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- Thu, 13 Feb 2020 22:04:27 EST z+c6DKUE No.6357924
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> WWE officially announced on 2/10 that the 37th WrestleMania will be coming to the new SoFi Stadium in Inglewood, CA, just outside Los Angeles, on March 28, 2021. The date is a week early because April 4, which would usually be the date, is Easter Sunday.

> It had been expected Los Angeles to be the home of the show, and both sides had agreed more than a year back on that aspect. The city wanted it in 2021 as a way of preparing the city and the stadium for a major tourist event before they hosted the 2022 Super Bowl. WWE wanted to follow the Super Bowl, largely to make an attendance announcement that would include noting that they beat the Super Bowl attendance number. They will likely announce a number larger than the Super Bowl would be able to fit, even if it would also likely not be a real number, but they couldn’t claim to have beaten the Super Bowl until after the Super Bowl,

> The company also announced the Hall of Fame, Smackdown, NXT Takeover and Raw will take place at the Staples Center. Given the size of the market, there is a good chance that at least the final three of those events would sell out. In addition, with the number of different venues that have housed independent wrestling, there will likely be one of the highest number of independent shows ever, in particular Lucha Libre style events and possibly a PWG involvement for the first time on that list. SoFi Stadium, which is scheduled to open in July and be the home of both the Los Angeles Rams and Los Angeles Chargers starting with the upcoming football season, is listed with a capacity of 70,240, but it can be expanded for another 30,000 seats and the Super Bowl is legitimately expected to draw 100,000. WWE will also likely announce six figures, likely announcing a larger number than their public company record of 101,763 set for WrestleMania 32 at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, TX on April 3, 2016.

> The Arlington police department later reported that 80,709 fans was the actual turnstile count for that event. If they expand the stadium, and likely will, this can break what is the legitimate largest crowd in WWE history. “Many people are more excited about us hosting WrestleMania than the Olympics,” said James T. Butts, the mayor of Inglewood, to the Los Angeles Times. “I was surprised at how popular the WWE [is].”

> At the press conference, Stephanie McMahon mentioned she hoped Ronda Rousey, who is from the area, would be on the show, saying it’s not if but when, as far as Rousey returning to WWE at some point. Rousey signed a three-year deal with WWE, promised them a full year leading to WrestleMania, and then was going to take time off to try and start a family. Roman Reigns was also there, and pushed the idea of a match with The Rock, saying this would be the right time and right place for such a match.

> New Japan Pro Wrestling made two major announcements and a few minor ones on 2/9 at the New Beginning in Osaka show. The big one is that New Japan World Pro Wrestling will return to prime time in April, with a weekly show at 8 p.m. on Friday nights on BS Asahi, the satellite channel of TV-Asahi. The announcement was made calling back to the glory days of television in the 70s and 80s with Antonio Inoki, Tatsumi Fujinami, Abdullah the Butcher, Hulk Hogan, Stan Hansen, Andre the Giant, Tiger Mask and Dynamite Kid as some of the leading stars.

> From its inception in 1972, until 1987, 8 p.m. on Friday night was the traditional New Japan television time slot. When ratings declined in 1987, it was moved first to Tuesday, and then to Monday, also at 8 p.m. In 1988, it was moved to Saturday afternoon at 4 p.m. and then after that, as has been the case for the last 30 plus years, the show has aired post-midnight, first a 60 minute show, and then cut to 30 minutes, around 2:30 a.m. early Sunday morning. Even with the bad time slot, New Japan did tremendous business in the 90s, before declining badly from 2000 to 2010, and then slowly climbing back to strong levels starting around 2011 with strong growth the past few years.

> The time slot actually dates back to 1958, when NTV aired Rikidozan’s Japan Pro Wrestling television show in that time slot. NTV kept wrestling there until 1972, when they canceled it. NET, which is now TV-Asahi, which also aired Japan Pro Wrestling, stepped in and moved its show to the familiar time slot. In April 1973, after Inoki and Seiji Sakaguchi formed New Japan, NET, which had a relationship with Inoki since he was used as the top star on their television shows when he was with Japan Pro Wrestling, it became the New Japan time slot.

> Harold Meij put the new deal together which gives the company its strongest television time slot in decades. Part of the deal is that no planned blood is allowed on the show, although the bloodbath Tetsuya Naito vs. KENTA match may be allowable since the blood was not planned. Those in New Japan believe that being back in prime time will help create a new fan base.

> There are six network stations in Japan, with TV Asahi being one of them, which each has its BS (broadcast satellite) station. About 70 percent of the homes in Japan can get the BS stations, roughly the same percentage of U.S. homes that get cable. Unlike in the U.S., where the gap between the network stations and cable stations in penetration is getting larger, in Japan it is getting smaller. But most BS shows are rerun programs of the parent station and movies, with not a lot of original programming. They are still regarded as minor league stations by many. The new time slot is far superior to the late night slot, and will reach a larger audience. But the networks don’t see the BS shows as significant competition, We’re told the show would only become a big deal in the grand scheme of things on Japanese television if TV Asahi and Bushiroad put big money into the promotion of the show, to overcome the idea it’s on a minor league channel.
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Poison Sawada JULIE - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 22:05:57 EST z+c6DKUE No.6357925 Reply
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> A second announcement is that New Japan will promote its biggest event for the remainder of 2020, Wrestle Dynasty, on 8/22 in Madison Square Garden. The show will take place on the same weekend as SummerSlam, which will take place the next day in Boston. But it will go head-to-head with the NXT Takeover show in Boston. It also comes two weeks before All Out 2 in Chicago. The idea is that New Japan will present a card equivalent to a WrestleKingdom. That would seem to mean an IWGP title match involving Tetsuya Naito, Kazuchika Okada, Kota Ibushi, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Jay White or Will Ospreay would be put on top. Because G-1 is being moved to the fall due to the Olympics, it would be the last major event before G-1, and follow Dominion, which takes place 6/16 in Osaka.

> As things stand right now, neither Jon Moxley or Chris Jericho would be allowed to appear on the show as their AEW deal only allows for them to work for New Japan in Japan. It’s notable that after all the pressure coming from the WWE side, that in the end, Madison Square Garden gave them this date. New Japan had planned on announcing this show on 1/5 at the Tokyo Dome, but it wasn’t finalized until recently for the obvious issues.

> The combined New Japan and ROH show sold out the MSG this past April, and it was very clear it was New Japan, and not ROH, that was the key. It is the only non-WWE show in North American pro wrestling history ever to do a $1 million gate. But when tickets were sold, Kenny Omega was the IWGP champion. There was also a huge amount of scalper interest in the show, as it was the first non-McMahon family promoted pro wrestling event in MSG since 1960. As it turned out, it was a soft secondary market, so scalpers may not be as apt to buy in this time. There are a lot of questions that will be answered regarding the interest level in the U.S. of a pure New Japan show without any major American names as well as a second show in the building as opposed to a first. Going against NXT, even if it’s four hours away, is also legit competition for some of the some of the same fans. Most likely NXT will get a jump by putting tickets on sale first.

> The XFL debuted this past week to what I’d call very impressive numbers, and also positive reaction. Unlike the first incarnation, which was treated as a laughing stock after a few weeks due to terrible (for the time) prime time ratings, this league, basically marketing straight football with no gimmicks, was covered like a legitimate major league sport with scores read on sports radio and ESPN SportsCenter. While the ratings were not much higher than the AAF debuted with in its first week (2.9 million for AAF, 3.3 million for XFL), the XFL had a better station lineup with FOX, ABC, ESPN and FS 1 all having games.

> The first XFL debuted to 14.1 million viewers, and even in its worst weeks was hitting about three million on NBC, but the UPN and Spike numbers were awful. There was a lot of hype on the first game, people tuned out as the game went on, and ratings plummeted.

> Here the ratings were very good for all four games. The AAF had the big first week, but didn’t have anywhere near the buzz coming out of it. The XFL ended up being the most searched topic on Google over the weekend aside from the Oscars with four million searches, beating the 2.1 million of UFC 247.

> The debut game on Saturday at 2 p.m. on ABC did 3,302,000 viewers with Seattle vs. DC. The second Saturday game on FOX at 5 p.m. with Los Angeles vs. Houston did 3,290,000 viewers. The early Sunday game on FOX at 2 p.m. with Tampa Bay and New York, did 3,385,000 viewers, while the Sunday at 5 p.m. game on ESPN did 2,495,000 viewers, which is understandable with ESPN being in far fewer homes than FOX and ABC.

> The long-term goal for success would be if the network games average 1.5 million viewers and the games on ESPN and FS 1 end up at 700,000. The expectation is a big drop over the next few weeks and by week three or four things would settle in. The first game was going to do well out of curiosity, and the 3.3 million is very good, but as noted, the AAF opened at 2.9 million so it’s not all that different and was about what should have been expected given this league came in with more hype than last year’s league. For that reason, there were media predictions of 4 million for the opening game but I felt that was high.

> The good sign was that they were able to hit that same level for the second game, and more importantly the Sunday games. That was the big story here. Basically it said the first day numbers were more than just a one-time novelty of people checking something out once out of curiosity and moving on. The FOX 5 p.m. game on Saturday did 1,418,000 viewers in the 18-49 demo while the FOX 2 p.m. Sunday game did 1,336,000, the ABC game on Saturday did 1,366,000 and the ESPN game did 1,211,000.

> Because the league was more organized and had hired Elevate Sports Ventures to hire sales staffs well ahead of time, the league is said to have already, through season tickets, sold more tickets for this season than the AAF did even though AAF claimed more.

> The league is projecting doing attendance figures of 15,000 to 20,000 per game. The first weekend average of 17,455 was less than the AAF’s first week of 19,210. The first XFL averaged 35,115 in week one, but it came in with so much more hype, and also all three of these numbers came with booker papering. But Seattle and St. Louis came into the season having sold more than 10,000 season tickets.

> The XFL expenses are going to be much higher than the AAF, but they have stable financial backing from McMahon and going into this project he was expecting to lose $125 million for the first three years while on these TV deals. When you look at the TV marketplace, if they can maintain numbers anywhere close to this, they may be able to renegotiate to a paying television deal far sooner than three years. But the expectation is the numbers will drop.

> The current TV deal is that FOX, FS 1, ABC and ESPN are paying $400,000 per game for production which they will cover, but the XFL is getting no money for television, which is a deal that makes it impossible for the company to do anything but lose huge amounts of money. The idea, which was the same as Al Haymon had when he bought time for Premier Boxing, was that in this case, you get television on good stations, prove you can draw ratings, and make stars, and then you negotiate for rights fees with a track record.

> FOX and ABC/ESPN are both looking for live sports, since that’s ESPN’s backbone and FOX has both a sports station and the mentality that live sports are the future of television. Nobody was willing to pay money given the track record of the first XFL, but the value of the first week numbers for future television is very strong. The fact TNT was willing to change its deal so quickly with AEW for much lower numbers tells you how big a success this will be even they maintain at a level half this.

> Of course the first XFL ended up leveling off at less than one-fourth the numbers of week one for the NBC game. And the AAF dropped significantly after the first week as well.

> According to Las Vegas sources, the XFL games did equivalent to a major conference college basketball game when it came to gambling numbers. Again, the first week can be an outlier and week three would really be the best to get a handle on this. The success or failure would depend on the ability to get a $125 million a year deal between the parties for 43 games over 12 weeks. When you consider what WWE has gotten for pro wrestling for 51 or 52 weeks per year, and what UFC has gotten for 42 shows per year from ESPN (although they overpaid to get the streaming rights to build ESPN+), and the UFC ratings were considerably lower than this on ESPN, the first week can’t be looked at as anything but a huge success.
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Poison Sawada JULIE - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 22:07:41 EST z+c6DKUE No.6357926 Reply
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> Bill Goldberg’s latest WWE return will be for the 2/27 Super Showdown event in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, at the International Arena at The Boulevard, where he will face Bray Wyatt for the Universal title.

> It’s going to be a tough match to put together, although it no doubt will be kept short. The problem is that Goldberg isn’t good in a match where he has to sell much, and Wyatt’s gimmick is based on not selling big moves. Previously on his WWE run, Goldberg had been a Paul Heyman project, starting with carefully crafting his matches and interviews to do a program with Brock Lesnar. That was supposed to be his retirement run, but it got over so big and he still looked the part, so Heyman, when he was put in control of Raw, wanted Goldberg to be his late 1970s Bruno Sammartino, who would come back every once in a while to pop ratings and vanquish a heel. The idea, like with Sammartino, is that he wouldn’t lose until his finite time ended to where you couldn’t do the role.

> Of course, his most memorable, for all the wrong reasons, match since the Lesnar program was the match with Undertaker in Saudi Arabia, one of the worst big show matches in recent memory. Goldberg lost that one, which he had to, because Vince McMahon would never book Goldberg, a WCW guy, to beat Undertaker, his most enduring headliner.

> The sad part of this is when it became apparent Goldberg was facing Wyatt, it also became clear that there would be more interest in Goldberg vs. Roman Reigns at WrestleMania for the title than Wyatt in the spot, even though Wyatt has been pushed in his Fiend character as an unbeatable monster. The plan originally was still Wyatt vs. Reigns and Goldberg was only scheduled for Saudi Arabia. But his return to television showed he still had a level of ratings juice, at least at first, that nobody else on the roster has. It also says volumes about the ability to create a star now. Bringing someone back based on a huge run nearly 22 years ago outshines the guy protected more in booking than anyone else who is also the company’s top merchandise seller.

> The show, which will air on a Thursday at Noon Eastern, right now has five matches listed. Wyatt vs. Goldberg for the Universal title is clearly the big match. Brock Lesnar will also defend the WWE title against Ricochet, and Lesnar’s most exciting matches have been with smaller high flyers. The other top match is a Reigns vs. King Corbin cage match.

> Also announced is New Day defending the Smackdown tag team titles against The Miz & John Morrison, and a six-man gauntlet series (meaning five matches in theory) from Raw for the Tuwaiq Trophy. The match has A.J. Styles, Andrade, Bobby Lashley, Rusev, Erick Rowan and R-Truth. Rusev being announced for the show is not a sign that his contract issues are settled, but he still has plenty of time left on his current deal. Andrade’s suspension ends the day before the show so he won’t be on television promoting this.

> With Seth Rollins not in that match, it does leave a spot for a tag team title match. Smackdown made it clear that a Braun Strowman vs. Shinsuke Nakamura IC title match would be on an upcoming PPV show.

> Dr. Wagner Jr., who headlined the last three of the last four TripleMania shows (including the second show last year in Monterrey), has left the promotion. We don’t have details but he said last week he was leaving and going independent, but he’s said a lot of things. But those in AAA confirmed his leaving during the week. His last show was scheduled to be the 2/7 tapings in Queretaro in a six-man tag main event, but he didn’t appear and Laredo Kid took his place. Wagner, who is 54, headlined TripleMania shows (including the recent one in Monterrey), in particular for huge matches where he lost his mask to Psycho Clown and his hair to Blue Demon Jr.

> Unlike it the past, the departure was not on bad terms. Wagner saw with Rush & L.A. Park in, that they were going to be the focal point of the promotion and get the big push, and he could either constantly put them over or be moved to the undercard. Previous to that, he and Demon were the focal points of the main events for months. So he felt it was the time to go back to the indies where his name is such that he’ll always be on top and in control of his bookings. The feeling is that at some point when he wants to be refreshed to the current audience by being back on television, and if he’s gone for a while he can be brought back as a big return on top, that he’ll be back. It’s kind of been his M.O. for some time

> There is an interesting thing going on regarding some of the talent like Taurus, El Hijo del Vikingo, Laredo Kid and others. AAA right now has business relationships with AEW, Impact and MLW. That in and of itself is difficult because MLW realizes it has no leverage and doesn’t insist on exclusivity, Impact doesn’t really want them dealing MLW but knows they can’t try and push them not to deal with AEW. AEW hasn’t forced them not to deal with anyone else but at times has muscled them regarding Impact guys on their shows that AEW would be on. Impact did for a time push for them not to use Killer Kross when he was under contract to them but they were at the impasse. Anyway, AAA wants the guys who are great workers to sign a U.S. deal but their own stability.

> Impact, AEW and MLW all run very few dates, so if they sign with those groups, AAA can still use them on pretty much all their TV tapings, maybe every now and then there’s a conflict but usually not. But what it does is solidify their guys being in the U.S., which is now the goal for a lot of the younger talent and where there is more money, but keeps them from going to WWE, which will sign anyone with talent to stockpile, but if they do, then AAA can’t use them anymore. For obvious reasons, AEW has the edge and priority, but AEW isn’t in the mode of signing everyone with talent. They’ve slowed down on new people because they don’t have enough TV to feature all the guys they have. So they aren’t rushing to sign new guys, even Vikingo. MLW and Impact have interest in signing those guys

> They are turning the incident with Konnan and Leon Negro, who will be called Psicosis or Psicosis II, into an angle. I guess the feeling was that it got so much publicity that it was the right thing for business. It sets a terrible precedent, and I’m not sure how you monetize it since I don’t see it really meaning business. Plus the last thing you want to encourage is guys attacking someone publicly thinking that it’s shooting their own angle to get a job. The deal is there was a video that circulated with him as Psicosis II talking with Hugo Savinovich. It’s done to make it was being secretly filmed and it was another shoot release
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Poison Sawada JULIE - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 22:09:56 EST z+c6DKUE No.6357929 Reply
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> Although it was largely kept quiet, Tetsuya Naito worked much of last year with double vision and even triple vision from an eye injury. He had surgery to correct the issue quietly

> Regarding the most recent U.S. tour that was the worst tour for business New Japan has had in the modern regime, where, as noted, the crowds listed here were actual total numbers in the building and not paid (the Japanese numbers are paid), so you can probably subtract 100 or so from each event to get paid, based on what we’ve heard from those involved on the ground locally, they felt ticket prices were too high for the names delivered. Other say the problem was the lack of local advertising. The problem is that New Japan as a niche product is really not going to draw based on mainstream advertising. If New Japan had TV that would push the show it would help a lot.

> There are enough New Japan fans in the U.S. to pack a building for a major show, and some markets have enough to draw a few thousand for a loaded show, but really if you run a tour in the Southeast, you are only going to get a few hundred people right now. It’s not a few years ago when they had the key Americans who can draw, and Tetsuya Naito isn’t as hot in the U.S. as he was when his T-shirts were selling well. They had Hiroshi Tanahashi and Kota Ibushi. Kazuchika Okada is probably the biggest right now along with Naito and maybe Ibushi and Will Ospreay and Minoru Suzuki, but even so, it’s hard with high ticket prices unless it’s a loaded up show. All the reports were the show quality itself was strong

> The announcement of a new NJPW dojo in New Zealand is actually a rebranding of Bad Luck Fale’s gym in Auckland. They will continue to use the Fale Dojo name in Auckland but it’ll be called the NJPW New Zealand dojo outside of its home area

> Harold Meij was featured on NHK, the leading network in Japan on its TV show “The Human.” It would be equivalent to a feature on Vince McMahon or Dana White on 60 Minutes as it’s the most popular news show of its type in Japan.

> Photos for the upcoming “Suicide Squad” movie strongly hints, based on the drawings and face, body and tattoos, that Dave Benthusiasta could be playing the character Bane

> El Hijo del Santo, speaking on the 36th anniversary of the death of his father, said it is very important to him that somebody carries on the Santo name in wrestling. He then suggested that it doesn’t have to be his son, and maybe it could be his daughter. He said that his daughter hasn’t trained for wrestling, but is training MMA. His son had started wrestling to much fanfare, but hasn’t had a match in more than a year and noted his son is working on getting his degree. He said that he doesn’t rule out returning to CMLL, but knocked the booking there saying they need people in charge with fresh ideas and they do the same thing forever. He also noted that the changes in the costume of Diamond (which was made to resemble El Santo) was forced by his lawyers

> Bryan Clark Jr., who also wrestled as Adam Bomb, has been charged with conspiracy, illegal control of enterprise, transporting or selling narcotics, drug possession and possessing a weapon during a drug offense in situations that allegedly took place last January and April. Clark Jr., 55, and Dennis Miccolis, 73, who was a keyboard player for the band The Buckinghams, were both charged. Clark’s attorneys claimed the police report contained facts that were grossly misconstrued and incorrect. They claimed Clark was targeted due to his notoriety and friends

> NWA women’s champion Thunder Rosa was the victim of a hit-and-run accident on 2/12. She went on social media saying she would sell some of her gear to raise money to fix her car. For popular women wrestlers, particularly the ones who have good bodies, selling of their gear to fans has become an underground way to make money. Others have been able to make real good money by posting sexy photos on Instagram

> Former wrestler Natalie Marie Coyle (Eva Marie), best known for Total Divas and attempts to make a star out of her as a wrestler, got a lot of attention for claiming gender discrimination when she was kicked out of a business class lounge for Quantas Airlines at the Melbourne, Australia airport on 1/16. Coyle and her husband were traveling and has business class tickets but was not allowed to enter the lounge because she was wearing a bright orange outfit that was basically tight sweat pants and a tight sweatshirt.

> She posted they wouldn’t let her in because of what she was wearing. The airport’s website did say head-to-toe gym wear is prohibited in the Qantas airport lounge. Coyle said the problem wasn’t so much that she wasn’t allowed in, but the double standard because her husband was. Her husband was allowed in wearing shorts and a T-shirt, which technically wouldn’t be gym wear. It got attention largely because she was a former WWE star and it gave news services a chance to show a photo of her in what she was wearing

> Noelle Foley, 26, has been suffering from post-concussion issues that are not getting better according to boyfriend Frank the Clown. He said that she got a concussion five months ago but didn’t say where it came from, that they didn’t want to go public with it but were hoping that maybe doing so would lead someone to be able to help her out. He said she’s been very limited on social media because it makes her headaches worse
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Poison Sawada JULIE - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 22:12:48 EST z+c6DKUE No.6357930 Reply
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> MLW have inked a deal with Webedia, a streaming platform in France, to air the weekly show at 9 pm. Local time on Monday nights

> Puma King and Arez were both advertised for last week’s show in Philadelphia. According to one side, Puma King was advertised but they never bought him a flight or attempted to contract him. MLW said Puma King had a visa issue and others have said similar that it just expired, and as with L.A. Park until recently, it seems to take forever to get things like that taken care of due to our current administration. Arez was also said to be a visa issue by one source and immigration issue, or a communications issue. Puma King actually now lives in San Diego and works U.S. indies all the time, as well as works in Mexico for AAA. Arez has also worked indies of late for Gamechanger and in Texas.

> Others said Arez, who works for AAA, had asked for help from Konnan to get more U.S. bookings. Konnan tried to get him to come to MLW. He was announced in early January for a middleweight title match with Myron Reed. Those close to Arez say he found out about it on Twitter and was never directly contacted or confirmed, and had already made a booking in Monterrey the same night. He told Konnan who told him to cancel Monterrey, and after talking to Konnan on 1/25, he did. A few days later, when he said he didn’t get a ticket he decided to work the RIOT show and Konnan told him to come to MLW.

> Another version is that he was concerned about immigration and wanted to walk across the border, and then fly from the U.S., which is easier than flying from Mexico because of all the issues where people question you about coming to the U.S. so often. One version was that at one point it got heated to where they had a falling out over it and Arez thought he was fired from AAA, but Konnan apologized to him and said he wasn’t fired but to come to MLW. He was absolutely afraid he would lose his job in AAA if he didn’t go, but he didn’t go and didn’t lose his job. He did get an MLW ticket three days out but worked the Monterrey show. Right now he believes everything is cool with AAA and he is booked on the 3/21 show in Guadalajara and it seems there is no issue with AAA, but MLW has no interest now in working with him and the proposed contract offer was pulled from the table. One report is that he only had a tourist visa, not a working visa, which is why he wanted to go to the U.S. and fly from the U.S., where there would be no issues, as opposed to flying into the U.S.

> At some point with a tourist visa people may start asking questions when you are repeatedly going to the U.S. When I used to cover wrestling in Mexico regularly, I was always asked why you had so many one day trips to Mexico and was at times getting hassled over it. As happened with Mike Bailey, if you are going to the U.S. to work, while 95 percent or more of the time it’s not an issue, the one time it becomes one and you are caught, you can’t come back for five years. MLW ended up losing money on a non-refundale plane ticket. Laredo Kid was then contacted about two days before by Konnan and talked into coming as a replacement. He did well at the show and is being brought back for 4/18

> Kellyanne Salter from Australia should be starting at ROH soon. She’s likely being brought in as an attempt to revamp the women’s side of things. The title, vacated when the decision was made not to renew the contract of Kelly Klein, will be changed to the ROH Women’s World championship with a 16 woman tournament that starts with the first round on 4/24 in Philadelphia. What is notable is with eight matches, the show will have to be a predominately women’s card, being called Quest for the Gold. Salter is tentatively set to debut over WrestleMania week

> A correction from last week. The woman who played the role of Trey Miguel’s mother in the angle with Ace Austin is still working for Impact behind the scenes. She will no longer be a character on television as they have closed off that storyline and right now Austin is building for something with Blanchard

> Ring announcer David Penzer will return for the TNA reunion show

> AEW announced a second show in Boston on 4/15 and a second show in Philadelphia on 4/22, at the Agannis Arena and the Licouras Center. That will be interesting because it’s a major market test of a second show after the first show, which was the company’s second and third television shows on 10/9 and 10/16. Both of those sold out on the first day, in both cases coming off the giant demand in Chicago, the ticket brokers jumped on Washington, Boston and Philadelphia. Boston would have sold out instantly either way, but a second show is a different animal and more of a test on how business will be consistently down the line.

> Another interesting note is that Raw will be in Providence, which isn’t far from Boston, on 4/13, two days earlier. Tickets for those shows, as well as the Double or Nothing II PPV on 5/23 in Las Vegas were all to go on sale on 2/14. Double or Nothing had a strong pre-sale on 2/13 and was expected to be sold out on the first day tickets go on sale to the public. Newark will sell out or come close as they have about 1,000 tickets left. Broomfield, CO and Independence, MO also have a shot at selling out, and will come close as both have less than 1,000 tickets left. Atlanta is nowhere close with about 4,800 tickets sold

> The story with Cobb is that he’s still a free agent and only has agreed at this point to do the program with Moxley. It’s interesting that they were willing to use an ROH guy (Cobb never signed a new ROH contract so he can work wherever he wants) for a short-term program. They used footage to introduce him from All Pro Wrestling rather than ROH or NJPW, which was also telling about relationships. Cobb has been offered a deal by Cody but his goal is working as much New Japan as he can right now

> Starting with Full Gear, the PPVs will be broadcast in German and air in some form in that country

> Brandi Rhodes was on Wrestling Observer Live talking about the Nightmare Collective. She said the videos she put together were designed to write her out of that storyline. She said that she felt herself it wasn’t clicking for her and the fans felt the same way. She didn’t rule out the Nightmare Collective group continuing, although with Awesome Kong leaving to film the next season of GLOW, that would seem to be the case for the time period. She said she made the decision to make the change

> AEW is pulling some but not all of its talent from WrestleCon, even those who were in just to sign autographs
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Poison Sawada JULIE - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 22:15:15 EST z+c6DKUE No.6357931 Reply
>>6357924
> There is still not a full explanation as to why Michelle Wilson and George Barrios were fired. Within the company it was said that they were against the idea of signing up talent that wasn’t being used and the much higher talent expenses to keep anyone and everyone from leaving, which lowered the profit margin that Wall Street was expecting from the big TV windfall, and thus made the stock price not hold. From Vince’s standpoint, I can see it. You can see he still remembers the WCW situation, where WWF had such a lead and WCW was always floundering as a business in comparison, and then suddenly he was No. 2. And if not for Steve Austin and the sheer incompetence of those in charge of WCW being so out of touch with their audience, he could have lost that war. McMahon’s feeling in hindsight was always that WCW nearly beat him with his own creations, Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Randy Savage, Roddy Piper and so many others. So the idea is not to let that repeat itself

> Cena returns on the 2/28 Smackdown show and has already said he’s free to wrestle at WrestleMania. Cena’s role is said to be locked in for the show

> As of right now, the plans for the 3/8 Elimination Chamber PPV will be Reigns, Corbin, Bryan, Strowman, Nakamura and Roode in a Chamber match with the winner getting a shot at Wyatt at WrestleMania. Those names may change and probably will. We were told that the ad has placeholders in the sense Reigns is probably a lock but they haven’t decided on the others and was told there is a solid chance some of these names will change. They were just looking to advertise a men’s chamber match for a title shot locally in Philadelphia to move tickets. Right now Reigns would be the scheduled winner since Wyatt vs. Reigns has been earmarked for the match but again, nothing happens until it happens

> The scalper market for WrestleMania for the bleacher seats is weak as they aren’t selling and the show isn’t sold out. I was told you can get some of the cheaper seats now below face value. Scalpers have really had troubles with wrestling of late, as they miss on the few shows with demand for the most part, and overbuy on the shows you think would but don’t. I spoke to someone in the ticket business and it was more on AEW on how they completely missed on the Chicago sellouts, but then went crazy for the Washington, DC, Philadelphia and Boston and took major baths on two of the three

> WWE has been making overtures to some U.S. indie companies regarding tape libraries for new network content. This isn’t new and was part of the premium tier idea, but with the new idea, nobody knows what that means for the tiers idea

> The story going around about Brie & Nikki Bella and Jushin Liger as being in the 2020 WWE Hall of Fame class is accurate as of right now. The Bellas make sense as WWE unwritten rules are that a woman has to go in every year and they’ve both just retired, and it makes sense to put them in together. Liger is an interesting one but he’s probably as far as a true pro wrestling Hall of Fame is concerned, would be among the most deserving of anyone in the last 40 years. He only worked one match for WWE in his career, on an NXT Takeover against Tyler Breeze, but he did just retire and his name is pretty well known in the U.S. One would expect both announcements imminently

> Lynch has said that she believes she should be the highest paid person in WWE, including Vince McMahon. Historically when it comes to pro wrestling, the biggest star has always taken the highest salary, and for that matter, when it comes to straight salary, the top talent was always paid more than Vince, who made his money over the past two decades far more on paying himself stock dividends than his salary. Lynch and Flair are believed to be the two highest paid women in the company, with the belief each signed a $1 million guarantee. There are a number of male wrestlers who earn more, including some who earn more just for appearing in Saudi Arabia like Lesnar and Goldberg as well as outside celebrities like Tyson Fury who earned more than that for one match. Edge just signed what was believed to be a $3 million per year three-year deal as a part-timer. The top male stars earn will upwards of $5 million per year.

> She told Scott Fishman at TV Insider, “I should be making more in that whole company, everybody, Vince McMahon included," she said. "I want to change the game. I want to prove that it doesn’t matter your gender, your race, your background, if you are doing the job and keeping people invested, if you are keeping people interested, then you deserve to be paid at a level higher than anybody else.” “Or as high as anybody else. As high as the best of them. I look around the arenas and the majority of the people are in my shirts. The majority of people hold signs for me, so pay me as such and that will be the way it will be.” “It’s about what is most interesting. If that’s the case, then let’s put that there," she explained. "We need to get out of the old thinking of, `Oh, we’ve already seen a women’s segment or two women’s segments.’ We can leave that back in the '80s.”

> Since a lot of the pay is based on positioning on cards, and she’s high and at times has headlined, and at Mania this past year she deserved to have been paid the same as Rousey and those two more than anyone else on the show, she really should be up with the top people. Merch pay doesn’t batter based on sex, but on what you sell. Usually the women don’t main event the house shows, but the reality is the house show main events aren’t what draws anymore and the top people should be paid basically the same

> Since this question has been asked, I was told there is no chance the Rhea Ripley vs. Charlotte Flair NXT women’s title match takes place on Takeover and that it is a lock for Mania. As much a lock as anything because everything is up to change in this company

> The angle where Orton did the one man concerto to Matt Hardy was meant to be Hardy’s blow off, although it was also a way to keep Edge out selling the impact of his injuries for another week while giving Orton a strong segment. WWE doesn’t want to lose anyone so the Hardy situation is interesting. Hardy is 45, so in another era Vince would just let him go, but after Jericho and Dustin Rhodes, I don’t think that would be the decision today. But Hardy is financially set for life. The one thing is with making money and never being used, he gets a lot of time with his family. But he’s also a guy at this stage who wants to be creative, and he won’t get that on the main roster and Vince never went for his gimmick even though he gave it a chance.

> The one thing is I could see sending him to NXT because he’s a legit name who would mean something there and could work with the younger talent as a way of keeping him. If not, one would think he’s AEW bound and would probably be a featured player there. Because he’s set for life and in the past has chosen creativity over money, it’s not like it’s one of those guys who looks at the money figure and goes this makes a difference later in life and need to take it. Plus, he’ll make good money wherever he goes, but to me the options are either WWE sending him to NXT or him going to AEW because ROH may spend for him and he’s had issues with Impact management and both ROH and Impact at this point may be too under the radar for what he wants
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Poison Sawada JULIE - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 22:17:40 EST z+c6DKUE No.6357933 Reply
>>6357924
> With Vince at one point playing the card that the other guys are blood and guts, it really speaks of Heyman selling the Baszler angle on him with all the blood, whether stage blood or not, the idea of biting the back of someone’s head or neck and having that much blood comes across as more blood and guts than back cuts from barbed wire or standard forehead blood from a blade. One of Heyman’s idols as a kid was Fred Blassie, whose gimmick was biting and was nicknamed “The Vampire.” This was clearly inspired by Blassie, in particular how over Blassie got in Japan from biting the Great Togo in one of the most memorable and talked about segments ever on Japanese television.

> Three elderly people legitimately died from heart attacks and it was a major news story in Japan and was covered as a news story in the U.S at the time as well. Blassie later exaggerated the story to that in all the years he wrestled in Japan, he caused 97 people to die of shock from his biting and considered it a failure because his goal was to hit 100, It was actually Togo who he bit but most remember that story as being with Rikidozan, since Rikidozan was his big rival at the time

> MVP is being transitioned into a producer role. The segment on Raw was not necessarily meant to be a regular thing, but he was so good in the role that since he’s going to be working for the company most likely, it’s something they can use whenever they need it

> Jon Jones told Sports Illustrated that he thinks it’s inevitable he will work for WWE some day. “I think it’s inevitable. I’ve always respected WWE, and I feel like the sports can be so similar.” “I have the size and athleticism and the following to transition over really well. To get the opportunity to just show up, even as a special guest, would be a dream come true.

> Regarding U.K. ratings, they were expected to drop with the move from Sky to BT, which is in fewer homes. But the opposite has happened as BT has made promotion of WWE a priority, something Sky hasn’t done for years and the numbers are up from the past two or so years. For the week ending on 2/2, Raw did 75,800 viewers live, Smackdown did 111,000 viewers while NXT did 12,600 viewers. MLW on Freesports did 16,800 viewers that week. AEW on ITV did about 100,000 viewers this past week which is much lower than they started out at, which was nearly 300,000.

> The first week of Raw and Smackdown on TV 5 did 200,000 and 100,000 respectively. So the idea that AEW would dominate viewing numbers, which was the case when WWE was on Sky, is no longer the case with the WWE move to BT and the new deal with 5. However regarding overnight numbers for this past week, they listed AEW on ITV 4 at 45,000 for the first airing on 2/7, Impact of 5 Star did 59,000, Raw on BT on 2/3 did 4,000 and on 2/10 did 24,000. Smackdown didn’t even register the last two weeks (meaning in theory less than 1,000 viewers) this past week

> Lindell Train Ltd., now has 9,036,138 shares of WWE stock, making them likely the biggest shareholder except for Vince McMahon. They would own roughly 12 percent of the company. The Vanguard Group has 4,325,640 shares

> TMZ reported that Alexa Bliss is now dating singer and songwriter Ryan Cabrera

> The reason the match on the 2/5 NXT show with Jordan Devlin and Tyler Breeze seemed long is because it was long. They were evidently running short (usually it’s the opposite) and the two had the lengthen their match. It felt too long for Devlin’s NXT debut as champion

> Due to a building conflict during Full Sail Hall of Fame week, the 3/11 NXT show will have to be taped somewhere other than Full Sail University. They’ve put tickets on sale for every Wednesday through 4/8 with the exception of 3/11. WWE has not yet announced the location for that show

> CNN actually covered the hiring of Aja Smith as the company’s first-ever female African-American referee

> Taynara Conti, the Brazilian judo pin-up girl before being signed, has left the promotion for now. She walked out on 1/15 prior to the Battle Royal that she was scheduled to be part of. There were reports of it being a money issue. She is still under contract

> Jorge Alcantar, the former El Hijo del Fantasma and King Cuerno, who was just cleared after knee surgery, is scheduled to debut in NXT as Jorge Bolley, in a tag team with Raul Mendoza on 2/15 in Fort Pierce, FL

> WWE announced the Extreme Rules PPV would be 7/19 in San Jose. I saw the map for the ticket on sale and it was scary. They are only setting up at first for a very small number. The new thing with both WWE and AEW because the idea is you have to have sections packed for televised events, is you start to putting up only a small percentage of the sections and then as each section is full, then you open up the section, as opposed to the way other acts book where you put the entire building on sale

> The current edition of the 3/22 Madison Square Garden card is a six-man main event with Rollins & AOP vs. Owens & Joe & Show, plus Lynch vs. Asuka for the women’s title

> The most-watched shows on the WWE Network over the past week were: 1. Royal Rumble 2020; 2. Goldberg’s ten greatest jackhammers; 3. NXT from 2/5; 4. Smackdown highlights from 2/7; 5. Smackdown from 1/10; 6. WrestleMania 35; 7. WrestleMania 21
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Poison Sawada JULIE - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 22:20:00 EST z+c6DKUE No.6357936 Reply
>>6357924
NJPW NEW BEGINNING IN OSAKA STAR RATINGS:
> Manabu Nakanishi & Yuji Nagata & Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima beat Toa Henare & Togi Makabe & Tomoaki Honma & Ryusuke Taguchi in 7:08. **1/4
> Sho & Yoh retained the IWGP jr. tag titles over Desperado & Yoshinobu Kanemaru in 16:22. ***1/2
> Juice Robinson & David Finlay & Hiroshi Tanahashi & Kota Ibushi beat Tama Tonga & Tanga Loa & Yujiro Takahashi & Chase Owens in 10:50. ***
> Kazuchika Okada & Will Ospreay beat Zack Sabre Jr. & Taichi in 11:50. ***3/4
> Jay White beat Sanada in 21:52. ***1/4
> Hiromu Takahashi retained the IWGP jr. title over Ryu Lee in 23:54. ****3/4
> Jon Moxley retained the U.S. title over Minoru Suzuki in 17:18. ****1/2
> Tetsuya Naito retained both the IWGP and IC titles beating KENTA in 35:50. ****
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Elix Skipper - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 22:49:19 EST 0ia2DwE9 No.6357952 Reply
>>6357924
>possibly a PWG involvement
nothing irritates me more than dave sucking PWGs dick
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David Arquette - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 23:06:53 EST +9pCFlLB No.6357962 Reply
>>6357952
Dave sucking certain peoples dicks is the worst in general. The older he gets the more intense his dick sucking gets.

> The first week of Raw and Smackdown on TV 5 did 200,000 and 100,000 respectively. So the idea that AEW would dominate viewing numbers, which was the case when WWE was on Sky, is no longer the case with the WWE move to BT and the new deal with 5. However regarding overnight numbers for this past week, they listed AEW on ITV 4 at 45,000 for the first airing on 2/7, Impact of 5 Star did 59,000, Raw on BT on 2/3 did 4,000 and on 2/10 did 24,000. Smackdown didn’t even register the last two weeks (meaning in theory less than 1,000 viewers) this past week
So Impact beat Raw, Smackdown and AEW in the UK. Like they have been doing for a long time. Might be small numbers but this is still hilarious to me. LOLWWE

> A correction from last week. The woman who played the role of Trey Miguel’s mother in the angle with Ace Austin is still working for Impact behind the scenes. She will no longer be a character on television as they have closed off that storyline and right now Austin is building for something with Blanchard
As usual. The correction.
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Big Daddy V - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 23:28:57 EST JC9WWRCu No.6357968 Reply
Foley’s kid already having concussion issues, damn. Frank the Clown is gonna rip her ear off any day now.
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Carl Oullette - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 23:50:01 EST BlrIoG3o No.6357978 Reply
> AEW is pulling some but not all of its talent from WrestleCon, even those who were in just to sign autographs

Change the world!
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Jorge Skayde Rivera - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 23:57:39 EST D6njVhGS No.6357982 Reply
>>6357931
> Jon Jones told Sports Illustrated that he thinks it’s inevitable he will work for WWE some day.
>“I think it’s inevitable.
> I’ve always respected WWE,
> and I feel like the sports can be so similar.”
> “I have the size and athleticism and the following to transition over really well.
>To get the opportunity to just show up, even as a special guest, would be a dream come true.
based bones jones comin’ for Brock’s title
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Daisuke Sekimoto - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 00:01:41 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6357983 Reply
>>6357978
>Sign contract with specific terms and conditions
>Company exercises these terms and conditions
>This is a bad thing

>>6357936
>Mox vs Suzuki that high
Christ Meltz
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Carl Oullette - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 00:54:33 EST BlrIoG3o No.6358002 Reply
>>6357983
>Company exercises these terms and conditions
how did they get booked to the event in the first place then?
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Mickie James - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 01:32:05 EST /4InGriX No.6358018 Reply
Whenever I listen to WOR or WOL, I consider the few questions I'd like to ask Dave or Bryan. Just a few minor questions that I've been wondering for a long time that I'd just like to find out the answers to, but because the live show is on at an inconvenient time, and I don't care that much to make an effort to send them an email. None of it is that important to take time out of my life for.

I am seriously considering in taking a day off from work and wait on hold for an hour just to be able to tell Bryan directly how much Jim Valley fucking sucks to his goddamn face.
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Byron Saxton - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 02:34:47 EST PyS9Fi0w No.6358023 Reply
>>6357933
>King Cuerno/El Hijo Del Fantasma is scheduled to debut in NXT as Jorge Bolley
HAHAHAHAHA
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Ultimate Warrior - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 06:51:02 EST zVSMKZyQ No.6358041 Reply
>Noelle Foley, 26, has been suffering from post-concussion issues that are not getting better according to boyfriend Frank the Clown. He said that she got a concussion five months ago but didn’t say where it came from, that they didn’t want to go public with it but were hoping that maybe doing so would lead someone to be able to help her out. He said she’s been very limited on social media because it makes her headaches worse

Someone to help her out? Like maybe a FUCKING DOCTOR? Or her own damn FATHER who has had probably 100 of these?
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Mo - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 07:39:21 EST RrhsVJPr No.6358044 Reply
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>>6357933
>El Hijo del Fantasma and King Cuerno, who was just cleared after knee surgery, is scheduled to debut in NXT as Jorge Bolley
>Jorge Bolley

textbook rent-a-jobber name
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Eli Cottonwood - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 07:44:41 EST GuyIt3KA No.6358045 Reply
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>For popular women wrestlers, particularly the ones who have good bodies, selling of their gear to fans has become an underground way to make money. Others have been able to make real good money by posting sexy photos on Instagram.
mans sending out a cosmic energy hail mary right here
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Chris Candido - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 07:47:59 EST LUMg+nxK No.6358046 Reply
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> Lynch has said that she believes she should be the highest paid person in WWE, including Vince McMahon.
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Zeus - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 08:03:30 EST tohb2a1F No.6358049 Reply
> “I have the size and athleticism and the following to transition over really well. To get the opportunity to just show up, even as a special guest, would be a dream come true.”

AKA fuck you, gimme that Lesnar money
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Dean Malenko - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 08:29:53 EST fGMH5tBO No.6358054 Reply
>>6358045
Luckily WWE needs Meltzer right now more than ever to generate interest in Wrestlemania, so they won't send out a company text telling people to tweet about it like last time.
Also the Cancel Culture fad is thankfully passing because people are so desensitized to it
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Atlantis - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 08:36:39 EST BxsoGG2K No.6358057 Reply
>>6358054
> WWE needs Meltzer right now more than ever to generate interest in Wrestlemania
oh this is funny
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Dean Malenko - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 08:39:00 EST fGMH5tBO No.6358059 Reply
>>6358057
And kind of scary WWE has gotten to a point where they need dirtsheets for people to care about their biggest show of the year because the TV product is so unwatchable
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Carl Oullette - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 08:58:08 EST BlrIoG3o No.6358061 Reply
In this week's episode of "It's Everybody's Fault Except Court's"...

>Puma King and Arez were both advertised for last week’s show in Philadelphia. According to one side, Puma King was advertised but they never bought him a flight or attempted to contract him.
>MLW said Puma King had a visa issue and others have said similar that it just expired, and as with L.A. Park until recently, it seems to take forever to get things like that taken care of due to our current administration. Arez was also said to be a visa issue by one source and immigration issue, or a communications issue.
>Puma King actually now lives in San Diego and works U.S. indies all the time, as well as works in Mexico for AAA. Arez has also worked indies of late for Gamechanger and in Texas.

>Others said Arez, who works for AAA, had asked for help from Konnan to get more U.S. bookings. Konnan tried to get him to come to MLW. He was announced in early January for a middleweight title match with Myron Reed.
>Those close to Arez say he found out about it on Twitter and was never directly contacted or confirmed, and had already made a booking in Monterrey the same night. He told Konnan who told him to cancel Monterrey, and after talking to Konnan on 1/25, he did. A few days later, when he said he didn’t get a ticket he decided to work the RIOT show and Konnan told him to come to MLW.
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Togi Makabe - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 11:06:14 EST Uz1bd5r7 No.6358083 Reply
>>6358046
Look at that. Is it time to knock somebody out of top time. I for one welcome our new womans champ shayna basler.
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Dr. Cube - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:20:38 EST QQesQNiH No.6358109 Reply
>>6358103
I gotta agree with it. WWE has hit a point where they know dirtsheets are the only thing keeping them relevant in the wrestling world. Hell, they literally just hired Ryan Satin because they knew he had a following and can drum up headlines for them that gain some traction with wrestling fans. Even weirder WWE knows people listen to the dirtsheets, even if the information is wrong, and specifically asked for Meltzer's opinion in a research group before moving to FOX. I think WWE needs to figure something out but relying on dirtsheet writers to help keep people engaged with your product is a bizarre route to say the least and shows how dire things are.
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Carl Oullette - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:36:08 EST BlrIoG3o No.6358114 Reply
>>6358109
>WWE has hit a point where they know dirtsheets are the only thing keeping them relevant in the wrestling world
uh.... like it or not, they still have the largest audience. And i don't think thats because of dirtsheets "keeping them relevant"
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David Arquette - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:39:53 EST +9pCFlLB No.6358115 Reply
>>6358109
Dirtsheets are not the only thing keeping WWE relevant wtf lmao. Only wrestling nerds read or listen to dirtsheets.
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Dr. Cube - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:49:57 EST QQesQNiH No.6358119 Reply
>>6358115
>>6358114
What exactly is keeping WWE relevant then? The product has been losing viewers at an alarming rate, triple than any show on TV. Like it or not, backstage news is the only thing people care about related to WWE right now, unless you can tell me what else is.
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Zeus - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:10:58 EST tohb2a1F No.6358124 Reply
>>6358119
They still command the most mainstream viewership. Wrestling as a whole isn’t relevant. Like at fucking at all.
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Earthquake - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:13:19 EST O6o0IXsR No.6358125 Reply
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>The angle where Orton did the one man concerto to Matt Hardy was meant to be Hardy’s blow off

P-p-plans change

That'll be $11.99 plus tip
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Carl Oullette - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:15:35 EST BlrIoG3o No.6358127 Reply
>>6358119
>What exactly is keeping WWE relevant then?
Its 3 shows broadcast on major television networks, its 50 year history synonymous with the concept of "pro wrestling," its litany of video games, toys, cereal boxes and merch, its rolodex of stars who have gone on to Hollywood success, its unprecedented reach around the globe?
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Zeus - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:20:48 EST tohb2a1F No.6358128 Reply
>>6358125
>inb4 how can Meltzer know what a product as chaotic as WWE doesn’t even know what it is doing?
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Mike Tenay - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:23:38 EST PEVc977E No.6358130 Reply
>>6358119
WWE's business is down in almost every metric outside of their TV deals, so not much is keeping them relevant.
But at the same time, no wrestling fed really needs dirtsheets to keep them relevant.
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Vito Thomaselli - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:26:59 EST zJpIeZWH No.6358132 Reply
>>6358128
>>6358125
But that's true. Look at the thing with Mojo and the other guy. It's extremely well-documented that things change on a week-to-week basis based on the whims of Vince/the writers.

Don't pretend there's any thought put into the narrative. How does it make sense for Hardy to be ready for a match already when Edge is still out?
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Zeus - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:40:32 EST tohb2a1F No.6358135 Reply
>>6358132
I’m not pretending anything. Journalists get shit wrong all the time, I don’t really see how Meltzer gets away with it as often. Maybe you’re right, maybe you’re not. Who cares?
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Taylor Wilde - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:44:48 EST JyJS6uUQ No.6358138 Reply
>>6358044
Jorge Bolley is his shoot name, they will give him a NXT generated name soon
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David Arquette - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:45:56 EST +9pCFlLB No.6358139 Reply
>>6358119
I'd even argue that shitty clickbait youtube channels like WhatCulture and Cultaholic are more popular than dirtsheets. Being on FOX and USA is a HUGE factor they are relevant. Making billion dollar Saudi deals is probably another huge reason. I can list more reasons but Dave Meltzer is so low on the fucking list.
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David Arquette - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:59:42 EST +9pCFlLB No.6358148 Reply
>>6358132
Meltzer has been making more mistakes in the past 3 or so years then he ever did before in his entire career. People are either A: feeding him bullshit and he is too old to realize he is being taken for a ride or B: not talking to him or Dave is just guessing stuff
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Carl Oullette - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 14:14:41 EST BlrIoG3o No.6358151 Reply
>>6358148
Some of his best sources back in the day were Jericho, JR, and Flair, and none of them are involved in the company. *Supposedly* the only person still feeding him news is Heyman.
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David Arquette - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 14:26:17 EST +9pCFlLB No.6358154 Reply
>>6358151
I'm sure he has some other people that talk to him besides just Heyman but yeah his WWE and Impact news are the least reliable. His AEW and NJPW stuff seems to be pretty on point though.
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Rorschach - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 14:30:03 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6358156 Reply
>>6358151
Vince talked to him as well, until, gasp, Meltzer reported something that made Vince look bad
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Carl Oullette - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 14:47:50 EST BlrIoG3o No.6358163 Reply
>>6358154
Also the corporate culture of WWE has just changed over time. I think Dave Lagana got fired back in the day because Stephanie was weeding out who was leaking to the sheets and he got caught.

WWE is a giant behemoth of a corporation with ties to Fox Sports, ESPN, Sports Illustrated, TMZ, the LA Times, etc. They hired Ryan Satin to be their "official" scoopz guy.

I just don't think Dave has the resources to really infiltrate the McMahon inner circle anymore.
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Hayabusa - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 15:14:39 EST q1GPoE8Z No.6358172 Reply
>>6358154
Dave never said it was a fact it was Hardy being written off. He assumed it was
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Francine - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 16:12:53 EST nJvTTxQp No.6358201 Reply
>>6358125
Plans literally did change, guess they thought they didn't bury him enough on the way out

>WWE has announced Randy Orton vs. Matt Hardy in a No Holds Barred Match for this Monday's Raw in Everett, Washington.

>PWInsider.com is told that creative direction was decided upon over the last 24 hours as Hardy was not originally slated for Raw and had even tweeted a goodbye message on social media.

>Hardy's current WWE deal, unless something changes, will expire on 3/1. As PWInsider.com has previously reported, the two sides have been at a stalemate regarding how Hardy would be used going forward if he signed a new deal. Financial terms have not been an issue, as PWInsider.com also previously reported.

>https://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=133870
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Darkness Crabtree - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 17:35:23 EST /YsP7rdR No.6358221 Reply
>>6358041
Not exactly the easiest job to find a good doctor a lot of the times, especially with neurological problems where it's difficult to prove and they just tell you "lol it's just psychosomatic". Putting out an open call for a specialist actually helps a lot of time.
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Justin Roberts - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 17:38:58 EST fK4x0NPt No.6358222 Reply
>>6358125
wwe's pettiness is so detrimental to their storytelling

Which is better? Randy kills a guy forever, or Randy can't hurt a guy enough to make him go away for more than a week?
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Robbie E - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 18:53:23 EST soBJaz4P No.6358245 Reply
Ends In a punt kick or no dice. Can he do the punt kick on tv anymore?
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 19:09:41 EST M1ahJWky No.6358249 Reply
>>6358154
don't forget Meltzer's legendary Joshi news, featuring such gems as "Riho's going to be an exclusive to Stardom" mere days before she was announced for a DDT show
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Shuri - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 19:34:04 EST 31j6lwPX No.6358261 Reply
>>6358259
Oh you're one of those gimmick posters from a-s-p trying to impress a bunch of people that don't give a single shit about you
My bad. Thought you were someone that mattered
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Mochi Miyagi - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 10:11:15 EST Er3OUSzB No.6358368 Reply
>>6357929
> For popular women wrestlers, particularly the ones who have good bodies, selling of their gear to fans has become an underground way to make money. Others have been able to make real good money by posting sexy photos on Instagram

Just described Mandy Rose to a T. She is always pushing a women's fitness clothing line. Not that I mind.
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Robbie E - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 11:51:41 EST fK4x0NPt No.6358407 Reply
>>6357929
> Photos for the upcoming “Suicide Squad” movie strongly hints, based on the drawings and face, body and tattoos, that Dave Benthusiasta could be playing the character Bane

What is Dave talking about here? Did he get worked by a shop?
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Hardcore Holly - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 12:12:31 EST G9cW5MRV No.6358417 Reply
>>6358407

No there were rumors Big Dave was up for a role because he likes working for James Gunn, but I think he was filming other stuff so it didn't work out.
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Super Strong Machine - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 13:21:44 EST PEVc977E No.6358469 Reply
>>6358462
It's a filter, but the way it was implemented was botched.
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Nunzio - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 13:36:58 EST lLyPkEhR No.6358479 Reply
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this thread is proof that the /wooo/rism industry needs to be shut down sooner than later.

and also that Big Dave needs to reassess what he considers news.
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Road Warrior Animal - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 14:41:16 EST 7crXGGUe No.6358511 Reply
Dave Benthusiasta is the best unintentional filter-related bullshit in the history of our sport.
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Mitch Ryder - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 14:53:10 EST D6njVhGS No.6358520 Reply
>>6358513
if you lack the mental clarity to find humor in technological advances proving science has truly gone too far then no youre just supposed to realize you’re an idiot and should feel stupid for not being able to laugh at something the rest of us know went far over your head. Pretty simple stuff, really, but you not getting it really is just adding to the humor of it all.


Man; is there any more of a buzzkill than having some dunce need a joke explained to them in the midst of group laughter only to realize they still dont get it? Here, hold this L, brah...
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Pete Rose - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 15:14:06 EST b7NZg4wN No.6358525 Reply
>>6358508
>links 1 guy with the same RNG and ID while thinking it's a group of "mongs" and "newfags"

pot meet kettle
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El Oriental - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 15:14:32 EST ZZv4bAy5 No.6358526 Reply
>>6358513
You have no idra what the filter is do you? Its not Batistas name that is filtered. Its Aughtism and aughtistic and aughtistic that are filtered. Holy shit. The Benthusiasta thing is a funny coincedence because the word is in his name. Do you understand yet?
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Mitch Ryder - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 15:23:26 EST D6njVhGS No.6358531 Reply
>>6358525
wow that’s even worse, dude didnt get it after 4 different times inquiring?
sorry idgaf enough to Check IDs on anonymous image boards buddy.
maybe I should put on the try-hard pants like everyone else seems to need around here lately...
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Aurora Rose Levesque - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 15:26:01 EST tJA/VqXd No.6358532 Reply
>>6358526
If people just spelled his name the way it is in WWE (Batista) they could avoid this mess
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Mitch Ryder - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 15:49:24 EST D6njVhGS No.6358543 Reply
>>6358532
> this mess
Unfortunately for you the real world goes by their actual names, and Dave is an actual real-world reported trusted and used as source for places like Sports illustrated//ESPN and more, so these threads are using his writings and not speaking in terms of a Kayfabe fake reality designed for simpletons and kids. Sorry to break it to ya but Batista isn’t how the name is actually spelt, so... enjoy the debauchery
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Eddie Kingston - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 18:11:39 EST dYhrmb6W No.6358589 Reply
>>6358532
Because there's a difference in Dave Bau.tista (the actor) and Batista (the wrestling character). Plus most uses of his real name are copy/pasting an actual article, which is always going to use his real name over his WWE name.
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Eddie Kingston - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 18:13:19 EST dYhrmb6W No.6358590 Reply
>>6358589
Forgot to add, an even easier way to avoid "this mess" would be if this board didn't have dozens of filters that turn normal posts into babbling word salad.
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Derek Sabato - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 19:20:10 EST +MoxwLS+ No.6358605 Reply
>>6358590
>>6358543
>>6358511
>>6358469
>>6358411

These guys are right, the filters have gone far enough and are now an impediment to other people navigating and enjoying the board.

Setting aside the whole 'though-police' aspect of filtering peoples speech, it's just serving as a barrier to newer anons and likely throttling the user base, hence the increasingly stagnant nature of discussions over the last couple of years.

I know some of you are hyper-focused on the "secret club" aspect of chan culture but I can tell you from observation and experience that it always leads to less traffic, poorer quality discussions, fewer threads, and eventually an unprofitable site which gets shut down. I don't want to see that again and I know you don't either. So why don't we remove the filters in an effort to promote user engagement with the site?

At the very least, can the filters be implemented better, so that they only filter out the actual words, rather than words-within-a-word (e.g. Benthusiasta)? All it would take is the filter to check for spaces either side of the actual word being filtered. People who are dead-set on circumventing the filter will still do it, as they do now, but at least it won't be so clunky.

tl;dr Orwell loves filters
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Bobby Fish - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 19:23:19 EST PEVc977E No.6358607 Reply
>>6358605
>Orwell loves filters
420chan has had filters for most of its existence, the only problem is that the recent ones are implemented like shit. Improve it so the crap that's meant to be filtered are the only things getting filtered & they'll be fine.
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Albert - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 19:23:53 EST ZZv4bAy5 No.6358609 Reply
>>6358605
Woookies dont realize that an entire board exists where 4chin pol spammers show up yelling fucked up shit on the regular. These filters are for them. Not you. I like the filters and it seperates 420chan from a lot of other places. I like how weird and jenky this website is. Dont normalize it.
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Becky Bayless - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 19:25:22 EST /YsP7rdR No.6358610 Reply
>>6358605
>waaaaah I can't use my favorite yard/ insults this is literally communism
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Crowbar - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 19:25:29 EST MPO/IlRQ No.6358611 Reply
>>6358605
What, you aren’t hankering back to the days where you’d come to the site and see the basements of anons during the smoke-a-thons?
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Texas Tornado - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 19:25:51 EST SEUGJgZH No.6358612 Reply
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>>6358605
You will never survive 7chan then, you strawberried airwolfing spider expertgot.
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Amish Roadkill - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 19:29:00 EST oUAYJRbE No.6358615 Reply
who let the women in here? only a dumb cunt would be inane enough to cluck and queef about something as inane as a cat planet
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Roderick Strong - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 20:04:51 EST D6njVhGS No.6358626 Reply
> newfags Actually throwing a Fit over the Dave Benthusiasta meme
> actually being worked by our filters
lol this is a good day
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Shawn Michaels - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 21:17:05 EST JyJS6uUQ No.6358655 Reply
https://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=133900

>Major League Wrestling attorneys engaged WWE attorneys this week, PWInsider.com has confirmed with multiple MLW sources, who allege that WWE are attempting to tamper with contracted MLW talents.

>When asked if this was in relation to Davey Boy Smith Jr (Harry Smith) appearing this past Wednesday on WWE's The Bump online series, we were told it was not in regard to Smith's appearance but regarding "multiple talents."

>Since the advent of MLW signing talents in 2018, the language in the contracts specifically forbids them from working WWE dates, so any direct ommunication with signed MLW talents would be seen as a breach of contract by MLW management. Obviously, however, discussion via third parties has gone on in pro wrestling since the days of Frank Gotch and will always happen. MLW has strengthened the exclusivity of their contracts with talents since the advent of All Elite Wrestling's launch last year as well.

>One MLW source claimed that the promotion had an "abundance" of evidence should the matter need to go to court, but hoped that would not happen.
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 21:29:48 EST YILbGvXF No.6358657 Reply
>>6358655
Unfortunately for MLW "Contract Tampering" doesn't exactly exist outside of Professional Sports Leagues.
NFL/NBA etc have Contract Tampering rules to prevent one team from trying to unfairly pull the rug out from another team in a variety of ways, but it all falls under the umbrella of the league.

MLW, WWE, AEW, etc, don't share a "league" or an "association". WWE can/will make offers all they want, all the talent has to do is find a way out of their current contract.
Unless WWE somehow literally prevents an MLW signed talent from obligating their contractual duties you'd have a hard time finding any legal problem here. Quite frankly that would also be nearly impossible to prove anyways as it's the Talent that would be breaching their contract by their own choice, WWE can't breach a contract they aren't involved in, IE: Davey Boy Smith disregards an MLW date to do a WWE thing.. that's on Davey Boy Smith.
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Texas Tornado - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 21:40:05 EST SEUGJgZH No.6358662 Reply
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>>6358655
For some reason the MLW "going to court", just seems kinda.....correct. As usual.
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El MurciŽlago - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 22:09:46 EST lgHQbEwe No.6358666 Reply
>>6358655

MLW is pretty awesome but they really need to get it together.

They advertised Killer Kross and we all know where he's at now.

Timothy Thatcher? Teddy Hart? ACH? There's probably more.


MLW needs to have a working relationship with another company.
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Bobby Fish - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 22:21:09 EST PEVc977E No.6358667 Reply
>>6358666
Another US fed? Because they have 2 international working relationships but who knows how long either will last?
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Crowbar - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 22:43:28 EST MPO/IlRQ No.6358674 Reply
>>6358666
MLW has a ridiculous amount of momentum in 2018. They had a killer year with Filthy chasing Low Ki, the new Hart Foundation and Contra. Now I really don’t hear much about them. Kinda falls on Court for not capitalizing on that and instead the carny fuck lies through his teeth about everything.
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 22:49:51 EST YILbGvXF No.6358677 Reply
>>6358674
Low Ki I guess is busy with other things so he's not so much exclusive to them anymore
They still have Filthy, most of the Harts, and Contra Unit killing chumps every week is great. The Von Erichs are pretty over for their crowds.
but yeah you're right it feels like they could be doin more or get more. I've yet to watch tonight's episode so I don't know if anything has happened in this regard but MJF apparently is just about done with them so that's another "high profile" loss so to speak
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Crowbar - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 22:59:25 EST MPO/IlRQ No.6358679 Reply
>>6358677
I mean, I stopped watching it regularly right after Contra stabbed Konnan on Fusion. I don’t know why, but I have only periodically watched after that. I never liked MJF, but loosing that name really sucks for them. Glad to hear the Von Erichs are over. That might be what gets me back into it. That’s without a doubt my favorite wrestling’s lineage.
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Yoshinari Ogawa - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 23:55:55 EST 2rzNtXEY No.6358699 Reply
Why did Meltzer hate Gorilla Monsoon so much?
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The Gobbledy Gooker - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 00:23:20 EST z+c6DKUE No.6358710 Reply
>>6358511
And the fact that it gives a pop every time it ends up getting posted is why Kirt won't make an exception for Batista's surname.

We've had this filter for quite some time and yet it's only now that someone got so upset over it? It's not the worst filter...
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Tiffany Mellon - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 14:09:22 EST dYhrmb6W No.6358810 Reply
>>6358666
How is it MLW's fault that WWE is sniping their talent (or that Teddy Hart is a druggie fuck up)?

As for ACH, they never said he signed any kind of long term, exclusive contract. They just said he was wrestling a few matches.
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Ravashing Rick Rude - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 14:46:57 EST T5Ycresu No.6358815 Reply
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AUGUST 1 WARNING?

https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/former-ufc-star-begins-training-at-the-wwe-performance-center/

>WWE NEWSFormer UFC star begins training at the WWE Performance Center
ByPaul DavisPublished on February 16, 2020
One of the biggest names in the history of Mixed Martial Arts has begun training at the WWE Performance Center as he hopes to become a WWE Superstar.

>Dave Meltzer reported on Wrestling Observer Radio that Ortiz was seen training at the PC this week. “Tito Ortiz is training to be a professional wrestler at the Performance Center … He was there all week and I heard great things about his work ethic [and] his enthusiasm.”

>In December during an interview with TMZ, Ortiz noted that he had talks with WWE. He didn’t specifically say WWE but it was strongly implied when he said that he was in talks with the biggest company in the world that has been around for many years.

>Ortiz is a huge wrestling fan and he has dabbled with pro wrestling in the past. He made brief appearances for TNA Wrestling in 2005 as the special guest referee for the NWA World Championship match at the Hard Justice pay-per-view. He also refereed a match on the Bound For Glory 2005 pay-per-view. Ortiz was brought in as part of the Aces and Eights storyline in 2013 but he was gone from the company a month later.

>Ortiz is the latest MMA fighter to try his hand at professional wrestling. It’s not unheard of for people to get into wrestling into their 30’s and Diamond Dallas Page was able to do it but Ortiz is 45 years old and he has neck and back issues so it would seem more likely, if he ends up wrestling for WWE, it won’t be for more than a handful of matches. Ortiz still a couple of years left with Combate Americas and he will continue working with them as well.

>Ortiz is a UFC Hall Of Famer and a former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion and he is considered one of the biggest names in company history as he’s one of the guys who fans give credit to for helping boost the company’s popularity in the mid-2000s.
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Jimmy Wang Yang - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 14:55:52 EST jEGuiRVR No.6358819 Reply
>>6358815
If this is legit then LOLWWE but this sounds like someone is purposely feeding Dave bad information so when it 'turns out' it's not true Dave looks bad
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Pacman Jones - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 15:03:45 EST /oooZVvF No.6358822 Reply
>>6358819
>this sounds like someone is purposely feeding Dave bad information so when it 'turns out' it's not true Dave looks bad

If Dave reported it as fact based off of one source he'd be making himself look bad.
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Gangrel - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 11:20:33 EST A8GPKFAQ No.6359751 Reply
>>6359747
Isn't that clickbait? I swear WWE moved ppvs off their service but people keep twisting it like WWE lost AEW won
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Carols Colon - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 12:04:09 EST b8WymD4T No.6359756 Reply
>>6359755
>booking former wrestlers for axxess is news
Slow news day I guess
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Carols Colon - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 12:10:58 EST b8WymD4T No.6359758 Reply
>>6359757
He's been doing the advertising for the Fox News app that plays during Smackdown and probably Fox News itself, so it must not be too damning
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Fabulous Moolah - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 13:01:36 EST oOLczIsv No.6359769 Reply
>>6359758
Fox News has been known to harbor many a sexual predator. They only let people go who become too big of a liability. Tyrus benefits from being a "literally who?" among most people. He's just a big vaguely ethnic looking guy who can spit out conservative talking points with a little added vulgarity and chutzpah. The booker media works the exact same way. Wake up, sheeple!
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Bullfight Sora - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 13:53:56 EST g4u/l2Zz No.6359782 Reply
>>6357952
>Gosh, why can't dave just validate my retarded opinions?
The state of you, m8
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Big Boss Man - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:10:46 EST XjzLSbOC No.6359800 Reply
Daves boomer goons are working overtime
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DJ Hyde - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:11:26 EST jkHcIii8 No.6359801 Reply
>>6358609
>Woookies dont realize that an entire board exists where 4chin pol spammers show up yelling fucked up shit on the regular. These filters are for them. Not you.

Which board? I don't bother with any other ones here on 420 since /sa/ was taken away
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Berlyn - Thu, 20 Feb 2020 10:36:55 EST b8WymD4T No.6360185 Reply
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I swear Joe switched to a body made out of glass during his WWE run
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Xavier - Thu, 20 Feb 2020 11:07:40 EST GVNzvGzK No.6360190 Reply
>>6360185
>tfw Joe purposely got injured so he can return to commentary than wrestle.
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Matt Classic - Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:06:54 EST XjzLSbOC No.6360227 Reply
>>6359801
/b/ has a guy right now bitching how he was banned for child porn and misses "the old days" when chans just shitpost. He ends up trying to say 4chin but says the future and then gets confused about the filter and trys to correct him self but says the future again and everyone roasted him.

/b/ /n/ /a/ and /h/ get a good.amount of tourists and when they try being edgey turds the cat planets fuck them over.
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Yumiko Inoue - Thu, 20 Feb 2020 14:37:09 EST PvOQ6M5D No.6360246 Reply
>>6360242
I honestly thought that was fan art or something until I remembered it actually happened.
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Invader - Thu, 20 Feb 2020 14:49:38 EST QQesQNiH No.6360250 Reply
>>6360185
I kind of get the feeling Joe is milking this, but good for him. WWE can't do anything about it. They can't punish him because then they look like assholes having a guy they consider injured wrestling. They can't release him because of the fear of going to other companies. Guys can literally fake being injured and sit at home collecting paychecks without destroying their body. Current WWE sounds like a paradise for guys at the end of their career.
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Grandmaster Sexay - Thu, 20 Feb 2020 14:53:55 EST JC9WWRCu No.6360252 Reply
>>6360213
>>6360242
Jesus, genuinely forgot that. Wasn't Rey injured at that point? Either way, Joe doesn't have a lot of luck.
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Desmond Wolfe - Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:14:06 EST Lwb9tGFB No.6360256 Reply
>>6360250
>I kind of get the feeling Joe is milking this, but good for him.

Just because he's out slightly longer than expected doesn't mean he's malingering.
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Go Shiozaki - Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:29:12 EST pw8u1c3y No.6360258 Reply
>>6360256
Joe has managed an injury every single year during WrestleMania Season ever since his debut into the WWE. I imagine whatever they’ve scheduled him for has felt so underwhelming that he just didn’t wanna devalue himself with it every single year. Dude is literally ALL or NOTHING in terms of main event level overness going in, or not at all.
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:29:17 EST iLikEToleARn No.6360259 Reply
>>6360258
It's a selfish leader and he said he would make you bored and having my own server and it's bound to happen when you can't do anything they built all the permutations of what OTT has been wasting their potential overness wasn't high enough to join dean in that moment of the card for WrestleMania has never forgotten, but knew an FF could power the quicker turnaround, the WWE championship, WCW, the show, ironic, it's not highly divisive.
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Desmond Wolfe - Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:39:48 EST Lwb9tGFB No.6360264 Reply
>>6360258
>Joe has managed an injury every single year during WrestleMania Season ever since his debut into the WWE.

Sure, Jan.

>>6360242
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:39:54 EST iLikEToleARn No.6360265 Reply
>>6360264
>austin theory (and jim and jan ross, who the better, but the VIBE of the game I played it.
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Tadasuke - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 04:37:22 EST NQLCELKx No.6360520 Reply
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>>6357931
>Becky Lynch actually thinks she's legitimately the biggest star in WWE
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Kenzo Suzuki - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 05:18:39 EST kYLozz2e No.6360526 Reply
>>6360520
She's not wrong though, if we're talking about the active roster. After Punk's pipe bomb she's the only one who has managed to get people outside of wrestling pay attention, even if for a small moment before WWE stomped out the interest .
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John Nord - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 05:25:35 EST sknQFEsq No.6360527 Reply
>>6360520
Hasn't Stone Cold said in just about 50 dozen podcast that, as a wrestler, if you don't think you're the biggest thing going, congratulations, you won't be. He's constantly advocated that wrestlers should go all out, not just in their persona, but out of character as well. Yes, be professional, but have a spine and push yourself to say "You're damn right I should be getting paid the big money".

Whether Lynch should actually be the most paid person in WWE or not is a separate issue. The question is "should she believe that she should be the most paid". And if we're going off what the likes of Stone Cold and the Rock would say, then the answer is yes.

They wouldn't tell her to sit down and chirp that she's a kinda a deal, but that she's no Brock Lesnar. They certainly wouldn't tell Roman Reigns to pipe down and never suggest he was a bigger deal than Orton or Cena.
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Paul London - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 05:27:24 EST gIPGFNys No.6360530 Reply
>>6360526
>After Punk's pipe bomb she's the only one who has managed to get people outside of wrestling pay attention, even if for a small moment before WWE stomped out the interest .

She should've gotten them to pay money. Missed opportunity there.
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Jerry Lynn - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 09:04:11 EST b8WymD4T No.6360550 Reply
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>The WWE Japan Performance Center is expected to be announced soon, possibly in the summer if everything goes as planned. WWE has three house shows in Japan this summer so the announcement could come around that time.

>WWE is working with Antonio Inoki and Senator Hiroshi Hase on the political situation regarding the launch of the new PC. WWE was planning on working with Pro Wrestling Noah for the expansion in Japan but a Cyberagent media company purchased Noah.

>There was no word on if the Japan PC will include a NXT brand.

https://www.pwmania.com/wwe-japan-performance-center-coming-soon
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EITAmaniacs !hc1Z1.0piQ - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:08:04 EST rh1YhD/u No.6360555 Reply
>>6360550
maybe they will launch soon but they will be a flop in a long-term
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Ezekiel Jackson - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:41:24 EST /QSOXPNJ No.6360568 Reply
>>6360550
Curious what the base for this is supposed to be since every company in Japan told them to fuck off
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Magnum T.A. - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 14:05:22 EST zkNCUJnz No.6360606 Reply
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>>6360550
KIDANI PLEASE YOU CAN HAVE HIM JUST DON'T LET THEM GET TO MY GORGEOUS BOY ACE OF JACKET

YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN STOP THE DUBYA NOW
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Nunzio - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 14:08:24 EST iiKQZuhS No.6360608 Reply
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>>6360550
>WWE destroy my scene only to move on to the only other stuff i regularly watch
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tHURTeen - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 14:31:24 EST xLSzxq9Z No.6360612 Reply
>>6360550
> No mention of Okada, Tana, or anyone who matters
> just a vague reference to Inoki being in talks with Vince
not giving a fuck until it actually happens.

Nice pic-related to stir hype up OP but nah, this aint shit.
Watch Omega snag Okada to AEW before this even happens?
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Masked Superstar - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 14:35:41 EST iLe2GkB4 No.6360615 Reply
>>6360550
Can Japan survive the WWE poaching of talent? Find out next week!
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Little Fiji - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 15:26:51 EST +u1/ibiz No.6360633 Reply
>>6360550
>WWE is working with Antonio Inoki and Senator Hiroshi Hase on the political situation regarding the launch of the new PC.
the year is 202X wwe japan has become the final frontier of inokism

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