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1999-2000 Triple H

- Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:14:06 EST UBE3D9LV No.6414963
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Exclusively this era of HHH, what do you guys think of him?
Equinox - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:24:36 EST VbwA2ibK No.6414965 Reply
his best period, but still mediocre.
Mr. Fuji - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:34:51 EST uvcoq2NK No.6414969 Reply
Name wrestlers who were clearly better than him in-ring at the time other than Tajiri.
Rorschach - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:37:40 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6414970 Reply
Peak Hunter, and peak HUNTOR booking (aka, HHHwinslol), right?
Johnny Curtis - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 20:22:10 EST uvcoq2NK No.6414990 Reply
Steve Corino was also better than Haitch during 99-00.
Ken Kennedy - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 20:59:00 EST T27T75Qv No.6415009 Reply
the best run of his career

if he would've never wrestled again after 2001 people would look back at it fondly
Johnny Curtis - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 21:47:05 EST uvcoq2NK No.6415022 Reply
Little Guido, Super Crazy, Jerry Lynn and Blitzkrieg were all better than Haitch in 99-00.
123 Kid - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 22:00:20 EST e49QhppL No.6415024 Reply
Billy Gunn
Post-May 1999 Owen
Johnny Curtis - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 22:52:48 EST uvcoq2NK No.6415034 Reply
Saturn was a guy who everyone loved in the 90s but the vast majority of his work doesn't hold up.
Adam Bomb - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 23:16:48 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6415041 Reply
That first year in WCW from his debut to the match with Raven at Fall Brawl 98 to free the Flock is based as hell.
Good shit with Booker T, Goldberg, Chris Benoit, even Rick Martel
Johnny Curtis - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 00:12:43 EST uvcoq2NK No.6415052 Reply
Best match of Saturn's career was probably the Spring Stampede 99 tag.
Velvet Sky - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 00:19:07 EST 6dHk1vf7 No.6415053 Reply
The man who worked with the people who drew.
Jake The Snake - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 00:28:10 EST JH0Q6tZ9 No.6415054 Reply
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Listen I'm not a big fan of HHH overall but his 2000-2001 run is undeniable.
He had a nice catalog of matches during that run.

>Vs. Cactus Jack at Rumble 2000
>DX & Radicalz Vs. Rock n Sock & Too Cool on RAW
>Vs. Cactus Jack at No Way Out 2000
>Vs. Rock Backlash 2000
>Vs. TAKA on Raw
>Vs. Rock Judgement Day 2000
>Vs. Jericho Fully Loaded 2000
>Vs. Rock & Angle SummerSlam 2000
>Vs. Benoit No Mercy 2000
>Vs. Angle Rumble 2001
>Vs. Austin No Way Out 2001
>Vs. Taker WM X-Seven
>Vs. Jeff Hardy on SmackDown
>Vs. His Quad & Austin Vs. Jericho & Benoit on RAW
Mio Shirai - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 01:02:14 EST LtvAlZOW No.6415057 Reply
2000 Tripper was incredibly good. He had some great opponents too, but his only stinker was Mania, and that wasn't his fault.
Johnny Curtis - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 01:12:58 EST uvcoq2NK No.6415059 Reply
Anyone like Booker T's 1998 better than Haitch's 2000?
Mima Shimoda - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 01:24:38 EST HKjEPP20 No.6415060 Reply
>DX & Radicalz Vs. Rock n Sock & Too Cool on RAW
This match is only notable because the crowd fucking insanely hot for the whole match and Kane's best return. The match itself wasn't anything special.
Mike Tenay - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 01:29:51 EST uWPOtgY+ No.6415061 Reply
I enjoyed is heel stuff as a kid. Pretty good Haitch era.
Ken Kennedy - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 03:18:02 EST T27T75Qv No.6415068 Reply
The match was fun as fuck
especially since Radicalz had just jumped ship too
Nicky - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 03:39:42 EST UBE3D9LV No.6415071 Reply
I actually checks and apparently Kane wasn't even returning, he was on Raw and SD the week prior.
Johnny Curtis - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 04:04:19 EST uvcoq2NK No.6415072 Reply
Booker T held his own against Benoit, Finlay and Martel in 98 whereas Haitch really felt like the clear "worst" of the bunch working opposite Foley and The Rock.
Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 04:19:55 EST M1ahJWky No.6415073 Reply
>The match itself wasn't anything special.

pure meltzerism. the match was special BECAUSE the crowd were hot. The fact that people still remember it twenty years later is testament to that.
Jackson James - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 04:53:11 EST 4zJo/ELj No.6415080 Reply
>the match was special BECAUSE the crowd were hot.

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If you watch the match without crowd noise or judge it strictly on the merits of the in-ring action, it was mediocre at best. But the hot-as-fuck crowd enhanced the match—they made it feel like a massive spectacle. It's a lot like the classic Do Fixer vs Blood Generation match in ROH: The end rush is a bunch of disjointed flippy shit with little-to-no psychology, but god-fuckin'-damn if that crowd doesn't make it all feel hype as fuck.
Bill DeMott - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 06:07:30 EST X3HfNDOH No.6415085 Reply
99-00 HHH was clearly the worst of the top guys at the time but had some all-timers against Rock and Cactus. He got significantly worse after WCW folded and he came back as a babyface for that godawful run. All hope was lost when Shawn came back and HHH tried to employ the same melodramatic bullshit in his matches. Post-2002 Shawn and Hunter are genuinely two of the worst who have ever done it.

Match with ‘Taker at X7 fucking sucked btw.
Bill DeMott - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 06:18:13 EST X3HfNDOH No.6415086 Reply
All of his peers in the main event scene for starters. No fucking way even 2000 Haitch was better than Rock, Foley, Angle, Kane or Benoit. Maybe you could make an argument that he was better than ‘Taker and Jericho but I’d still probably disagree.
Johnny Curtis - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 06:20:44 EST uvcoq2NK No.6415087 Reply
Not sure if anyone in WCW was better than Haitch in 2000.
Sugar Dunkerton - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 06:38:12 EST BxsoGG2K No.6415089 Reply
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>Post-2002 Shawn and Hunter are genuinely two of the worst who have ever done it.
Johnny Curtis - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 06:45:04 EST uvcoq2NK No.6415091 Reply
Their HIAC from 2004 is an example of how NOT to work a long match.
Bill DeMott - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 08:01:36 EST X3HfNDOH No.6415106 Reply
Anyone not drowning in WWE kool-aid wouldn’t even recognize that as a hot take. Shawn’s booboo ouchy-face melodramatic bullshit and WWE’s insistence that it's some of the best work ever actually ruined an entire generation of wrestlers. Look at Dusty’s NXT vs current NXT if you actually want a tangible, current example of this.

Shawn was better when he was coked up and God hadn’t told him that dramatically grimacing into the camera after another kickout was actually the way to work, bruther.

Sid, Terry, Dustin, Awesome, there were lots of dudes on that roster better than Hunter.

The Blue Meanie - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 08:14:53 EST BDs/s60R No.6415114 Reply
It was a fucking TV main event. Please limit your Meltzdowns to appropriate threads.
Adam Bomb - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 09:34:49 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6415131 Reply
>This match is only notable because the crowd fucking insanely hot for the whole match
That's what all pro wrestling should strive to achieve.
Ken Kennedy - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 11:44:24 EST T27T75Qv No.6415157 Reply
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>Post-2002 Shawn one of the worst


>Shawn was better when he was coked up

no he fucking wasnt lmfao
HBK in 1996-1998 legit sucks outside of like 5 matches. He was a terrible terrible top face and as the top heel he was drugged out of his mind every week. Non stop disappointments from him match wise. HBK pre-1995 and post-2002 are better than his physical prime years as a top guy. That '02 and on run cemented him as one of the WWE goats.
Ricky Reyes - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 13:17:36 EST PvOQ6M5D No.6415168 Reply
Cause he isn’t shit people just got sick of him for refusing to move down the card after getting stale.
Chri - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 16:28:57 EST zeSu9n1o No.6415225 Reply
He was an 8/10 that looked like a 6/10 because he was constantly booked as a 10/10.
Johnny Curtis - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 16:50:57 EST uvcoq2NK No.6415233 Reply
Juventud Guerrera in 1998 was better.
Hulk Hogan - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 17:33:35 EST T5Ycresu No.6415248 Reply
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L.A. Park >>>>> Triple H
Tammy Jones - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 20:53:32 EST rqbeZnm6 No.6415309 Reply
I completely agree. I think Shawn's a little overrated, but postcomeback the only really bad match I can think of (outside of the forced epic shit with Haitch) was his work with JBL where he was suddenly poor. And JBL fucking sucked against everyone who wasn't Eddie or Cena that one fucking time, so that's hardly Shawn's fault.
Mototsugu Shimizu - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 02:33:24 EST BDs/s60R No.6415364 Reply
Never said that. But again, please keep your Meltzdowns contained to appropriate threads.
Leilani Kai - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 02:50:27 EST J10K+5dU No.6415368 Reply
He sucked, but when he was heeling it up and working with wrestlers people actually wanted to watch like The Rock, Foley and Stone Cold, it was pretty good.
Leilani Kai - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 02:53:04 EST J10K+5dU No.6415370 Reply

I remember his little feud with Ken Kennedy because it was the time I realised Kennedy wasn't actually very good, HBK couldn't even get a good match out of him
Ax - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 03:00:39 EST uvcoq2NK No.6415372 Reply
Taker, Rey, Benoit and Matt Hardy were all able to get good matches out of Kennedy.
Mototsugu Shimizu - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 04:01:19 EST BDs/s60R No.6415380 Reply
I liked the one that ended with Kennedy costing himself the W 'cause he attempted to punch Shawn with his injured hand. PSYCHOLOGY!~
Johnny Saint - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 08:40:08 EST X3HfNDOH No.6415396 Reply
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‘02 and on is when he started having really shitty matches, where everything has to be masturbatory and overwrought with ‘emotion’ because wrestling is a booboo face kick out spectacle. HBK sucks and just didn’t understand pro wrestling as fundamentally as the WWE would like you to believe. If you like bad wrestling that’s fine, I love SHLAK, but don’t pretend ‘02 and on Shawn is better than pre-injury Shawn. And it’s not like I’m overly fond of that HBK either.
Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 08:40:16 EST iLikEToleARn No.6415397 Reply
Then, and triad leaders draw him once ROH and new japan wrestler on the main event up to shit on the card to be masturbatory and overwrought with ‘taker and roman were all already after NXT.

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