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Hana Kimura has died

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- Sat, 23 May 2020 00:11:58 EST d+HdnJ+3 No.6397273
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https://twitter.com/wwr_stardom/status/1264043551718961152
https://twitter.com/we_are_stardom/status/1264045951607386113

Stardom fans,
We are very sorry to report that our Hana Kimura has passed away.
Please be respectful and allow some time for things to process, and keep your thoughts and prayers with her family and friends.
We appreciate your support during this difficult time.


This post was edited by buttocks on 23-05-2020 00:14:06
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Grizzly Redwood - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:13:57 EST vSMiM6xq No.6397276 Reply
social media can be a plague to humanity
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Nova - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:15:38 EST LBIs3MUh No.6397278 Reply
Shit just fucking sucks right now. What a miserable time we are in.
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Harvey Wippleman - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:16:35 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6397281 Reply
What the fuck I thought someone got to her and she was OK.

Fuck it all man
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Kevin Nash - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:16:39 EST 74S21DJ6 No.6397282 Reply
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>>6397273
Maybe something positive with ending social media bullying will come out of this
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Major Tanya - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:16:43 EST LjHejvlA No.6397283 Reply
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING OOOONNNNNNN I'M SCARED
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The Miz - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:16:44 EST T27T75Qv No.6397284 Reply
RIP

undeniably the worst fuckin year ever
jesus christ
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Greg The Hammer Valentine - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:18:01 EST apVHRr3j No.6397286 Reply
Fuck... She actually did it. Goddammit
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Vinnie Vegas - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:19:50 EST 57iCT7jE No.6397290 Reply
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Look at what you did, internet.
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Nova - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:22:11 EST LBIs3MUh No.6397293 Reply
I'm out of the loop, why exactly were people harassing her?
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Grizzly Redwood - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:22:42 EST vSMiM6xq No.6397294 Reply
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> Adorably talented joshi Hana Kimura is pressured into Suicide by Social Media insults every day
> Shad Gaspard of Cryme Time gets eaten by the Ocean saving his son
> Howard Finkel in March
> LA PARKA
> The ROCK's Father Rocky Johnson
what the fuck is next
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Kevin Nash - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:25:33 EST 74S21DJ6 No.6397295 Reply
>>6397293
She's on a reality show with other people in a house. She was washing a special wrestling uniform. A guy in the house didn't see that and threw his load in with her uniform and then dried it all. The uniform was shrunk in the dryer. She was upset so she confronted him but he wasn't as sorry as she thought he should be so she slapped/hit him on the head and flipped his hat off before going upstairs. Mind you this was taped months ago. Japanese social media targeted her and bullied her into it.
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Rhino - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:25:47 EST vXRwwSQy No.6397296 Reply
no clue what to even say. unbelievably fucking awful
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Grizzly Redwood - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:28:22 EST vSMiM6xq No.6397299 Reply
>>6397293
https://theovertimer.com/amp/2020/05/stardom-wrestler-hana-kimura-could-be-in-danger/

"Social media is a powerful tool, and sometimes a cry for help can be blasted to many using this. This was the case earlier today with the 22 year old up and coming star, Hana Kimura. A second generation wrestler, Kyoko Kimura, Hana has been working with Stardom since 2016, and has found tag team success alongside her mother, Kagatsu, Jungle Kyona and Konami. She also nabbed a role on the reality TV show, Terrance House. Alongside Giulia, Hana Kimura even made her Tokyo Dome debut this year, losing to the team of Arisa Hoshiki & Mayu Iwatani. Despite all this, things are not as good as you might think, and she gave fans a bleak look into what is happening behind the scenes
> Nearly 100 frank opinions every day. I couldn’t deny that I was hurt. I’m dead. Thank you for giving me a mother. It was a life I wanted to be loved. Thank you to everyone who supported me. I love it. I’m weak, I’m sorry.”

“I don’t want to be a human anymore.”

“It was a life I wanted to be loved.”

"thank you everyone. I love you."


Bye.”

Things got worse for her after the role on Terrance House, with the fans of that show attacking her following an on-screen incident involving her and other cast members. Add in a post from Instagram with her simply saying ‘Sayonara’ and fans & friends alike were rightfully worried.
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Lacey Von Erich - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:28:34 EST E6VElK6q No.6397300 Reply
>>6397293
Reality show (Terrace House) fans were just abusing the shit out of her on social media
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Christina Von Eerie - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:28:48 EST wr9IX7Ez No.6397301 Reply
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I fucking hate that this is the last tweet she 'liked'. This shit is just so sad in a way that gets me angry, social media is just a toxic mess
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Nick Jackson - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:32:22 EST 2bPvY2v3 No.6397303 Reply
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She was two years younger than me. Her life just started.

Fucking sick world.
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Fire Ant - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:36:25 EST oWLdzxNc No.6397306 Reply
>>6397300
this sounds like a cultural thing as well since it sounds like she was essentially shamed into it i could be wrong. also for people who may not know terrace house is sorta like a japanese version of big brother so if you want a better understanding of the fans think those types.
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Miss Elizabeth - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:38:11 EST 7DNeRHPW No.6397307 Reply
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Hey 2020,
Can we talk?
You can seriously fucking stop this shit at anytime.
  • my liver
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Harvey Wippleman - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:40:15 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6397311 Reply
>>6397305
>>6397304
>>6397295

It was way more than just Japanese fans, and it's something that happens a ton. Three people on that show "Love Island" took their lives because of fan harassment as well (from what I understand)
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Giant Bernard - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:44:05 EST EMdOYVQB No.6397313 Reply
What are some essential Hana Kimura matches that one should watch? At the very least, we can honor and celebrate her career (which had been cut far far too short) in this very small way.
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Derrick Bateman - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:51:15 EST 4nbY1wSv No.6397317 Reply
>>6397311
Only heard in passing but it was something like 2 cast members and then the host all committed suicide.

Reality TV was always pretty bad for this shit, but it became a lot worse when it started focusing 100% on late teen/early 20s who have no idea what the fuck they are doing, probably agreeing to be on these shows with a weeks notice, then having everything about them come to the attention of millions of people a fair few of which are fucking mental.

Celebrities which slowly became more and more popular struggle to deal with this shit, never mind being dumped straight in at the deep end with no idea.
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Nathan Jones - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:53:57 EST ZcoAes5B No.6397321 Reply
>>6397315
The worst part is that at least two of those trends are people partaking in the exact sort of thing that led to Hana's death. As much as I defend twitter in terms of having their hands tied on enforcement, they could absolutely monitor the trending tab to keep cancellation/scandal/etc. hashtags from trending and letting these dogpiles build momentum.
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Shane Storm - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:54:52 EST 6dHk1vf7 No.6397323 Reply
>>6397317
Its way worse in Japan where any female in the public eye is basically unofficaly an "idol" and has to follow THOSE fucked up rules.
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Hiroshi Tanahashi - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:55:04 EST pPgifDYX No.6397324 Reply
fuck... rip

>>6397282
Nothing ever does. This happens all the time. It sucks but it's just a waste of time the internet is too big for those type of campaigns or rallies to do anything. I'd rather people focus on teaching others how to mentally deal with social media first and foremost because the problem will not go away it's just how the internet works.


>>6397287
lol damnit trent
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Crimson - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:55:41 EST d4zr+aUA No.6397325 Reply
im not a joshi fan but damn, this one hurts bad, Hana was a charming girl.
Fuck u internet
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Atlantis - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:56:50 EST T5Ycresu No.6397327 Reply
HOW DOES THIS FUCKING YEAR KEEP GETTING WORSE WHAT THE FUCK

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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:59:30 EST PPc0gdwd No.6397331 Reply
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This is unbelievably fucked

It felt like only recently that I saw her debut and was thinking how cool it was that Kyoko Kimura's daughter was following her footsteps. And then Hana so quickly became a force in her own right, not just in Kyoko's shadow.

Someone young and full of potential snuffed out because of a fucking reality TV show and stans on twitter. This is fucking bullshit.

And I hate the fact that deaths always seem to come in threes.
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RegalMachine xvm-fzc !Ro1w0thJao - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:00:35 EST F0Ox2SDr No.6397332 Reply
What a bunch of miserable fucking cocksuckers.
It's a fucking reality show.
Most of that shit is a work.
True, Japanese fans are obsessive urchins, probably a bunch of moonfaced uggos fem-simping over some foppish androgynous imp. But people in general on the internet are cunts (just in case the board is too much of a pussy to handle that word it's C.U. Next. Tuesday.)
It just too easy to be a relentless retard.
It's a shame no close to her was able to get to her and maybe talk her out of it.
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Derrick Bateman - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:01:01 EST 4nbY1wSv No.6397333 Reply
I know this seems rather stupid on a wrestling board on a drug chan but if this shit is hitting very close for you please speak to someone either a friend/family member you can trust or to someone anonymously via a helpline.

For the UK:
Samaritans
Call 116 123
Email jo@samaritans.org
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:01:10 EST iLikEToleARn No.6397335 Reply
>>6397334
...fuck, no need, but they're good at is, you're probably right long term.
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Chyna - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:02:02 EST A4wjgKFd No.6397336 Reply
That's tragic. She deserved better, RIP.

Horrible week for Wrestling,
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Shikamaru !rpuvCQools - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:02:13 EST /xFUVGX9 No.6397337 Reply
This is fucking bullshit. Social media is a mistake.
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Derrick Bateman - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:03:48 EST 4nbY1wSv No.6397341 Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Harvey Wippleman - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:04:27 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6397342 Reply
>>6397332
For what it's worth "C U Next Tuesday" gave me a hearty laugh as I haven't heard that shit since middle school. Thanks
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Savannah - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:05:54 EST x8ohQNwM No.6397343 Reply
This year is just an unrelenting garbage fire
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John Nord - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:08:48 EST Z96aJ4e0 No.6397346 Reply
>>6397276
Can be? Social media is probably the worse cancer humanity's ever unleashed and that includes the actual cancer. I imagine it's especially worse for zoomers that have grown up online and lived half or more of their lives on social media because for them social media is the real world and there is no turning it off.
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CIMA - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:09:21 EST wccCHLh8 No.6397347 Reply
>>6397313
Check Cagematch for a general list
Joshi city should have some Hana Kimura matches, with dailymotion links
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Fire Ant - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:10:37 EST oWLdzxNc No.6397350 Reply
>>6397304
in the same way people get shitty about wwe or anything else its usually overly obsessive people who expect everyone and everything to go as they think it should and when things dont turn out like they hope they attack everyone who they feel is at fault. that account in the picture seems have been telling her she needed to die or the world would be better off without her for a while now and its most likely just an alt somebody made just to mess with her. some people really need to get a life.
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Giant Bernard - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:10:50 EST EMdOYVQB No.6397351 Reply
>>6397332
What makes this worse is that after the self-harm tweets she posted earlier today, it sounds like people at Stardom (I know at least Bobbi Tyler) actually reached out to her. Reports at the time said that Hana was OK.

How quickly a day passes by, with so much happening...
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Marty Jannetty - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:12:20 EST HDYHkhYg No.6397353 Reply
She never deserved this. Someone literally older than me by a few weeks, gone. All over some reality tv bullshit. I feel fucking sick. Can't even imagine how Kyoko's feeling right now.

Rest easy Hana
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CIMA - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:12:28 EST FDkiPOmT No.6397354 Reply
>>6397321
there's a big fucking difference between hana getting bullied into suicide over a fucking fake tv show and doja cat's real, genuine racism being shown to a large audience, you fucking idiot
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Big John Gaburik - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:17:48 EST vAvO0C5Q No.6397356 Reply
There really seems to be a generational gap when it comes to Social Media. You got the generation where Social Media is new but you've been alive longer to know how to treat people. Then you got the new generation were social interactions are "just words". It's the mindset of "It's just words, turn your phone off, idiot." Sending cruel tweets telling them to off themselves is just "banter" online to these people, it's just words to them.
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CIMA - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:18:36 EST wccCHLh8 No.6397357 Reply
>>6397346
Society is what's awful. Social networks expose how bad it can be. If we never had twitter, facebook, etc. People would still be awful on forums, chat rooms, etc.

You would have to kill the internet. No, even then, the point still stands. Society is what is awful.
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Atlantis - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:19:58 EST T5Ycresu No.6397359 Reply
>>6397345
I hope AEW airs a graphic for her before DoN, I know Kimura didn't work for AEW but alot of AEW talent knew her well
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The Miz - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:21:57 EST 32Id8cWb No.6397360 Reply
>>6397301
I dont want to sound mean or anything but for all those mean comments she had hundreds more supporting her. I feel there was something more going on with her than just cyber bullying. Her death caught me by surprise. I thought she was simply crying for help by posting what she posted. It's really sad.
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Big John Gaburik - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:24:12 EST vAvO0C5Q No.6397362 Reply
>>6397360
It's not easy listening to the positive comments. When you want to be loved and you get loved, you are happy and feeling good, but wanting to be loved and being told the world would be better without out. 1 of those tweets heavily outweights a simple "I love you!", even if it was 1 kys tweet vs 100 loved tweets, that 1 kys is going to be like an atomic bomb to some people.
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Grizzly Redwood - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:24:29 EST vSMiM6xq No.6397363 Reply
2020 has officially defeated 2015
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Francine - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:24:37 EST vCkiVt97 No.6397364 Reply
>>6397354
Their point was that some online mobs seem to be encouraged. These dumb ass "____ is over party" hashtags that teen girl k-pop stans propagate are ultimately harmless and only serve to be an annoyance, but they have the unfortunate effect of making "you fucked up once so now me and my internet mob get to decide your fate" seem culturally acceptable to impressionable idiots, which is how we ended up here.
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Nathan Jones - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:24:49 EST ZcoAes5B No.6397365 Reply
>>6397354
People are getting bullied either way. Just because you don't like Doja Cat or w/e doesn't mean this system of trend-fueled dogpiles is actually worth defending.
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BigDogg - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:26:34 EST FCBlNgVg No.6397367 Reply
>>6397351
Very strange indeed, it seems she was ok but then, many details missing
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Mil M‡scaras - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:27:32 EST n9eKBgQH No.6397368 Reply
>>6397365
>>6397354
Unfortunately for every actual critic of someone like Doja Cat's actions there are 100 or so dedicated trolls who are just going straight to threats toward her. Same for those who initially tweeted about the racism, they're getting spammed threats too.
It's just a fucking mess
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Nova - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:28:18 EST LBIs3MUh No.6397370 Reply
>>6397360
I have little doubt that the harassing exasperated an already existing mental issue, but with that said I think most people find themselves more affected by negative comments than positive ones and if you have self-esteem issues thats probably increased tenfold.
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Grizzly Redwood - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:30:26 EST vSMiM6xq No.6397372 Reply
>>6397370
the article I posted was basically saying this quarantine can also increase peoples mental health struggles and to be aware of that kind of thing with isolation. We're social creatures and it can be maddening for some to be alone at times
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:31:35 EST +bTXA6lG No.6397374 Reply
Wait what the fuck? She got cyberbullied and killed herself? Man this is like August Ames all over again. Really sad this happened especially to a 2nd generation wrestler like Hana.
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Tina Ferrari - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:31:55 EST 22qf56s3 No.6397375 Reply
>>6397312

Don't mean to derail the thread but is Dave an WWE mark? That thing about her being the most charismatic of the two feels super out of place and tacky in this moment
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Kevin Von Erich - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:32:19 EST LigF/Jx3 No.6397376 Reply
>>6397300

Japanese culture showing itself to be just a thin veneer of neon covering up bubbling trash once again.
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Nathan Jones - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:34:33 EST ZcoAes5B No.6397378 Reply
Kind of a tangent, but do you think this will finally convince a certain high-profile wrestling personalities to stop acting like an asshole on twitter to wrestlers they don't like? I won't name names but I'm sure you all know exactly who I'm talking about.
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The Undertaker - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:36:29 EST GXxiN37g No.6397379 Reply
I hate social media, I hate reality TV, I hate all this bullshit. Twenty two fucking years old, imagine all that potential, it's unreal. Worse yet is that nothing ever changes, the same Big Brother clones will keep getting produced, suicides will happen in this exact fashion as they already have countless times, people will keep being vile cunts on Twitter and face no repercussions from society. Nobody will ever learn anything or try and think like human beings because this Truman Show garbage will keep making money. It's just fucking sad. RIP Hana.
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The Big Show - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:37:26 EST R3W/DL4b No.6397380 Reply
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I BLEED IT OUT DIGGING DEEPER
JUST TO THROW IT AWAY
I BLEED IT OUT DIGGING DEEPER
JUST TO THROW IT AWAY
I BLEED IT OUT DIGGING DEEPER
JUST TO THROW IT AWAY
JUST TO THROW IT AWAY
JUST TO THROW IT AWAY
I BLEED IT OUT
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Nathan Jones - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:45:06 EST ZcoAes5B No.6397385 Reply
>>6397383
No, because mentioning him will instantly derail this thread because his few remaining fans will bend over backwards to defend him and attack the people he picks fights with or pretend it's all just a work. This isn't the place to have that fight.
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Ron Harris - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:52:16 EST tM5WE3F3 No.6397391 Reply
Chances AEW and WWE acknowledge it?
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Kurt Angle - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:54:41 EST ICNR1+X8 No.6397393 Reply
>>6397391
I think AEW is more likely, not because of company wars shit, but just because more people in the company have ties to STARDOM. Probably sending condolences to the family via commentary at the PPV.
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Jonathan Coachman - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:55:51 EST E974Clb1 No.6397395 Reply
>>6397375
I think the point of this was to explain that Hana wasn't just a Literally Who in the industry, but someone who was destined to be the biggest star in one of the higher profile joshi companies, if not the highest profile. Not that any death wouldn't have been a tragedy, but this just feels especially tragic because of how high her ceiling was.
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Nova - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:57:00 EST LBIs3MUh No.6397397 Reply
>>6397391
AEW I could see doing it.

I can't think of any instances where the WWE has acknowledged the death of a wrestlers who never wrestled for them.
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Ron Harris - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:59:24 EST tM5WE3F3 No.6397400 Reply
>>6397397
They've done legends in the industry, I can't think of an example off the top of my head but some 95 year old who was retired before WWF was a thing.
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C. Red - Sat, 23 May 2020 01:59:42 EST 7ZkLLCFc No.6397401 Reply
>>6397391
You're expecting far too much from WWE to do it. She never worked for them at any point, so she's not part of the "WWE family."

While WWE mentioned Shad because he was a former employee, AEW mentioned Shad's death on the air on Wednesday, despite having zero connection to.
I'd actually expect AEW to mention Hana Kimura in some way. Some of the joshis and people like Jamie Hayter for instance have worked with her before, so they have more of a personal reason to do so since they could even dedicate tomorrow's show to her.
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John Nord - Sat, 23 May 2020 02:03:55 EST Z96aJ4e0 No.6397402 Reply
>>6397351
Something like that just reminds me of Yukiko Okada's suicide back in the 80s where she was found with her wrists slashed and basically the people who were with her looked away just long enough for her to sprint down a hallway, take the stairs to the roof and jump off.

Not that I think that something like that happened with Hana and likely she wasn't as okay as originally thought but I guess you also can't rule out any possibility either.

>>6397323
Kind of funny you mention the idol thing because there's a lot of girls who get into it because of depression and shit and just wanting the chance to feel confident and feel like they're being loved and adored by other people via essentially playing a character. It's something I've heard so often, even from people who don't really have an reason to care about keeping idol kayfabe, that I'm willing to believe it's true for a lot of them. I imagine the same thing holds true for a lot of wrestlers too.

But of course the flip side fo that is being in the spotlight means a lot more pressure and a lot more chances for people to rip on you and harass you for whatever bullshit which can be tough if you're the type of person who already has image and self-esteem issues or is just sensitive in general. Shiki Shibusawa retired because she couldn't take dealing with it and Hana, well, yeah.

>>6397378
Absolutely not
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Nathan Jones - Sat, 23 May 2020 02:04:11 EST ZcoAes5B No.6397403 Reply
>>6397401
I could see NXT doing something for her, but WWE is kind of a wild card at this point.
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Sat, 23 May 2020 02:16:03 EST M1ahJWky No.6397409 Reply
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Fuck, I never realised how young she was. I noticed her during the classic Oedo Tai period and of course she's a really beautiful woman, but still she brought a huge amount of confidence to that position, not to mention going on to lead her own faction. I don't really follow this Terrace House stuff, I got that it was like Big Brother, but I assume it's pre taped from before lockdown?

R.I.P.

>>6397313
Just watch any of her stuff in Oedo Tai.
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Kharma - Sat, 23 May 2020 02:18:20 EST FpQEOx+c No.6397410 Reply
Social media has been a net negative on human civilization
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Skip Sheffield - Sat, 23 May 2020 02:18:42 EST teLvstTp No.6397412 Reply
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While the situation is pretty grim all these posts about how "If she would have never been bullied all this would have never happened." seem pretty relative to me. I mean lets be honest if it was James Harrison, Teddy Hart, etc. who would've committed suicide most of /wooo/ would have been celebrating deaths, I mean admittedly their all pretty big lolcows so most of it is deserved. It's just sort of funny seeing /wooo/ freak out so much about a Joshi star dying this way.
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Sat, 23 May 2020 02:22:50 EST M1ahJWky No.6397415 Reply
>>6397412
the James harrison stuff was funny in a sort of 'look at this' way the first time. I never understood the need to keep making threads about it
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Kana - Sat, 23 May 2020 02:25:42 EST b4/lLU6j No.6397417 Reply
>>6397412
>James Harrison
I've never seem anyone wish him harm at any point and there's a fuckload of people who just laugh at what he produces and leave at that. I would be sad if he passed away and extremely angry if he was bullied into it.
>Teddy Hart
He is a mess. I hope he can win a battle against his demons but I wouldn't be as surprised as Hana Kimura dying precisely of how wild and toxic his entire career has been and I am not one of those guys who throws the word 'toxic' at every phrase.
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Hikaru Shida - Sat, 23 May 2020 02:27:30 EST zqFK+0Lu No.6397418 Reply
Japan needs to fuck off with their shame culture
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CIMA - Sat, 23 May 2020 02:28:22 EST wccCHLh8 No.6397420 Reply
>>6397412
And the thing is, the social media bullying was merely part of the issue here.
The other part is how she was portrayed on that reality show

Did they mention that the ruined gear was for her appearance on Wrestle Kingdom? And how important WK is for a female wrestler who is booked to wrestle there? How badly were other contestants burying her? Was she being portrayed as the main heel?

Combine the shit she was getting from social media + how her mind was dealing with realizing that she was being portrayed as a total bitch on TV + her realizing that the vast majority of people watching the show think she is a cunt, and you have a different issue. Fuck off with the comparison to Teddy Hart.

Teddy deserves so much of the shit he gets, the comparison is so terrible, my man. Afaik, Hana has not raped anyone, didn't play a part in getting an ex kidnapped, nor did she have any allegations against her like that. She also didn't get blackballed from promotions like Teddy did, and I didn't hear about her no showing or going into business for herself during matches.
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Pedro Morales - Sat, 23 May 2020 02:39:50 EST GGraqCs4 No.6397425 Reply
As a fan of Terrace House this is quite shocking since you got to see a lot of her real life personality on the show.

Generally she was quite well portrayed on the show to be honest. She had a few love interests and whilst she always came off as somewhat emotionally immature(being 22 and all) she was always compassionate, sweet, and caring for the other house mates.

Of course it being a reality TV show they are going to edit things in a way at times to make things look the way they want, and the incident with her wrestling gear was portrayed very one sided against her.

For more context the guy who ended up ruining her wrestling gear was a potentially love interest for her, they had gone on many dates and they had just come back from a disastrous couples weekend with 2 others who were living at the house(the other guy being an incredibly creepy guy, but that's for another time). So the incident with her gear was a bad tasting cherry on top of all that mess.

It's absolutely deplorable what some people are willing to say and how far people are willing to go when they hop on the hateful bandwagon, and yes of course people love to do the 'well just turn it off' meme. But she is a wrestler, and a public figure, who is obliged to have a presence on social media to promote herself and to promote STARDOM.

This whole situation sucks as and I am really sad that the circumstances aren't different. I just wish someone close to her had gotten wind of her state of mind and was able to stop or save her.

RIP Hana.
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Sat, 23 May 2020 02:43:13 EST PPc0gdwd No.6397426 Reply
>>6397412
> I mean lets be honest if it was James Harrison, Teddy Hart, etc. who would've committed suicide most of /wooo/ would have been celebrating deaths, I mean admittedly their all pretty big lolcows so most of it is deserved. It's just sort of funny seeing /wooo/ freak out so much about a Joshi star dying this way.

I have moderated this site for almost a decade and I've never, ever allowed people to celebrate any harm coming any wrestler's way such as injuries, never mind their deaths, no matter who they were. I took some flak for it at stages; there was one time Roman Reigns got injured in the midst of eveyone hating him and a small minority of people wanted to celebrate it because it meant he'd be off TV for a while, but I still reigned that shit in because I was never going to allow a toxic attitude like that to fester.

So no, this site would not and will not be celeberating anything like that because that's not how we operate. People can actively say the hate certain wrestlers and criticise them and even be pretty harsh about it, but there is, in fact, a line here and we have enforced it and will continue to do it.

And I think the vast majority of people in the community are happy with that. Any community that celebrates deaths has just lost the complete run of themselves.
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Raisha Saeed - Sat, 23 May 2020 03:03:55 EST XHVceXXl No.6397429 Reply
>>6397426
Yeah. Even recently, when Roman Reigns announced his leukemia coming back, most people were supporting the guy's battle & any dickheads who were celebrating it was banned, IIRC.

Not enough do it, but some people know to separate their dislike of a wrestling character from the person behind the gimmick.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 23 May 2020 03:13:27 EST +bTXA6lG No.6397431 Reply
>>6397331
>And I hate the fact that deaths always seem to come in threes.

Sure does. I mean this month alone we've already had Supreme, Shad Gaspard, and now Hana Kimura all pass away.
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Sgt. Slaughter - Sat, 23 May 2020 04:01:44 EST GBwAYjIm No.6397440 Reply
I'd say the social media thing is a factor, but all of these things are already in existence. I'm mainly talking about the whole "blame the victim" mentality, which is of course very fucked up, but hey that's the japanese society and it's values.
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Dragon Dragon - Sat, 23 May 2020 04:13:22 EST 5IAAeQ8V No.6397443 Reply
This is why my only online interaction happens on imageboards. Fuck social media.
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Jonathan Coachman - Sat, 23 May 2020 04:21:54 EST 1Thwe0/g No.6397444 Reply
I was not familiar with her work but I was a fan of her mother.

My condolences go out to her family and friends.
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Sara Del Rey - Sat, 23 May 2020 04:38:56 EST NKPhoz7o No.6397445 Reply
>tyler-the-creator.png

Serious question: what makes it so hard to unironically follow Tyler's meme? I mean shit, surface internet is basically a giant faggot that won't do shit to you.
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Grizzly Redwood - Sat, 23 May 2020 05:06:24 EST vSMiM6xq No.6397449 Reply
>>6397391
I mean some of their talents already have mentioned it and AEW's profiles have made a post for her so, probably
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Derrick Bateman - Sat, 23 May 2020 05:28:37 EST 4nbY1wSv No.6397451 Reply
>>6397445
There can be a lot of reasons.
The most obvious one would be if you already suffer from some kind of anxiety or personal image issues that drive you to need to know whats being said.

Add on top of that the National Emergency over COVID meaning you've got all the time to read shit online, with nothing to distract you or nothing you can do to prove them wrong.
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Sat, 23 May 2020 06:04:10 EST rP8moGMd No.6397457 Reply
Thinking back, it is nice that there didn't seem to be anybody in the wrestling community that was harassing her, and was rather the Terrace House people. It's nice to know that we aren't the worst fandom out there.
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Neko Nitta - Sat, 23 May 2020 06:16:44 EST BxsoGG2K No.6397461 Reply
>>6397457
You should have a look at the show's sub over on circlejerk. A cesspool. Reality show fans make wrestling fans look like thoughtful saints in comparison.
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Super Shisa - Sat, 23 May 2020 06:24:13 EST cfOXxE22 No.6397464 Reply
Same shit that happened to caroline flack.

It's time for social media companies to stop washing their hands of any responsibility. Make it so all accounts have to have their identity verified OR be linked to a valid mobile number. Social media fucking sucks for mental health and especially for celebrities who are essentially bound into using it to promote themselves.

Trolls using burner accounts and hiding behind anime avatars to send abuse and hateful shit to people needs to stop
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BxB Hulk - Sat, 23 May 2020 06:25:21 EST 3LUVVnwv No.6397465 Reply
I just got out of bed and WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
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Super Shisa - Sat, 23 May 2020 06:50:36 EST cfOXxE22 No.6397476 Reply
>>6397469
>>6397471
>>6397459
>>6397473
Are you genuinely that lonely and starved of human interaction that you're using somebody's suicide as an attempt to get some attention? I honestly feel sorry for you, but trust me, this won't make you feel any better
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Super Shisa - Sat, 23 May 2020 06:55:37 EST cfOXxE22 No.6397479 Reply
>>6397478
Yes, it's valid for 3 of you
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Beth Phoenix - Sat, 23 May 2020 07:22:52 EST Dx7fpIB+ No.6397485 Reply
>>6397476
I'm just really annoyed with what a waste of life it is. Shad performed a selfless act, and she throws her life away for nothing. some people truly lack perspective.
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Super Shisa - Sat, 23 May 2020 07:24:27 EST cfOXxE22 No.6397486 Reply
>>6397485
That's because you have a lack of understanding or education in regards to mental illness.
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Super Shisa - Sat, 23 May 2020 07:30:30 EST cfOXxE22 No.6397489 Reply
>>6397487
I've spent years working with people suffering from mental health issues, and if you think the solution is to blame them or try to guilt trip them into feeling bad about it because other people act "selflessly" or have shittier lives, then you are hilariously uninformed.

The reality is, lots of people suffering from depression also do have massive feelings of guilt and like they shouldn't feel that way, and that they're also hurting the people they love.

However, if you have evidence to back up that approach and over-rule the vast amount of research into mental health issues, then please provide it. It'd be great if some shitposter on /wooo/ managed to solve the mental health crisis being faced across the world.
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DJ Hyde - Sat, 23 May 2020 07:33:28 EST bmAXYm9x No.6397491 Reply
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This is truly horrible. Just fucking horrible. I'd seen her at some STARDOM shows and at the Dome, as well as back when I used to watch STARDOM a bit more regularly, and she was fantastic. Exceedingly pretty, good in the ring, had a well defined character. I watched her first bit on Terrace House but didn't get any further yet. I don't think I can stomach it now, knowing what happened.

One of the worst stories of an already terrible year. Rest in peace.
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The People - Sat, 23 May 2020 07:46:39 EST DIKFKCIe No.6397499 Reply
>>6397496
Go be edgy somewhere else, you actual cunt.
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Francine - Sat, 23 May 2020 07:49:41 EST vCkiVt97 No.6397501 Reply
I don't usually cry to mods but god damn can one of y'all clean this edgelord shit out of this thread and permaban these "EpIC TROLLZZZZ" tourist motherfuckers? It hasn't even been a day.
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The People - Sat, 23 May 2020 07:51:56 EST DIKFKCIe No.6397503 Reply
>>6397500
I haven't even posted in this thread prior to now. Please stop shitposting in a thread about someone's death, for fuck sake. It's not 2009 anymore, you don't need to act like this for attention.
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Christian - Sat, 23 May 2020 07:53:15 EST /xrRYIeF No.6397504 Reply
>>6397273
can someone explain what this terrence house shit is? I know it's some dumb reality tv shit, but why did it's fans bully her so bad? did she do some sexual thing that they didn't like?
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The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea - Sat, 23 May 2020 07:58:20 EST oUq1xYd+ No.6397505 Reply
>>6397273
>>6397504

She was on a reality show in Japan, and apparently there was some things that went on there that caused fans of the show to attack her and bombard her with horrible hate filled messages on social media.

Girl was 22 and was pegged as the future of Stardom.

I don't get why it got to her so bad, maybe it's a Japanese thing combined with obvious mental illness. RIP obviously
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Kurumi - Sat, 23 May 2020 08:03:46 EST 5bFvbLsD No.6397508 Reply
Man, as a genuine big fan of Terrace House, this is awful. Hana did come off really badly on the show, being responsible for pretty much two members leaving and deserved criticism. But fuck me, had no idea how bad it ended up getting. People really do take this shite too seriously.
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The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea - Sat, 23 May 2020 08:04:58 EST oUq1xYd+ No.6397510 Reply
>>6397508
Explain Hana's behavior and the various incidents that happened, please. I'm interested in this because this is such a random ass death
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Wade Barrett - Sat, 23 May 2020 08:04:58 EST hfWlpRie No.6397511 Reply
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Sure, social media is great in that you can make friends and talk with people from far away, but you can already do that in places like here. All social media does is attract people to just hop on for free and say and do whatever horrible things they please because they know there's no repercussions for it. And yeah, I know billions of people use Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc., and they'll claim sites like those are "ungovernable" just because of the massive userbase, but fuck, I wish these sites had moderators to take control of what goes out on these sites. People don't think about what they say to others online, and it really fucks some people up. I truly think the internet was a better place when it was just close-knit forums like these.

That's my rant. RIP Hana, what an absolutely terrible week.
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Neko Nitta - Sat, 23 May 2020 08:06:28 EST BxsoGG2K No.6397512 Reply
>Ah, a thread about someone's death, perfect place to shitpost for attention!
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Wade Barrett - Sat, 23 May 2020 08:07:43 EST hfWlpRie No.6397513 Reply
>>6397511
It's why I love /wooo/ for wrestling talk. Sure, we may fuck with each other a lot on here, but I don't think anything really gets out of control because of all the great board mods. Social media wrestling discourse with all the normies is just the shits.

Now I'm done for real.
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The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea - Sat, 23 May 2020 08:14:23 EST oUq1xYd+ No.6397514 Reply
>>6397513
> but I don't think anything really gets out of control because of all the great board mods.

...What?
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The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea - Sat, 23 May 2020 08:19:15 EST oUq1xYd+ No.6397515 Reply
I don't get it, man. A 22 year old woman who was pegged as the future ace of Stardom was somehow driven to suicide because of cyber bullying? wat
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Kane - Sat, 23 May 2020 08:21:02 EST d+HdnJ+3 No.6397518 Reply
One needs to wonder if Hana could have been saved if WWE took Stardom under its wing.
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Kurumi - Sat, 23 May 2020 08:21:32 EST 5bFvbLsD No.6397519 Reply
>>6397510
>Hana comes into the house, clearly someone inexperienced with boys
>a basketballer called Ryo comes into the house, she immediately falls for the guy and goes after him like a lovesick puppy
>Emika, another girl she lives with, has been going on dates with Ryo so Hana desperately tries to pair Emika off with one of the other boys in the house
>doesn't work, Emika calls her out. Hana has an argument with her and tells her she lacks empathy but they eventually make up
>Emika eventually watches that episode, Hana smiles while Emika is obviously hurt and doesn't even try to reassure her. Emika is insulted by the commentators the show has and all the criticism she was getting for coming off floozy and left the house. Hana gets some criticism around here for how she handled it all

Fast forward a bit and:
>Ryo leaves, Hana falls for new guy Kai
>Kai is a guy clearly lost in life and probably a little depressed
>they go on a date that he was largely disinterested in, had another male member who persuaded him to go pay for his stuff. He eventually tells her that he doesn't want to get into a relationship at this stage while he's still trying to figure his life out
>she starts badmouthing him badly behind his back
>it builds up until they return from the trip and she finds the wrestling gear she wore at Wrestle Kingdom shrunken in the wash which Kai had apparently mistakenly double washed with his stuff, not having seen it
>clearly she plays a big role in having it shrunk, given that she had a day window before Kai returned from the trip to recover it from the washing machine
>doesn't care, blows up when Kai comes home. Uses really outdated yakuza style of talking and berates him down
>then gets physical with him throws his hat off while screaming "why are you wearing this stupid hat"
>he apologises and leaves the house soon to an unsympathetic Hana and she gets a ton of hate online for it
>Hana stays and meanders in the house until the corona situation stopped them filming
Sorry for the long ass post but that's the gist of what happened.
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Zack Ryder - Sat, 23 May 2020 08:26:32 EST QQesQNiH No.6397524 Reply
Heartbreaking. One of the most devastating wrestling headlines considering how young and promising her future in the business was.
If she didn't let those comments get to her, she would have realized years later how the people spewing hate weren't worth her time.
RIP
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Santino Marella - Sat, 23 May 2020 08:36:28 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6397528 Reply
Is it possible she was already dealing with depression issues and the scrutiny of being on a reality tv exacerbated something underlying? Admittedly even wrestling may not be the healthiest outlet for someone dealing with those issues because you're thrust into very public situations in front of countless strangers. I don't watch stardom, did she ever talk about dealing with any issues?
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EITAmaniacs !hc1Z1.0piQ - Sat, 23 May 2020 08:38:02 EST rh1YhD/u No.6397530 Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea - Sat, 23 May 2020 08:38:11 EST oUq1xYd+ No.6397531 Reply
>>6397528

I don't watch stardom either but obviously mental illness is at play here, usually people don't just fucking kill themselves because of cyber bullying. Who knows.
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Grizzly Redwood - Sat, 23 May 2020 08:45:53 EST vSMiM6xq No.6397534 Reply
>>6397518
No because her being isolated wouldn't be any different and that's another main contributing factor to what leads a fragile mental state into a downward spiral.
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The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea - Sat, 23 May 2020 08:58:12 EST oUq1xYd+ No.6397536 Reply
you can take 2020 and give it back to the indians
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The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea - Sat, 23 May 2020 09:09:50 EST oUq1xYd+ No.6397540 Reply
>>6397537

Well, he did do something wrong but it wasn't on purpose and I think Hana's reaction was a bit much. Dude apologized like ten times. This story makes no sense to me because a 22 year old killed herself due to cyber bullying over shit that happened on a reality tv show. She fucking said wrestling is her life and she was doing the show to give exposure to Joshi.. so why kill yourself over this?

I could understand if it was a Chris Von Erich type situation where something happened and she couldn't wrestle anymore or she was injury prone and she killed herself or whatever the fuck


But what the fuck is this shit? There's gotta be much more we don't know.
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Sat, 23 May 2020 09:09:55 EST iLikEToleARn No.6397541 Reply
>>6397540
Why get a used copy the E she and her brother if you use beth phoenix, renee young will be watching wrestling in madison square garden or new year’s were all great additions for them to be politics and the only reason anyone thinks it's completely opposite version of the talent (yet?), etc.) so I guess the WWE title being passed to alex fairly, who was posed to be lucky to be bollocks.
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The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea - Sat, 23 May 2020 09:11:39 EST oUq1xYd+ No.6397542 Reply
>>6397541

Why can't you ignore this unfunny fucking robot that shits up serious topics like this one? Fuck off
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Neko Nitta - Sat, 23 May 2020 09:22:32 EST BxsoGG2K No.6397543 Reply
>>6397542
>that shits up serious topics like this one


>>6397502
>>6397500
>>6397498
>>6397492
>>6397487
>>6397478
>>6397473
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The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea - Sat, 23 May 2020 09:27:03 EST oUq1xYd+ No.6397545 Reply
>>6397543

That was my brother, I beat his ass and told him to stay off the internet
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Dory Funk Jr. - Sat, 23 May 2020 09:32:27 EST Jxx0nSXw No.6397547 Reply
>>6397531
>usually people don't just fucking kill themselves because of cyber bullying.
>ignores all the teenagers and people that are doing it on a daily basis

Yeah nah. This is a shit take and you are clearly blind to the outside world if all you think it takes it to grow some balls and just get off the internet when that shit will follow them off the internet too. Maybe try actually opening your eyes and having some compassion for once.

>inb4 you're a simp/pimp/flavor of the month insult.
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The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea - Sat, 23 May 2020 09:34:06 EST oUq1xYd+ No.6397548 Reply
>>6397547

Fuck compassion. Life is about fucking fighting constantly and dealing with shit like this and rising up.
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Richie Steamboat - Sat, 23 May 2020 09:38:04 EST zJiUY97j No.6397549 Reply
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Previous shitposting aside, I doubt Hana wouldn't want her fans to be sad. Celebrate her career and accomplishments, don't mourn her. Also, regardless of your religious beliefs, looking up near death experiences can give you hope of an after life, and hope that she's in a better place now. Hopefully this doesn't start a religion shit flinging contest. Stay sane.
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Dory Funk Jr. - Sat, 23 May 2020 09:40:35 EST Jxx0nSXw No.6397550 Reply
>>6397545
>Fuck compassion. Life is about fucking fighting constantly and dealing with shit like this and rising up.

I can see that you weren't raised well as a child or are a child if you cant have compassion for some one taking their life or even being blind to the face that people have mental health issues that go beyond your petty little take. Its sad that you don't think these people are trying to fight it but sometimes the weight of it all just comes crashing down on you and you can't fight anymore. Its like being in the middle of the ocean and you are trying to stay afloat as long as possible but eventually your body is gonna give out and you get tired from all the fighting and then at that point you have no choice but to give up and accept your incoming death.
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Linda McMahon - Sat, 23 May 2020 09:42:11 EST y9j8To7z No.6397551 Reply
Fuck, fuck, fuck.

I knew extremely little about her actual in-ring work, but she was my favorite member BY FAR of Terrace House of the last several seasons. Several times, I had been wanting to ask more about her in-ring work in the Joshi general, but never did.

What a fucking heartbreaking tragedy.
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The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea - Sat, 23 May 2020 09:46:23 EST oUq1xYd+ No.6397552 Reply
>>6397550
>I can see that you weren't raised well as a child
I was raised well as a child, I just found out later via the street life that the world is a cruel place and people are constantly trying to hurt you, rob you, scam you, insult you, etc and it's your job to fight against it and rise up.

>if you cant have compassion for some one taking their life

What the fuck? Where did you even get this from?

>Its sad that you don't think these people are trying to fight it but sometimes the weight of it all just comes crashing down on you and you can't fight anymore

I don't understand it.

>Its like being in the middle of the ocean and you are trying to stay afloat as long as possible but eventually your body is gonna give out and you get tired from all the fighting and then at that point you have no choice but to give up and accept your incoming death.

It's...not like that at all but okay.
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Bob Backlund - Sat, 23 May 2020 09:59:45 EST tubuDWb0 No.6397555 Reply
>>6397325
Same, I don't know much about joshi, but she always stood out to me anytime I saw a picture of her. She radiated charisma and you could feel it through any picture of her. The whole situation is so fucked up that it actually makes me feel sick.
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Linda McMahon - Sat, 23 May 2020 10:00:06 EST y9j8To7z No.6397556 Reply
>>6397552
You've now desperately been fishing for any kind of attention in this topic for a legitimate two hours, starting with straight up trolling, to pretending to care, to being triggered by someone rightfully pointing out that you were raised privileged, stupid and isolated from actual real life.

Maybe take a step outside yourself and imagine dealing with your alienation and desperation for any kind of interaction with people, multiply it by an entire country doing it to you and doing it non-stop for months and months and months, with people telling you that you're the kind of piece of shit that's so desperate for attention that you have to shit up a 22-year old girl's death announcement because you can't form enough genuine emotional connections with people to behave like a real human boy.

Maybe shitting on someone else's pain isn't actually a sign that you were raised well.
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Sat, 23 May 2020 10:00:14 EST iLikEToleARn No.6397557 Reply
>>6397556
Sometimes, goofy shit, I'll see more actually completed, no matter how distracted people are more likely of the “real talk–when you’ve put up with a day earlier drew more ratings threads for well, you're just asking a couple of games we will.
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Psycho Clown - Sat, 23 May 2020 10:02:14 EST ih0Gv+si No.6397559 Reply
Really fucked up over this, man. RIP
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Justin Credible - Sat, 23 May 2020 10:19:50 EST Pm60MNhg No.6397562 Reply
Just when you think this board couldn't get any worse...
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Wade Barrett - Sat, 23 May 2020 10:25:50 EST hfWlpRie No.6397565 Reply
>>6397563
But will America news cover it? There's definitely a story that can be spread for anti-cyber bullying
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Cheech Hernandez - Sat, 23 May 2020 10:32:32 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6397569 Reply
>>6397568
Retard: the post
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Ray Mendoza - Sat, 23 May 2020 10:38:18 EST iwt4/lje No.6397575 Reply
>>6397563
Second most read story on the site when I saw it just now. Kind of wild. I actually had someone not into wrestling ask me about it.
Even though I don't watch joshi this was a fucking gut punch. By all accounts she had a bright future.
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Lince Dorado - Sat, 23 May 2020 10:46:08 EST VbwA2ibK No.6397584 Reply
Too much pressure within the japanese culture for women to act cute and look sexy and then shit like this happens.

RIP
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Lexie Fyfe - Sat, 23 May 2020 10:48:13 EST fu/nEbPT No.6397586 Reply
Honestly...yall need to grow a fucking pair
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Cheech Hernandez - Sat, 23 May 2020 10:54:29 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6397592 Reply
What's this meme I'm hearing about, regarding Hana Kimura and a cat?
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Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Sat, 23 May 2020 10:55:05 EST cajoPv45 No.6397593 Reply
>>6397568
>>6397571
>>6397582
Imagine what sort of juvenile, small-minded cunt it takes, to shit up a memorial/news thread.

You're beyond pathetic.
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Ranjin Singh - Sat, 23 May 2020 10:57:59 EST WaJ3d2Ta No.6397594 Reply
It bothers me when meatheads shit on people who kill themselves as if they are enlightened to the whole thing and dont realize that theyre just being sociopathic.
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Fire Ant - Sat, 23 May 2020 10:59:03 EST oWLdzxNc No.6397595 Reply
>>6397519
having just now watched the video of the event with kai she did come off a bit harsh unless you really understood her reasoning for caring about the outfit she is gonna come off like a massive jerk. not saying that justifys people harassing her cause fuck that. but over all this was such a small argument like the dude fucked up she got mad he apologized she finds it hard to accept his apology because he does not seem to even fully understand or whatever and leaves after knocking his hat off. the fact that people were telling her she should die because of that tiny thing is exactly the problem. to them they were upset with someone who came off as this massive jerk but she was just passionate about wrestling and seems to just have been a bit awkward outside of it. i hope at the end of the day this might make people think maybe a tiny bit before they speak but seeing as this sorta thing happens more than it should i doubt much change will come. as stupid as it sounds when this type of stuff happens your best bet is ti just walk away and if you cant or find it hard to seek support. apologies for the rant just cant get over how fucked this whole thing is.

also question to anybody who might watch japanese reality shows or at least the one hana was on. do they do a similar thing to american ones in which they frame people as the various stereotypes and focus on whatever drama they can to make those people look extra bad if it fits their stereotype?
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Yumiko Inoue - Sat, 23 May 2020 11:12:04 EST EoxBw17e No.6397604 Reply
I'm glad that everyone on /wooo/ is an expert on psychology and mental illness.
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Nick Jackson - Sat, 23 May 2020 11:20:34 EST 2bPvY2v3 No.6397607 Reply
>Asuka(WWE)'s tweet about seeing Hana as a child in the crowd
Man it's just crazy, older wrestlers literally watched her grew up and she's gone before them
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Mason Ryan - Sat, 23 May 2020 11:25:53 EST Q91466AW No.6397608 Reply
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>>6397304
I think those who harassed her were dumb kids who watched the show and got mad is why. Well that and twitter is notorious for being utter shit at stopping things like death threats since twitter just sits on thier hands when there is any kind of abuse even when people point it out and also after when twitter do nothing to stop it from happening more. Fuck both of those things making it lead to this >>6397304
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Kevin Nash - Sat, 23 May 2020 11:27:25 EST 74S21DJ6 No.6397610 Reply
>>6397607
It helps her mom was a wrestler. No different than if Charlotte passed away and a bunch of old WCW guys put out responses
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Katsuyori Shibata - Sat, 23 May 2020 11:47:23 EST 7mXrZGOQ No.6397615 Reply
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>>6397273
She was a princess, I'm devastated. 22 is way too fucking young man. Travesty.
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Lacey Von Erich - Sat, 23 May 2020 11:55:52 EST ptUCWTW8 No.6397620 Reply
>>6397594
There was a documentary a while back here in England on BBC 3 about 'grief' or 'RIP trolling' where someone who recently passes away (for any reason) their family becomes the target of hateful trolling mocking the recently passed away person.

They actually tracked down one person who posted everything under their real name and they spluttered away with 'm...muh free speech'

Here's a link:

https://youtu.be/3IuGTfxfk-A
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Ranjin Singh - Sat, 23 May 2020 12:11:57 EST WaJ3d2Ta No.6397627 Reply
>>6397620
Pathetic. It doesnt make you more intellegent because you shit on people who are hurting. It doesnt make you tough or strong or cool or smart or funny. It quite literally makes you sociopathic and unable to feel things like empathy, compassiin, sympathy. Very telling that someone is mentally stunted when they act like this.
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Linda McMahon - Sat, 23 May 2020 12:27:42 EST y9j8To7z No.6397633 Reply
>>6397594
Consider this: Every single person who has gotten into power in American politics or business has done so through favors, direct or indirect nepotism, handholding, backroom deals, outright bribes and/or circumventing the system. People who buy into the BOOTSTRAPS idea have gotten worked into believing that the oh gosh can do buckle down and work harder attitude is anything more than the kayfabe they tell the fucking chumps and dum-dums. Morons who buy into that it's actually a fair fight and not that it's a predetermined performance meant to line the pockets of the people in charge and don't even bother questioning it as long as THEY'RE fed and happy.

Conservatives, whether fiscal, social or regarding mental health, are the marks who believe professional wrestling is real of the real world. It should bother you, but you should also pity them for being fuckin marks.
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Derrick Bateman - Sat, 23 May 2020 12:37:40 EST 4nbY1wSv No.6397639 Reply
>>6397595
>also question to anybody who might watch japanese reality shows or at least the one hana was on. do they do a similar thing to american ones in which they frame people as the various stereotypes and focus on whatever drama they can to make those people look extra bad if it fits their stereotype?

This is the case with the vast majority of reality shows and those in Japan, Korea, etc. are no different. There might not be written scripts but there will be story ideas, creative editing and like going on either from day 1 or after a little time has passed and they have viewer data to act on.
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John Nord - Sat, 23 May 2020 12:38:48 EST Z96aJ4e0 No.6397640 Reply
>>6397565
Check google. There's stories about on places like Yahoo News, People, Variety, the New York Post, Forbes and such. Also other countries too. It's a global story and one of the top trending things on social media. It's one of those things that because of how young she was and the situation around it (the cyberbullying, the self-harm pictures, what amounted to a public suicide note) is going to affect people who don't even know anything about pro wrestling or Japan. And Terrace House was getting increasingly popular outside of Japan as well so there are plenty of people who knew her from that and not from wrestling.

Of course Forbes had to go and blame it on toxic wrestling fans like idiots though.
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Super Calo - Sat, 23 May 2020 12:43:35 EST VzUu6VM4 No.6397644 Reply
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>>6397633
Is this a bot? Why do you have to bring up Conservatives and all that other crap in a thread about a young woman who killed herself? You're not even addressing anything that was discussed. Leads me to believe your brain is all mush. But keep hijacking threads to make them your personal soapbox. What a f-slur.
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Verne Gagne - Sat, 23 May 2020 12:44:23 EST 6drDM9Y6 No.6397645 Reply
>>6397633

What the hell are you talking about lmao did you accidentally post on the wrong board, bro?
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Hacksaw Jim Duggan - Sat, 23 May 2020 12:48:38 EST H4JkCY3Q No.6397650 Reply
>>6397317
Good god almighty, reality tv is a cancer upon our society.
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Christian - Sat, 23 May 2020 12:53:38 EST /sOa59h7 No.6397652 Reply
>>6397412

How massively disconnected from reality are you/>>6397445

Because it's shit advice from an idiot. it's very difficult to just go offline for good nowadays, especially for someone in a career that needs self promotion and fan interaction. Once you've seen the negative comments, at least some of the damage has already been done, and not everyone's reaction will be to withdraw themselves from the situation. It's classic victim blaming.
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Carl Oullette - Sat, 23 May 2020 12:57:18 EST ov2UDz3N No.6397654 Reply
>>6397652

Sounds like you're the one massively disconnected from reality if you get so butthurt from some douches on the internet. Stay on your purpose and ignore the haters. They don't have the balls to say shit to your face . Guess what guys, the world isn't a fun loving place where everyone is friends with each other. Get used to it or fall. Simple.
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Carl Oullette - Sat, 23 May 2020 12:58:51 EST ov2UDz3N No.6397657 Reply
Whatever happened to Gary Cooper?
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Christopher Daniels - Sat, 23 May 2020 12:59:56 EST z+c6DKUE No.6397660 Reply
This just fucking sucks..............
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Gran Akuma - Sat, 23 May 2020 13:17:32 EST U+EAXH/v No.6397669 Reply
>>6397281
>>6397281
I hate to ask but has anyone heard details of this?

Before I heard she was gone, I remember updates saying that she was “checked on” or something similar; she had posted pictures of self harm or something like that and and people were very concerned and someone was sent to check on her possibly. There was an update after saying she was checked on and was fine.

It seems like they didn’t do a good job, I mean, if she was bleeding and hurt wouldn’t she need more than just a quick pop in “hey you ok? Ok, good! Bye then!”

I know people with plans to hurt themselves can be deceptive when people ask how they are and maybe people close to her did all they could, I’m not trying to point blame but has there been any information on the timeline of events? Maybe something like this could be prevented in the future?
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Mason Ryan - Sat, 23 May 2020 13:25:38 EST Q91466AW No.6397674 Reply
>>6397351
Ae the self-harm tweets gone? I know she posted some and it was fast gome and i dont know if anyone screencappedi t
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Yumiko Inoue - Sat, 23 May 2020 13:27:17 EST OgwlfJPe No.6397677 Reply
holy fuck when did this board become so shit
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Derrick Bateman - Sat, 23 May 2020 13:28:43 EST 4nbY1wSv No.6397681 Reply
>>6397669
Hard to figure out what exactly was happening with most of it being in Japanese.
From what I gathered at the time people were going to check on her but I never saw the stuff saying she was okay.
We don't know, and perhaps won't know, the exact timeline.

While she had posted pictures there's no way of knowing if any of them were taken at the time, certainly one was older than the others for sure. It seemed very much to me like a "this is what I have been going through recently" set of pictures.
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Abyss - Sat, 23 May 2020 13:30:26 EST dnRZ5lEr No.6397683 Reply
>>6397680

it used to be ok but these past few weeks have been filled with one shit topic after another
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Sat, 23 May 2020 13:30:37 EST PPc0gdwd No.6397684 Reply
>>6397677
The vast majority of the posts in this thread are expressing their remorse about Hana, and I've just removed the posts by 2 trolls in the thread trying to fuck with people while they're upset about this.
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Harvey Wippleman - Sat, 23 May 2020 13:31:05 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6397685 Reply
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>>6397281
>>6397669

From Kari Sane's tweet it sounds like she may have passed/been too far gone when someone arrived. I've ran it through a few translations and google's seems to be the best.

Absolutely tragic
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The Undertaker - Sat, 23 May 2020 13:31:15 EST GXxiN37g No.6397686 Reply
>>6397669
It was some members of the STARDOM roster that went to check up on her, apparently, so we'll probably get info on that when the wound isn't so fresh and they feel like talking. My guess is as you said, they probably did the initial check up and felt enough at ease to let her out of their sight for a minute, maybe even just a few seconds. It's a really volatile state of mind, suicides happening moments after an intervention is definitely not unheard of.
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Abyss - Sat, 23 May 2020 13:31:16 EST dnRZ5lEr No.6397687 Reply
>>6397683
actually i typed this wrong, i meant to say people filling topics with trolling shit
nb
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Harvey Wippleman - Sat, 23 May 2020 13:36:00 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6397693 Reply
>>6397685
>>6397669

Also want to add 2 points. I apologize if I am a bit frank

  1. The original tweets were probably taken down by Twitter. They delete self harm stuff pretty quickly

2. Even if someone went and sat with her, when someone wants to take their life they can find a way. The sad reality is it takes an instant. Imagine if you were sitting together how quickly someone beside you could sprint away before you reacted. It's a sad reality and a big reason why people who are a suicide risk are detained rather than put in observation.

For an untrained person one slow reaction, or one slip-up (Something as simple as turning your back for an instant) can be enough
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Derrick Bateman - Sat, 23 May 2020 13:37:12 EST 4nbY1wSv No.6397694 Reply
>>6397674
They are out there if you really want to see them.
If it's just the text you want rather than the pictures I'm okay posting that here.
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Mason Ryan - Sat, 23 May 2020 13:43:09 EST Q91466AW No.6397698 Reply
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>>6397694
Go for it. maybe make an imgur post or something since you dont want to kind of post gore? At leastytThat person who sent her death threats deleted thier account
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Nathan Jones - Sat, 23 May 2020 13:44:25 EST ZcoAes5B No.6397699 Reply
>>6397464
The problem is that ending anonymity harms a lot of marginalized people who use social media to speak up. Every single time a social media site tries to do real ID verification it winds up hurting trans folk the hardest. It's just not that simple. Again, I think the most effective immediate solution would be to either police the trending tab to stop dogpiles or better yet just axe it altogether.
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John Nord - Sat, 23 May 2020 13:44:46 EST Z96aJ4e0 No.6397700 Reply
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This is one of those things that's definitely bigger than wrestling at this point.
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Derrick Bateman - Sat, 23 May 2020 13:49:36 EST 4nbY1wSv No.6397707 Reply
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I just happened to have them open and google page translate running when they were taken down. So usual "it's google translate" warnings apply but the jist seems to be there.
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Derrick Bateman - Sat, 23 May 2020 13:50:50 EST 4nbY1wSv No.6397709 Reply
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>>6397707
She also posted this on instagram at the same time.
Text is "I love you, have fun and live a long life. I'm sorry."
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Derrick Bateman - Sat, 23 May 2020 13:52:02 EST 4nbY1wSv No.6397710 Reply
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>>6397709

And the first picture untranslated for anyone who knows japanese or has a better translator they can stick a picture through or transcribe into.
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Fire Ant - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:01:15 EST oWLdzxNc No.6397717 Reply
>>6397669
instances like this one are why when people do seek help especially if they go to the local psych ward they are locked up in a similar way to someone who is fighting withdrawl symptoms they are watched non stop and nothing in the room is deadly. outside of that setting the only real way to keep someone from hurting themselves is to keep them in your sight endlessly. and try to provide a distraction without being forceful. in hanas case judging from what those who have seen the pictures say about them she was not trying to kill herself at first just harm as she felt awful. this is all assumption at this point but its possible someone did get to her and helped patch her up (most likely not wanting to go to a hospital due to virus concerns and such) and for a while she was fine (the person who was with her could have fallen asleep along with her thinking it was safe to do so) and then something happened that brought hana back to that place and yeah. many times someone does not plan to actually kill themselves they plan to simply harm but when you are in that state of mind you dont really realize what you are doing and things just sorta take over and yeah..


tldr: she was checked on, it seems like after that something happened ,this stuff can only be prevented by watching the person like a hawk or taking them to a professional.
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Pacman Jones - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:02:34 EST 4gmh45ky No.6397718 Reply
>>6397420
Bro, you literally don't get it. It's not your job to bully or judge or whatever it is you THINK you're doing to Teddy Hart, EITHER. Are you seriously this fucking dense? That self-righteous "sense of justice" shit is where this all starts.
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Caprice Coleman - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:03:41 EST 0g8+IxW/ No.6397719 Reply
While I agree with the takes on social media hate, I also think there's something to be said for reality TV fucking with people's mental health. This isn't the first time a show specifically made someone out to be a piece of shit or provoked confrontations because they needed a "villain", and I feel the producers of Terrace House bear some portion of the blame for fueling the hatewagon episode after episode even after it became clear Hana was getting way too much of it. It's a business that thrives off human misery and the fact is they drew numbers by making her miserable and probably made a bad situation much worse.
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Bam Bam Bigelow - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:07:41 EST RTJ1mz8S No.6397724 Reply
This goes beyond wrestling, this is sincerely tragic on a human level…
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Pacman Jones - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:12:51 EST 4gmh45ky No.6397726 Reply
>>6397519
Oh my god, who fucking cares? Are actual adults watching these shows? All of this could be a work and if not - still why is this even a thing? It's just fucking dumb. None of it justified ANY of the suicides of the people in these shows. Stop watching this shit. Stop thinking it's okay for you partake in this kind of media.
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James Storm - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:16:41 EST PG3gwD1S No.6397728 Reply
>>6397273
Social Media was a mistake
shame it will never go away to much money involved in it
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Pacman Jones - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:20:29 EST 4gmh45ky No.6397732 Reply
>>6397552
You called it a fight. Well some people lose that fight. Plenty of champions have lost fights. Losing a fight doesn't make you a loser. If you can't understand how some people lose that fight then your "street life" is a steaming load of shit. You haven't even begun to suffer and I hope you never experience that kind of suffering.
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Caprice Coleman - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:25:21 EST 0g8+IxW/ No.6397736 Reply
>>6397726
This is more or less my take too. Reality TV has always had an air of "Haha, look at these fucking morons, they are so goddamn useless and stupid" to make the audience feel superior and I think a large portion of that played into this. When you appeal to people's sense of superiority, they're often going to start treating the participants as inferior, and unfortunately this will often affect women disproportionately, especially in cultures like Japan with a strong shame culture and a wide gap of gender inequality.
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Mil M‡scaras - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:27:52 EST n9eKBgQH No.6397738 Reply
>>6397728
This
Twitter has moved on already from Hana's death to calling Hilary Duff a pedophile and a sex trafficker
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Jonathan Coachman - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:29:04 EST 1Thwe0/g No.6397742 Reply
>>6397445
I would say that the average person does not need to be on social media, so I would interpret what he is saying as why would you return to something thats causing you so much pain when you could easily live your life and avoid it. If you are just an average person it can be pretty easy to block someone who is harassing you, but if you are a celebrity it can be harder to avoid this. Especially if you need to be on social media to get exposure to your fans and make more of them.

I personally think Tyler makes a point, but either way the people who say the terrible things are solely to blame.
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Neko Nitta - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:35:23 EST BxsoGG2K No.6397744 Reply
The pressures social media puts on someone in the public eye must be absolutely nuts. There's no way I'd touch it . I'd have someone else manage 100% of it for me if I was famous.
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Junkyard Dog - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:35:26 EST ew/JNj/3 No.6397745 Reply
>>6397720
god shes so beautiful. such a beautiful person inside and out. the world didnt deserve her. shes happy now with god.
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Christopher Daniels - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:38:57 EST rWWSIM8P No.6397747 Reply
>>6397683
>it used to be ok
You don't remember earlier in this decade when we had a macro of a dead black guy who was killed by police?

Even though it's been a sfw board for nearly a decade now, just being a chan board means it's gonna attract a certain subset of people no matter what.
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The Undertaker - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:42:40 EST GXxiN37g No.6397749 Reply
>>6397726
>>6397736
If there's ever been a man-made invention worse than social media it's reality TV, this shit has been going on for at least two decades now, you could fill several graveyards full of the people it's spat out and we never seem to learn anything. Hana's life was left to the mercy and whimsy of editors and showrunners who chose every cut based on what will whip stanning retards on twitter into a frenzy. The online bullying involved is horrible but let's face it, it's exactly what they want, the genre thrives off of it.
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John Nord - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:44:31 EST Z96aJ4e0 No.6397752 Reply
>>6397749
I feel like reality TV never really got as bad as it has until the rise of social media. It was kind of trash TV but not solely but it increasingly went in a trashier direction as social media grew. It's really two sides of the same coin.
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Riho - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:46:49 EST tzs2tHuX No.6397754 Reply
Wooo has been completely reasonable and kind about Hana and Shads death. I don't know what the fuck circlejerk is talking about or some of the people in this thread. The only people who said shitty things were like two trolls and Celt dealt with it. They were clearly from another website trying to start some shit.

Someone just killed herself and people are trying to make this about wooo and WWE and plebbit. Wooo may have it's hiccups but if you seriously think this place is anywhere near as hateful as other places you are just wrong.
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Johnny Swinger - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:48:14 EST ao3LZOV7 No.6397755 Reply
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Every time a wrestler dies tragically now this is all I can think of.
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Nathan Jones - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:50:36 EST ZcoAes5B No.6397757 Reply
>>6397738
I just looked at that and it's basically fucking pizzagate/Qtard shit. It's absurd that twitter is letting this sort of thing trend. It can't be that hard to just snip things from trending and replace them with something else that's going on that isn't insane and potentially life-destroying.
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Sho Funaki - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:51:01 EST NvCkWLu+ No.6397758 Reply
>>6397754

bro there was like six or seven trolls at once earlier, celt just deleted everything.

Who the fuck even mentioned circlejerk? What the fuck are you even sperging out about? Don't pretend like this board isn't a toxic cesspool
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Caprice Coleman - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:53:14 EST 0g8+IxW/ No.6397762 Reply
>>6397752
Believe me, it was always bad. I remember the early 2000s and how newspapers would dedicate entire issues to reality cast members who spun out of control and basically hounded them into substance abuse and self-destruction. Celebrity culture has always been toxic as fuck, there's always been paparazzi and a sense of entitlement to the private lives of public figures. Diana died in 1997. Monica Lewinsky was relentlessly bullied in the mid-90s and for decades following it. Japan has basically made a sport of publicly shaming celebrities for making mistakes, often tied to drugs or sexual relationships.

Social media just makes it easier to pinpoint because it's some dude directly telling Hana to go kill herself rather than just newspapers posting shitty pictures of her and speculating about her private life, but the fact is that this need to watch people fuck up and ruin their lives is at the core of it all, and there are people that profit off that specific niche of human misery, and this is far from the first or last time it will have real dire consequences.
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The Undertaker - Sat, 23 May 2020 14:58:35 EST GXxiN37g No.6397766 Reply
>>6397758
The key term is "at once", it was either a raid or a guy IP hopping. I would agree with him that something like that shouldn't be indicative of /wooo/ as a whole, not only is this board not a 'toxic cesspool' but I'm half-convinced the people claiming it is are the same ones shitposting, trying to bend reality into the narrative they want. But whatever, it doesn't matter, this isn't the thread for it.
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Riho - Sat, 23 May 2020 15:00:25 EST tzs2tHuX No.6397768 Reply
>>6397763
Well adjusted human here that's so ahead of the curb with this meathead country boy logic.
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Latin Lover - Sat, 23 May 2020 15:00:44 EST wOp4zGQ4 No.6397769 Reply
>>6397758
Because rosemon is whining and posting lies about /wooo/ in the circlejerk thread about Hana.
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Riho - Sat, 23 May 2020 15:01:27 EST tzs2tHuX No.6397770 Reply
>>6397766
Yeah this thread is a target right now for some assholes. It's really messed up during a time like this.
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Caprice Coleman - Sat, 23 May 2020 15:06:43 EST 0g8+IxW/ No.6397775 Reply
>>6397765
I imagine this hit Foley hard, given his daughter and the attention she's drawn from fucking degenerates who feel it's their place to talk about who she's dating or her career choices.
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Van Hammer - Sat, 23 May 2020 15:07:12 EST 7e1VdFxD No.6397776 Reply
>>6397770
Much like real life if people stop taking the bait and ignore them they'd get bored
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Joel Gertner - Sat, 23 May 2020 15:14:55 EST GXHNtkkw No.6397782 Reply
>>6397775
tbf if anybody was dating Frank The Clown then I would feel compelled to say something
like if somebody was going around kicking puppies
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Mike Adamle - Sat, 23 May 2020 15:17:58 EST iaBqYU2l No.6397785 Reply
What has really surprised me was the amount of twitter idiots who made Hana's passing about them.
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Fire Ant - Sat, 23 May 2020 15:28:10 EST oWLdzxNc No.6397796 Reply
>>6397719
^ this you can tell if you watch the clip they wanted hana to come off as an absolute jerk and people bought into it big time and essentially turned a small issue. this happens so much in social media and reality tv you do one thing people dont like and you go from being unlikeable to being the literal incarnation of satan and if you cant endure it then it breaks you. we can blame comments and they surely had impact but we cant forget that this stuff would not even be happening if not for shows that promote it endlessly and turn people into monsters just to fit in with their story they want to write.
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Primo - Sat, 23 May 2020 15:41:07 EST sTKyCdub No.6397800 Reply
Even if she never wrestled again, no one deserves to die that young. Especially if she felt so sad that only her death could bring her peace. It's fucking awful.
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Kurumi - Sat, 23 May 2020 16:01:59 EST 5bFvbLsD No.6397810 Reply
>>6397726
I was just providing some context, you dumb cunt. I never said it justified a fucking thing. You can take a holier than thou position on it if you want but the show was generally positive. Yes, the nature of reality TV shows is morally questionable but you're on a wrestling board that champions a hobby that has a history of sexual abuse, murders and carnie shite. Maybe get off the pedestal lad.
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Meiko Satomura - Sat, 23 May 2020 16:23:52 EST s1/WGvRT No.6397824 Reply
>>6397819
I know this is an /assp/ meme but She almost certainly didn't as her Instagram Story where she says goodbye her cat is either alive or she bothered to move it into different poses for each picture.
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Jonathan Barber - Sat, 23 May 2020 16:39:28 EST wfc4Nl90 No.6397828 Reply
>>6397426

420chan and /wooo/ in particular has always been pretty chill about that sort of shit for years now.
Its just fucked up to think that the Hal Turner raids and other anonymous /shenanigans/ have spun into this internet hit mob mentality.
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Yoshiko Tamura - Sat, 23 May 2020 16:43:48 EST Yh32H/H+ No.6397830 Reply
Not sure if anybody would know, but was there any chance she was taking anxiety meds?
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Madison Rayne - Sat, 23 May 2020 16:56:54 EST 8yd+8s50 No.6397836 Reply
terrible
the ones who have a future or have something going for them always get me.
just makes no sense for them to have to die like this.
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Greg The Hammer Valentine - Sat, 23 May 2020 16:58:04 EST LUMg+nxK No.6397838 Reply
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22. A god damn shame.
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Tugboat - Sat, 23 May 2020 16:59:01 EST NnKx8iFo No.6397839 Reply
Whats frustrating and sad is that nothing will change. Someone mentioned the Love Island suicides in this thread and I remember when the host commited suicide and there was such an outpouring, trending all over social media and all over the news and daytime TV about how we should examine how we talk on Social Media and how the youth of today don't understand that their words have consequences because they've grown up with social media and how we have to be kind to one another etc. And sometimes I'd just feel gross because some of these people with their super generic "Think before you speak. Be kind to one another, your words have consequenecs <3" speeches were the same people harrassing her but they just never realise that just because they never told her to kill herself, that they didn't contribute to how she felt.

Piers Morgan with his "We need to seriously think how we speak to people. We need to be kinder. Why aren't people nice anymore!?" tweets, then proceeding to shit on Meghan Markle in the next series of tweets. His defense? That's not harrassment, that's "criticism". People never think they're the ones contributing to making someone feel bad, because then they'd feel ashamed. So they just convince themselves, their nasty tweets directed at someone didn't contribute to their suicide, it was just the ones that said "Kill yourself"
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John Nord - Sat, 23 May 2020 17:15:56 EST Z96aJ4e0 No.6397854 Reply
>>6397824
I think it was based off of either a shitty machine translation that made it seem like she'd killed her cat or stuff rom Japanese social media and places like 5ch or a combination of both.

>>6397839
Really social media's just a giant cesspool that I don't think will ever be fixed; it being a cesspool is just ingrained into the very fabric of it whether it's political shit, race shit, dumb celebrity shit, anything you can think of and twitter really seems to be the absolute worst out of all of it. All of the funny Trent tweets in the world won't really change the fact that twitter especially and social media in general is a giant garbage dump.
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Francine - Sat, 23 May 2020 17:17:39 EST vCkiVt97 No.6397858 Reply
I think a big point that people are missing/glossing over is that Japan's shame culture is beyond fucked up and a major reason why this happened.

Hana went on Terrace House and said she wanted to get more people into wrestling. Then she got the villain edit (with her passion for her career causing physical conflict, which is a major no-no in Japanese society) and people jumped on her with death threats and constant harassment until she couldn't take it anymore. To her, she probably believed that she ruined her reputation, her mother's reputation, and the reputation of wrestling as a whole to a lot of people.

In Japan, public figures are scrutinized to a level far worse than most western countries know. Hogan, for example, has pretty much recovered from his career imploding. But in Japan, if you make one mistake that can't be spun as a comedic goof-up, you're basically fucked for life. No matter what you do, people will constantly tell you that you're a failure and an embarrassment to your family. That kinda shit weighs on your soul. No matter how far removed she could have gotten from it, there would always be one or two obsessive cunts in the comments telling her that she needed to die over a stupid ass TV show.

Hana decided that taking her own life to escape it was her only option.

This whole situation fucking sucks.
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Christopher Daniels - Sat, 23 May 2020 17:30:27 EST rWWSIM8P No.6397865 Reply
>>6397785
You do know that posts like this make the topic about you, right?

Let people make this about them, who cares. It's likely they can relate to Hana in some way, either they're both wrestlers, both women, both have been harassed on social media, both young, yadda yadda, the list goes on.

Awful shit like this affects people. Why does it matter to you if they want to post why it affects them?
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Miss Elizabeth - Sat, 23 May 2020 17:40:14 EST 7DNeRHPW No.6397870 Reply
Walked to work this morning, and almost lost my shit at a jogging milf for wearing an Adidas shirt with the exact logo of the cyberfuck that bullied Hana.
Thank god for oil cartridges, was able to take a hit and calm down a bit.
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Christopher Daniels - Sat, 23 May 2020 17:42:08 EST rWWSIM8P No.6397873 Reply
>>6397869
I feel like I was pretty clear in my post. Events like this affect others. It bothers me when someone wants people to not post about how awful shit affects them. For all we know, there could be someone out there whose affected badly enough by this that they think about suicide themselves, and yet people like the guy I quoted would rather they shut up than talk about how they're affected.

It's non-empathetic; it's fucked.
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Joey Ryan - Sat, 23 May 2020 17:46:06 EST 9fzbZUn9 No.6397876 Reply
Kenny and Cody should have made the call.
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Chief Jay Strongbow - Sat, 23 May 2020 17:46:37 EST 89OucTXK No.6397877 Reply
/wooo/, I just want to say, please try to get some help if any of you are ever feeling suicidal or if you want to hurt yourself. You can't take it back and there's so many people who will love you and be affected by it. Same goes for writing mean shit to people online. You can't ever know what that person is going through.

That's really all I have to say because this whole thing is infuriating to me. RIP Hana.
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Pacman Jones - Sat, 23 May 2020 17:51:33 EST 4gmh45ky No.6397878 Reply
>>6397810
The context is people like you thinking these types of shows are generally positive despite the fact that mutliple people have committed suicide. Your response: "derp everything bad all time everywhere anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

There's no pedestal. There's just you making excuses and not wanting to confront yourself. Wrestling literally has a show called "Dark Side of Ring", it acknowledges it's own darkness. Hey, but you know what? If coming to w wrestling forum and equivacting the art professional wrestling with a show called "Love Island" is what gets you to sleep at night, who am I to keep you from a solid 8 hours?
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Kurumi - Sat, 23 May 2020 18:01:25 EST 5bFvbLsD No.6397883 Reply
>>6397878
Are you genuinely retarded? Someone asked me what happened during the show, I offered an account of what went down. You came in like a petulant child screaming "omg who cares?????".

A person dies and your self-centred ass uses it as an opportunity to look down on others and propagate that cycle of vitriol you're complaining about. There's arguments to be made about reality television and that's been done in this thread perfectly fine but your post in particular was just an excuse for you to feel better than others by offering the same kind of argument people make against professional wrestling not being for "actual adults". Hell, Hana chose to go on the show herself as a fan of it. Is she not an "actual adult"? Besides, Dark Side of the Ring isn't endorsed by WWE or whatever companies they choose to criticise so I don't know what the fuck you're on about. Get some self-perspective, man, come on.
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John Nord - Sat, 23 May 2020 18:22:52 EST Z96aJ4e0 No.6397889 Reply
Honestly the more I think about it the more this really does make me feel like it's wrestling's version of Yukiko Okada's death. Both of them being really young, really early in their careers, pegged and pushed as stars from the beginning and just starting to come into their own and take off before everything just collapsed mentally/emotionally for them and they took their own lives in a way that seems to have shocked and shook everyone regardless of how familiar they were with them.

I just hope that it doesn't lead to a spate of copycat suicides like Yukko's death did. I really think this is one of those things that's going to stick with people for a long time and not ever truly be forgotten.
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Godzilla - Sat, 23 May 2020 18:55:38 EST gG25R3HN No.6397902 Reply
Anyone got pics of the self harm she tweeted???
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Madison Rayne - Sat, 23 May 2020 19:15:34 EST 8yd+8s50 No.6397907 Reply
>>6397902
check the the future sticky.
if you want to see it, you'll have to deal with that
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Pacman Jones - Sat, 23 May 2020 19:18:55 EST 4gmh45ky No.6397908 Reply
>>6397883
I am questioning the type of person who makes moral judgement calls about people starring in a show whose premise is: "lol randoms in a candid camera house that might actually be a work". No one is "looking down" on you. You're mad because you're being questioned. Your shitty, gossipy need to "provide an account" is the impetus for the behavior that needlessly drove many people to suicide.

Your response: "Dur, b-b-but Hana did it!"

Yep. Now she's dead. Via suicide. Are the grasping the greater point, yet?

Dark Side of The Ring is about pro-wrestling as a whole. Why would it be endorsed by any one company? My point is there isn't a show called "Dark Side of Reality TV" as told by people still active in Reality TV, because the industry and the people who keep the industry going rarely pause to question what they are doing and why they are doing it.
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Tyler Black - Sat, 23 May 2020 19:43:46 EST l3aLX5fG No.6397922 Reply
This is absolutely the worst death in recent memory.

A 70-80 year old veteran dying of natural causes or someone who's been abusing drugs ODing is sad of course, but Kimura had everything to get really big and died so, so early.
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Nathan Jones - Sat, 23 May 2020 19:46:33 EST ZcoAes5B No.6397923 Reply
>>6397839
Even worse: they think it's okay, because their targets deserve it.
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Antonio Inoki - Sat, 23 May 2020 20:03:24 EST 5bFvbLsD No.6397938 Reply
>>6397908
Yes, me providing an account of what happened in a TV show is "gossipy" when someone asked what happened and I'm now somehow responsible for Hana's death for discussing it posthumously. What a leap in logic. It isn't as black and white as you're making it out to be. If it was all a "work", Hana wouldn't have been so affected by it.

People do questionable things with cameras pinned on them. It sometimes deserves criticism, especially when they're affecting others. Some retards take said criticism too far and invade people's personal spaces in order to spread their hatred. That was my point. I'm well aware reality TV can be fake but she contributed to the hate two other castmates were getting and that's very much real. That's also the fault of the TV show's editing, I know. She was a 22 year old girl that was obviously allowed to make mistakes, nowhere did I say she wasn't. It was probably the wrong time for me to say "she deserved some criticism" and I likely came off insensitive during a moment of shock. I apologise for that. But your insistence on blaming others just to morally upend yourself on a situation you're not even properly aware of isn't helping matters. You're just jumping to wild conclusions based on your presumptions just to one up others. You're not even thinking of the right show for fuck's sake, Love Island doesn't even air in Japan.
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Terri Runnels - Sat, 23 May 2020 20:28:23 EST /pL9vdJW No.6397959 Reply
>>6397273

This has really got me sad as hell, pals. Others have said similar things, but it feels like maybe I'm somewhat numb to older veteran wrestlers dying before their time? As morbid as that is. But a 22 year old who seemed destined to do great things dying by suicide is just the saddest shit. I was actually catching up Stardom over the last 2 weeks and I don't really see how I can watch Hana matches now. Will definitely take a while. RIP
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Teddy Hart - Sat, 23 May 2020 20:34:18 EST 4gmh45ky No.6397965 Reply
>>6397938


You keep accusing me of morally upending myself, but it doesn't really take someone of outstanding moral character to point out that it's gossipy to even know what happened on that show in the first place. All that other shit you wrote is one long boring pointless excuse for partaking in Reality TV. You watching that stuff, knowing what's going on with that stuff and not questioning your complicit role in that industry is exactly why you would utter something so insensitive as "she deserved some criticism" in the thread where people are mourning her suicide. I'm sorry, but those things are definitely related.

I know "Love Island" and "Terrance House" are different shows by their different names. I am (and have been from the beginning) questioning the entire industry and the people who take part in it.
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Jaki Numazawa - Sat, 23 May 2020 20:37:23 EST hcUFcp+9 No.6397971 Reply
SportsNippon reporting that Rossy said her mother, Kyoko Kimura, was the one that found her dead. Can’t imagine anything worse for a parent than seeing that
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Arn Anderson - Sat, 23 May 2020 22:00:41 EST oWLdzxNc No.6398037 Reply
>>6397858
agreed people seem to forget japan has such a strict culture that they have a suicide forest because students and others feel so bad and are shamed for their mistakes so hard they feel they have no other way to atone other than by death. she honestly must have felt like she let everyone down all because she was passionate about something. if you look at a clip of what caused all this i dont see a bad person you can hear the passion in her voice and how deeply she cared for that outfit and for wrestling in general and everyone sorta just stared at her like she was crazy or somethin.
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Junkyard Dog - Sat, 23 May 2020 22:05:03 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6398042 Reply
>>6398006

I am not talking about you specifically, but people using this as some kind of GOTCHA! moment where they can blame Bushiroad for everything are getting on my fucking nerves.

Sure they should have checked in on her after, and we will never know if they did. We just don't know much about what happened. The thing people don't realize is

  1. Your employer are not required to babysit you 24/7. They should check in on her for sure, but other than checking in and saying "hey Hana we noticed you have something that looks like cutting scars, are you ok do you need help?" there isn't much you can do. Even if they sent people to check on her daily the sad fucking reality is that if someone wants to take their life they will find a way to do it. Again we don't know anything about what happened here but people screaming about Bushiroad ignoring it may not be correct.

2. Cultures are completely different. Japan's culture on suicide is not nearly as (I can't find a good word so I will say "strict") as ours. Japan takes suicide seriously but they are also much more tolerant to the idea of it. It's a sad reality and very different than American culture.

That's not to say they are accepting of it, but they just don't take it as seriously as us. They have gotten more serious about it since the 90s but the fact Bushiroad didn't react as we would react in our country is possibly a culture difference. All we can do is hope it opens a conversation in Japanese culture to take situations like this different.


Trying to place the blame on any one person/company is just wrong in my opinion. I get people want someone to blame but in all likelyhood there isn't one person to blame. All we can do is mourn
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Tony Mamaluke - Sat, 23 May 2020 22:10:31 EST GXHNtkkw No.6398047 Reply
also in Japan it's a big loss of face if word gets out that you died so you have to be a really big name like the Golgo 13 dude to get work after you die
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Crimson - Sat, 23 May 2020 22:43:48 EST H4JkCY3Q No.6398083 Reply
>>6397965
If by "the industry" you reality TV then you are on to something. I have a cousin in Florida who works in reality TV production. They have software that, once they have enough voice samples, they can use to make audio of you saying anything. My cousin demonstrated this at a family reunion by pulling up the software on her laptop and making some guy say "I like potato chips". And that's just the stuff she was willing to share, so who knows what other bullshit goes on.
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Terry Funk - Sat, 23 May 2020 23:48:25 EST T27T75Qv No.6398130 Reply
>>6398006
some dude in the comments called it out as well 2 WEEKS AGO

goddamn it
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Grandmaster Sexay - Sun, 24 May 2020 00:02:47 EST kKTlr14f No.6398148 Reply
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This is a sad death that didn't need to happen. We need to advocate education on this issue. The whole thing could have been avoided if both sides learned proper laundry etiquette when using shared facilities.

  1. Don't keep your laundry sitting in a machine for hours, it is not only rude, but you put your items at risk.
  2. Always check the machine before you fill and start your own load. This helps not only your own laundry from getting ruined due, but it helps avoid situations from people leaving of accidentally forgetting an item while doing their own laundry.
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Who - Sun, 24 May 2020 02:54:21 EST 4nbY1wSv No.6398189 Reply
>>6398006
>>6398101
>>6398130

Sadly as much as some might look at that and go "why the fuck did noone help her" I know first hand that such things being noticed can actually make things worse.
It is an impossible balancing act, both for someone wanting to help and the person in trouble.
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Who - Sun, 24 May 2020 03:08:09 EST 4nbY1wSv No.6398192 Reply
For anyone wondering about Hana's cat, it is okay and currently being looked after in the Stardom's dorm.

Umemura Hinako drummer of the band Silent Siren is the one who gave Hana the cat just a couple of weeks back, presumably she had been fostering it or something. Hinako had made a blog post about the whole situation including wondering how the cat was doing and then later tweeted that Kyoko had been in touch to say it was fine.

https://twitter.com/hinanchu_twtr/status/1264305499207372800
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Bobert ROOO - Sun, 24 May 2020 05:39:18 EST c9e+ZAM8 No.6398207 Reply
I've been hearing that a lot of the harassment Terrace House fans were sending Hana was xenophobic insults because her dad's Indonesian, so racism was also a big factor here.
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EITAmaniacs !hc1Z1.0piQ - Sun, 24 May 2020 07:40:23 EST rh1YhD/u No.6398225 Reply
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Very likely cause of suicide was hydrogen sulfide, first person to check on her was her mother, later Kyona was here too. Kyoko has been tweeting about it too. Before her death, a cat was put in the casket outside office door. The cat was probably foster because of her IRL friend found cat and gave to Hana. Imagine when you're living in Japan, you're half indonesian half japanese and people in childhood were bullying you for mixed heritage and more worse ways happened in forward to adulthood(xenophobic, racism on daily way, social media). One thing you wanted in your life was bringing more people into wrestling.
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Nikki Bella - Sun, 24 May 2020 10:06:44 EST KPWJcCx3 No.6398271 Reply
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>>6397396
I kinda feel like if I just repeat that it's all a work, she'll stroll down the aisle at WK in a surprise entrance.

I know I won't see it, but I want to keep hoping.
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Scott Parker - Sun, 24 May 2020 11:50:16 EST OQ61wUqJ No.6398329 Reply
>>6397878
>i am absolved from the being complicit in the seediness of the pro-wrestling industry because.. i watched a documentary once
talk about glass houses lmao
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Ed Ferrara - Sun, 24 May 2020 12:09:05 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6398335 Reply
>>6398315
>You cheered me up.
>We were friends.
>She loved me.

>I'm sorry I couldn't protect you.
>I'm sorry for the hard feelings.
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Bad News Brown - Sun, 24 May 2020 12:12:26 EST K20kw6yS No.6398337 Reply
>>6398148
at every laundromat I've been in, the others all don't give a fuck about don't s number 3 and 6
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Arn Anderson - Sun, 24 May 2020 13:08:18 EST oWLdzxNc No.6398350 Reply
>>6398225
ahh that would explain it entirely then she did get found but then at some point fled and got into the chemicals. japan had a huge wave of people dying via mixing of various cleaning chemicals a while back. also

>somebody put a cat in a coffin to mess with hana

people need to fuck off like seriously just let people live their lives who cares what they do or who they are though honestly this sorta thing really makes me wonder how many other people in wrestling deal with this sorta thing? i recall taichi and taka mitchinoku both got caught cheating on their wives or whatever do they get shamed into oblivion daily and just ignore it?
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Neko Nitta - Sun, 24 May 2020 13:15:46 EST Z96aJ4e0 No.6398352 Reply
This is that Emika girl that Hana apparently was originally competing with for that basketball player. Seems like they were actually pretty good friends IRL and she was one of the last people to see Hana in the hospital or at least tried to see her in the hospital.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CAjg3c-HdY2/

>That night, I just happened to be up late, so I saw her post on her story and casually replied as usual. We spoke for a bit, but something felt off, like she was not her usual self, and then she stopped replying entirely. I got worried and then saw her posts on Twitter, and rushed to her house. Unfortunately, when I got there, she was not there, so I rushed to the hospital. At the hospital, I saw a completely different person. On my way there, a part of me had believed that she was still alive. And even if she was ok, I still wanted to give her a big hug and let her know that there are people who will run to her side, that the only place she can hurt herself is inside the ring.

>We had plans to go on a trip together once she leaves the house, to drink together until we’re completely wasted, and to catch up over a meal soon.

>When I was on Terrace House, I also received a lot of heartless comments and was deeply hurt, which many of you probably saw broadcasted. “This is just part of being on TV.” “Die.” “Get out and leave.” Lots of people said things like this to me.

>But those in the public eye are still people with real feelings. Words can truly be weapons. It’s not a matter of those in the public eye having to know what they’re getting into, or being too mentally weak.

>We need to get rid of the idea that you can say anything about someone just because they’re famous.

>No matter how hard I grieve, she’s never coming back. I can’t see her smile. We can’t get meals together. I can’t forget what she looked like in her last moments. I was devastated to see her like that, and I still don’t wanna believe it.

>Hana, we fought sometimes. But we also had lots of fun, going shopping and watching movies together. We goofed around together, and also supported one another. You looked so cool and tough when you were wrestling, but when it came to dating and romance, you were so adorable. It’s devastating to think I can never see you again. I hope you are resting easy. Please take care. No one can hurt you now. Thank you for coming into my life. I’m sorry I couldn’t help you.

>Rest In Peace.
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Johnny C. - Sun, 24 May 2020 13:29:55 EST d2INvpQe No.6398364 Reply
>>6398350
There wasn’t a cat put in a casket. Hana put her own pet cat in a basket outside the Stardom office. Everyone is helping take care of it and they’ve not yet decided on who will keep it.
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Who - Sun, 24 May 2020 15:15:42 EST 4nbY1wSv No.6398406 Reply
>>6398352

Thank you for the translation. I saw that quoted somewhere else in japanese this morning but the translation I managed was a mess.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 24 May 2020 21:31:14 EST +bTXA6lG No.6398575 Reply
>>6398225
Japan has a long history of xenophobia and bullying based on being half-Japanese or Korean or Burakumin or whatever. It's more of a reason why they need to actually pass civil rights legislation but god knows they never will. I didn't even realize she was half-Indonesian since one of my friends is but that puts things in perspective.
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The Red Rooster - Sun, 24 May 2020 23:06:12 EST HDYHkhYg No.6398605 Reply
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>>6398590
She's half black? Probably explains why she like afros and weed so much.
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Cody Rhodes - Mon, 25 May 2020 00:16:55 EST 7ZkLLCFc No.6398617 Reply
>>6398605
>>6398613
I looked into it. Her mom is half black, half Japanese.
Though not much is known about him, Hana's father was an Indonesian national.
So Hana Kimura was apparently 25% Japanese, 25% black, and 50% Indonesian.
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Mon, 25 May 2020 00:19:44 EST PPc0gdwd No.6398618 Reply
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>>6398590
>>6398605
I'm not sure if Kyoko's deal was that she was half-black or if it was just a gimmick like Natural Vibes was in Dragon Gate. Someone with better Japanese knowledge would have to tell us.

There's a massive taboo around drugs in Japan, even weed, so Kyoko doing a rasta inspired thing fit in with the "sleaze"/counter-culture vibe of the hardcore indies she often took part in.

Also, Japanese subcultures sometimes draw on black aesthetics, sometimes going overboard/being heavyhanded. Sometimes you'll see a gyaru/gal/ganguro|"Kuro Gyaru" going so deep into the look it's getting into a weird blackface thing. So dressing like a black person (or rather, in their minds what they think a black person looks like), for lack of a better term, is thing in Japan, if on fringe.
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Lana Star - Mon, 25 May 2020 00:58:42 EST auWQDiEK No.6398631 Reply
Here's a random bit of trivia.
The WWE Network launched in 2014
As of 2015, AOL dial-up still had 2.1 million customers

That means that AOL dial-up in 2015 had more users than WWE Network ever has.
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EZ Money - Mon, 25 May 2020 02:04:55 EST 4gmh45ky No.6398643 Reply
>>6398329
You're welcome to start a "pro wrestling is seedy, why do we do it /wooo/?" thread if you think that will cure the seediness. You're also welcome to stop watching and stop participating. You're welcome to express to me and every one here exactly why Pro Wrestling and Reality TV are the same artforms with the same merit or lack thereof.

Otherwise, you're just another dismissive bullshitty hot take. I'm sure, you thought that was clever though. And that's the sad part.
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Ebessan - Mon, 25 May 2020 02:47:17 EST irisI6j9 No.6398651 Reply
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A Youtuber is now calling this an example of "Cancel Culture" and basically made Hana's death an opener to the dumb Youtuber Drama. Why are people like this, /wooo/?
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Cody Rhodes - Mon, 25 May 2020 02:51:16 EST 7ZkLLCFc No.6398653 Reply
>>6398651
It's neither here nor there but... if we're being honest, it actually was a byproduct of cancel culture due to crazed stans of people on Terrace House.
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Ebessan - Mon, 25 May 2020 03:05:54 EST irisI6j9 No.6398661 Reply
>>6398659
forgot to mention that even if it was cancel culture I personally feel that Hana's situation deserves a video all to itself and not be the opening act to H3 and Keemstar's drama.
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Ebessan - Mon, 25 May 2020 03:08:54 EST irisI6j9 No.6398664 Reply
>>6398660
No it's a Repzion video about the H3H3 vs. Keemstar drama. But he added Hana to ride on the clicks... I guess?
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Ebessan - Mon, 25 May 2020 03:16:41 EST irisI6j9 No.6398667 Reply
>>6398666
someone shared the video 'cause it talked about Hana but nope just Drama.
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Cody Rhodes - Mon, 25 May 2020 04:26:44 EST 7ZkLLCFc No.6398679 Reply
>>6398659
That was really scummy and made them at least somewhat at fault, whether they'll ever take any kind of blame is doubtful though. The "nicest" thing they've done is just scrap airing the rest of the episodes.
But yeah, her death was a combination of factors, one of which was related to callout/cancel culture going in on her because of a goddamn dumbass reality TV show intentionally wanting her to look bad for drama, which lead to twitter stans relentlessly harassing her not just with typical twitter posting, but tagging and posting on her profile itself.
Part of me has been wondering if her not making her account private or just completely ditching social media entirely was because an agent, producer, and/or promoter forced her to be on social media to advertise the show she was on and things of that nature?
We'll likely never find that out...

But that would point to someone having to shoulder the blame by forcing someone with depression problems to use social media somewhat against their will (especially if it was in writing that they had to), despite there being examples where people with mental illnesses can wind up way worse off by using them, and ones that don't being able to reclaim some happiness and mental stability by staying away from them.

I know people that have mental illnesses who have told me that theirs was far worse when using them compared to when they deactivated them and still never came back. Sometimes not bothering with any of that can be far better for your mental state and overall wellness. Just find different ways to stay in touch with people you care about. It worked before social media became this all encompassing part of people's lives. It can and does obviously work again.

>>6398664
I have no idea who any of those people are. lmfao
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Ebessan - Mon, 25 May 2020 04:39:37 EST irisI6j9 No.6398680 Reply
>>6398679
>I have no idea who any of those people are. lmfao
Consider yourself lucky
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Axl Rotten - Mon, 25 May 2020 09:55:24 EST Ap+75LoI No.6398712 Reply
>>6398666
Drama channels are bigger than ever now that almost every single one of them goes after literal rapists, groomers and abusers (and doing such shitty job at it that they most often then not get away with everything).
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Skinner - Mon, 25 May 2020 12:00:51 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6398730 Reply
>>6398679
One of the big drama youtubers made two videos about how "Cancel Culture" killed Hana Kimura. Nevertheless these videos are sandwiched between 100s of videos calling to attack/making fun of/bullying people because they are not like him (Straight white male).

It boils my blood and I'd call him out but if I did it anon I'd get ignored and if I used a real account his fanbase would dox me faster than you could say "Kurt Angle no don't moonsault"
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Kevin Dunn - Mon, 25 May 2020 14:04:10 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6398765 Reply
>>6398762
Yeah, I think Repzion did as well. Both of them have kiwifarms threads about them, so these are both retards on the internet with no sense of self-awareness
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Bobo Brazil - Mon, 25 May 2020 14:22:08 EST ZcoAes5B No.6398772 Reply
>>6398765
I mean Jeremy's always been a cunt so I'm not suprised, but I am legitimately disappointed in Repzion since he's usually pretty responsible and level-headed. I think the case of Hana does deserve a more serious look as it relates to internet culture, I even pointed out that the RIP trend was right next to people dogpiling Doja Cat for claims that have since been refuted. Online culture is largely psychotic and I think we need to look at how we act.

I mean a few days ago I was having a huge laugh at how in the midst of this H3/Keem drama some rando tried to call out Keem as being associated with the far-right because he's gone on the Killstream a few times, and it turned out his source was fucking Maddox of all people. But even as my friends and I were having a laugh at Maddox's latest fuckup I kept having this nagging doubt in the back of my head, like "what if Maddox eventually kills himself because of all of this?" I ultimately realized that if Maddox is a really bad case study to use in this because he's a misogynistic narcissist who people only laugh at because of his psychotic grudge against his ex for rejecting him that he projects onto Dick and all of Dick's friends, and what happens to Maddox is a result of his own shitty behavior towards others but you get the point. I think we should be more careful and think about the consequences and repercussions of what we're doing. Critical thinking needs to be more important going forward.

(If you don't know what any of this e-drama stuff means I'm not going to explain it to you, you're better off not knowing).
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Ebessan - Mon, 25 May 2020 14:22:52 EST irisI6j9 No.6398773 Reply
>>6398730
Honestly the worst part is that Hana's suicide was just the opener and H3H3 and Keemstar's E-Drama is the main event. Hana deserves her own video. That video he made was just fucked.
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Ebessan - Mon, 25 May 2020 14:27:40 EST irisI6j9 No.6398777 Reply
>>6398772
> I think the case of Hana does deserve a more serious look as it relates to internet culture, I even pointed out that the RIP trend was right next to people dogpiling Doja Cat for claims that have since been refuted. Online culture is largely psychotic and I think we need to look at how we act.

You mean that Hana's Suicide shouldn't be a footnote in an H3/Keem drama video??? But what about the clout?!
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Bobo Brazil - Mon, 25 May 2020 14:33:24 EST ZcoAes5B No.6398781 Reply
>>6398777
Like, okay, benefit of the doubt, here's my guess on how this thing happens: You have a video in the works, then something like the Hana story drops. You can't just *not* talk about it, but you can't just scrap your entire video either to fit the Hana thing in. So the end result is that you have to tack this thing on as a footnote to make it fit, which isn't great either. It's a no-win situation.
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Hillbilly Jim - Mon, 25 May 2020 14:38:31 EST Z96aJ4e0 No.6398783 Reply
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So what are the chances that WWE does a Hana tribute graphic or message tonight? I know typically in WWE Land if they didn't work for the 'E then they don't exist but this is a major global story that's been reported on every mainstream news outlet with an anti-bullying message attached to it and I can see WWE wanting the chance to jump on and moonsault like they do with all kinds of other shit. They might see it as positive PR after the Dark Side of the Ring stuff.
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Ebessan - Mon, 25 May 2020 14:41:03 EST irisI6j9 No.6398787 Reply
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>>6398781
Oh I don't know... Maybe send out a tweet instead? I mean it's more tasteful than making her a footnote on a drama video... or use her to put yourself over like DSP.
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Skinner - Mon, 25 May 2020 14:58:51 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6398796 Reply
>>6398787
Please tell me your shitposting and that DSP didn't invoke her name in any way
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The Warlord - Mon, 25 May 2020 15:01:09 EST oWLdzxNc No.6398798 Reply
>>6398773
it dont help that part of the stupid H3 keem drama trash fire is Keem being blamed for etikas suicide as if he was the one person ever who was telling the dude to go kill himself. this is the problem with things now a days you have these shitty drama channels and whenever somebody dies its WHO DO WE BLAME and if it comes out its related to bullying or harassment everyone those channels included almost always blames "cancel culture" or one sole person. while "canceling" some rando because they said a bad word when they were 9 and because of this they deserve to die in the street . simply put if you wanna call people out for shitty behavior cool you should but while doing that people should maybe consider not being shitty people themselves and also realize the difference between stupid "reality" shows and the people they actually are because 9 times outta 10 those people you think are awful are actually super nice. but then again these are also the same type of people who think anybody who gets married on the bachelor stays married forever because they really love each other.
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Ebessan - Mon, 25 May 2020 15:02:52 EST irisI6j9 No.6398799 Reply
>>6398796
DSP talked about her sadly and said he has thicker skin than her 'cause he's harassed for 10 years. So sadly he did invoked her name to put himself over and he blocked anyone he gave him shit for it.
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Axl Rotten - Mon, 25 May 2020 15:12:16 EST iLe2GkB4 No.6398805 Reply
>>6398651
>and basically made Hana's death an opener to the dumb Youtuber Drama
Disgusting.
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Ebessan - Mon, 25 May 2020 15:29:01 EST irisI6j9 No.6398811 Reply
>>6398806
Godspeed... I don't normally support ruining people's careers but DSP kinda deserve it for being an overall piece of shit.
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Machete - Mon, 25 May 2020 15:41:06 EST JyJS6uUQ No.6398817 Reply
>>6398783
I would like to think Asuka and Kairi will find a way to honor her somehow
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Ebessan - Mon, 25 May 2020 15:43:08 EST irisI6j9 No.6398821 Reply
>>6398806
>When was this.
It was on his Twitch Stream when #RIPHanaKimura was trending on twitter.
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STIGMA - Mon, 25 May 2020 16:35:05 EST n9eKBgQH No.6398850 Reply
>>6398772
> I even pointed out that the RIP trend was right next to people dogpiling Doja Cat for claims that have since been refuted
She refuted them in an apology post where she admitted she was on those racist tinychats?
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Kimona Wanaleya - Mon, 25 May 2020 17:38:23 EST V/M1yW6J No.6398879 Reply
>>6398850
No they were refuted by other people in the chat pointing out that Doja said nothing racist herself and that the racism was from a few trolls. FFS she's mixed Black/Jewish the idea that she's somehow a closet Tila Tequila is absurd.
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Rhino - Wed, 27 May 2020 13:23:37 EST kOfAOa1V No.6399659 Reply
I feel bad for her, but how was she a pro-wrestler when she was this sensitive? Hasn't she experienced heckling from crowds before? I think she was definitely in the wrong business in the first place.
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Chris Masters - Wed, 27 May 2020 13:27:15 EST XHVceXXl No.6399661 Reply
>>6399659
I'm pretty sure wrestlers these days don't have fans telling them hundreds of times a day to kill themselves during a show, buddy.
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Conor O'Brian - Wed, 27 May 2020 13:27:25 EST VbwA2ibK No.6399662 Reply
>>6399659
She got bullied all throughout her childhood for being half Indonesian. She probably had some sort of trauma because of bullying.
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Lena Yada - Wed, 27 May 2020 13:31:48 EST 4X1jF6ac No.6399665 Reply
>>6399659
Lots of wrestlers can handle crowd reactions but take personal attacks very differently. She clearly had problems that needed to be addressed but I feel like if she had never gone on Terrace House she would've been less likely to hurt herself. Going on that show likely made the insults too personal and too real.
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Chris Masters - Wed, 27 May 2020 13:58:23 EST XHVceXXl No.6399679 Reply
>>6399665
Yeah. A lot of people (on /wooo/ & a bunch of other places) tend to forget that pro wrestlers are actual humans, with emotions & shit. That kind of personal attacks can have an effect on anyone
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Jerry Lawler - Wed, 27 May 2020 14:45:15 EST oWLdzxNc No.6399692 Reply
>>6399659
people heckling you because of wrestling is usually good or can at least be twisted into something positive. people telling you to go die because of things you have no actual control over (how you were portrayed in a tv show or your race in hanas case) can very slowly chip away at people mentally. some people are just legit tougher and can ignore it or just have a non harmful coping method but no matter what having seemingly random people popping up wherever you are telling you to die can really fuck a person up.
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Johnny Saint - Thu, 28 May 2020 02:11:24 EST 4gmh45ky No.6400066 Reply
>>6399665
No question. Reality TV and those who are involved in it and support it are toxic. They are the same people who blame her and say she should have been criticized on Terrace House. Same people who are trying to using "what aboutism" and pointing to pro wrestling. The quality of support from pro wrestling fans is definitely better than what has been done by Reality TV marks when it comes to her death.

>>6399679

/wooo/ has nothing to do with this. I don't recall anyone on these boards ever saying something bad about Hana. It was reality TV fans from Twitter. Call it like it is. Stop trying to pass the buck.
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Johnny Saint - Thu, 28 May 2020 02:17:59 EST 4gmh45ky No.6400069 Reply
>>6399692
Hana was a child of the PRO-WRESTLING business. She understood those reactions. Wrestling fans definitely aren't to shoulder blame here. Racists and Reality TV Twitter were doing all the shit talking. You have to be a totally new kind of fucked up retard to think otherwise.

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