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- Sat, 27 Jun 2020 21:10:56 EST Rj8AuAaE No.6414386
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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James Storm - Sat, 27 Jun 2020 21:42:01 EST Tdli4nem No.6414396 Reply
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>>6414386
> requesting the HighREZ photo of Punk sitting Indian peace style in the ring at MiTB'11
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Daniel Bryan - Sat, 27 Jun 2020 23:07:19 EST vrv/yYo2 No.6414412 Reply
this had no impact on wrestling

it was just a 1 week decent feud
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Big E Langston - Sat, 27 Jun 2020 23:11:42 EST iMXUOOw0 No.6414413 Reply
>>6414391
What’s the third brand


fuck it doesn’t even matter what the third one is if DDP can just get squashed by Taker
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BxB Hulk - Sat, 27 Jun 2020 23:47:20 EST wfc4Nl90 No.6414420 Reply
>>6414412
Record breaking merch sales that plummeted the year after punk left...
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The Red Rooster - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 00:19:06 EST QQesQNiH No.6414425 Reply
>>6414412
lol That's not true at all
This promo was the first time I heard about people who weren't fans talk about wrestling in a LONG ass time
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Shawn Michaels - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 01:35:18 EST or3ydBJ8 No.6414434 Reply
>>6414425
lmao yet ratings didnt increase and SummerSlam '11 drew the worst buyrate for a SSlam since 1997
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James Storm - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 03:32:25 EST Tdli4nem No.6414442 Reply
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>>6414434
Pipebomb Punk and everything that followed is why we saw Daniel Bryan get a push, and why AJ Styles got to the WWE and won his first WWE World Championship within 24hrs of CM Punk losing his UFC debut. Punk is why we saw 205Live come into the fray and why so many talents who made it outside WWE actually get their shot. PUNK made it clear that fans have favorites outside WWE who weren't going to be sidelined or ignored when fans demanded they get their due. Punk thought of THE SHIELD as an angle and handpicked the members of it except for RR.

Mind you, RR's only reason for failing as a push is because at RR'14 when Punk was recently departed the WWE finally had their chance at getting one of the Shield over as a singles competitor if they only would have let RR take Punk's torch and lead the "Shield against injustice" towards Mania for the sake of letting the new school have a moment and end Evolution but no, Bootista beat RR at RR'14 and every year following was never going to capture that potential ever again.

Punk is the reason and cause of so much that followed his departure and that promo. I could go on and on listing how much a difference it made. In the end, normies heard and asked about him, and that's all that matters
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Rob Van Dam - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 07:12:55 EST zNyQb9LL No.6414454 Reply
The promo that brought me back to wrestling fandom

Makes me wonder if I would have ever grown out of WWE and watched, uhm, good fucking wrestling if this promo didn't happen
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Jamie Keyes - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 07:42:14 EST u7BkN8oI No.6414461 Reply
>>6414434
>a WWE PPV buyrate was down on its predecessors in the 2010s

no shit
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Terry Funk - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 11:26:47 EST Z8sZNZ36 No.6414482 Reply
Reminder that despite the myths that Punk's pipebomb promo didn't nothing for the business

The buyrate of the PPV didn't go up
TV ratings didn't go up the next week
There was no mainstream attention of buzz

If you claim you're one of the fans he brought back, the stats say he must have also turned some fans away
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Ivory - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 11:46:26 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6414485 Reply
The pipebomb single handedly kept me interested in Pro Wrestling. I hadn't watched since like 1999 and never really bothered. Two of my roommates watched WWE and I ended up watching a few episodes and making a prop bet Taker would lose at WM.

We watched the show together and generally had fun so I kept watched. Edge retired which sucked but then Christian won the title which I marked for as I remembered him. I went home for the year and kept watching and started marking for Truth. He got buried in (still in my opinion one of the worst PPVs of all time). My interest waned and the one reason I stuck around that night was to see if Truth was going to beat Cena and get a 2nd chance.

The pipebomb was pretty exciting because even as a fresh fan a lot of the things he said rang true with how I was feeling about WWE. I ended up sticking around and marked the fuck out when Punk won at MITB. Watched some of his older stuff through PPVs streamed by a really old streaming site (I wanna say it was Atchamania). Punk and Bryan (and Barrett but he isnt as applicable) became my boys and through discovering their pre-WWE stuff I branched away from WWE

I enjoyed most of Punk's run, and even shit like the Shield feud/Triple H burial didn't bother me so much. I dislike him immensely as a person but he was a pretty good performer. Still use the Anaconda Vice as a signature on my created characters
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Fabulous Moolah - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 11:51:17 EST NnKx8iFo No.6414487 Reply
You gotta remember how shit WWE was at the time too. The 10 minute diva tags with Kelly Kelly barely running the ropes, the same Dolph Ziggler and Kofi Kingston match over and over, peak Michael Cole heel commentary where he made everything about himself. And the only real alternative at the time was TNA which was doing drugged up Jeff Hardy vs Disappointed Sting at the time.
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Francine - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:02:13 EST J10K+5dU No.6414490 Reply
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>>6414482

That's fucking dumb. Punk moved huge amounts of merch, the MitB PPV did way more buys than previous years. It's like saying 3:16 didn't draw because it took 2 years for them to start getting level with Nitro and seeing overall benefits rather than huge merch sales. You know how Cena gets called a draw? The buyrates and ratings went down consistently while he was on top, he got booed out of buildings and when he finally went part time, ratings were at a record low.

How do you think 3:16 would have gone if, in the aftermath of him getting over huge and doing the promo, they made him work a boring as fuck program with Bob Backlund instead of Bret Hart?

No matter how entertaining and exciting the summer of Punk was, HHH did his best to cut its legs from underneath it. The big matches he had in the weeks made him look weak and he had to win dirty, I don't think he won clean a single time in the months after. Cena did his usual shit where he was in a hot angle, made himself the center of it, didn't job clean and ultimately remained the focus of the company, despite not having the title. Not just that, but when he did beat Cena at SS - not a clean win - he immediatley lost the title to Alberto Del Rio.

Then we move onto Triple H himself - he tried to be the face in the feud, he embarrassed himself on the microphone against Punk, Punk absolutely dominated Triple H when he was trying to be face. LOGICALLY, Triple H was starting to be seen as the authority figure we know him to be, he should have been the heel to Punk's anti-authority, anti-WWE shtick. Instead we get pic related.

You could also blame timing a little bit, with John Cena vs The Rock, which is fair enough as The Rock's return was always gonna be facing off with Cena and draw a ton of money. Regardless, the way the company handled it was amateurish, just like mostly everything they've done that vaguely gets over or gets mainstream attention, there is a reason that the company has seen ratings decline sharply over the past few years.
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Francine - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:07:47 EST J10K+5dU No.6414492 Reply
>>6414490

Oh and I didn't even mention how they decided to take the title off him at Summerslam, then make him work a program with 50 year old Kevin Nash, so Triple H could give his buddy a bit of work.

Punk was completely right when he said he didn't need to work with Haitch, Haitch needed to work with him. Punk was the hottest I'd seen a wrestler get since the 90s, only Bryan has come close since then, at least if we're counting faces only.
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Bradshaw - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:28:14 EST F5dkre4D No.6414496 Reply
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Fuck this promo.

There were probably 20 promos during the Russo era of WCW where guys shit on their booking and on the company and people are still making fun of it nearly 20 years later, yet Punk's version is the GOAT? Gtfo. Any promo that goes into "everything else is fake, but this is REAL" territory is stupid on a wrestling show. The follow up promos were even worse..."this phil brooks talking to paul levesque" and the Cena/Punk matches were all sloppy as hell and saved by hot crowds. This shit also birthed a whole new level of toxic smarkdom from fans.
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Athena - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 13:07:47 EST 6sH2hVyX No.6414507 Reply
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>>6414402
Reminder a /wooo/kie made this banner and made a thread about it the day of the PPV to get suggestions.
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Athena - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 13:09:10 EST 6sH2hVyX No.6414508 Reply
>>6414496
At no point in the Pipebomb does Punk ever break the 4th wall (except the tongue in cheek joke about it) or acknowledge wrestling is a scripted TV programme.
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Terry Funk - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 14:17:12 EST Z8sZNZ36 No.6414517 Reply
>>6414490
The PPV the month previous, no gimmicks with R-TRUTH in the fucking main event: WWE Capitol Punishment - 170,000 buys
Money in the Bank (2011) - 195,000 buys
Money in the Bank (2012) - 188,000 buys
Money in the Bank (2013) - 199,000 buys

RAW Ratings (pipebomb episode) July 11, 2011 2.9
RAW Ratings after the above episode and MITB PPB July 18, 2011 3.2

That's an increase but a completely normal increase, episodes in April, May and June all did better than 3.2
The episode the same time next year also did a higher rating
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Fixxxer - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 14:24:31 EST IHKDJk18 No.6414518 Reply
>>6414511

Yea, besides the "Hi Colt Cabana!" line, it was strictly in character and how he felt about the WWE product
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Fixxxer - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 14:26:48 EST IHKDJk18 No.6414520 Reply
>>6414412
>>6414482

People were glued online to see what Punk would do next. I remember Twitter going crazy for his appearance at, I think, Comic Con that year. There was a lot of buzz around it, and yes it did devolve into a mess because it's WWE, but the initial stuff was so good.
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Mean Gene Okerlund - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 15:13:21 EST J7l0rtB4 No.6414524 Reply
People look back at this time too fondly. Same with the Nexus. The pipebomb and match with Cena were amazing but it didn't take long for the bullshit to start. You've just had the best WWE title match in recent memory, maybe ever, so what does WWE do? Have fucking Del Rio cash in. They did the same thing when Bryan won years later. Fucking Orton cash in. I know Vince is supposed to like his faces chasing the title but when you have something that good, or hot, just give the fans what they want!

I feel like the hype is exaggerated too. Obviously the idea of someone like Punk shooting is going to get the wrestling world talking but that's just some bingo hall shit. I managed to get a mate who was a lapsed fan to watch the shows with me for a few weeks but he wasn't suddenly invested in the product, he was just curious about what was getting me excited. He didn't stick around long.
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Simon Dean - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 16:02:36 EST rqbeZnm6 No.6414529 Reply
>>6414526
>People were glued online to see what Punk would do next.
I wonder if it would've had any effect if they'd actually been watching or buying tickets or doing anything WWE actually paid attention to at the time. Probably not though.
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Fixxxer - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 16:09:43 EST IHKDJk18 No.6414531 Reply
>>6414529

Maybe, maybe not. But it did bring a lot of mainstream viewers back into the fold for a short period of time
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Kevin Von Erich - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 16:11:25 EST tzs2tHuX No.6414533 Reply
Stopped watching wrestling before this happened and I have to say that none of my friends or real life ever mentioned or brought up WWE or wrestling ever. Not even once. When this happened. Maybe not as maninstream as people think
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Greg Excellent - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 16:19:02 EST 4Cnx5Bom No.6414535 Reply
>>6414386
people who think this got any sort of mainstream attention or interest from non-fans are deluding themselves

the only attention this got was from lapsed fans with a casual interest in wrestling still and thats it
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Jerry Lawler - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 16:28:49 EST KLw0bX3K No.6414538 Reply
>>6414524

Defiantly this.

This was the time where I began to really tire of WWEs ham fisted booking, and I think I can safely assume a lot of people did as well. I think the heat from guys like Punk, and later guys like Bryan, was so hot that it masked a lot of the shit booking top to bottom. They fumble Punk’s heat but there are still things that keep your interest. Then they fumble Bryan’s heat and Punk’s gone in a bad fashion, and your patience just keeps getting eroded.

Add to that the wonders of the internet helping fans find alternatives, like the Puro Google Drive, ROH, BOLA DVD’s, etc and suddenly your patience is even shorter, and only going down. I look back now to that as the time where I began to get fed up, and judging by the way the Raw ratings went from steady decline to sharp decline, I wasn’t the only one.
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Dragon Kid - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 16:46:46 EST npmoWSca No.6414540 Reply
The after effects of this was WWE taking over the indies, signing all the talent, and then thinking they'd all instantly be over while doing nothing to get fans to care
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James Storm - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 16:50:55 EST Tdli4nem No.6414542 Reply
>>6414496
you are a fool to deny how many fans agree Punk was actively pulling from reality whenever he appeared in that character. That's why the day he ACTUALLY FINALLY WALKED OUT it was him solidifying the hype no matter how much he reminds people he's just a normal person like any of us that moment he became legend.
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Jervis Cottonbelly - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 17:05:34 EST GXxiN37g No.6414548 Reply
>>6414540
As the other anon said the RECORD LOW RATINGS are a definite after effect too. As even the most casual fan it was impossible to look at how this went down and still think WWE had a clue, dude went from going over the company's top guy on PPV twice to a bit player in the Kevin Nash texting storyline in a matter of weeks. Once all that was over with his PPV title matches sat early in the card under such legendary main event encounters as John Cena vs. Johnny Ace. He still 'made it' enough to change perceptions and attitudes, thankfully, but with the overwhelming evidence that WWE can't book the guys that people watching liked, it wasn't enough to change ratings.
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Simon Dean - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 17:25:02 EST rqbeZnm6 No.6414554 Reply
>>6414548
I thought RECORD LOW RATINGS came much later and spun out of the Roman push/Bryan retiring/RR fiasco, not Punk.
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Kevin Von Erich - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 17:29:56 EST tzs2tHuX No.6414555 Reply
>>6414539
Explain things? I wasnt even watching qrestling because 2007-09 was so bad I quit. I didnt watch the pipebomb until like 2015 and didnt care when it happened
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James Storm - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 17:48:18 EST Tdli4nem No.6414558 Reply
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>>6414555
> 07-09 so bad I quit
That's basically my point. If you weren't aware of the climate and booking from 2005-pipebomb then it won't ring as true to you or anyone else. Punk was a "voice of the voiceless" in the sense that fans really felt they had no say anymore. All the fan favorites were jobbed out for BMJ, to a point even Cena showed sorrow going over at times, on camera in the ring. After Punk, Cena even went against Vince when he realized there were "bad jokes" being played on Fans via Cena going over at times. Punk changed Cena for the better, ever since the pipebomb John made an effort to honor fans critiques a lot more fluently. You being ignorant of what Punk was really symbolizing is on you, not Punk. He captured lightning in a bottle. Twice.
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Dos Caras - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 18:13:58 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6414560 Reply
>>6414558
This.
However, the moment WWE caught on to the word "pipebomb" and advertised upcoming "pipebombs" on Raw...the concept was run into the fucking ground. It was no longer special, and felt like they completely missed the point of why the first one worked.
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Rich Swann - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 18:18:25 EST 4zJo/ELj No.6414562 Reply
>>6414560
WWE—and pro wrestling in general, really—has a habit of running something popular into the ground. That tendency intensifies when it’s something that gets popular organically instead of through marketing.
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Francine - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 18:20:59 EST J10K+5dU No.6414563 Reply
>>6414517

And as I said, 3:16 didn't immediately take off and bring in hundreds of thousands of viewers and extra PPV buys. It brought in more merchandise, just like Punk, whose shirt was fucking hard as hell to get and completely sold out.
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Brodie Lee - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 18:45:41 EST 22qf56s3 No.6414571 Reply
>>6414560
In 2011 I was still a stupid teen and I thought I was the coolest guy by sitting with my legs crossed like Punk did, and even then I could see that him ending his promos with PIPEBAWWWWMB was fucking kringe
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James Storm - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 19:17:46 EST Tdli4nem No.6414588 Reply
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>>6414560
Anything built organically like that and made into some weird corporate branding attempt at recreating it on a regular basis is bound to water it down and wear it out.

I mean, it's like knowing you have a surprise party coming, and were even allowed to see balloons on your way into the place. Let's be real, we know WWE did that on purpose as much as they did anything else to sabotage the angle.
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Jerry Sags - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 21:39:34 EST GXxiN37g No.6414632 Reply
>>6414554
It did but that's why it's an after effect, not a direct effect. Bryan getting a push and the fiasco thereafter was directly related to Punk leaving but perhaps indirectly too, with Bryan acting as a sort of vessel to Punk taking his spot in the HHH/Authority feud representing the bingo hall shitters/B+ players and 'winning the big one' for the little guys. To put it another way people who got burned once by Punk's aborted push probably got burned twice by Bryan's aborted push, it was a slow domino effect.
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Bobby Dempsey - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 21:52:31 EST 6sH2hVyX No.6414640 Reply
Here's the video of Punk "crashing" the WWE panel at Comic-con after MITB when he was "Champion in exile"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w6iviBEQDA
When is the last time any wrestling angle felt this real and unpredictable and was being carried out across multiple different avenues and platforms like this? It was extremely exciting and different and new at the time.
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Mr. Fuji - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 21:55:46 EST uvcoq2NK No.6414642 Reply
>>6414490
I know Mark Henry was a heel at the time but him winning the title would have ended Night of Champions on a better note than Haitch killing Punk's heat.
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Terry Taylor - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 23:44:24 EST 2JXG5vfK No.6414677 Reply
>>6414670
WWE killed all hype behind SummerSlam 2011 by having Cena shit all over Rey and bringing Punk back after a couple weeks. Also implying Punk would've been treated better had that PPV been a success ignores the awful booking of it that gave Punk, the returning hero, a dirty win over Cena and then having him immediately drop the belt to a heatless Del Rio right after being attacked by a 50+ yearold Kevin Nash.

They were never gonna run with Punk.
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Lash LeRoux - Sun, 28 Jun 2020 23:52:33 EST 4gmh45ky No.6414679 Reply
>>6414670

Imagine making it your "mission" to prove something to Punk smarks. Imagine getting personally gratification from it
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Zardoz - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 00:05:54 EST G0uyKAOX No.6414683 Reply
>>6414677
man I hated that. They only had him off TV for 2 weeks and then comes back with the new music and everything.

I remember at the time thinking he'd show up at random indy shows with the belt and shit like that. But no, he took a picture with the belt in his fridge and then came back after two weeks.
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Scott D'Amore - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 00:16:17 EST J10K+5dU No.6414686 Reply
>>6414683

Correct, people actually expected him to continue working like he did, then he shows up on a random TV after two weeks. He should have showed up at Summerslam. And this isn't just a hindsight thing, even at the time it felt like they were trying to take his heat away from him.

If WWE wanted to, they could have got behind it fully, but they didn't and HHH is petty enough that he probably holds a grudge against Punk for the crowd turning on DX that one time.
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Goldberg - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 10:49:05 EST BDs/s60R No.6414798 Reply
>>6414496
>toxic smarkdom



>>6414517
Were you under the impression the Pipebomb was the go-home show to MiTB? 'Cause it wasn't.

>>6414540
Bold of you to assume WWE cared about them being over.
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Tito Colon - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 10:49:07 EST gRIoYuuf No.6414799 Reply
>>6414686
DX and Triple H were staler than year old bread by this point and nothing much has been done to improve that.
tbh I like Triple H as a wrestler but Triple H's in-ring character for years has basically been "I am the professional wrestler Triple H, therefore you should cheer me"
I don't buy into rumours that would have you believe Triple H is jealous of Undertaker the man but he is 100% jealous of Taker's popularity and the fact you only have to play a church bell toll to have the entire stadium cum and shit with delight- Triple H presents his character as what Undertaker actually is.
I mean, remember when he stood in the ring and refused to fucking leave until he got the tiniest "Thank you" chant so they could use it in a video package the next night? Jesus.
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Goldberg - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 11:14:46 EST BDs/s60R No.6414804 Reply
>>6414670
Seems like nearly every year before that was doing the worst numbers since 1997.
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Lodi - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 13:32:31 EST Z8sZNZ36 No.6414841 Reply
>>6414684
Mark Henry is a proven draw, he increased Smackdown ratings as champion, Punk decreased them
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Scott D'Amore - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 15:37:47 EST J10K+5dU No.6414890 Reply
>>6414799

It only dawned on him in the twilight years of his career that the whole "sexy rebel bad ass" persona doesnt work when everyone knows you're the fuckin son in law
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Jonathan Barber - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 15:53:52 EST BCfQbN/x No.6414896 Reply
>>6414890
RAW walkout was one of the fucking most embarrassing moments of trying to get sympy they've ever done
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Tammy Jones - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 16:08:12 EST PvOQ6M5D No.6414901 Reply
>>6414896
Triple H seems to be the king of those. Summerslam 12 when he tried to milk an ovation after losing to Brock but failed miserably, that time he cried after Nash did something mean, etc.
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Dave Prazak - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 16:30:39 EST GQYFmdFo No.6414906 Reply
the fact we got a Freedom of Speech segment on 4th of July the follow-up week after The "Voice of the Voiceless" was silenced on LIVE TV still works me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJPAQ7XTcjk

Some of my favorite segments in all that were of John+Punk+Vince+JohnnyAce all in the ring together politicking like nothing we'd seen before or again.
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Vito - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 16:48:03 EST fveiqHyw No.6414913 Reply
>CM Punk has moved on with his life already
>Wrestling world misses him and he is still a controversial figure
>WWE acts like a bitter ex gf and doing its best by being petty and vengeful. even breaking up his friendship with Colt by circumstance.

I guess CM Punk was a draw afterall.
User is currently banned from all boards
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Jackson James - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 04:45:17 EST 4zJo/ELj No.6415079 Reply
>>6414901
>Summerslam 12 when he tried to milk an ovation after losing to Brock but failed miserably

Don't forget that he tried to do the same thing on Raw the following night.
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Buck Quartermain - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 05:03:56 EST OCRgUPBo No.6415081 Reply
Triple H was right in everything he said about him. Punk is that guy from school who you bump in to 20 years after you graduate and is exactly the same person into his 40s.
He is also responsible for ushering the simulated match era, where everything looks ultra contrived and not like 2 people actually beating each other up.
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Captain Lou Albano - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 05:20:55 EST Q9tloLmn No.6415082 Reply
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>>6415081
> He is also responsible for ushering the simulated match era,
the What?

> where everything looks ultra contrived and not like 2 people actually beating each other up.
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Sara - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 07:37:41 EST 6sH2hVyX No.6415099 Reply
>>6415079
and was met with hearty loud YOU TAPPED OUT chants from the LA crowd.
lmfao
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British Bulldog - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 07:50:09 EST 6RcvwRLi No.6415102 Reply
>>6415081
>He is also responsible for ushering the simulated match era, where everything looks ultra contrived and not like 2 people actually beating each other up.
EVERY SINGLE Triple H match features Triple H irish whipping the opponent, the opponent reversing, the opponent bending over to look at a shiny dime on the ground, and Tripe H brilliantly countering them by smashing their head into his knee, ANOTHER spot where he irish whips the opponent, the opponent reversing it again, ducking Triple H's clothesline and Triple H hitting the opposite rope and hitting a jumping knee, and one more INSANELY contrived extended "countering" sequence that I can't remember that relies on every single opponent making the same counters and mistakes from the exact same camera angle every single time. It's like John Cena's hypnotizing the opponent into countering a punch into his stupid backdrop every single time, only multiple times per match.

Every.

Singe.

Time.

Every single match the opponent gets locked in a stupid video game animation where they do things they wouldn't normally do. For 20 years, this has been every single Triple H match. Let's not hold him as some paragon of making wrestling look anything other than like a stupid, contrived, super-rehearsed choreographed dance performance.
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The Blue Meanie - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 08:12:52 EST BDs/s60R No.6415111 Reply
>>6415081
>Triple H was right

Yeah, just like he was during that passive-aggressive whine about people having the audacity to complain about some WWE B-PPV not even delivering on those pre-lowered expectations.

TWEET MY DISPLEASURE
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Sara - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 09:35:43 EST 6sH2hVyX No.6415133 Reply
>>6415111
The "Me & my friend Mark" promo will go down as one of the most embarrassing moments in his and WWE's overall history given the cataclysmic collapse in audience numbers both since then and overall in the past 20 years. The most tone deaf gotten to kind of response to the reality of you running off your audience and just digging the heels in and doubling down on it.
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Becky Bayless - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 10:25:17 EST DcPKIddZ No.6415142 Reply
>>6415081
>Triple H was right in everything he said about him. Punk is that guy from school who you bump in to 20 years after you graduate and is exactly the same person into his 40s.
Ehhh, I think anyone that read Punk's old blog back in the early 2000s can tell he's matured overtime.

>He is also responsible for ushering the simulated match era, where everything looks ultra contrived and not like 2 people actually beating each other up.
Have you seen a single Triple H match? Or anyone that Triple H mentored like Batista or Orton? Contrived, dumb spots seems to be more of a symptom of modern WWE as a whole, Punk was just there at the same time. Plus from what I've gathered, I don't think Punk had the pull to be able to script out his own matches, at least not entirely. He was still being produced by boring ass guys like Road Dogg and Billy Kidman, who's best matches when they were active were always okay or good at best, but never great or all that memorable.
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Headbanger Trasher - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 10:36:56 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6415144 Reply
>>6415133
It's very funny considering the talents they signed to NXT over time. Many of them would have been written off as "indy darlings" in a past era, and if you liked them, you were a filthy smark to WWE management. I guess they still had that mentality during that "my buddy Mark" promo. Just fucking embarrassing.
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Jackson James - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 11:02:49 EST 4zJo/ELj No.6415147 Reply
>>6415102
Wasn't there a match where someone in the crowd was yelling out Triple H spots before they happened?
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Mototsugu Shimizu - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 02:35:30 EST BDs/s60R No.6415366 Reply
>>6415144
This was during the reign of Neville still the GOAT NXT Champion so even then it would seem dumb.
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Leilani Kai - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 02:44:54 EST J10K+5dU No.6415367 Reply
>>6415133

If WWE had any kind of competitor, it'd probably be right up there with "butts on seats" on the Death of WWE documentary.

The dumbest fucking part was all the cultists calling his promo legendary and based, he is shitting on the fans, he is shitting on you - but it's those other fans. Not me. I'm in on the joke, haha. It's me and HHH laughing at all you idiots! Haha

*renews subscription and buys the new wrestling shirt dosed with pussy repellent*
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Ax - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 02:54:16 EST uvcoq2NK No.6415371 Reply
>>6414554
Jeff Jarrett was lucky Benoit and Eddie had already left WCW when his main event push started. Had they stayed I think it's highly possible the reaction to JJ would have been similar to Reigns.
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Mototsugu Shimizu - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 04:02:03 EST BDs/s60R No.6415381 Reply
>>6415371
JARRETT WAS A HEEL SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING FUCK'S SAKE
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Headbanger Trasher - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 13:49:41 EST jEGuiRVR No.6415472 Reply
>>6414881
>Blunder the hottest angle in years by inserting HHH & Kevin Nash and your usual LOLWWE booking bullshit
>Try to make it right by giving him a year long reign as WWE champion. But he only main events 5 PPVs out of 14 during that time

It's no wonder Punk walked out. Now imagine a world where Daniel Bryan and the yes movement doesn't happen. WWE would be on its ass and lose an insane amount of fans and general interest.
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Leilani Kai - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 14:51:17 EST J10K+5dU No.6415486 Reply
>>6415472

People theorised that the "Yes movement" stuff was partly motivated to annoy Punk.
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Mean Gene Okerlund - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 15:05:10 EST RgpMBobH No.6415488 Reply
Still weird thinking about how CM Punk's entire road to MITB 2011, including winning the WWE title itself was the last big moment for The Nexus faction, when all of the other members were taken off TV by that point.

>>6415472
Doubtful, especially when you consider that they were trying to give Big Show the Yes gimmick during the last few months of Punk's run. But I guess WM30 could've been their fuck you to him for leaving.
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Ultimo Dragon - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 15:47:37 EST ysIhfr60 No.6415491 Reply
>>6415488
The Triple H match probably was there as a fuck you to Punk since Haitch was to be his opponent. He was busting out Tiger Suplexes trying to show off that he could "wrestle"
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Prince Iaukea - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 16:00:49 EST Q9tloLmn No.6415499 Reply
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lack of Punk reaction images being posted here right now is disturbing
fkn big lot of text, mane
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Randy Orton - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 16:07:40 EST bbQBoWz2 No.6415502 Reply
>>6415472
>Now imagine a world where Daniel Bryan and the yes movement doesn't happen.

Batista becomes World Champion coinciding with his Galaxy of the Guardians blockbuster and then a big money match with Brock at SummerSlam.

instead we got Bryan injured and them reverting back to Cena as champion by default.
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Jinder Mahal - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 16:41:35 EST 6sH2hVyX No.6415516 Reply
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>>6415499
Punk was pretty great for reaction face material.
Not quit the reaction image machine that Cena was but still right up there.
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Shayne Hawke - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 22:08:28 EST Mq6sgpQ+ No.6415689 Reply
>>6415502
Coinciding? GOTG didn't come out until after Summerslam, never mind WrestleMania.

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