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- Wed, 29 Jul 2020 15:47:53 EST T5Ycresu No.6425005
File: 1596052073713.jpg -(57510B / 56.16KB, 1280x720) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Social Media Thread: Bon Voyage to Kairi Edition
Last thread hit da bump limit, y'all know the damn rules, no politics or waifu shit

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1288520141970513921
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Wed, 29 Jul 2020 16:07:51 EST wwkx+h7B No.6425014 Reply
Arrigato, Kairi-chan!
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Francine - Wed, 29 Jul 2020 17:14:54 EST zqi+VxBd No.6425072 Reply
>>6425048
wonder who was desperately reporting them or just flooding it with login attempts to get them suspended
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Tori - Wed, 29 Jul 2020 18:17:42 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6425108 Reply
>>6425072
I think bored people are fucking around again. Square(ed)circle got brigaged today with someone posting one of the Excalibur vids (Either of the two n-word videos or the retarded person one) every 10 minutes or so for like 3-4 hours straight.

While it was absolutely hilarious to see 1/2 unironically shill for AEW (claiming it was in the past pls stop), 1/4 calling for blood, and a few level headed people explain the differences in performer/actor (esp in the mid 2000s) it was fucking strange. It obviously was making the rounds but I've never seen such a concentrated and consistent effort
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Lance Hoyt - Wed, 29 Jul 2020 19:06:53 EST fz6w4bsH No.6425157 Reply
>>6425108
it's coming from that loser mark ass nobody alcoholic Stephen Carrier and his network of ragshit tabloid gossip sites that infect your machine with spyware and malware, and they steal news from The Observer and claim it as their own, simply outright make up "news" stories or post word for word Brad Shepard fanfiction and post shit like Perro Aguayo dying or Silver King dying or stolen nude images of female wrestlers and all other manner of such vile car crash clickbait shit that only the lowest of the low would find titillating. He has a vendetta against AEW and Tony Khan who rightfully called them out a few months back for being total tabloid clickbait ragshit gossip pushers with no morals who only want clicks and dont care how they get them, and he refused to grant them press access for Double or Nothing I think.
Carrier has been using his network of bot driven websites (PW Stream, Ringside News, PW Mag and a few others) to push this Excalibur story hard the past few months to try and "get" at AEW and push them into the crossfires of the Twitter cancel culture hordes cos he has a personal vendetta against them. He is a fucking drunk ass loser (check out his multiple DUI/public intoxication records they are a matter of public record you can find online) Him and his "news websites" are a fucking cancer on the industry as a whole and this is just another example of it.
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The Esperanza - Wed, 29 Jul 2020 21:06:46 EST fz6w4bsH No.6425234 Reply
Here's Carrier gloating and antagonizing people on his dummy accounts about the Excalibur situation;
https://twitter.com/ringsidenews_/status/1288609546060075009
https://twitter.com/ringsidenews_/status/1288628176491630592
a Tweet they retweeted from a mark who tagged Cornette and his lackey showing this is being done purely for fanboy console war vendetta purposes;
https://twitter.com/worldtitlebelt/status/1288597421065293824
https://twitter.com/PWStream/status/1288629418634641412
what a pathetic piece of shit he is using and manipulating people just to "get at " AEW
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Rosa Mendes - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 00:21:38 EST buOGemQu No.6425396 Reply
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G4 is returning and they want better hosts than Cathy Kennedy or whatever her name is. Would you like Austin Creed hosting your vidya shows? Orton would, and He's the mascot of /wooo/.
User is currently banned from all boards
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Winter - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 03:43:11 EST NFFSlLHU No.6425428 Reply
>>6425396
Creed already has an in with one of the guys in charge according to Giant Bomb, so this campaign is fake.
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The Great Khali - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 07:48:44 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6425446 Reply
>>6425234
>>6425157
I think that this is a really good example of why people are so hesitant when another outrage sweeps through the Pro Wrestling world.

Excalibur (And Steen who is being left out of this) have explained what happened, apologized, and disavowed pretty much everything from PWG in this era. Yeah it sucks, but it was 2005 and they were PLAYING CHARACTERS and were pushed by the person on the receiving end of the promo (Human Tornado) to say those words. PWG had a streak of being edgy as fuck at that point (As did MOST media). It shouldn't be a surprise that PWG tried to push the envelope on racial storylines, many movies/TV shows/books did at the time. Watching PWG from the early 2000s its clear it had a streak of edgy racial storylines inserted because the world was much different back then where playing a racist was considered "edgy" and not "racist". Zayn had some edgy shit in PWG to, as did guys like Joey Ryan (Whose name is tarnished by other legitimate issues). To me this is like trying to cancel an actor for his role.

So Twitter gets flooded for the billionth time about this, from what looks to be (at first) a concentrated effort from one individual. The posts blast all over the world either without context, or fudged to make this seem like it was a very recent event. People who want explanation don't get any and it grows.

Meanwhile shitposts/WWE stans/ect take this as an opportunity to "get one over" on AEW. The best example of this is leddit. There is a subleddit known as SCJerk which is "making fun of squar(ed)circle (without getting the irony that they also use the same garbage website)". They have been spamming these threads to the main wrestling board for a day straight, usually with dubious titles to make it seem as if it wasn't a promo/it was recent. They then come running back screaming about how "Yeah they gave 5 good reasons why it should only be a warning to others in the future but those reasons are dumb why are they AEW shills?!" Someone new takes the baton and makes a thread (Telling users to not use the good reasons to excuse it). Repeat every 20-30 minutes for almost 24 hours now.

In the end Excalibur is mysteriously absent from Dynamite last night, and the show legitimately suffered from his absence. Warhorse and Ryder didn't get the rub they should have from commentary, and the boomers aren't reigned in and the commentary on some already bad segments becomes dire. A share of people (some geuinine and some just being cunts) are calling for his head for something that happened in a worked promo 15 years ago he has already explained and apologized for.
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Meng - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:45:29 EST Ta5ItinP No.6425539 Reply
I'm so confused by this Excalibur thing coming up now, judgments on him for stuff from 15 years ago aside, unlike the Sammy thing I thought this was all common knowledge well before AEW started
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Brandon Thomaselli - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:51:01 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6425542 Reply
>>6425539
not really "common knowledge" but I think most people who were aware of it were also aware that KO and Excalibur already announced it.

The problem is I don't even know where those apologies exist so they're not being as widely spread as the original problematic video.

For TK and AEW, its a PR optics thing. Even if he apologized for it, he'll probably have to apologize again using AEW's press connections and he might have to eat the 30 day suspension/sensitivity training like Sammy did. That way, TK can say he did everything he was supposed to do as the boss.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:52:35 EST TTvnUm7S No.6425544 Reply
Human Tornado's been defending Excalibur, which I'm not surprised - https://411mania.com/wrestling/possible-reason-for-excalibur-not-appearing-on-dynamite-last-night/

Excalibur has already apologized for it and it's stupid that one guy with a vendetta against AEW is digging this up again.

>>6425532
He's alright though not really a standout. He was part of AR Fox's stable The Skulk and tag team champions with him in EVOLVE.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 30-07-2020 11:55:18
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2 Tuff Tony - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:55:55 EST T5Ycresu No.6425550 Reply
>>6425544
AR Fox needs a contract too, hopefully he gets signed although I would rather see him sign to AEW and not NXT
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Generalissimo Takada - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 12:00:44 EST ihz+NeyP No.6425551 Reply
>>6425542
If they bend and penalize Excalibur for a 15 year old promo then they are spineless and are going to open a Pandora's box of shit. A lot of their featured guys came through CZW/Early PWG so I'm sure there's more forgotten shit. If you show that digging up dirt on someone is going to hurt them the mobs will keep digging.

This is why instead of parading and being over the top advertising being "sensitive and inclusive" you just shut up about it and be sensitive and inclusive.
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Brandon Thomaselli - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 12:14:04 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6425560 Reply
>>6425551
>This is why instead of parading and being over the top advertising being "sensitive and inclusive" you just shut up about it and be sensitive and inclusive.

but philanthropy is the future of marketing and the way brands R going 2 win
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Pinkie Sanchez - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 12:15:45 EST 2ZJH5N4E No.6425562 Reply
>>6425551
That's the main thing, really. The more you vocally parade how virtuous your company is, the more people will want to poke holes in that. Not to console war, but WWE has gotten that treatment for decades, why should AEW suddenly get a pass?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 12:17:12 EST TTvnUm7S No.6425563 Reply
>>6425550
He was good in Lucha Underground and I'm surprised that he hasn't been signed to a major promotion since then. I think he'd be a great fit for Impact's X-Division or MLW's Middleweight division.

>>6425551
I feel like AEW needs to take a stand and be like "while we do not condone what Excalibur has said in the past, he also has apologized and shown remorse for his actions and therefore we stand by him as our announcer for AEW" or something like that. If they punish him for a promo that happened a decade and a half ago, it's a slippery slope for other wrestlers being punished for promos and stuff they did long ago way before they ever major stars.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 30-07-2020 12:19:47
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Brandon Thomaselli - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 12:29:37 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6425568 Reply
>>6425563
i feel like AR Fox should have been signed by now to *somewhere*. Even MLW would have taken a chance on him.

TBH, there's something loopy about him. He sorta seems like a space cadet so I'm not sure what his professional reputation is behind the scenes in terms of how he interacts with management. There is also the gay porn video that has seemingly hounded him
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 12:43:57 EST TTvnUm7S No.6425573 Reply
>>6425567
Not sure why but he has expressed interested in going to Impact - https://twitter.com/famousb23/status/1288338660643885056

>>6425568
It's weird that he's gotten opportunities that he's made the most out of in LU and EVOLVE, both of which are no longer running shows anymore, as well as prominent indies like CZW and AAW and yet you would think those would get his foot in the door somewhere. He obviously made a mistake doing that gay porn video but other wrestlers have

I know Scorpio Sky was in a similar situation years ago where he made homophobic comments on Twitter and WWE ended up cutting ties with him playing Harold in the Team Hell No anger management segments but his career has rebounded since then. Then again, the same thing happened with Jay Briscoe and WWE rescinded their contract offer to The Briscoes and they've stayed in ROH ever since. It does depend on not only your personal reputation but also who you know.
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SoCal Val - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:22:45 EST 35I8LAXy No.6425593 Reply
>>6425563
The problem is that people have found a couple of clips of Excalibur saying slurs, and not all of them are from 2005. If we're going by personal reputation, you have to account for professional conduct, of which the PWG crew loved to indulge in cheap comedy until about 2017
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Bo Rotundo - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:29:19 EST EWiQh0da No.6425596 Reply
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>>6425593
Just give him the ole Sammy G. suspension and treatment and let's move on. I know Excalibur isn't a racist. We all know he isn't a racist. He was a dumb fuck edge lord in the mid 2000s and now it's biting him in the ass.

I'm not even a fan of the guys commentary that much but what the hell is supposed to happen here? Firing him is way overboard. Cancelling him is stupid and not helpful. Give him some sensitivity training and suspend him for a bit.

Solved. Can we move on now?
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:34:21 EST M1ahJWky No.6425599 Reply
Ok I didn't watch any PWG, but did he say these things as part of the act as a heel? cause if he was a heel that would be the opposite of racism as they are literally coded as "bad people"
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William Regal - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:36:36 EST RjQbN3Wm No.6425602 Reply
>>6425599
Yes, if I remember correctly Tornado was the Babyface and even went over in the next show.
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Lance Hoyt - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:38:03 EST ckNYskZm No.6425603 Reply
>Indies get over by being indie, rough, and authentic; they *have* to be, because there's no other way to survive. There's some off-color jokes and content, but that's the beauty of indies: if you want something different, you go find something different.

>Corp figures that the hot, indie, authentic thing is going to be the thing that makes them the most money.

>Corp buys out hot, indie, authentic thing.

>Indie thing is now forced to live by the standards of a mass audience that doesn't actually give a fuck about the product, but feels entitled to everything catering to them. Indie thing, which could only stand out and survive and grow to a popular enough state by being rough in the first place, is punished. The talent don't learn anything (if anything, they get more jaded), the audience gets an inflated sense of control that emboldens them further, and no one else takes chances to avoid angering the mob.

Like clockwork.

Gatekeeping works, and should be encouraged.
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Bo Rotundo - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:45:48 EST EWiQh0da No.6425604 Reply
>>6425603
Or maybe people just don't want to hear racist and homophobic shit for edgey 1999 tier humor anymore? I don't want to watch indies that have commentators saying that shit. Maybe I liked it when I was 12 years and thought Limp Bizkit giving the middle finger was super bad ass and cool.
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SoCal Val - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:49:13 EST 35I8LAXy No.6425606 Reply
>>6425599
PWG heels did all sorts of raunchy shit. SBS did racist stuff. Human Tornado did a pimp/domestic abuse storyline with Candice and Chris Hero. Adam Cole would literally tell his opponents the needed to suck his did and had at times made his knocked out opponents be on his crotch. Joey, well probably better not to mention Joey.
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SoCal Val - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:54:47 EST 35I8LAXy No.6425610 Reply
>>6425603
>Indies get over by being indie, rough, and authentic; they *have* to be, because there's no other way to survive. There's some off-color jokes and content, but that's the beauty of indies: if you want something different, you go find something different.

This parts kind of half and half. PWG was known for being irreverent in promos but honestly that only took them so far. It wasn't until they started really booking strong and putting on showcases with the right mix of talent that the word of mouth of them being a "supercard" made them start selling out shows consistently. Look back at shows from early 2010 and the Legion Hall is 3/4s full, then look at everything after Steen is champion and see how there's no room to stand in the venue.
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Jack Evans - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:55:39 EST 0f3IoHsI No.6425611 Reply
>>6425604
Then watch a different promotion. Even at the height of edgyness there were plalenty of promotions that didn't push the envelope
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 14:06:34 EST M1ahJWky No.6425616 Reply
>>6425606
>>6425602

So why the fuck is this even a thing????? This is retarded. People are trying to cancel a fucking character.

IT MAKES NO SENSE!!!

Do these people realise that if you're going to prosecute someone for saying something racist in character, you might as well cancel every single heel who smashed someone with a chair?
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Bo Rotundo - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 14:16:38 EST EWiQh0da No.6425621 Reply
>>6425616
Okay so it's a thing because he didn't just do it once. He did this kind of shit many times and also called people retards, fags, fat fucks etc. The problem is that he often did the commentary from home in his house with his buddy and they were joking around and clearly trying to get a rise out of each other. It was less "wrestling commentator being a heel" and more "Im being an edgey shitter with my friend at my appartment and it's recorded for PWG tapes"

The lines are a bit blurred. Either way I don't think it should be a big deal as he has apologized before and this is old news but I am not surprised people are upset.
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Bo Rotundo - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 14:17:56 EST EWiQh0da No.6425622 Reply
>>6425611
I watch PWG and many other wrestling companies. This is old news. It was a different time. I'm saying I'm happy that wrestling is getting less homophobic, racist and sexist.
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Jamie Knoble - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 14:29:38 EST n9eKBgQH No.6425628 Reply
>>6425621
> the problem is that he often did the commentary from home in his house with his buddy and they were joking around and clearly trying to get a rise out of each other.
Later on they were still juvenile when they were doing commentary live from the venue. Still had the same "let's top each other" vibe.
>>6425616
As the other user said, it was more than just heel work at the time, it's what he did as an announcer and booker as well as how long it went.
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Jack Evans - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 14:32:24 EST 0f3IoHsI No.6425630 Reply
>>6425621
I mean he was a heel commentator in a promotion trying to be 2edgy. Of course they are gonna sit there and be as edgy as they can be. Furthermore PWG authorized the commentary for DVD so clearly it lined up with what they were looking for
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Mike Awesome - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 14:42:35 EST npmoWSca No.6425633 Reply
>>6425630
> Furthermore PWG authorized the commentary for DVD so clearly it lined up with what they were looking for
I mean Excalibur pretty much is PWG lol
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David Hart Smith - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 15:13:22 EST YaOLb3xD No.6425648 Reply
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I won't be watching AEW until Tony Khan gets rid of Excalibur completely.

I've reached out to Tony about how offensive Excalibur is. Look at him, there's no way you could mock people like this, it's sickening.

Excalibur did all of these things because he's a edgelord and now he's trying to save face. I'm glad people are becoming aware of how terrible this guy has been.

Plus Taz/Schiavone/Ross is much better and Excalibur is no longer needed.
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The People - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 15:19:11 EST r32Nurbp No.6425649 Reply
>>6425648
I find your offense offensive therefore I'm reaching out to Tony about disregarding your offense in compliance with my offense.
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Bill Alfonos - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 15:31:05 EST VYMa2VAM No.6425653 Reply
>>6425648
15 years later and people are still worked
rare seeing such effective heel work
User is currently banned from all boards
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The Esperanza - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 15:40:06 EST fz6w4bsH No.6425658 Reply
>>6425648
You dont believe a single word of what you wrote.
you are pathetic.
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Bully Ray - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 15:43:15 EST L3xYzB20 No.6425661 Reply
>>6425658
Thanks to twitter, concern trolling is now basically the new 'normal' way to say anything on the internet.
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Crimson - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 20:35:42 EST oWLdzxNc No.6425810 Reply
>>6425648
never look into wwe in the 2000s and especially dont look up anything related to eugene
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Bob Armstrong - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 20:58:32 EST 6y0YrNCE No.6425818 Reply
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>quits pro wrestling to become a twitch streamer full time
>immediately gets banned from twitch

Why the fuck can my boi never catch a break
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 21:54:17 EST qfBsiMvD No.6425829 Reply
>>6425568
I feel the same about AR Fox, he was one of my faves. I think he mostly runs a school now though doesn't he?
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Tiger Mask - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 00:55:42 EST buOGemQu No.6425856 Reply
>>6425816
> Comparing an actual fucking Racist piece of shit to a kayfabe gimmicked and worked promo made to seem racist when it was acted out in a known fictional setting
lol so let's compare a work of fiction to reality now?

Geez man, could ya possibly look any more stupid?

£-dr0ne babbys really don't know how to separate a work from reality anymore how sad!
User is currently banned from all boards
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YOSHIHIKO - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 01:35:07 EST 4zJo/ELj No.6425862 Reply
>>6425854
Jericho continues to make a strong case for being the GOAT.

also gotdamn that's a nice gif
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Kevin Nash - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 05:14:35 EST llTKA8Ko No.6425872 Reply
>>6425871
The "brand acting relatable" shit just makes it even more amazing. Do these people have no self awareness
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Perry Saturn - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 08:17:47 EST EWiQh0da No.6425884 Reply
I just watched eric youngs interview with CVF and im convinced...of all the wwe guys they let go. This is the guy who is hungry. This is the guy you should watch for. Hes angry and hungry and a great wrestler/character. Good brothers, curt hawkins, zack ryder, heath etc. Are all solid guys but eric young and ec3 are the two who are about to fuck shit up. The thing that seperates them...eric young can wrestle really good.
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 09:00:40 EST M1ahJWky No.6425895 Reply
>>6425894
very much so. Because if his gimmick and being in TNA he was never a darling of the workrate marks, but he's an incredibly all rounder
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Jim Cornette - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 10:02:15 EST NiCu+lPS No.6425903 Reply
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>>6425856
If the leaked audio wasn't released,, would you have known about Hogan? Probably not since it was PRIVATE.

Meanwhile Excalibur has done this kind of shit right in the open and all we have is CRICKETS.
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Togi Makabe - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 10:52:30 EST msMEiaKI No.6425917 Reply
>>6425816
These posts are the ones that should be getting bans not dirtsheets callouts.

>>6425867
When did Twitch get bought out by puritans?
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Lash LeRoux - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 10:55:23 EST vLPxHcBs No.6425920 Reply
>>6425917
>When did Twitch get bought out by puritans?
When Amazon bought it would be my guess.
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Brodus Clay - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 10:55:29 EST FZE6GuLl No.6425921 Reply
>>6425894

Can you really be underrated when you're given the world title when you're nowhere near the caliber or quality of a main eventer?

EY was a forced meme
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Lita - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 11:02:00 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6425927 Reply
>>6425921
nah

He's underrated. His triple threat world title cage match at Slammiversary 2014 against Lashley and Austin Aries is great
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Headbanger Trasher - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 11:41:10 EST RgpMBobH No.6425947 Reply
>>6425927
Yeah, Eric Young has always been an incredibly underrated wrestler. He can do comedy (geek in Team Canada/Don't Fire Eric), he's a very solid worker in-ring & has been in more than his fair share of good-great matches over the years
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Psycho Clown - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 12:38:57 EST 1Kpp8/5u No.6425963 Reply
>>6425962

>Owen jumps to WCW
>Davey and Neidhart follow
>Hart Foundation vs NWO through 1998
>Owen almost assuredly winning the WCW title in 1999 or 2000
>Owen and Bret come back to the WWF for the Invasion angle
>Owen enjoys Upper Midcard to Main Eventer status through early 2003 before he retires to become a road agent
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Lodi - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 13:05:45 EST B/TXhNop No.6425968 Reply
>>6425963
Does the trap door still happen that injures Bulldog in this universe though?
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Jim Cornette - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 13:40:15 EST NiCu+lPS No.6425977 Reply
>>6425968
No because Vince would become desperate and sign Ultimate Warrior like he tried doing in December 1997
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Dr. Death Steve Williams - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 14:38:06 EST dYhrmb6W No.6426026 Reply
>>6425962
An alternate universe where Owen Hart's WWF contract magically expired 4 years early?

The only reason he didn't jump to WCW with the rest of them was he was under an iron-clad contract and was unable to ask for an early release (like Davey and Neidhart did).
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 15:09:56 EST wwkx+h7B No.6426047 Reply
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>>6426034
>If you like the Lake of Reincarnation in AEW but you hate the eye-for-an match...you know what I mean?

No, I don't know what you mean Seth. Say what you mean. Also, don't kid yourself that a plastic eyeball and the Lake of Reincarnation were the same thing or presented as the same thing/tone.

Seth's rhetoric is mad dirty trying to invoke console wars by specifically saying "Lake of Reincarnation in AEW" instead of just saying "Lake of Reincarnation" which has been in Impact, WWE and AEW.
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Lita - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 15:16:26 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6426049 Reply
>>6426034
Seth is sorta right but not really acknowledging that the problem was in the execution
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Daisuke Sekimoto - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 15:18:43 EST cfOXxE22 No.6426051 Reply
>>6426034
>outside interest

Which didn't translate into any extra eyes (pun not intended) on the product at all. It just made them look like geeks.

The "any publicity is good publicity" meme has been taken down 1000s of times at this point. Is any ex-WWE fan going to see some twitter headline about "eye vs eye match" and think that WWE is back to it's best and worth watching again? Evidently not.
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The People - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 15:27:59 EST r32Nurbp No.6426056 Reply
>>6426049
Fucking this. Conceptually it's no different kayfabe wise than anything else done in the last few years, but the actual occurrence was done so plainly that it made the whole thing fall flat and seem hokey. They really should have gone full cinematic and just gone with the shitty CGI, or at least made it some Mortal Kombat shit where it happens in the gnarliest way possible. Instead Rey gets his eye grinded on the step a bit, a toy that you barely see comes out, and they immediately backtrack on the whole fucking thing by saying that he'll be alright.
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Stacy Carter - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 15:54:33 EST x8ohQNwM No.6426064 Reply
>>6426034
He isn't. If it caught someone's attention, Raw ratings wouldn't still be steadily declining. Wrestling in general needs to stop pretending the occasional headline is meaningful.
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Tiger Mask - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 16:04:14 EST buOGemQu No.6426070 Reply
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>>6426034
> TMZ
> Outside interest
> THE EYE FOR AN EYE MATCH
lol if by interest he means mockery than sure
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Super Shisa - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 16:28:39 EST TeF94b2Z No.6426079 Reply
Remember when HHH cut his hair and TMZ was the first with the scoop?
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Rico - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 16:54:33 EST BgwUp47T No.6426087 Reply
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>>6425816
Uhh no, I'm cancelling Hulk for creepy ass incest and gross hotdog sex
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Sexxxy Eddy - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 18:43:08 EST uWPOtgY+ No.6426140 Reply
>>6425816
>AEW existed when based Hulkster leg dropped on Gawker
End yourself for reposing this dumb shit.
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Joey Mercury - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 20:17:29 EST OerWhN2+ No.6426182 Reply
>>6425856
>says the n-word once
>is now considered a "racist piece of shit" through hyperbole and false events

I'm glad Hogan fucked the shit out of Gawker
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Juventud Guerrera - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 20:19:57 EST VYMa2VAM No.6426184 Reply
>>6425816
neither of them deserves anything happening to them
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MsChif - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 20:32:59 EST 31a17XBR No.6426187 Reply
>>6426186
Gawker was perfectly content believing hogan could not afford a drawn out legal battle on his own. The irony of course being they were fine using money as power when it suited them.
Too bad for them they fucked up too many times and pissed off the wrong people. They got what was coming to them
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Emi Fujino - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 20:35:48 EST EWiQh0da No.6426188 Reply
Hogan is a bad person despite his n word shit. He is simply a bad person.
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Rob Van Dam - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 20:44:51 EST LtvAlZOW No.6426192 Reply
>>6426188
Pretty much.

Nobody gives Tarantino shit for saying it, nobody gives Leo shit for saying it, because they are playing a role, and don't believe it. Ditto Excalibur, he said shit as a bad guy evil character, that does not represent him as a person, nor his character currently.
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Rob Van Dam - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 20:46:34 EST LtvAlZOW No.6426194 Reply
>>6426187

Gawker were so 2-faced, I'd actually not care if they picked a side, but they played both sides, so fuck 'em.
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Archibald Peck - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 20:53:09 EST mKWqHmZL No.6426197 Reply
>>6425856
If you watch the video, it's clear Exca is saying it with the enthusiasm of a racist Nick Gagetard grandpa. Also, if you're offered to say the N Word in a promo there is the possibility of TURNING IT DOWN.

I am not a dr0ne or a Hogan fan but fiction affects reality, and Exca should be vondemned for accepting this shit in the first place. It's good to call out hypocrisy.
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Juventud Guerrera - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 20:58:15 EST VYMa2VAM No.6426199 Reply
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>>6426197
i cannot decide if you're just trolling or if you actually believe what you're saying
in both cases it would be embarassing, so i'm not giving it much thought
Poe's law can be a bitch sometimes
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Rob Van Dam - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:43:34 EST LtvAlZOW No.6426209 Reply
>>6426197
Mate if you actually believed this, you'd be campaigning for Tarantino's head, Leo Di Caprios head, Vince's head, LONG before you got to fucking Excalibur.

So fuck off. He's a guy playing a fucking character.
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Dawn Marie - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 22:13:50 EST 806GRzD2 No.6426215 Reply
>>6426209
he's posting in bad faith, stop responding to him earnestly.
He doesn't actually care.
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Gerald Brisco - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 22:30:07 EST buOGemQu No.6426219 Reply
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>>6425005
behold


the alcoholic and depressing End of RuRu's wrasslin' career
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Jerrelle Clark - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 22:35:59 EST NiCu+lPS No.6426221 Reply
>>6426209
Hollywood is already done. Nobody cares about it and pro wrestling is next.
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Gerald Brisco - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 22:58:31 EST buOGemQu No.6426225 Reply
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>>6426209
> FICTION affects Reality
lol in what fucking universe???


Not even outside a child's imagination do works of fiction at any capacity affect reality.


Mental nutbars who act out based on their own reactive interpretations of a fiction are what affects reality and that's only if they go shooting people in the name of fiction like the retard who thought a Book was telling readers to kill someone.

you are a retard
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Gerald Brisco - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 23:00:01 EST buOGemQu No.6426226 Reply
>>6426225
Fml, im a retard meant to reply to >>6426197 and replied to one of the posts linked to it by accident. Goddam retardation pandemic i caught the virus.
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Dawn Marie - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 23:35:54 EST 806GRzD2 No.6426228 Reply
>>6426226
Dont waste energy replying earnestly to a deliberate bad faith concern troll.
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Danshoku Dino - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 07:23:42 EST N9BAdK/S No.6426276 Reply
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>people got buttmad over characters dropping "nigga" years ago

It's okay to be worked by fictional works, that's how people call Jericho the GOAT: by getting into nerves of AEWtists and E-dr0n3z at the same time. Hell, I was defending Joey Ryan for working old-school fans into seething rage before the scandal went out.

I have three words for ya: SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF.
Also for the love of SHLAK, grow a pair.
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Archibald Peck - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 07:35:36 EST mKWqHmZL No.6426278 Reply
>>6426276
>i think writers should be allowed to use a word that should have been killed off in 1890's
This is what you sound like bootlicker
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Sgt. Slaughter - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 07:43:19 EST rcchxOsv No.6426279 Reply
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I don't care over wrestlers using the n-word or other insults as long as it's fair. Currently people like Tessa Blanchard or Rhea Ripley can openly insult wrestlers and viewers as n-ggers and f-ggtos and nobody bats an eye while Lars Sullivan is mocked for starring in gay porn, but this is pretty much the kind of 'tolerance' I'm used to by social media troglodytes.
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Johnny B. Badd - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 08:03:48 EST YlKMygy/ No.6426282 Reply
>>6426276

Were you born this stupid, or did you get dropped on your head by your friends giving your piledrivers because you're such a mark?
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Jeff Jarrett - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 08:30:08 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6426283 Reply
>>6426279
Lars said some hateful things a ton of it may be due to him not being able to cope with being gay/bi and having no support/being raised in a homophobic family but ignore that so he has been depersoned. Keep up
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Danshoku Dino - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 10:21:22 EST N9BAdK/S No.6426298 Reply
>>6426278
>>6426282
Are you dumb, stupid, or can't be bother to tell between "getting worked by fiction" or "getting woke by bullshit issues that could've just left to die in 2014"? Huh?
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The Gobbledy Gooker - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 16:25:38 EST /YsP7rdR No.6426388 Reply
>>6426219
>shirtless
>excessive alcohol drinking
Both abainst ToS lol, hsmsgonna get banned again
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Minori Makiba - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 16:32:37 EST cfOXxE22 No.6426390 Reply
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>>6426221
>Hollywood is already done. Nobody cares about it and pro wrestling is next.

Wait... Are you unironically trying to make the argument that more people care about wrestling than they do Hollywood right now?

I honestly can't imagine being that detached from reality. Like seriously, wrestling would kill to even be 10% as culturally relevant as pic related
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Vampiro - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 16:48:14 EST RgpMBobH No.6426396 Reply
>>6426221
>Hollywood is already done. Nobody cares about it
Here's your reply, brother
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Jeff Jarrett - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 16:48:20 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6426397 Reply
>>6426390
He meant metoo/cancelling people is over for Hollywood. Calm down
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Minori Makiba - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 17:03:14 EST cfOXxE22 No.6426402 Reply
>>6426397
That's categorically not true either though, just last month Hartley Sawyer was sacked for homophobic, misogynistic and racist tweets.

Theres still a lot of predators and pieces of shit in hollywood and people still are exposing them
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Gerald Brisco - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 17:26:59 EST buOGemQu No.6426407 Reply
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>>6426390
> Culturally Relevant
> MARVEL
LOL

https://youtu.be/unycv1cqRY4

Listen to just the opening 45-60 seconds of that special

What, because the world realized MACHINEMA on YouTube was the most subscribed Channel back in 2005 prior to the website's corporate monetizations and transformation leading to Hollywood and the Videogame industry cashing out on clearly the most devoted customer base years later... you actually got worked into thinking Nerd culture and its films really are any more culturally relevant than before?

Wow man, that's pretty fkn sad.
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Claudio Castagnoli - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 17:32:00 EST n9eKBgQH No.6426408 Reply
>>6426407
Man, Marc Maron was pretty savage in that clip. He really tore into Marvel and nerd culture. Good stuff

Wish he would have saved that energy for Louie CK sexually abusing women but I'm different. Funny clip though
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Gerald Brisco - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 17:32:03 EST buOGemQu No.6426409 Reply
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>>6426402
Hollywood is over, doofus. People are essentially "cancelling" their love of celebrity worship and their blind support of Hollywood since those criminals were exposed so often, and he means to say Wrestling will follow soon enough as well, because it's just as scummy as hollywood.

fun little fact, Holly Trees and their Wood is what old sorcerers used to make magick Wands in the lands of Media back in the day... funny how Media and Hollywood still work their magic controlling people, though, huh? .... Yeah, just continue overlooking and not even stopping to process what I just told you there... carry on...
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Minori Makiba - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 17:34:34 EST cfOXxE22 No.6426412 Reply
>>6426407
The MCU has made a total of $22.5 billion from box office revenue alone my man, you live in a seriously detached bubble if you think it isn't culturally relevant.

You might not like it, and that's fair enough, but pretending it's still some tiny, insignificant thing is just delusional to the extreme
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Gerald Brisco - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 17:39:19 EST buOGemQu No.6426416 Reply
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>>6426412
> you mean to tell me McDonald's is CULTURALLY RELEVANT and that human culture globally out making it FRONT PAGE NEWS and Everyone goes talking about it whenever they make a MENU CHANGE? wow, man!!!! You are SO not full of it!!!


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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 17:40:36 EST M1ahJWky No.6426417 Reply
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>>6426409
>Holly Trees and their Wood is what old sorcerers used to make magick Wands in the lands of Media back in the day... funny how Media and Hollywood still work their magic controlling people,
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Minori Makiba - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 17:43:08 EST cfOXxE22 No.6426418 Reply
>>6426416
You seem to be confusing quality with cultural relevance.

Marvel and their parent company Disney, have had a HUGE cultural impact in the last 20 years.

And yes, going back to the original point, Marvel/Hollywood IS far more culturally relevant than Wrestling, i'm sorry if it hurts your feelings but that's simply the truth.
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Minori Makiba - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 17:47:46 EST cfOXxE22 No.6426420 Reply
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A quick question for anybody else who is going to try and defend the initial claim that Wrestling is more culturally relevant than Hollywood.

Who do you think Audi would rather have fronting their advertising campaign, Spiderman or current WWE champion Drew McIntyre?
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MsChif - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 18:29:20 EST 31a17XBR No.6426440 Reply
>>6426436
And i think you should just accept your ban and quit evading it. You are easily the worst and most hostile poster on this board for probably the past half year. Stay banned for once.
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John Laurinaitis - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 02:59:07 EST msMEiaKI No.6426550 Reply
>>6426420
Is anyone actually arguing this besides the latest turd who just got flushed?
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Justin Credible - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 06:28:59 EST J10K+5dU No.6426562 Reply
I feel like you need to be pretty young to think that wrestling is culturally relevant. They have a monopoly on an entire industry and still no one who doesn't watch regularly could name a single wrestler from the company, let alone the current champion. This has been true for almost a decade. D'Lo Brown and Virgil are probably more famous than Drew McIntyre.
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The People - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 06:37:57 EST r32Nurbp No.6426566 Reply
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>>6426564
Upon further inspection I fucked up. Here's Dog Cena to distract from my mistake. nb because I'm a moron.
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Heidenreich - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 08:03:45 EST r1FzMSXm No.6426568 Reply
>>6426563
the logo being everywhere.
4 ring aprons
12 turnbuckle pads
1 canvas
shut up and buy it, it's super authentic
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Sakura Emi - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 15:07:24 EST T5Ycresu No.6426645 Reply
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AUGUST 1 WARNING IDENTITY REVEALED
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Eugene - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 15:46:32 EST dYhrmb6W No.6426659 Reply
>>6426563
Logos, I guess? Or the gray ring mat?

Putting selling points on the box like "authentic details" is really tipping their hand that they know this product isn't for kids, it's for neckbeard action figure collectors. "Authentic details" isn't a selling point to a kid.
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Tyson Kidd - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 16:08:13 EST cfOXxE22 No.6426662 Reply
>>6426659
I'm not exactly sure how an item saying "authentic design" means it's not for kids? Lots of toys say similar on. It's also a signifier for parents, who want to buy gifts for their children, and who may not be aware of what it "should" look like. Saying it's the "authentic design" helps put their mind at ease that they're buying the right thing.

In fact i'd argue the exact opposite than you did, a phrase like "authentic design" is superfluous for "neckbeard action figure collectors", because those people already know what the authentic design looks like, so they don't need to be told whether it is or not.

Completely un-related, here's WWE also marketing one of their belts as authentic:

https://shop.wwe.com/universal-championship-blue-official-tv-authentic-title-belt-%28snap-version%29/013C1CD72A.html?dwvar_013C1CD72A_color=No%20Color

>Universal Championship Blue Official TV Authentic Title Belt
>THIS. IS. AUTHENTIC.
>Feel the difference that genuine leather makes when you get a glimpse of this TV Authentic Championship Title!
>We've partnered with Wildcat Championship Belts to provide the highest quality leather for our TV Authentic Championship Titles!
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Tommaso Ciampa - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 17:08:54 EST jkHcIii8 No.6426685 Reply
>>6426659
when I was a kid a lot of the toy cars I'd play with said "authentically detailed" on the packaging, and I did think it was cool that those cars were more like real cars

I wouldn't read too much into it
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Eugene - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 17:14:12 EST dYhrmb6W No.6426686 Reply
>>6426662
>B-But WWE!
Every damn time. I wasn't even ripping on AEW in my post. I was just making fun of how toy companies market action figures and the neckbeards that collect them. On top of that, you linked to a $5000 replica belt. Of course an expensive replica belt is going to use "authentic details" as a selling point.
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Tyson Kidd - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 17:18:18 EST cfOXxE22 No.6426688 Reply
>>6426686
You're just reaching to a ridiculous point, companies claiming a product has "authentic details" is not just a signifier for neckbeards.
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Vince Russo - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 18:31:25 EST EWiQh0da No.6426703 Reply
>>6426688
This. That belt is for children but sadly children don't watch wrestling anymore.
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Dino Bravo - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 20:32:11 EST uWPOtgY+ No.6426739 Reply
>>6426533
Tbh, I prefer its generic design over the WWE brand WWE Logo™ toy belt and the penny coin belts. But I would also prefer any other belt over those so it's start.
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Too Cold Scorpio - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 20:34:35 EST 806GRzD2 No.6426741 Reply
>AEW releases merch
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE from the usual suspects
lmfao
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Dutch Mantel - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 20:40:32 EST KSaI5clx No.6426742 Reply
>>6426741
Don't expect Pokka posts to ever portray anything other than his complete £-dr0ne bias. The poor sap is as pathetic as it gets. Glad I haven't had the displeasure of seeing any of his posts recently but going by the replies to it I'd say it's the usual REEEEEE on full display
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Steve The Turtle Weiner - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 20:51:31 EST vLPxHcBs No.6426745 Reply
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>tfw every thread has devolved into constant console war faggotry
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 21:07:43 EST wwkx+h7B No.6426747 Reply
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>>6426580
>>6426741
>>6426742
Guys...You're going to need thicker skin than this to survive the many years of console wars to come. Maybe I'm jaded having experienced the way TNA was treated here in the early 2010s, but >>6426563 barely registers to me as anything.

And this coming someone one who grealy prefers what AEW is doing in 2020 to anything WWE branded in 2020.

No Bump.
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Sandman - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 21:33:44 EST 4p78Abvh No.6426750 Reply
>>6426745
Yeah even if the console wars ends these annoying posters will find something else to shit the board up with. Remember how many Roman threads there were a couple years back?
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Steve The Turtle Weiner - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 21:44:58 EST vLPxHcBs No.6426753 Reply
>>6426750
Sure but I don't remember every thread devolving into arguments about Roman
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Daizee Haze - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 22:59:36 EST BgwUp47T No.6426765 Reply
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I have forseen the future and in 20 years the arguments will be over weather cybernetically enhanced wrestlers are more real or fake than steroid freaks, and later both sides will fight against the neo-joisie hologram idol wrestlers but will never form a complete alliance.

"FLESH, BIO-STEEL, NEVER LIGHT!"
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Tommaso Ciampa - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 23:04:43 EST Ybchf0OF No.6426770 Reply
>>6426765

Gay Pride Care Bear
Anti-Nazi Care Bear
BLM Care Bear
Pro-Life Care Bear

And Austrian Care Bear?
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Daizee Haze - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 23:08:59 EST BgwUp47T No.6426771 Reply
>>6426770
That's the trans flag
Blue: male
Pink: Female
White: uhhh marshmallow
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Natalya - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 23:32:17 EST EWiQh0da No.6426776 Reply
>>6426742
PokKa doesnt even like wwe. Pretty sure he is a impact/joshi fan. Not that it should matter.
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Tatanka - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 00:17:44 EST 1Kpp8/5u No.6426781 Reply
>>6426777

That's not Pro-Life, that's a Pro-Choice symbol. The crossed out coat hanger refers to no dangerous or back alley abortions, with the coat hanger being a primitive tool for self administered abortions back in the day.
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Leva Bates - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 00:50:11 EST eqffKnTP No.6426786 Reply
>>6426765
>>6426770

Both of you are fucking idiots, adding to an already overloaded system full of idiots. Do what you need to
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Alundra Blayze - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 07:31:18 EST msMEiaKI No.6426839 Reply
>>6426747
bruh I was just dunking on Pokka. If you believe that shows off "thin skin" well honestly that level of misread explains a lot.

>>6426686
That's not even a "but WWE" case. And >neckbeard? Seriously? Where do you think we are?
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 08:14:26 EST YILbGvXF No.6426841 Reply
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you guys are dumb that is clearly an old NWA Dusty Rhodes merch. the anti coat hanger represents his animosity with the Varsity Club, known to use coat hangers as choking devices
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Petey Williams - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 08:36:03 EST mKWqHmZL No.6426845 Reply
How much do i have to pay Kirt to hire mods that actually do something?
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 09:48:56 EST M1ahJWky No.6426853 Reply
>>6426750
There was a couple of weeks when the front page was literally full of Roman threads and I remember one of the mods had to step in to shut it down, because any time someone had a thought they would start a new thread, instead of posting in a existing one.

That whole 'roman derangement' time period is kinda weird when you look back on it.



>>6426742
>his complete £-dr0ne bias.

This is kind of funny, seeing as I've been wishing for wwe to go out of business for years now, before it became popular to do so. (I was also the creator of the 'hey bro superstars is on' meme if anyone remembers that)

>>6426747
yes people used to shit on TNA here all the time and even the TNA fans weren't as defensive (nor they did they ever call for people to banned iirc)
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Sherri Martel - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 13:52:04 EST T5Ycresu No.6426958 Reply
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the desperation is getting out of control lmao
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Stacy Carter - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 14:22:54 EST dYhrmb6W No.6426971 Reply
>>6426882
That's a fake account. It was confirmed years ago. Brimley just didn't care about social media so he never bothered getting Twitter to take it down.
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Jamal - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 14:30:47 EST JqNY4itE No.6426973 Reply
>>6426960
wwe sent out this fake rumor themselves to gain more interest I think it's really obvious
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Mean Smark Callous !DCxC2Z8fnY - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 14:31:02 EST mHVC6D8M No.6426974 Reply
>>6426958

If there's no dance-off between Shane and Asuka, that's a wasted opportunity.
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Tommaso Ciampa - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 16:03:29 EST Ybchf0OF No.6427018 Reply
>>6427009

I expect the New Day, Lucha House Party, Forgotten Sons, or whatever other SD trio to switch brands.

I'll laugh if it's Indus Sher & Malcolm Bivens.

Dumbest is if they break up the Unidsputed Era, call up Fish, O'Reilly, & Strong, and have Cole remain in NXT to do the stupid angle with Pat McAfee.
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Vito - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 16:04:04 EST dEt+k5Gb No.6427020 Reply
>>6427012
This will probably turn out to be dirtsheets but boy do I want to see it and the reaction to it.
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Tommaso Ciampa - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 16:09:30 EST Ybchf0OF No.6427030 Reply
>>6427018

I take that back. The dumbest would be calling Imperium up.

Doesn't matter if Aichner & Bartel are the NXT tag champs.
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Pitbull - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 16:27:02 EST ETQVx/iR No.6427041 Reply
>>6425396
I would fucking rather have Alan Dershowitz host a show than that piece of shit Woods fuck Woods all my homies hate Woods.
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Vito - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 16:32:14 EST dEt+k5Gb No.6427043 Reply
>>6427041
I Think he has some talent for hosting shows. Not the best around, mind you. He also has some bad taste in video games.
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Aero Star - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 18:12:53 EST Ta5ItinP No.6427091 Reply
the dark order/young bucks segment on BTE was great

as was Cage eating a dozen unseasoned eggs for dinner
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Primo - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 18:22:17 EST Vze7K07h No.6427094 Reply
>>6427056

Definitely not defending WWE, but do they even pay this lip service anymore? Vince said AEW+NXT are doing (almost) better than Raw because "they're new", I don't think making new talent has been his focus since... Roman?
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Howard Finkel - Tue, 04 Aug 2020 00:54:15 EST msMEiaKI No.6427374 Reply
>>6427094
>NXT is new

This reads even more hilariously as they're currently promoting their 30th Takeover
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Gerald Brisco - Tue, 04 Aug 2020 05:58:50 EST cfOXxE22 No.6427450 Reply
Dark Order on BTE are the best thing in American wrestling right now. Also The Bucks joking about how they need to stop building up monsters just to have them lose, followed by Cage failing to get a toy in the machine was good.
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Michael Cole - Tue, 04 Aug 2020 10:34:40 EST 0ia2DwE9 No.6427502 Reply
>>6426963
Martys facebook was a whole ass trip yesterday like for a second i thought he was gonna out himself as a r*paist
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El MurciŽlago - Tue, 04 Aug 2020 19:42:33 EST oWCnaTUY No.6427663 Reply
>>6427661
They probably realized the SocJus crowd would have gone ballistic on Twitter while the rest of us just shrugged and gave no fucks.
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Silver King - Tue, 04 Aug 2020 19:51:41 EST NbxmdHMb No.6427667 Reply
Remember when Paige/Mandy/Sonya was called ABSOLUTION ?

These names suck
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Tony Chimel - Tue, 04 Aug 2020 19:56:52 EST EWiQh0da No.6427669 Reply
>>6427667
Literally pulled out of a hat tier names. The creativity level in wrestling right now is at some low levels.
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Darkness Crabtree - Tue, 04 Aug 2020 21:08:11 EST n9eKBgQH No.6427711 Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Lizmark Jr. - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 00:43:45 EST T5Ycresu No.6427787 Reply
>>6427783
I really wish they did the fight club shit before TalkNShop A Mania because I can only imagine how good they would have spoofed it
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Electroshock - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 00:46:02 EST PNaHf53A No.6427788 Reply
>>6427787
>they book Freight Train as a monster killer like that Babadunde guy
Im here for this
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Arachnaman - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 09:48:12 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6427844 Reply
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>>6427843
he deleted this post already but the screengrabs are already blowing up.

so did he just casually confess to murdering a dude?
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Stan Lane - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 10:16:08 EST /v6HOivi No.6427854 Reply
>>6427507
I'm a little shocked and appalled with the comical way he retells the anecdotes of Marty and Shawn being date rapists.
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Johnny B. Badd - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 10:24:47 EST xdDs7Dcz No.6427857 Reply
>>6427844
Sounds like it was murder in self-defense, which is pretty similar to Scott Hall's story of what fucked him up mentally all those years. 80s wrestlers really are a rare breed.
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Arachnaman - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 10:32:31 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6427859 Reply
>>6427854
i mean... they were all huge pieces of shit back in the 80s. Brutus is a meathead Florida Man who carried Hogan's weed and got a 30 year career out of it. His POV shouldn't be that shocking.

>>6427857
"self defense" in the most technical sense of the phrase. killing a gay drug dealer and then disposing of the body because he made a pass at you is still an incredibly sketchy situation to willingly put yourself in.
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Juventud Guerrera - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 10:52:20 EST ckNYskZm No.6427862 Reply
>>6427711
Gran Akuma seems to vibrate between "kind of a mark" and "actually has some good points".
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Johnny B. Badd - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 11:36:19 EST xdDs7Dcz No.6427879 Reply
>>6427859
>>6427860
Not defending his cause here, dude dumped a body, just thought it was interesting to read about another wrestler who murdered at a very young age. Though your use of "making a pass" here is curious, is a grown man dragging a 13 year old boy behind a building making a pass where you're from? If you doubt his recall that's fine, but come on now.
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Bobby Dempsey - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 11:41:42 EST 87DBLmM0 No.6427881 Reply
>>6427843
Can we just gather together all the 80's wrestlers, line them up and then fucking shoot a bullet through their heads? That'd be nice.
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Arachnaman - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 11:49:30 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6427884 Reply
>>6427879
>If you doubt his recall that's fine
mostly this. i have no idea what Marty's stance on homosexuals is but referring to him as a "fag" is telling. Have no idea of knowing what was actually predatory and what was some dumb 70s hick looking to score drugs having a gay panic moment.
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Sumie Sakai - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 12:18:54 EST oWLdzxNc No.6427896 Reply
>>6427844
>yfw there is an alternate reality in which shawn never cleans himself up and never turns on marty and they proceed to roam around in a van doing coke and murdering people
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Layla - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 12:42:06 EST PvOQ6M5D No.6427897 Reply
>>6427844
Thats probably some wacked out bullshit. If not uh oh for him, he's a retard either way.
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Lizmark Jr. - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 13:20:57 EST T5Ycresu No.6427915 Reply
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>>6427843
>Marty Jannetty just casually admitting to murder on Facebook

2020 is the fucking weirdest year
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Lana Star - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 13:28:04 EST uOR1UBqb No.6427916 Reply
>>6427885
Do you just have a folder of wrestling dirt on every wrestler ever? You spread a lot of negativity and dirt. You're like the Perez Hilton of this board.
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Bobby Dempsey - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 13:31:14 EST 87DBLmM0 No.6427919 Reply
>>6427916
Every celebrity ever is either a nonce, racist, rapist or all of them. Wake up. Fame has always been a tool only preserved for the most wicked of wicked.
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Dustin Diamond - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 13:40:07 EST mKWqHmZL No.6427923 Reply
>>6427916
Everyone in the pro wrestling business is a fucking scumbag. If SpeakingOut was actually efficient, there would be no such thing as pro wrestling anymore.
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Road Warrior Hawk - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 13:48:57 EST EWiQh0da No.6427928 Reply
>>6427919
Marty Janetty just admitted to killing someone and he posts a weird youtube clip of Bret Hart saying something shitty in the 80s. It does come off a bit gossip bloggy.

But yeah most people are scummy in entertainment. I wouldn't go as far as to say EVERY SINGLE ONE is a rapist, racist or pedo.
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Arachnaman - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 13:55:47 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6427934 Reply
>>6427928
Bret is actually one of the good ones.
it was just a joke. If there should be one takeaway from "Dark Side of the Ring" it's that the wrestling business was so much darker and depraved than you can imagine all the way up until, like, the Benoit scandal forced WWE to clean up for Congress. (and even then there is still lots of debauchery covered up with corporate legalese)

Scott Hall and Marty Jannetty are definitely not the only wrestlers that killed someone while they were in the middle of a sketchy situation.
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Road Warrior Hawk - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 13:56:57 EST EWiQh0da No.6427936 Reply
Yeah it's crazy how back in the 80s people would go into bars and just look for big guys who would get in fights and then hire them as wrestlers.
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Road Warrior Hawk - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 14:39:03 EST EWiQh0da No.6427950 Reply
>>6427946
Tony Khan said that if you watch that show you would see him in some podcast or something.
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David Lagana - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 14:39:50 EST JvbZ8j8l No.6427951 Reply
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>>6427896
>tfw we will never to to see Dark Side of The Ring: The Rockers
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Chuck Palumbo - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 14:42:45 EST jEGuiRVR No.6427953 Reply
>>6427942
Who was getting Tony into ECW shows when he was about 12 years old?

I wonder how many wrestling tapes Tony owns and I wonder if he ever came here too. Dude seems like a massive wrestling nerd.
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Samoa Joe - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 14:44:50 EST Pg7lBld+ No.6427957 Reply
>>6427942
I wonder what Heyman thinks about Shad Khan's money sitting in the front row of his ECW shows back in the 90s.
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The Gobbledy Gooker - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 14:58:31 EST AN6ZLj+v No.6427967 Reply
>>6427953
>Dude seems like a massive wrestling nerd.

I listened to him on either the Jericho Podcast or Austin's podcast and the dude knows his shit.
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Trevor Murdoch - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 15:09:06 EST cfOXxE22 No.6427975 Reply
>>6427953
Tony has accounts on wrestling forums from the early 2000s were he's talking about swapping VHS's of old wrestling and shit. Guy has always been obsessed with it.

IIRC he is the guy who created some famous thread on some wrestling forum, can't remember the details, somebody probably can explain that a lot better than me.

Given that Fulham just got promoted back to the PL in England too, the Khans should be swimming in more money right now
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Road Warrior Hawk - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 15:17:09 EST EWiQh0da No.6427983 Reply
Yeah I think it's pretty cool Tony Khan is a wrestling fan. It's a good thing he is a fan and not just a guy with lots of money in my opinion. I get why people rag on him sometimes but he seems pretty harmless to me. His father is probably the one with the shady business practices.
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Arachnaman - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 15:21:26 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6427985 Reply
>>6427983
>His father is probably the one with the shady business practices
>probably
try definitely. shad laid off 800 people because of covid
https://www.news-gazette.com/coronavirus/coronavirus-response-550-laid-off-at-flex-n-gate-changes-coming-for-restart/article_f2c95c5c-e563-5f38-bc03-4dc1cf322814.html
https://www.insideindianabusiness.com/story/42011982/flexngate-subsidiary-lays-off-300-in-fountain-county

And that's not counting the money he's given to the Saudia royal family or President Donald
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Sugar Dunkerton - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 15:35:56 EST enB1UiaJ No.6427987 Reply
>>6427975
I've asked him a few times if any of the AEW roster are football fans. I think it's safe to say if we get an AEW UK show next year it'll fall on the same weekend as a Fulham game and some of the AEW guys will be in attendance. Fulham will probably never reach a level where they're a top team in the PL but man certainly has his fingers in a lot of pies.

I also think it's worth noting that there will probably come a time where the AEW product changes quite significantly and 'EVPs getting their mates jobs' is a thing of the past. I suspect Tony's plans for the product changed a lot and hiring guys who have a say and have pull was a 'necessary evil' because he needed the star power those guys bring.

I have very few issues with AEW atm and don't think the Bucks giving their buddies jobs is much of a problem at all, but there will come a time when those guys take a back seat or wind down their careers and AEW will be a very different place. I think this will all happen long before Vince steps down too.
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Arachnaman - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 15:46:21 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6427997 Reply
>>6427987
this is a good take. I feel like there's already a clear schism in terms of the different Elite members' ideas for talent recruitment.

The YB put together a good tag team division but you can their PWG match style and Chikara style storytelling with the Dark Order makes JR's eyes roll.

Jr was also openly talking about Cage, Brodie Lee and Archer on his podcast all before they were signed.

I'd be curious to know how hands-on he's getting as "senior advisor." Just based on the way episodes of Dynamite have been laid out, I feel like JR, Jericho and Cody have more of an influence over the show, while the Bucks and Omega are kinda off "doing their own thing" (and A LOT of their hires are getting bumped to Dark).
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Arachnaman - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 16:56:51 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6428029 Reply
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so what was the payoff to this?
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Road Warrior Hawk - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 17:22:20 EST EWiQh0da No.6428038 Reply
>>6427985
Yes but his dad being a dick doesn't really effect AEW to me. His dad is just like "okay tony go have fun with your wrestle men..here is a bunch of money". Not the same way that WWEs bad people have their hands and noses right on the pulse of the production week in and week out.
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Eddie Kingston - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 18:19:03 EST CPtq64li No.6428068 Reply
If you asked random people who weren't familiar with these two "Guess which one is a pro wrestler and which one does backstage stuff?" 100% of them would get it wrong.
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Super Crazy - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 18:46:11 EST jkHcIii8 No.6428081 Reply
>>6427997
>JR, Jericho and Cody
>Bucks and Omega

It;s basically the WCW bloc vs the PWG/Japan bloc
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Superstar Billy Graham - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 19:44:21 EST jXqG4Qs2 No.6428104 Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Monster C - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 21:05:27 EST dYhrmb6W No.6428158 Reply
>>6428104
Jeez, that's hard to look at. That HBO doc did a good job at contextualizing a lot of the myths about Andre (mainly how is legendary drinking wasn't because he was an epic party guy, he was a massive alcoholic because he was in constant pain).
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Rodney Mack - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 21:38:18 EST Ybchf0OF No.6428173 Reply
>>6428158

He could have had an operation to help with the pain, but he had a "this is how God made me" mindset or something and went with alcohol instead, if I'm remembering correctly.
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Nick Patrick - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 12:23:03 EST r1FzMSXm No.6428349 Reply
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Here's your zombie gimmick, bro
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JTG - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 12:27:09 EST NFFSlLHU No.6428355 Reply
>>6428351
I like AEW, but their continuous failing to book the women (i.e. 1 short match per show, champ not on show) is ridiculous.
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Rizokahn - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 12:28:55 EST hTSUcuhc No.6428359 Reply
>>6428351
It's obvious he's not the one doing that idea and that someone else has usurped him from his role of booking the division.
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Ashley Cartier - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 12:40:02 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6428365 Reply
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Maffew (and Taz?) drove Janela off social media
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Ashley Cartier - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 12:45:58 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6428373 Reply
>>6428371
>the bit is a pro wrestler is hyper sensitive to being made fun of on twitter

what's the payoff?
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Ashley Cartier - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 12:55:00 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6428377 Reply
>>6428375
even if it's a joke, what's the point? parodying the Young Bucks' real reaction to social media bullying?
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Brian Adams - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 12:56:47 EST oWLdzxNc No.6428378 Reply
>>6427951
we will eventually get one maybe with shawn trying to play off everything he did as stuff marty did then shawn talking about how he found god and how it changed his life forever while marty just kept living the same life forever.
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Nick Patrick - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 12:57:33 EST r1FzMSXm No.6428379 Reply
>>6428377
there is no point, it's a joke tweet. that's it, that's as deep as it goes.
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Ashley Cartier - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 13:19:11 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6428383 Reply
>>6428379
well it's an odd joke that makes him look gotten-to and also is sorta making fun of the Bucks... so... good one Joey?
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Nick Patrick - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 13:28:49 EST r1FzMSXm No.6428387 Reply
>>6428383
It's banter that you're taking way too seriously. I don't know what I else to tell you.
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The Mantaur - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 13:47:56 EST JyJS6uUQ No.6428395 Reply
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Lance Storm speaks out against intergender wrestling and a lot of wrestlers aren't having it
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Nick Patrick - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 13:54:32 EST r1FzMSXm No.6428400 Reply
>>6428395
I can't suspend my disbelief enough to buy into intergender wrestling. But that's just me.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 14:07:16 EST o+BTpfHb No.6428407 Reply
>>6428405
What a clickbait headline. Also this is coming from Hugo Savinovich so I'd take this with a grain of salt.
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Norman Smiley - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 14:32:47 EST 25SVkeKi No.6428420 Reply
Joey janela gets shit on way too much. Poor guy just wants to live his dream.
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Ashley Cartier - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 16:20:36 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6428457 Reply
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>>6428351
Brandi arguing with fans about AEW Heels. Apparently female wrestling fans don't like women's wrestling?
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The Mantaur - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 16:32:46 EST JyJS6uUQ No.6428462 Reply
I'm begging Cody to take away Brandi's phone at this point
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Damien Demento - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 16:39:55 EST jE+cBOPo No.6428466 Reply
>>6428457
>>6428459


I don't know how to break it to you guys but all corporations/big businesses do carny shit like this. Every single one of them. All of the time. Forever. Do you understand? There was never a world in which AEW were not going to pull something like this. Your problem is literally with Capitalism.
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Ashley Cartier - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 16:42:01 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6428467 Reply
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>>6428466
you're already preaching to the choir. take it up with the fans that got worked by their pandering.
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Damien Demento - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 16:51:08 EST jE+cBOPo No.6428472 Reply
>>6428467
It's amazing, really. You'd think that at some point - even during this pandemic - people would just simply stop falling for this shit. A company's only job in a Capitalist society is to become WWE. That's it. It's never gonna be equitable or cool or even make sense unless it....makes cents. Hahaha, get it? Make cents....

*sigh*

I hate this world.

Welp. It's almost 2PM. Time to smoke weed and masturbate for the 2nd time today.
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Eric Bischoff - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 16:51:38 EST ++/BC/Pk No.6428473 Reply
>>6428457
Imagine caring about any of this. I couldn't give a hoot about how wrestlers make money or how much marks give them. Until they advertise this shit on Dynamite I just do not care. It has zero impact on my enjoyment of AEW's shows.
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Nick Patrick - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 16:57:17 EST r1FzMSXm No.6428477 Reply
>>6428457
What is a women's only fan club supposed to achieve? I thought everyone was moving away from all of the "this is just for men and this is just for women" stuff. The opposite of inclusion that she preaches.
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Damien Demento - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 16:58:41 EST jE+cBOPo No.6428481 Reply
>>6428420
I'm sorry but Joey Janela needs to be a better wrestler if he wants to live his dream. I say this with all due respect for his indie work and zero hyperbole: But he basically sucks. He's a mid-carder. He does nothing amazing, says nothing amazing - he's actually corny as fuck and I'm hoping that the people shitting on him get to him at some point so that he can BE his dream
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Ashley Cartier - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 17:04:49 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6428488 Reply
>>6428481
i am fan of Joey's indie stuff but a couple of things happened:
-He is not the same worker he was before his knee surgery
-He is in worse shape than he was in 2016-2018. The knee injury is a big part of it but he also took A LOT of stupid bumps on his back on the indies.
-Cornette making fun of him for being out of shape seems to have gotten in his head
-Getting dumped by Penelope as soon as she got an AEW deal seems to have gotten in his head
-Getting booked in an angle w Kip & Penelope after he said he didn't want to do an angle with his ex seems to have gotten in his head
-Having that feud's blowoff get bumped to Dark seems to have gotten in his head
-Losing the Enzo fight REALLY seems to have gotten in his head
-Lastly, he just tries too hard to be a company man/ass kisser for AEW/his boss Tony Khan and it flies in the face of the whole "outlaw / no cop callers allowed" vibe that he helped create in GCW
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Horace - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 17:06:39 EST npmoWSca No.6428489 Reply
>>6428457
>It's for female wrestling fans. Most female fans don't like women's wrestling
Then why the fuck is AEW Heels filled with lectures and zoom meetings of the female roster?
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Sinister Minister - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 17:25:51 EST K20kw6yS No.6428496 Reply
>>6428489
It's for the yassssss divas set of fans
WWE has targeted that audience for a while, AEW wants a piece
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Rikishi - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 17:45:11 EST l6TsNNV/ No.6428505 Reply
>>6428496
This is probably true. They saw the success of Total Divas/Bellas and wanted some of those sweet demos.
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Damien Demento - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 18:58:34 EST jE+cBOPo No.6428531 Reply
>>6428488
Literally all things that could be (and could have BEEN) solved by hitting the gym, taking a joke writing class, and learning new techniques / a different style of fighting -- Basically: Becoming a better wrestler. He needs to improve or completely reinvent himself. He should have been on that tip BEFORE AEW because his indie stuff had an obvious ceiling that any regular mark could see.

In his current form he is exactly where he should be.
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Shane Storm - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 19:06:35 EST 4fFZ7Rlb No.6428535 Reply
>>6428457
Of course this was a stupid ass thing to say in this circumstance but she isn't wrong
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Ashley Cartier - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 19:23:13 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6428537 Reply
>>6428535
>many female fans don't like women's wrestling
i think that's wrong
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Shane Storm - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 19:27:03 EST 4fFZ7Rlb No.6428540 Reply
>>6428537
It's not. Most come to see hot guys wrestle, that's why New Japan's audience is 60-40
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Kenny King - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 19:30:58 EST RgpMBobH No.6428542 Reply
>>6428540
It's no secret there's female wrestling fans who like seeing the hot guys work, but it's also no secret that female wrestling fans tend to fucking love it when women are actually a featured part of the show. Hence why there's so many female wrestling fans who were marks for the likes of Lita/AJ/Paige/Bellas etc. or why there's many female wrestling fans giving AEW shit for not featuring the women's division much on Dynamite lately
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Joel Maximo - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 19:35:00 EST IafLbfJh No.6428544 Reply
>>6428395
Some women felt uncomfortable so I guess fuck all the women who actually like doing it.

We don't need more cases like darts girls who lost gigs because uninvolved people complain despite the fact that they enjoy doing what they do.
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The Commandant - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 20:36:27 EST r1FzMSXm No.6428558 Reply
>>6428555
She should stop coming up with terrible ideas if she can't handle the criticism
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Jun Akiyama - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 20:41:04 EST XmwWtOlD No.6428560 Reply
>>6428396
Dammit NJ, Lance is usually the voice of reason

And he's right again, intergender wrestling is just progressive faggotry
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 20:41:12 EST iLikEToleARn No.6428561 Reply
>>6428560
If you attend the event have less of a secret agent sin cara will be before seeing I looked at what lance archer, bryce is going to help an injured rey in 1 night tournament with 16 matches, I don't care.
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Chuck Taylor - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 20:44:08 EST 4zJo/ELj No.6428563 Reply
>>6428560
How can it be faggotry when it's a heterosexual pairing, though? 🤔
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Teddy Long - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 20:54:55 EST en9SYWja No.6428566 Reply
>>6428457
She's right. Most hardcore fans of women's wrestling are adult males.

The service is legitimately a fan club for women who enjoy pro wrestling, and not only women's wrestling, but don't like creepy fans reacting to their every word with "OMG! A GIRL!", but the retarded simps are freaking the fuck out because they think they need to pay $50 for more women's wrestling.

NJPW also caters to female fans to ease any anxiety they have about being in proximity to sweaty manbabies with B.O. at live events and they don't even have women's wrestling on their shows.
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Manami Toyota - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 21:13:33 EST n9eKBgQH No.6428568 Reply
>>6428566
Actual women are criticizing that AEW is using branding that co opts inclusive language to charge fans to have another discussion zone under the guise of being progressive
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Trish Stratus - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 22:00:40 EST jEGuiRVR No.6428580 Reply
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Pillman seems like a bit of a dumbass. He must have spent too much time around Teddy and Davey.
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The Commandant - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 22:08:48 EST r1FzMSXm No.6428581 Reply
>>6428566
creating women only stuff (especially in this day and age of gender and sexuality inclusion) only keeps the simping and creepiness alive. gives them energy
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Nick Patrick - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 22:18:35 EST 25SVkeKi No.6428582 Reply
>>6428580
Pillman was being pretty harmless here. Ethan Page got defensive for no reason.
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Carl Oullette - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 22:31:49 EST jE+cBOPo No.6428585 Reply
>>6428560

You're a straight up fucking idiot. I serious hate the internet. All he said was that women should not be forced into inter-gender matches. That's it. Didn't say anything about progressive faggotry or kayfabe. Didn't say anything about intergender matches being a bad idea. Everyone is attacking and supporting him based on shit he didn't say.
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Carl Oullette - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 22:34:59 EST jE+cBOPo No.6428588 Reply
>>6428560

I seriously hate the internet. All he said was that women should not be forced into inter-gender matches. That's it. Didn't say anything about progressive faggotry or kayfabe. Didn't say anything about intergender matches being a bad idea. Everyone is attacking and supporting him based on shit he didn't say. Only corny losers are this desperate for a hero / villian
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Rick Steiner - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 22:51:42 EST IafLbfJh No.6428591 Reply
>>6428588
Clearly you are the one struggling with reading comprehension. He straight up says inter-gender wrestling should no longer be a thing. Then adds why he thinks that should be the case. He's even arguing with female wrestlers who are saying they should be able to do inter-gender stuff if they want too. He thinks it's existence normalizes it so women without the clout who don't want to do them feel pressured to do so, therefore they shouldn't happen at all so they it isn't normalized.
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Stalker Ichikawa - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 22:55:16 EST rqbeZnm6 No.6428592 Reply
>>6428407
Is it clickbait if it's actually what he said?
>In comments translated from Spanish, Savinovich stated on Kross, “He’s a warrior, he’s an athlete that once was a hired murderer. This is not ‘a making this, making that’. No, this is the real thing. Now he’s so passionate about wrestling. I love my friend, he have a great friendship. God bless him and his love with Scarlett.”
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Jimmy Olson - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 23:05:27 EST biZclbci No.6428594 Reply
>>6428585
>Didn't say anything about intergender matches being a bad idea
idk he literally said "these matches have to stop"
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Apple Miyuki - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 23:09:41 EST lLyPkEhR No.6428596 Reply
>>6428594
if he was refering to matches where a preditory man wrestles an unexperienced woman and takes advantage, then, yeah hes right.

if he meant all intergender matches in general, then hes wrong, easy.
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Mephisto - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 23:13:57 EST RgpMBobH No.6428598 Reply
>>6428596
Basically this. And let's be real, the existence of intergender wrestling isn't what allowed people like Joey Ryan to get away with being a piece of shit, it's the wrestling industry (from wrestlers to promoters to fans) allowing said pieces of shit to have a position of power in the business they can use to pressure others into doing things they didn't want to do.
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C. Red - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 23:59:01 EST eKDJQIFT No.6428601 Reply
>>6428599
alright just listened to the thing and i'm 99% sure the tone got lost in translation dude basically just said that kross is very tough in real life lol. it only sounds like an actual accusation if you translate it to text literally and ignore everything else. if you actually listen it just sounds he's bigging him up and exaggerating things. It's kind of Hugo's thing to call tough people "warriors" and "mercenaries" on commentary all the time lol. Just how he speaks.
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Berlyn - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 01:00:01 EST TthMVMNX No.6428628 Reply
>>6428580
Pillman, like the Harts, seems like someone who's stuck within the wrestling bubble. The way they rationalize things, speak to people, and view the world always circle back to the wrestling biz. I totally get why Page would be super annoyed, he's trying to address a serious situation and Pillman's taking this opportunity to Brother Up
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Justin King - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 01:18:45 EST 3z9mtOnj No.6428631 Reply
Unfortunately, outrage has once again masked a pretty solid point. Which is that, in a match setting people can take advantage of each other physically under the guise of the match, and that there's a certain amount of pressure on newer wrestlers to pay their dues and do things, lest they be labelled difficult and not given as many opportunities. It's as true in wrestling as any other venture.

Now, Storm is in fact arguing that intergender should be banned outright, so they don't have the opportunity. I disagree. It doesn't necessarily fix the problem, because you'll still have men and women sharing a backstage, sharing merch tables, sharing cars, etc. And do you ban men and women working together in every aspect? Do you no long have female managers grabbing an opponent's leg? Can men train women? Getting rid of the thing entirely never fully solves people taking advantage in other ways.

It's not a good idea to have them dress or sleep in the same room, but at some point we start getting into things like not being alone with a woman in a room at all, and requiring escorts for the female performers, and making people sign waivers, and all manner of things that would cover everybody, but also be insulting to the fact that these are grown people with some modicum of intelligence.

That said, Storm brings to light an important notion. It's one thing for a person in a position of power over another to blatantly flirt or ask to trade sex for opportunity, but it's another to be in a match setting where you're grabbing and putting parts near each other and generally being aggressive. And even without the sexual aspect, guys can be rougher on girls, girls can be unable or uncomfortable to do certain spots, etc. And wrestlers are expected to do these things for the sake of the match and the plot and the attraction.

I would argue that most people would be understanding if a wrestler didn't want to do a match with weapons or big high spots. But not wanting to do a match with a guy because he's a guy, probably not so much. There's that fine line between accepting that this is how it is, and expressing your feelings of discomfort. A woman who says she doesn't want to do intergender might get eyerolls from the other students, including other women. And in the current climate where it's more allowed and expected and lechers can take advantage, you might see more of those match types interchangeable on a card the same way tags and triangle and such are.

I think that's what Storm is trying to argue under the idea of banning them altogether. Also the fact that women can end up as the lone female on a circuit and forced to do them or just not work, is something that should be brought to light and prevented whenever possible. Imagine the other girl doesn't show or was never booked at all and you're faced with either losing a tour or doing a series of matches you had no preparation or expectation to do. Part of that is business, part of that is bad luck, but all these stories from #SpeakingOut suggest it can really go badly quick.
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Greg Excellent - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 01:26:11 EST v+E41uU7 No.6428632 Reply
Intergender wrestling is a combined product of WWE signing everyone, this very gimmicky phase of the current indy scene, and the western wrestling scenes' inherited lack of fucks given for women's wrestling in general. It's been forever since I even heard a peep about a hyped up indy women's match, as if all the women's only groups died all at once. It's both sad and weird to think about how the most emphasis on just women fighting besides TNA isn't in the indies or AEW but WWE.

Also intergender wrestling itself is almost all garbage and the sooner it gets stops being a major hook for indy feds, the better.
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Nick Patrick - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 01:40:15 EST 25SVkeKi No.6428635 Reply
I liked Tessas intergender matches but now that I know she sells her toilet shits, holst belts hostage, is a racist and refuses to do good business I don't really give a shit about anything her and her giant chin do.
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Mephisto - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 02:38:46 EST RgpMBobH No.6428642 Reply
>>6428632
Part of the reason indy women's wrestling in the US has died down can be attributed to feds like SHIMMER & SHINE losing interest over the years, a lot of the good female talent either getting signed by one of the major TV players &
a lot of the ones still on the scene just not being very good.

Not to say that there aren't good indy female wrestlers, but at the same time, I completely understand why women's wrestling feds/matches don't attract the same hype as an intergender match, or why there's women on the indy scene who like doing intergender matches.
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Jobber - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 06:54:52 EST KmAjQugE No.6428660 Reply
>>6428635
Wait what I thought selling shit pics was Shotzi Blackheart's gimmick already? Is women taking pics of their poop becoming normal now, what in the flying fuck?
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Byron Saxton - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 07:14:58 EST NQLCELKx No.6428663 Reply
>>6428349
Taker looked bad at times, but I'm glad he never killed his gimmick by deciding to post some kinda PSA of sorts about not being in great shape.
Bray's a chonk dude and he doesn't do that either (not counting the Muscle Man dance Firefly Funhouse stuff as this would be like if Swamp Cult Leader or Fiend Bray talked about this, it's just off.)
You kill your mystique by talking about something like that if it doesn't align with your gimmick whatsoever. She's a weird zombie type gimmick, and while not supernatural, she is meant to be the evil/dark gimmick "freak" on the roster, so the last thing she should be posting about is that.
This is why social media does harm to gimmicks. She could have a separate account, just for the woman behind the gimmick, and post literally whatever she wants, and that'd come across better.
But given The Undertaker posts the shit that he does on twitter, I'm just typing for the sake of typing at this point. Wrasslers gonna do whatever they do on social media, even if it disconnects too much with their character or is just boneheaded to share an opinion on, anyway.
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Byron Saxton - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 08:03:11 EST NQLCELKx No.6428670 Reply
>>6428660
>Cornucopiaphiliacs tho

That's not what they're called, but I have trouble pronouncing the word for it, so it's easier to just call them that since corn shows up in poop. lol
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Josh Matthews - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 09:05:49 EST 2JXG5vfK No.6428682 Reply
>>6428582
>Pillman was being pretty harmless here
Somebody found and sent mail to his grandmother and Pillman was saying that's a good thing, how is that not a weird take?
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Christ Sabin - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 10:20:16 EST LAYazAzE No.6428698 Reply
>>6428687
Shame that such a nice sentiment becomes the last refuge of a scoundrel.
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Midajah - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 10:27:15 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6428699 Reply
>>6428692
someone would have to press charges first and given the amount of wrestling fans including on this board that ran to the defense of "but what about all the women who make up false accusations?!" just for speaking out, his victims might not have the emotional energy to pursue a legal case
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Tony Chimel - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 11:13:01 EST oWLdzxNc No.6428715 Reply
>>6428687
so he has taken the shawn micheals i found god so that means all the bad shit i did in the past is irrelevant now path eh? well good luck with that
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Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 11:17:18 EST M1ahJWky No.6428717 Reply
>>6428715
You mean long tenured employee, hall of famer and featured trainer of NXT, Shawn Michaels?

seemed like it worked for him.
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Van Hammer - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 12:09:22 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6428739 Reply
>>6428717
Being friends with HHH and Vince McMahon is what got him the return, the hall of fame and the post-retirement job.
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Billy Gunn - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 12:59:10 EST vCkiVt97 No.6428755 Reply
>>6428687
All I can think of is that thing Cornette says about HBK and Russo being pieces of shit and then finding God. "When mortals won't talk to you anymore, you turn to a higher power", something like that.
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Anthony Nese - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 14:27:24 EST aab4fBsT No.6428795 Reply
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>>6428687
>le sleazeball
>exposed for being actual sleazeball
>run god.exe
>thou shalt be forgiven
>redebut as sleazeball just for being ironic
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Nick Patrick - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 14:29:40 EST 25SVkeKi No.6428797 Reply
>>6428755
Tons of people still talk to Russo though. He was on Steve Austins podcast. A lot of wrestlers really like Vince Russo and just think some of his booking decisions were bad. The only people who hate Russo the way Cornette does are Cornette fans. I wouldn't be surprised if Vince Russo has more friends then Jim Cornette.
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Eric Young - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 14:40:29 EST VgX129L2 No.6428806 Reply
>>6428797
Russo also isnt shit talking wrestlers and wishing death on them, he's just really stuck in the past with how he views the ratings and how he would book things.
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Suwama - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 14:41:13 EST 1CEdeoa+ No.6428807 Reply
>>6428715
I get what you're saying but I feel like of all people to dunk on for "I found God, forgive me pls", Michaels is probably the least applicable person considering it's pretty legit with him
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Brad Armstrong - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 19:09:24 EST /QSOXPNJ No.6429000 Reply
http://twitter.com/greatblackotaku
Brennan’s Twitter goes dark, retweets antifa faction post from a few days ago. Brennan finally making it to tv under this abortion of an angle is the worst monkeys paw shit I’ve ever experienced.

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