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Maxwell Jacob Friedman

- Sun, 18 Oct 2020 05:51:51 EST mfeY9JdV No.6456833
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Are you ready for him to join the inner circle and take it over from the inside?

This guy is the most talented wrestler in a generation, and it's not even close. He is so talented and to top it all off hes sexy as fuck.

How long until he wins the world title? Even when he lost to dictator jon he got screwed
Xavier Woods - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 07:51:17 EST 0g8+IxW/ No.6456840 Reply
That's dumb. I love MJF and think he's everything people thought EC3 was five years ago. But that's fucking stupid.
Amber O'Neal - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 09:39:12 EST Ud3lJSIv No.6456856 Reply
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That's cool bro now give me my gimmick back
Gangrel - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 09:56:18 EST 4zJo/ELj No.6456859 Reply
go back to 8​chan you memeing fucks
Super Strong Machine - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 14:33:10 EST xiZ2bnod No.6456902 Reply

this is rich coming from a joshi fetish poster

but i do agree
Tank - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 14:59:01 EST kAetmX7X No.6456911 Reply
MJF has that unignorable obviously-acting thing you'll often see on SNL. Why is everyone so far up his ass?
Gangrel - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 15:17:58 EST 4zJo/ELj No.6456920 Reply
At least it's not every other fucking day, unlike you memeing fucks with the MJF and Sid threads. Get a hobby, goddamn.
Irwin R. Schyster - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 15:38:28 EST oggDbCs/ No.6456934 Reply
Looking forward to his feud with Sammy. I just wish he was a better wrestler, that would help with escaping the Miz and EC3 comparisons.
Al Wilson - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 15:40:19 EST yyWthqir No.6456935 Reply
I think his matches with Jungle Boy and Mox were pretty good, he's definitely improved
Tony Schiavone - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 15:48:44 EST PeshEglU No.6456936 Reply
i was in on the "Miz clone" meme but his feud with Jericho making me change my mind on the guy
dude's really good on the mic
Invader - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 17:11:04 EST ECPVV2LS No.6456963 Reply
The miz clone thing was always stupid. No one owns being a cocky dickhead heel. No one accuses Miz of ripping off Rick Rude or Buddy Rose. People just need to turn everything into WWE vs AEW console wars constantly.
Dean Malenko - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 17:55:56 EST 7HnECNFW No.6456967 Reply
More like Maxwell Jacob Fartbox. What a tryhard. He's poopy. Go away, poopy wrestler.
Little Fiji - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 18:06:50 EST RIMHP1wE No.6456969 Reply
He's maybe the most talented talker in a generation, but he's just decent in the ring. To be the best in a generation you have to be good overall.
Mr. Anderson - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 18:51:39 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6456980 Reply
>only "decent"

did you only exclusively watch Russo-booked schmozes from 98/99 when his neck was fucked?

also Rock is better than "decent" too
Little Fiji - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 18:53:20 EST RIMHP1wE No.6456981 Reply
They were better at wrestling than MJF, at least. I also think that, for one example, with the rate at which Sammy Guevara is improving he could catch up in the next couple years with MJF in terms of out-of-ring entertainment value while retaining his ability to do crazy flips, take sick bumps, and honestly just put on surprisingly good matches for someone his age in general. (His match with Mox was way underrated, IMO.)
Tony Schiavone - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 19:07:54 EST PeshEglU No.6456989 Reply
Austin had what arguably is WWE's best match ever against Bret Hart and the Rock had his fair share of great matches too before leaving for Hollywood
i don't wanna undermine MJF's recent improvements in the ring but to compare him to Rock and Austin is a bit far, especially since his matches were really mediocre until a few months ago
Mr. Anderson - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 19:09:51 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6456990 Reply
>wm 13 & surser 96
>hollwood blondes
>vs Angle
>vs Benoit
> vs Ricky Steamboat
>vs Dustin Rhodes

>"just" decent
Rick Steiner - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 19:14:36 EST DWuDuf7N No.6456994 Reply

Why? Because he didn't do flips and dives?
Little Fiji - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 19:24:53 EST RIMHP1wE No.6456998 Reply
No. ZSJ is one of my favorite wrestlers today and he barely does either. AEW actively covers for him by having him barely wrestle, and the matches he's had were entertaining purely based on the surrounding story and required very little of him in terms of in-ring ability.

There's nothing wrong with that; I love Mick Foley, for instance. But I wouldn't claim Foley was the most talented in his generation overall, even if I think he might be the literal GOAT when it comes to character work.
Cody Deaner - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:58:33 EST ECPVV2LS No.6457014 Reply
If people are legitimately going to pretend Austin was anything more than brawling and stunners in the ring (ESPECIALLY post neck injury, yknow, during the peak of his stardom) then there is no point in having this conversation. Good on you guys for accepting that Rock wasn’t much in the ring tho.
Ezekiel Jackson - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 21:50:43 EST S7IWEvDh No.6457028 Reply
Nah dude. His 01 ring work was top tier. Outside of the garbage feud with Taker and Kane, he was churning out good shit all year long from the Rumble to 3 Stages of Hell to Mania X-7, then later you had matches with Angle, Jericho, RVD, Benoit that were all really good too.
Meare Naito - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 21:52:56 EST sFc3GMQk No.6457029 Reply
The idea that Rock and Austin were both just "decent" in the ring shows a grossly narrowminded view of what good wrestling is. Both of them were great despite Austin's injuries and Rock's early retirement and both had a ridiculous understanding of match psychology that few people do even now.

As for MJF he'll probably get there, he just needs more time in the oven. I think putting him in programs with guys that are really good in the ring is what will help him get to the next level, because so far his major programs have been with Cody, Jungle Boy, and Moxley and all three of those guys are more or less just fine with Cody being a step above the other two but still not really the kind of guy MJF needs right now.

Jericho's past his prime but putting him with MJF is exactly what will help bring him to the next level eventually and I think in a year or two we'll be having a different conversation about Max.
Bryce Remsburg - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 02:13:56 EST SdPbl+Wq No.6457071 Reply
Miz should bring this back for himself.

Probably because he's a wholesale ripoff of Dwayne

>there is no point in having this conversation.

Good, kick rocks. Even if Austin was "just" a brawler there's nothing bad about that.

Cody Deaner - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 04:17:24 EST ECPVV2LS No.6457095 Reply
>multiple people decide thinking Austin and Rock were decent means I think they were bad whatsoever
Cope, ya geeks. They were not spectacular ring generals. They were incredible personalities that were absolutely fine in the ring. It’s okay.
Eugene - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 04:34:16 EST PeshEglU No.6457097 Reply
>means I think they were bad whatsoever
no, stop being passive aggressive and don't put words in people's mouths
what people are saying here is that Austin and The Rock are way more than just decent, not that they're not bad
Cody Deaner - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 04:49:59 EST ECPVV2LS No.6457100 Reply
“There’s nothing wrong with that”
“There’s nothing bad about that”
Y’all put words in my mouth. Don’t twist it, cunt. Cope.
Eugene - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 05:09:27 EST PeshEglU No.6457101 Reply
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it's you who said that Austin was no more than a brawler as a way to prove the point that he's limited to being just decent, and people, me included, disagreed, because, in fact, there is nothing about being a brawler that stops a wrestler from being great
Brie Bella - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 05:38:23 EST KDNorg+J No.6457102 Reply
Austin also had an awesome strap match with William Regal on Smackdown that year.
Papaya - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:52:37 EST Arlyurcu No.6457155 Reply
I just want to know if he actually has a Burberry scarf or it's just some random camel check from like Macy's.
Cody Deaner - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:54:46 EST ECPVV2LS No.6457156 Reply
He wasn’t great for his brawling tho. He was great for his personality.
Ring Ryda Red - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:59:16 EST oWLdzxNc No.6457158 Reply
seeing as it seems to be the same scarf every time i could see it being a real one or a very convincing knock off
X-Pac - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 12:01:21 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6457159 Reply
Austin was great for his personality
His ring psychology
His in-ring charisma and charisma with the crowd
His brawling was also great, he's an all time great brawler with great punches, great fire, great intensity.
He was also a great wrestler before injuries took their toll (why do you keep not acknowledging his WCW work as evidence of this?) and even in 2001 he pushed his body to the limit for one final hurrah in great wrestling matches with Angle, Benoit, and Jericho.

You're not saying he's "bad" but you're still wrong for saying he's "just" "decent"
Cody Deaner - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 12:14:32 EST ECPVV2LS No.6457163 Reply
I’m not ignoring his WCW work, there’s no reason to bring it up when the whole discussion has been about his peak. Which is when he was pulling ratings by cutting promos, drinking beers, and giving Vince stunners. His ring work had nothing to do with that. I get that most people on here are probably massively nostalgic about the attitude era and think it was the apex of every aspect of wrestling, but it wasn’t. The personalities of Rock and Austin were over. I am not surprised he had good matches with good wrestlers. Reminder that Tom Magee had a good match with Bret Hart while being total dog shit.
X-Pac - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 12:19:13 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6457165 Reply
>Which is when he was pulling ratings by cutting promos, drinking beers, and giving Vince stunners
this does not mean that Austin was "only decent" at wrestling, it just means he didn't need to use every trick in his arsenal to pull massive ratings at the peak of the AE.

you said:
> pretend that Austin was anything more than brawling and stunners in the ring
>They were not spectacular ring generals.
and you are WRONG but I think you're trolling based on your smug tone. so congrats on getting this final response out of me.

Cody Deaner - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 14:01:35 EST ECPVV2LS No.6457183 Reply
I’m not trolling. It’s legit how I feel. There were spectacular people in the ring at the time and they were not Steve Austin.
Cody Deaner - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 14:18:05 EST ECPVV2LS No.6457184 Reply
Also it’s like, totally fine for us to disagree about this. My feelings aren’t hurt or anything.
Tully Blanchard - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 15:20:45 EST nUVuFPND No.6457190 Reply
Well Austin also had a neck injury during that time that was pretty fucked up. His 1996 and pre-Owen tombstone 97 stuff is awesome. Austin might be one of the best wrestlers in the world at that time. Seriously really a great in ring worker.
Drew McIntyre - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 15:22:31 EST NbxmdHMb No.6457193 Reply
Quite literally every legend in the business praise his in ring work too
Tully Blanchard - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 15:38:20 EST nUVuFPND No.6457197 Reply
I think his 2001 work is good too btw. Just maybe overstated in this thread how good it was. He could run the ropes so much better in 1996/97 and the intensity of a lot of his moves faded by 2001.
Hayabusa - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 22:17:35 EST oggDbCs/ No.6457306 Reply
Thanks, I had no idea that existed and now I'll have to check it out.
I think at some point someone found his scarf at Dollar Tree.

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