk No.6333875 Reply
>>6333870

Remember that there was no "war" until WWE moved their show to go head to head with AEW. All AEW really care about is doing well enough for TNT to be happy.
Acting like being better than a sub-division of WWE is some great thing is strange, might as well just say "look we are doing better than EVOLVE" it means as much.
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Annie Social - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 18:21:34 EST BxsoGG2K No.6333877 Reply
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>AEW last week vs. AEW this week
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 18:21:35 EST M1ahJWky No.6333878 Reply
>>6333870
they are right. AEW should have had a strong women's division right out the gate and it's baffling that they didn't
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Will o' The Wisp - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 18:26:53 EST xRPb2TFv No.6333882 Reply
>>6333870
AEW should go hard on getting Kairi Sane and Asuka once their contracts come up
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The Warlord - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 18:32:34 EST b0jIMCOD No.6333884 Reply
>>6333878
Kenny Omega said on WOR in their interview that he will be bringing more joshi in 2020. So it should be a pretty joshi heavy womens division which I am down with.
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 18:41:57 EST M1ahJWky No.6333886 Reply
>>6333866
>because they don't want AEW to lose?

What percentage of AEW's viewership are actively involved in ratings discussion on the internet?
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P.N. News - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 18:48:18 EST NXdPaudo No.6333888 Reply
>>6333870
I mean, they're right obviously but not sure it really has anything to do with the ratings.
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Blind Rage - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 19:16:50 EST G6pI0nhu No.6333897 Reply
What’s interesting to me is that NXT’s number is not crazy up, AEw’s number is just crazy down

Most of the folks who watch NXT watched this week, but some ~300k AEW viewers just didn’t watch rasslin on Wednesday
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Krong - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 20:31:35 EST 2kuh/uVy No.6333930 Reply
>>6333870

To be fair, I haven't heard many womens wrestlers get the praise that I heard for people like Kairi, Asuka, Io, and Ember. WWE kind of kneecapped womens wrestling
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Blind Rage - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 21:14:18 EST G6pI0nhu No.6333956 Reply
>>6333942

>Record low ratings on RAW
>very underperforming ratings on SD
>NXT not growing after putting everyone over on PPV
>New Car smell of AEW only lasted two months.

RIP rasslin's already meager mainstream relevance.
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Mano Metalico - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 21:32:13 EST VgX129L2 No.6333958 Reply
>>6333956
>NXT not growing after putting everyone over on PPV

Almost like having a stable of 4 generic vanilla guys holding all your titles isn't gonna catch casual viewers attention.
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Bam Bam Bigelow - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 02:58:12 EST MxPbJ4Sn No.6334019 Reply
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>>6333793
>noooooo!!! it doesn't fucking count!!! wwe only benefited from a post PPV bump and it was thanksgiving week anyway so holiday ratings don't even fucking count!!! the past 2 weeks were just a fucking fluke so it's NOT a fucking trend!!! IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR DAMN IT!!!
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Ryuji Ito - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 03:00:49 EST N5OJXAeK No.6334020 Reply
I feel I say this every week but why aren't both sides panicking that they can't even hit 1M when they used to before?
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Bobo Brazil - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 03:10:24 EST pYBmLep0 No.6334021 Reply
>>6334020
because its to be expected for a new show to do very big ratings on its first episodes until they stabilize and both their tv networks wanted much less than what they're doing right now
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Hercules - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 03:23:36 EST HbwTZwjt No.6334023 Reply
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>>6334019

>2 weeks
> trend

Your McWrestling put Survivor Series behind these measely 2 weeks lel
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Justin Credible - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 06:05:08 EST mZS5elmH No.6334033 Reply
>>6333840
Well they're building to Mox/Jericho which is the most logical thing from a business standpoint. Cody is cool and all, but Jericho and Mox are the only real draws they have atm. Cody is 100% the HHH of the promotion, even if he doesn't have the insane ego Hunter has.

They really need to establish Kenny better, because while he's a star to smarks, no one else give a fuck. But he has everything you'd want in a top babyface. Good look, good worker, decent promo, good character work, doesn't act like a cunt in public and embarrass the company. They need to spend the next year building him up for a rematch with Mox.
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Kana - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 12:33:38 EST sK8BwNDg No.6334075 Reply
>>6334017
Wow, that's bullshit. Ric Flair isn't vanilla, don't lump him in with the others
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Hercules - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 12:39:20 EST tY7YSTVl No.6334077 Reply
They need sting vs moxley to make waves.
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KAGETORA - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 13:02:00 EST BlrIoG3o No.6334082 Reply
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>The obsession with AEW vs NXT ratings misses an arguably bigger story, NXT vs RAW

>The recent NXT focus has cannibalised RAW’s share of the (stable) total USA network wrestling audience.

>Having a better, shorter show on USA (now presented as an equal) could hurt RAW long term
https://twitter.com/GRAPPLapp/status/1201838574108364801
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Minori Makiba - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 13:31:26 EST iaBqYU2l No.6334090 Reply
This past wednesday was a win for both NXT and AEW in different ways.

But if we're being honest from a business standpoint, AEW has lost more viewers since it started than NXT. That could be due to fans using DVR to watch whatever show the next day, but AEW losing nearly 1 million viewers to NXT's ~600,000 is concerning.
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7ven - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:05:29 EST uGInp/Qh No.6334105 Reply
>>6334090
Since the official start of the head-to-head war, AEW lost 746,000, over half its week one audience compared to NXT losing 81,000 since they started going head-to-head.

It's especially bad when last week was advertised as a supposedly "PPV quality card" for Dynamite.
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Mr. Perfect - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:05:39 EST HwGKvo67 No.6334106 Reply
>>6334096
The first 20% of non-commercial time dedicated to a single segment with no payoff, having your big Christopher Daniels vs. Pentagon Jr. match announced like four days in advance online out of nowhere, having a women's champion who's not even in the country half the time, not letting Cody even cut a promo everyone wanted to hear without being jumped by two random assholes who Excalibur apparently knows but doesn't want to tell us anything about, a huge brawl literally every week, taking two weeks to just give a rich dude a ring he could've shown up with and nobody would question it, giving Hangman Page a bunch of TV time and no real storylines, and booking in the tag division that's looked from the beginning like they flip coins backstage to see who'll win but now is being shit on even worse as a way of pushing Trent as a singles competitor. Doesn't seem "fine" to me.
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Trent Acid - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:07:29 EST b0jIMCOD No.6334107 Reply
>>6334105
Yes but the show is fine. It's a fine show. It's not fallen off a cliff in quality. It's actually gotten better. People were flocking to it because it was a new show. If you think a show is only good when it has millions of viewers then go eat McDonalds for every meal and watch WWE every day of the week(they have a show every day for you! :) )
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Trent Acid - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:11:06 EST b0jIMCOD No.6334111 Reply
>>6334107
meant for >>6334106

Last weeks episode was its worst one besides the opening segment which I thought was pretty entertaining. That being said..it was far from bad and AEW is still a new product in my eyes. It seems foolish to count it out so quickly.

There is a line between THIS IS GARBAGE I AM NEVER WATCHING IT and THIS IS THE BEST WRESTLING SHOW OF ALL TIME. People seem to have trouble finding that middle ground and judging it as it comes.

One thing I like about AEW is that they try to learn from the mistakes they make. I doubt Excalibur will ever make a mistake like that again for example. I have a feeling they will do some explaining as to who they are this week as well.
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KAGETORA - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:13:00 EST BlrIoG3o No.6334112 Reply
I know its
>front row brian
but this was interesting:

>variance in AEW demos for debut 10/2 versus 11/27 is striking.
>females 12-34 0.30 to 0.10
>females 18-49 0.44 to 0.19

>males 12-34 0.61 to 0.17
>males 18-49 0.92 to 0.33

>adults 18-49 0.68 to 0.26

>persons 18-34 0.56 to 0.16
>persons 25-54 0.74 to 0.28
>persons 50+ 0.34 to 0.25

>Here’s NXT from 10/2 to 11/27... variances not as drastic.
>females 12-34 0.17 to 0.07
>females 18-49 0.23 to 0.17

>males 12-34 0.21 to 0.15
>males 18-49 0.41 to 0.31

>adults 18-49 0.32 to 0.24

>persons 18-34 0.23 to 0.12
>persons 25-54 0.36 to 0.27
>persons 50+ 0.36 to 0.40

>Data I utilized... via @ShowBuzzDaily
https://twitter.com/fightoracle/status/1201721056945463296
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Mr. Perfect - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:13:43 EST HwGKvo67 No.6334113 Reply
>>6334111
They're still giving a sudden ending for no apparent reason to the storyline I was most interested in, ignoring Darby right after his big Moxley boost-- seriously, nobody is talking about him now-- and literally nothing is going on.

You can't have a two-month period of "it's fucking nothing" after every PPV and expect people to watch.
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:27:38 EST YILbGvXF No.6334121 Reply
>>6334107
>>6334111
where among that guys criticisms of Dynamite was there anything to do with WWE/NXT?
why are you resorting to childish consolewarring when none of his arguments had any degree of consolewar in them. he had personal and seemingly valid criticisms about a specific show and none of them had anything to do with whether or not NXT/WWE was good or bad.. which he didn't state either way.
>If you think a show is only good when it has millions of viewers then go eat McDonalds for every meal and watch WWE every day of the week(they have a show every day for you! :)
he never said anything to indicate he felt one way or another about this, so why do you just assume this is what he is saying? quit making WWE insults/"points your go-to when they make absolutely no fucking sense in the context of the conversation. this is a prime example of stupid childish console war bullshit and you trying to imply something that was never there to begin with.
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Trent Acid - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:41:18 EST b0jIMCOD No.6334125 Reply
>>6334121
I mixed his post up with someone elses who was talking about ratings.
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:55:31 EST YILbGvXF No.6334128 Reply
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>>6334125
so this post >>6334107 wasn't meant for >>6334106 despite the fact that you literally say it was meant for it in >>6334111, and instead was actually meant for>>6334105. which you had already actually initially responded to anyways..
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Trent Acid - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:06:28 EST b0jIMCOD No.6334130 Reply
>>6334128
no I thought that the other ID was the guy talking about ratings. So I thought he was saying AEW was bad because because ratings dropped and therefore it's bad. So I said if you only watch things because of ratings then watch WWE every day because it has the most ratings.

But that person wasn't him...so what I said was meant for nobody. nb
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:21:32 EST YILbGvXF No.6334131 Reply
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>>6334130
ok. due to reply confusion I thought this was detrimental console warring that deserved to be called out as such.

it wasn't, so I retract biting your head off. I apologize
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Michael Tarver - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:47:45 EST 2c+dQqx3 No.6334136 Reply
i feel like this was bound to happen simply because wwe is just far more established than aew at this point. the only people a casual fan would know in aew are the former wwe people like cody or jericho nobody who is not familiar with indie stuff is gonna know who the young bucks are or the dark order or pretty much anyone else tbh there might be some people who catch pentagon and fenix and remember them from lucha underground same could be said for luchasaurus. if aew wants to gain viewers they are in dire need of stars they need to have somebody big and known other than jericho to help pull in more interest. i just dont know who is even free at this point that people would tune in for. but either way the ratings will continue to fall until more stars are established. they are trying you can see it with people like mox and omega but they need more they need a john cena or a rock or a stone cold they need someone or something that will bring people over from the other side while also drawing in new fans.
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Mr. Perfect - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:52:29 EST HwGKvo67 No.6334139 Reply
>>6334136
Moxley was huge in WWE. He could be that, but they're holding off with having him around a lot until they've built up some other stars, I guess.

Lucha Underground told more story in the first nine one-hour episodes than AEW has in nine two-hour episodes of Dynamite, eight one-hour Dark episodes, and a four-hour PPV, all of which happened after they'd been developing these stars over the summer in shows and PPVs.
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Zack Ryder - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 18:17:59 EST YlKMygy/ No.6334178 Reply
>constant whining by WWE drones defending their mediocre product
>AEW fanboys

Fuck, pro wrestling is depressing.
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Lucky Cannon - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 18:23:02 EST RIMHP1wE No.6334182 Reply
>>6334178
If it helps, I only watch NJPW and AEW, and I'm frustrated with AEW right now.
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Haku - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 19:37:19 EST 96Qn3Jou No.6334196 Reply
>>6334178
not all of it, NWA Powerrr has been great and most of the fans are mature enough to ignore console wars bullshit
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Giant Baba - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 20:47:38 EST qyI7txO8 No.6334222 Reply
>>6334178
I watch quite a bit of wrestling all around, I just want WWE to fail.
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Scott Parker - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 22:59:44 EST Z96aJ4e0 No.6334251 Reply
>>6334113
They're doing a bad job of building people in general. It's already started to feel like it might turn into a wankfest for BTE guys (except Omega) and ex-WWE guys that smarks (r.edditors) will know.
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Tiger Mask - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 06:43:13 EST gF+lQNyj No.6334305 Reply
>>6334251
Every member of The Elite has either just lost or is currently losing a feud, the fuck are you on about?
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 07:27:05 EST M1ahJWky No.6334315 Reply
>>6334251
>It's already started to feel like it might turn into a wankfest for BTE guys
>might turn into

They pretty much launched the promotion as that to the point where it's unclear who is actually booking and running the company and who is a wrestler
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Tadasuke - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 08:11:05 EST HyjSjWmi No.6334322 Reply
>>6334315
You say this right after you said you haven't been following AEW closely? At least pretend to watch something before shitting all over it.
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Lexie Fyfe - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 09:21:49 EST BlrIoG3o No.6334333 Reply
>>6334305
>Every member of The Elite has either just lost or is currently losing a feud, the fuck are you on about?

not him but even if they do lose matches, they still have competitive win-loss records, and more importantly are positioned prominently on the TV show.

For example, both Kenny Omega & Joey Janela's characters are "going thru slumps" but KO still gets a lot more screentime.

Compare Cody's screen time, even when losing, to Riho, who is their womens champion.
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Mike Quackenbush - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 10:10:30 EST d6C2Ifup No.6334345 Reply
The honey moon phase is starting to wear off for AEW.

A lot of their matches "big" matches have been done on the indies or in WWE. With a small ass roster, they're going to take bad ratings.

Look at how many people can easily main event NXT: Keith Lee, Undisputed Era, Balor, Ciampa, Riddle, Dream, Dijak, etc.

Whereas AEW? Always going to be the same dudes.
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Eve - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 11:46:34 EST ILaCyWJ3 No.6334365 Reply
>>6334333
>god, look at all the screen time their top babyface gets, what a shitty company
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Lexie Fyfe - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 12:14:19 EST BlrIoG3o No.6334375 Reply
>>6334365
that doesn't refute the argument that some fans are not interested in an "Elite wankfest" And neither does "well they lose a bunch!"

Roman Reigns actually gets pinned and eats losses a bunch of times but some fans are still sick of him because he's so prominent.

Believe or not, but not everyone loved the Elite in ROH/NJPW, so a promotion run by them isn't going to win over detractors just because they put over LAX and go to a draw with Darby Allin.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 12:27:52 EST It2BUKqt No.6334379 Reply
>>6334378
That's not really an argument that refutes the central point. And as someone who watches Dynamite every week, I happen to agree with >>6334375 in that not everyone wants an Elite wankfest in AEW. And it's not going to keep the company afloat forever, too.
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Charlie Haas - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 12:30:44 EST 3iPJRicK No.6334381 Reply
>>6334305
>>6334305
>>6334333

The Elite guys have lost too much. They need TV draws as soon possible. Pick 3 or 4 guys and book them like gods. We're 2 months and Omega has lsot 3 big matches with no significant mic time. Thats just dumb.
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Lexie Fyfe - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 12:39:11 EST BlrIoG3o No.6334387 Reply
>>6334381
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the Elite, but I understand Meltz's take that they're losing too much.

I don't want an Elite-focused promotion but AEW is what it is and "what's best for business" was an Elite-focused promotion at the launch. It obviously can't last forever.

But the first few months kind of needed to be, the Elite vs recognizable WWE faces like Jericho, Moxley and/or Dustin Rhodes. Fuck, given how over he was in the battle royal, maybe Billy Gunn should have put over Hangman Page on an episode of Dynamite.

Just under the main event should have been the Lucha Bros, LAX and SCU. The tag division is strong as hell, and Private Party, Best Friends, Jurassic Express should have been having competitive matches putting them over on Dynamite. (I do think they handled Scorpio Sky's mini program with Jericho well)
Then Post-Full Gear, should have been mixing in LB, SCU, Swagger, Sammy, Janela, Darby, MJF, even Jimmy Havoc into TV programs with the Elite to build to 2020 PPVs.
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Lacey - Thu, 05 Dec 2019 06:27:41 EST gF+lQNyj No.6334764 Reply
>>6334375
When's the last time a Reigns loss actually meant something?

>The ELITE constantly putting guys over is a "wankfest"

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